J. Krishnamurti - Los Alamos, New Mexico 1984 - Scientists Disc. - Creation comes out of meditation

J. Krishnamurti - Los Alamos, New Mexico 1984 - Scientists Disc. - Creation comes out of meditation
Summary:
Q: What is meditation and how is it related to creativity?
What is desire?
Q: If I give complete attention to sensation, will I burn out desire?
Q: What happens to one’s self-image if one changes the society?
Q: How can we help watchfulness to be strong enough to see?
What is concentration? What is attention?
Q: If you were a director of the laboratory with responsibility for the defence of the country, how would you direct the activities of the laboratories and research?
Note: an unknown amount of footage is missing in the original recording, starting at 1h 2m.​
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[@whatever5575]

What makes this person so remarkable is his insights to human emotions and the way he detached himself from his teaching. The emphasis lies with conveying his understanding to his readers, not in glorifying himself or making a name for himself. What used to vex me, after reading his book, slowly dissolved away. When you understand yourself, that understanding has a momentum of its own. I feel that he is that anonymous person who always lend a helping hand and disappears when you want to repay him for his kindness.

[@cyprusfootballplayers-cfpm7021]

He never even existed in the first place, he said it himself. its really quite fascinating but true that he was just a speaker with words of truth. He once said the speaker doesnt exist in one of his talks,as you go deeper you may understand for yourself why. very interesting my friend

[@arvinddhakar4748]

Word is not the fact

[@asmallabadi]

Observer is the observed, Thinker is the thought. So deep and profound, if you understand that... You need nothing else...

[@Fibonachi.]

now what

[@graphstyle]

That kindness is pure energy and what true love is.

[@bandugupta58]

Listening to JK is like taking a spiritual bath. By listening to his talks again and again till one has come to the point of knowing it and living it. 🙏

[@salex1959]

Oh to have been a part of any of these discussions in 1985! I wonder what the individuals who attended FEEL about this amazing interaction today , and what effect , if any , this had on their life. So much LOVE for this gentle being and his message. I long to be a part of what J K understood . All Love to the being's who do this work and maintain the legacy.

[@salujathustra9905]

@Sherri Alexander Don't long for anything, don't bring time into understanding. Stick an axis through yourself and rotate about it, for what is time but the rotation of the Earth about it's own axis. And this, it completes a revolution. Earth is not conscious of the time she takes to go around the sun. Only on the act of rotation.

[@salujathustra9905]

K cannot end the content of your consciousness. It's there for you to see. To look into yourself. By measuring the depth you come to realize your height, and from their you begin.

[@soleknight3212]

@@salujathustra9905 I'm not so sure. I was listening to K last night discussing with scientists and his words DIRECTLY ended all thought within me. It may not last, but it was complete silence of the mind. I have had it many times, as I'm sure many of us have, but for 99% we CANNOT maintain it. K was a freak (he admits this himself by saying he was never part of the field).

[@drsarahthomas4725]

Yes, I agree with you, totally

[@LolRielle]

@@soleknight3212 which talk were you listening to?

[@errol-ih4jy]

I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO TALK TO HIM FOR 30 MINUTES, ON MY OWN, IM SURE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN MY LIFE.

[@BehindDesign]

J K should be teached in schools and universities if we want a better world.

[@hintergedankee]

Damn people who control these schools would never want a better world. No strife No rule.

[@equinox7267]

Yes,you are right.

[@01shamit]

I would say a few more of his schools need to open worldwide. However, in India, money-minded people are running them, and the students there are from rich families, and resent self and social responsibilities.

[@immortal6748]

It's impossible, because everybody wants only money through school, money is the only purpose of all schools nowadays.

[@sanjayyethipathi]

that will again become indoctrination. internet solved the problem of knowledge gate keeping for once and all. its upto the individual to change his life and eventually the world. any way the world moves hereafter is inevitable & trying to change its course comes from a misunderstanding of what's happening.

