J. Krishnamurti - Malibu 1970 - Small Group Discussion 5 - Attention leads to learning

J. Krishnamurti - Malibu 1970 - Small Group Discussion 5 - Attention leads to learning
Summary:
Inattention and attention.
Observing without the word.
What is the function of sleep?
Is love a matter of culture, a thing of pleasure and therefore dependency?
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[@JohnPurkey1]

Thank you so much for uploading all of these videos. I found Jiddu a few years ago and it has been life changing. I have found that listening to his speak is powerful and I gain much meaning this way.

[@elizabethshanta9415]

This video finally enabled me to comprehend the meaning of the instant of an instant - timelessness! Thank you so much to care by keeping his teaching alive.

[@sylviagung1007]

"Enquire endlessly, keep at it! Be serious! Watching like a hawk!"

[@subhaschandrabag]

excellent discussion

[@Samooj]

The way K says tremendous is the greatest thing ever

[@kamaurahamukti5919]

BRILLIANT ✨✨✨

[@scot_smith]

Extraordinary! I so much appreciate his stimulation of our own sensitivity. Ironically, it can be difficult giving this kind of attention through the accumulated, intellectual weight of his words. Small doses of K.......may......go a long way.

[@edwintepuendikum3527]

Thanks so much for sharing 🙏🏿🙌🏿

[@jenniferlee5871]

I trust him, there is no reason not to trust his invitations to be aware, pay attention and consider his suggestions. Thank you

[@Amazology]

Thus chap is genuine and worthwhile imo. He is still tricky but he is genuine.

[@rolanquiper7503]

As long as there is an “I” to trust “another” there is a censor that is dividing. When there is actual seeing there is no need for trust.. for then it is obvious that neither an “I” or “another” actually exists.

[@techfeed596]

@@rolanquiper7503 well said.

[@jorge2757]

Gracias gracias gracias ❤❤❤

[@DavidTinxLall1978]

✍ Absolutely brilliant.... 🙏🙂

[@sylviagung1007]

K quotes my mind, "I want to watch myself. I want to learn about myself, and explains, "To learn about myself, I have to first unlearn the meaning of learning that is learning is not accumulation ... ? ... and 'Change' means 'learning about myself'." Learning starts from unlearning my brain of conditioning and find truth of myself that has been buried under all along, so what is the reason to take time to know myself that has been coming, well preserved coming from the beginning (so ... just wake up?).... and eventually going back to the ending, which is beginning .... The matter is simply that if I would leave mess or order, behind Change means learning about myself... This makes total sense. I am my only tool, as my body, my feeling- six senses, my brain, as K had said somewhere, and while my brain has been conditioned by the world and then myself keeps at it, strengthen it, my body and my feeling have been arrested and my mind has been muted tranquilized, desensitized and lost whatever the memory or sense of where it has come from, who or what it was before ... Well, I am writing a fancy story here. But I think that's what K is trying to convey or imply that I was a princess or an 👼.... Or as the bible says somewhere, The Breath of God! In unison with K, all the enlightened people said "Know yourself." And Jesus expressed the same thing differently, Man must be born again." Wash the pollution in my brain with pure water and get back to the original and feed the One Lost Mind." Then the Water and Spirit is in K's term, sensitivity and awareness that would come through Listening-observing my actions and reactions in relationship, moment by moment ... Divine Comedy comes to mind 🤣😁😊

[@musicangels]

devils thought i would say

[@nobodyreally]

To observe without naming is to observe without placing limits and ideology’s on what is. Labels are limiting (the opposite of infinite) and beliefs are obstacles if Truth is ones aim. 🌻

[@gurindergrewal56]

Genius of our time it is a blessing & clarity to listen also enquire within

[@ritesharora6032]

yes

[@sandydasilva2848]

Knowing oneself is knowing all of humanity...it is one total movement! what!!?? 😮

[@sandydasilva2848]

Observe without the word...try it. Learn about it without the word. Wow.

[@jjMavani]

The eternal in new skin ❤️❤️👏

[@ericdavenport7120]

He says what ive been listening to qt least 3 other people have said in multiple videos. I believe it to be 100% true. Your world morphs around whatever you set your consciousness and awareness to. If youre not putting your attention to things, how can those things ever change?

