J. Krishnamurti - Malibu 1970 - Small Group Discussion 4 - Being serious without belief

J. Krishnamurti - Malibu 1970 - Small Group Discussion 4 - Being serious without belief
Summary:
Can the intellect, a fragment, ever be serious? Serious in the sense of a sustained observation without any distortion.
Control.
What is living?
How does it happen that one can be completely harmonious?
What does awareness mean?
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[@jaikantchandrakumaran3423]

So wonderful and deep. So much of gratitude to this lovely man. Love ❤

[@Gaurav.P0]

JK before 70s was more cheerful and jolly. After 70s he became very serious.

[@SylusFyynch]

He was still numerous at times

[@mavanijj]

At certain moment how joyfully k is giving expressive statements ❤️❤️❤️👏

[@Gaurav.P0]

Beautiful video 😍

[@roboi2241]

True wizard of the mind.

[@michealhebert4370]

I feel like he truly was rare to the point that there is nobody like him perfect enlightenment almost I don't know. Creator liked this man for sure. One of a kind

[@michealhebert4370]

I listen to Allan watts alot at the beginning of my path them. Manly phall Walter Russell Santos bonaci. My go toguys oh and ken wheeler he magnificent but none had the heart felt passion as this man. To my experience

[@viveviveka2651]

It isn't "him." It is an intelligence.

[@ishapattanashettar9504]

Thank you 🙏🙏

[@subhaschandrabag]

excellent discussion.

[@sanekabc]

I live in the intellect because I don't know anything other than that.

[@sylviagung1007]

"Why does the intellect take supremacy?" "It lives in the future" K says, that is it is able to show/ bring results, and in hopes Watch every movement of the body, hands, fingers ... eyebrows ... facial muscles ... every part of the body, to train it be completely held... thus the mind. But trained mind is ... like a dall house ?

[@sylviagung1007]

"I never be angry. Iam ahead of my anger!" K says! I am ahead of my anger....

[@lokeshparihar7672]

Where did he say that?

[@viveviveka2651]

1:00:49 - the captions have a mistake that changes the meaning of what he is saying. He says "held" not "healthy."

[@Gaurav.P0]

At 1:00:00 he is talking about Vipassana meditation.

[@sylviagung1007]

I see now that I have lived with fragmented life that body and feelings are controlled by intellect which is thought; thought can control while the body and feeling have no ability to free of the control of the thought! So came to an insight that my mind needs to have the chance to see this broken up situation by awaring. Then my mind is the 4th entity if I may say it... K's saying the mind is outside of the thought makes sense. Awareness is the only tool that can see the fragmentation and can quiet the thought and then the mind can have the chance to harmonize them all...? What is the mind then ... 10 teachers, like K?

[@sylviagung1007]

Is it that K is pointing out that the intellect took over because the intellect has a measure or ability, to compare and compete over the body and emotion, and never serious about caring for the rest, while the mind that can do something about it has blinded itself! It sounds awfully like the way society is, thought representing business community along technology, feelings along the body being the poor ordinary, and the inactive mind being the government that plays itself a blind. Well, at the least, see the facts of violence everywhere. And Just live harmoniously, in every part of daily living.... Do I do that? K says, "Don't be selfish!" K said, "as a person, I don't exist." Can we make 10 people like K, selfless....?

[@pumuckel378]

I did meditate, drunk after a disco party in a car. true, no joke.

[@anjusagar5659]

🙏🙏🙏

[@tysonalba6250]

how do you look matters not what you look at.

[@lokeshparihar7672]

1:03:28 you are ahead of anger

[@michealhebert4370]

Most live in matter not mind

[@ESuccessMasters]

Why is it that even when all the facts are there to really SEE , one does not SEE in the real sense

[@NoUsernamae]

Look into what holds you back. A conditioned mind can not have an insight. Personally for me, I've found that I still, inside of me, wish to hold on to my pleasures, I want to pursue things that seem to be meaningful, that part has to be completely seen through, there is also the anticipatory fear of what happens once you let go of it all, most of us have pain inside of us, which is bound to show itself in many forms, rage, loneliness, sorrow, that is suppressed by the "me", to see these things, that can not be playing a dominant role. So that's what I would suggest, look at what you want, not what you think you want because you've logically understood K. But what you want that reflects in your actions, in every thought, every reaction, understanding of yourself as you are, first, is indispensable.

[@michealhebert4370]

It's temporal universe time is illusion

[@michealhebert4370]

Nobody asks themselves questions y y.

[@tatianashtratnikov3665]

brain is the past, which consist of time and space, in now there are not time and space, how the brain operates in now?, in now there are not thinking and collection of memories happen,? what is happening to brain in now? the humans have brains as instrument to operate in the environment and this instrument is not suitable for now, 🤔

[@davidjames1815]

My goodness😂....look at this poor guy talking to these ppl who are grabbing and grasping at straws trying to avoid the fact that their "STUFF" is "FLUFF"...We can keep our knowledge, but just don't buy into it as someting supreme which needs to be defended or justified, bolstered, but simply look w/o thinking and when looking naturally arises w/o the thought (and it will at some point) occurs listen to the phone ring. Don't get up to answer it or start having a self-dialogue about who it might be calling. For god's sake. Gravity fuels itself. We don't create and fuel gravity w our minds. It's not that difficult. So one simply looks and then things as they truky are arise "in bold relief." Then we can know the difference between our conceptual analogue of reality and ACTUAL REALITY. And it takes off from there. Every single question and concern cinches together and is resolved out in that crystal clear looking. If one says, "how do I do that and still live my life?", in that case the person has a disposition of refusing to actually look in the 1st place bcz they are still wanting certainty, securuty, guarantees...which is cowardice. And there is no room for that when seriously LOOKING. In fear one continues to see only projections of the mind as an overlay shutting out actual reality. So ppl have to understand the urgency to make this supreme leap and then simply look or get off the pot. After the 5th video, still confused? Then maybe go find a Guru to sit at the feet of and continue living obliviously...maybe Sadhguru or some other so-and-so😂😂😂teacher.😮

[@Gaurav.P0]

51:43 😂

[@michealhebert4370]

Wait I study metaphysics kenwhreler. Number one in the world. No such thing as cronos time