[@alwalw9237]

Fantastic to see scientists welcoming Krishnamurti into their domain. This is such a confirmation of one of the steps in my spiritual practice called "Steps to Knowledge". Step 9 "In stillness all things can be known" STILLNESS OF MIND ALLOWS A GREATER MIND TO EMERGE and to reveal its Wisdom. Those who cultivate stillness with a desire for Knowledge will be preparing themselves for greater revelation and true insight to emerge. The insight may emerge during practice or during any normal activity. The important aspect here is that the preparation has been made.

[@friendofmoss]

Thank you for sharing this insight ALW... truly compelling...

[@johnchapman5125]

Thank you, ALW.

[@emerusp]

Still so relevant these days with the fuss around mindfulness and the market built around this new "healing" during pandemics forcing everybody to work at home. K had a clear view of our future back in time, 36 years ago! OMG!

[@smile4today1]

Wow so appreciate him pointing ☝🏻 to truth not belief ideas imagination wishful thoughts. Thank you ❤️🙏🏼

[@ThomiX0.0]

deeply moving talk wich makes one be attentive! Thanks for sharing :-)

[@fullsquare6398]

What a inspiration talk at a special time and place, tremendous courage!

[@baljitsingh7014]

Jindu the amazing mr krishnamurti I like to thank all the people behind this channel for up loading this video,

[@smile4today1]

Thank you JK for shining the truth , for all us miserable human beings. So we can put our world in order 🙌🏼❤️🙏🏼

[@malcolmnicoll1165]

How fortunate these people were to attend this lecture.

[@andrewjakubczak1512]

J.K. was such a wonderful human being. A TRUE human being!!! No pretense. No game. HONESTY, INTEGRITY, and enormous COMPASSION emanated from him and his message. We desperately need such people NOW!!!

[@kasparsstraut2247]

Last 10 minutes of this .. simply wow! I think for a moment everybody woke up in that room.

[@drharisht.k.1871]

Thank u krishnamurti official channel :)... I was searching for this discussion...I think previously we had only a small piece of this discussion on attention. Now we got the whole thing...

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

People comment so often on their own gratitude when they talk about Christ and his cross. They call him the son of God. Not once have I seen the comment to express the compassion towards the man, who despite the fact that he was never heard while alive, never lost neither the passion, nor the courage to speak to those covering their ears.

[@akshayborgaonkar1581]

♥️

[@UTSOLIS]

Vaya rapapolvo al final de la charla. Excelente orador, gracias por subir.

[@susancarolan153]

Can I ask for a particular talk which took place in Switzerland in 1972, in which I was present. It changed my life, but I have no idea what he said. I could not speak for hours, in a complete daze. I was 22. Love Susan xxx 🤯🤞👍🌪💚🙏🏼

[@KFoundation]

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[@ashrafulhaque8759]

The last few seconds of the video sums it up all! Incredibly powerful.

[@RajeevKr_90]

K leave the world when I was just 3 year old I miss him today to see and hear him, he was gold.

[@Gaurav.P0]

Indeed. JK is Gold 🪙

[@kamalhalder4106]

cant compare him with anything..he is beyond nothing

[@clodhopper-dodo]

In today's chaotic world full of me, the greed. K's talk is inspiration to live boldly in a different dimension.

[@blabla6543]

Please listen to the answer to the so called "last question" at the end of the Talk. Absolutly amazing

[@limalongkumer9395]

Nothing can beat k,s words

[@hiteshhitesh1413]

Thanks for sharing

[@stefanstef2036]

Thank you very much. Happy holidays :) !

[@jacquesaarts7207]

Elkaar begrijpen en naar elkaar luisteren met een open mind, is de les die we moeten leren. 🙏

[@vag9090]

thank you brothers

[@nickidaisydandelion4044]

Even those scientists who are well behaved, with prefrontal cortical activity, somewhat worldly informed, less judgmental etc. They too as the wider public feel like it's sacrilegious for anyone to speak critically about the Christian religion or any religion I could sense the shock in the audience about his critique of religion. As if one is not allowed to touch that subject at all. Even my atheist agnostic parents have always been in that religion fearing mind state never questioning what they had been drilled with their whole lives. Friedrich Nietzsche was a Buddha lover btw and he also said we have to dissolve that entire idea of self and our whole storyline and come out from under all of that baggage as a new person and tabula rasa.