[@mimicnature-naturalwayoffa3972]

Just do it, please. Don’t comment, he always begged you all “do it do it do it” but you all want to comment comment comment talk talk talk talk

[@maracummings9767]

Yes ❤ I am observing the same. There, where is observation there’s no urge to talk or comment, or translate, or paraphrase

[@pumuckel378]

its crazy, so many things i was learing about myself he is talking now here with like near exect same words. u cant solve a puzzle in a horizontal way, only vertical

[@preethikrao]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@jasonrench7300]

I observed your conversation without emotion. As long as i keep myself separate from the discussion i can try to watch but even then I'm thinking about what is being stated even as i remain emotionaly detached from that conversation my mind still tried to answer the question i was observing the question yet looking for an answer at the same time. A computer could possibly just record but a human like myself finds it difficult

[@reeemx]

god bless you all in my name. thank you

[@sylviagung1007]

Timeless observation .... The time being everything in the content of conscious ... Leaping into being selfless .... Selfless observation

[@roboi2241]

That's the difference between the attention K is talking of and Zen, Tao or whatever. No matter how subtle consciousness makes attention, it is still a form of conscious awareness even if it appears to to be total unwordly attention, there is still a structure to it, a residue of time and sublimated thought emanating from the self.

[@_arturjutkowiak_film]

Krishnamurti is only an image in your mind. Get rid of it.

[@sylviagung1007]

"Take time! Take years!" K's been gone decades since, already! Jesus over 2 Millenia, Buddha Millenia more years ago, and so on, all of theirs has been getting what? I must do it now presently....

[@KINGJUNAID555]

20:21 ~ On Jealousy

[@davidjames1815]

So basically it looks like there is no approach or position at all to take in understanding/realizing the "thing" which "K" is speaking indirectly of (or alluding to), which if the listener "looks" w/o anything of the past knowledge (which is absence of approach), then the "thing" itself arises of its own, having its own energy being that it is not fueled by thinking and thought, it would be like gravity which requires no thought or effort to exist in process, and there is no disposition to "let it happen" nor to "not let it happen" nor no inbetween of any of that.....essentially like a child hearing a dog bark for the very first time and that sound is absolutely pure and no effort or qualifier placed on that sound by the child to distort it or to do anything w it. And the "barking" in and if itself is ITSELF its own absolute meaning....😮. That means that nothing whatsoever is done to that sound. One hears it and it is complete right then. Looks like the very effort to understand is itself the very thing which blocks the "thing" from arising, such that the person WILL NOT actually EMencpunter the naturally arising recognition of it, will not know what it is directly w/o thought or the past involved, and from out of that the radical transformation will not occur or will not occur instantaneously. Yet if one can encounter "this", all of one's thinking, speaking, and acting will cinch together and dovetail together. If anyone is asking, "how do I do what K suggests and make it work w my life?" That person will never arrive at that realization (or Whatever TH "it" is😂😂😂) bcz the action of needing certainty is itself part and parcel of the obstruction to the very realization itself😮. Thought says,"I". Thought also says,"TOOTH FAIRY", and "SANTA CLAUS." Doesn't make it so.😮

[@hsbdkdndn]

Why is there's is always a plane or train sound in these videos?

[@vijaykarthik2333]

What is the censor means in this context?

[@Venom_590]

Here Censor means, who is just another fragment of thought which assumes itself to be authority and tries to control, judge, condems and justify the other Fragement.

[@xdude57]

Filter we apply tied perception, that stops us from seeing 'as is'

[@shyamnair5738]

Conditioned mind

[@mahendransuji5002]

😛

[@jasonrench7300]

If i drawl a random picture im observing the movement of the ink or art utensils however i don't aee a word as the picture is random nameless its a pattern. No name for a pattern other than movement of lines. This observation can be done without emotion or a word its a random picture of nothing.

[@jasonrench7300]

To be absent minded an observation of mindless self like a video camera lacks emotion i would have to watch things move like a pattern and let them happen without any response. Absent minded patterns of events

[@pumuckel378]

A puzzle with 1000 pieces (which is you), and every piece have his own opinion, cant bring himself in order. only an obrserver from the outside can.

[@rolanquiper7503]

If the “you” is the puzzle.. it is the “you” that created that puzzle through thought.. the observer, being the “you”.. is always inside and therefore cannot observe from the outside.. In actual seeing there is no thought involved.. and therefore there is no “you”.