[@jonasctone]

thank you!

[@andrewjakubczak1512]

1:18:16 - 1:18:57 (Insight) How important that explanation is!

[@OvercookedOctopusFeet]

My interpretation of what is being said, particularly in the first half, is that to 'try' is a self-deception or illusion. 'Change' is not an act. To change oneself is not a matter of 'doing' anything, instead, it is a matter of understanding and awareness, which brings about a movement.

[@nickidaisydandelion4044]

All scientists particularly those who work in Laboratories Need to listen to Jiddu Krishnamurti! If they actually listened to him they would free the laboratory animals immediately and Never conduct cruel tests ever again.

[@jasssaini8604]

1000000 times thnx for upload

[@derekkase7884]

yea-yup!!! new krishnamurti video fo 2017

[@inspiregrow2336]

J Krishnamurti the man the legend

[@subhaschandrabag]

excellent dialogue

[@KINGJUNAID555]

1:10:18 Lovely story about Meditation.

[@lanamisiuc8031]

Yes it is ❤it is and yes all it is changing ❤️also your brain cells …and when is happening your brain doesn’t recognize it …it is unknown …

[@mariofabrini3304]

Un Grande Uomo alle prese con degli ignoranti e per di più maleducati incapaci di ascoltare ma poi alla fine io credo siano divenuti un pochino consapevoli della loro aggressività.

[@gentiantafa4619]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@coucousalut4899]

K doesn't hesitate to judge people…which prevents him from seeing things as they are…according to his own message…

[@bhuwan.chaturvedi]

❤

[@JonMcDough]

No person, no problem. Projection onto reality is an act of violence. Projection gives birth to personhood. Personhood prevents peace.

[@bhoot786]

89 who counts the deads, there! 🙏🌼🌺🌸

[@ashrafulhaque8759]

As the talk progressed, this crowd started to lose energy and fall apart! Very funny.

[@preethikrao]

🙏🙏🙏

[@TommyEfreeti]

DISPENSE WITH "BECOMING"! JUST CHOOSE TO MANIFEST YOUR AIM, INSTANTLY, WITHOUT PRECOGNITION, THOUGHT, HOPE, ANTICIPATION, EXPECTATION!. ALL ELSE IS IMMATERIAL, AND ILLUSION.

[@yudk8418]

Oh boy …Ardent example of conflict when there is conformity

[@graphstyle]

When listening to JK it is reality observing oneself and somehow unlocking and freeing the brain from its own psychological loop called the ego, that is nothing. Interesting…

[@ANilSirr]

1:08:10 dualities

[@Forrestpeace]

Humans asking other humans for answers to questions for which there are no answers.

[@gregnicholls8347]

Violence, so it seems, is an effect of brain attacking, escaping brain activity, which is the momentary content of/as mind. This violence takes place not just as mental activity but, as can be seen, in the world. Silent brain activity living out a moment been or possibly to be as mental argument or open argument or physical destruction is violence. Meditation is to see, sense this brain activity, which is still brain activity. The affect of this brain effects subjective sensation as an illusory agent, person, entity existing inside brain/body.

[@EXoTjC]

Science is a.superficial discipline. Scientist are trained all their life to stay on the surface of things. Thats why such a discipline can never penetrate the deeper aspects of reality.

[@graphstyle]

You mean truth, not reality, right?

[@krox477]

Isn't our whole EDUCATION trained in that direction

[@carpenter1274]

I don't think meditation is bad but its definitely not what everyone says it is. Just sitting in silence. Nothing special in the least.

[@bhaveshmahale1179]

It sures takes a lot out of J Krishnamurti to convince big brains, conditioned like this scientific community.

[@MistressGlowWorm]

Hinduism and Los Alamos national lab.

[@gaurav878]

He was not a Hindu .He left all the religions .. Understand him first

[@robertopuccianti8498]

💥🙏💚💙💚

[@SofaKing_Kong]

lol bet the los alamos aliens told the scientists to listen to J ;)

[@chandramurugaiah4641]

01:03:13 a bomb has dropped.

[@DIVYAM-y6e]

😅

[@raamkrishna7930]

🙏