J. S. Bach/A. Webern: Ricercar a 6 ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Antonello Manacorda

[@batscheba7]

Music starts at 0:30 bar 9 (violin II entry) 0:51 bar 17 (viola entry) 1:10 bar 24 (violin I solo glissando) 1:27 bar 37 (trumpet entry main theme) 1:56 bar 65 (1st string tutti forte) 2:59 bar 78 (1st fermata) 3:32 bar 89 (violin I solo entry) 4:00 bar 94 (cello+double bass entry) 4:12 bar 106 (bassoon entry) 4:41 bar 115 (trumpet entry main theme) 4:59 bar 123 (»noch fließender«, first brass forte) 5:16 bar 132 (violin I solo begin of quaver line "gestrichen, zart") 5:35 bar 156 (tutti forte, 1 bar before "sehr fließend, rubato") 6:26 bar 161 (trumpet entry) 6:38 bar 165 ("tempo I. sehr ruhig") 6:48 bar 171 (clarinet entry main theme) 7:00 bar 186 (violins I entry semiquavers forte) 7:33 bar 198 (last tutti forte entry) 7:58 bar 205 (last chord fff) 8:24 applause 8:35

[@DiegoGalarragaSugoniaev]

Fantastic and very useful description! Thanks +batscheba7!!

[@batscheba7]

+Diego Galárraga Sugoniaev You are welcome! I wrote this comment for preparing cues when making orchestral parts from the complete score available at imslp. I'm glad that it's also helpful for others!

[@marinadeco7888]

Thank you!

[@alphazutn1274]

@@batscheba7 If only all humans were like you

[@juhis_oksanen]

Last winter I went to hear this at a concert hall after a busy and unpleasant week. It was already dark outside and I was starving for nice emotional things, like a cactus is starving for rain. Then this music began and every single note of this piece felt delighful and lovely. The orchestra was pouring warm and sweet honey to my ears! There are moments in life when you remember why you love music so much! :)

[@igorgeros5949]

Моё любимое музыкальное произведение всех времён и народов! И тончайшая до нюансов его аранжировка. Браво Иоганн, браво Антон! И браво Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra!

[@luiscypher3234]

Рождественский со Стокгольмским - вообще полный улет.

[@igorgeros5949]

@@luiscypher3234 Спасибо за наводку - обязательно гляну!

[@notaire2]

Die Synchronisierung aller Instrumente ist perfekt. Der Konzertmeister spielt echt schön. Wirklich J.S. Bach im 20. Jahrhundert!

[@timotheuspeter734]

Sie haben Ihren "Standardkommentar" wohl etwas abgewandelt? Jedenfalls freut es mich stets aufs Neue, Sie unter einem Video anzutreffen, um gemeinsam der wunderbarsten Musik zu huldigen.

[@samuelfabian9737]

Eines der größten Paradoxe der Musikgeschichte. Das Thema des "Musikalischen Opfers" wie auch die meisten Werke Weberns sind geradezu anti-romantisch. Aber gegen den Schluss hin steigert sich das Stück ins Grenzenlose, wenn das Thema im Bass mit dem abschließenden Paukenschlag gekrönt wird. Die Aufführung mit dem hr-Sinfonieorchester ist großartig!

[@JASalam]

Cuantos deseos y frases, siguiendo un eterno retorno a la melodia base, a esa idea que insiste una y otra vez en reaparecer, como una presencia inmortal. Creo que la eternidad está siempre poc comenzar en Bach

[@LeonardoToshimitsu]

Os pizzicatos da transcrição do Webern ficaram absolutamente perfeitos.

[@ExAnimoPortugal]

Truly great music sounds good with any arrangement.

[@luizfernandohauck4000]

não é assim, não. Um orquestrador ruim pode bem estragar essa peça ou mesmo fazer uma orquestração indigna. O feito do Webern é impressionante.

[@GoehnerMoreno]

It is almost a religious experience. Bravissimo maestro Manacorda! Anton Von Webern did an intriguing setting here--ethereal, moody, and magnificent in its scope--due justice to the pinnacle of counterpoint. I sincerely believe the old man himself would have approved wholeheartedly of the Klangfarbenmelodie transcribing idea.

[@muslit]

I don't think so. Bach would have been dumbfounded.

[@muslit]

@@JohnnyBrook It sounds like you're projecting what you feel about W's Ricercar a 6 onto Bach. Bach, a conservative, would have been dumbfounded by W's orchestration.

[@frenchimp]

@@muslit I don't view Bach as a conservative at all. He was a researcher. He always sought to explore the limits. He was inspired by his predecessors, but also by his contemporaries. He absorbed all the good music he could come by. And extracted the gist of it and incorporated it into his own personal musical cosmos.

[@q-tuber7034]

No “Von,” just Anton Webern. (Compare Karl Maria von Weber, from a different era.)

[@henrycbrenner114]

Very nice. I just returned from a NYC Ballet performance of this piece, choreographed by Balanchine. I suppose one could question whether it makes sense to break up the fugal subject and have it played by different instruments. But after hearing the first three movements of the ballet, done to Webern's 12-tone (?) music, this Bach transcription was a welcome relief.

[@Ace_of_Empires]

The greatest performance of the greatest transcription of the greatest piece

[@muslit]

in the old days, a conductor would have given a firm indication of the ending of the final chord. in the 21st century, this has been replaced with the infinite sound gesture, of having the sound melt into the acoustic. of course, this will be replaced as well. we just don't know when.

[@orb3796]

@ReaIly I do

[@pedronaccarato484]

ReaIly yeah, me too

[@frenchimp]

In the old days, a conductor would have hit his foot firmly with his staff, causing injury, grangrene an a definitive ending of his life.

[@MichaelRupprecht]

großartig!

[@franckmousset4022]

Magnifique.

[@andrekuratomi3880]

A Masterversion of a Masterpiece. Great performance!

[@willytv3067]

Gödel, Escher, Bach brought me here

[@theopenmouth9695]

Brilliant

[@davidriggenbach6672]

YES! The old man would have been in complete ectasis if he had seen this clip somehow right before his death! Fantastic reinterpretation of his composition using modern instruments!

[@williamjcward]

such a suave, sumptious interpretation....

[@Pouffecal]

Ha ! Bach qui devient du Wagner ! C'est vraiment fantastique !

[@mariodaletta442]

Il consiglio che mi sento di offrirti è quello di studiare Bach, Wagner e infine Webern, quando avrai fatto questo....capirai. Studiare, studiare, studiare. Ciao.

[@Pouffecal]

Penso di aver studiato molto Bach, Tristan e Schönberg e ho il diritto di esprimere la mia opinione. ..

[@mariodaletta442]

Scusami, ma avevo risposto al giudizio dato da PointyTailofSatan, non al tuo. Però io sono del parere che solo un musicista può capire che cosa inventa un altro musicista. Sono d'accordo che il giudizio di tutti è legittimo, ma se non si tiene conto del contesto storico-musicale di una composizione il giudizio di ciascuno è inutile.

[@colemiller771]

Brass starting around 5:16 sounds like the Kyrie from Mozart's C-minor Mass!

[@julianmanjarres1998]

More like the Mozart sounds like the Bach

[@bibifrijam]

0:33

[@user-pq9yg2pq6h]

Unglaublich schön. (Fast so schön wie Vogelgezwitscher.) Für mich 1 grundwirk- samer Impfstoff, ich impf mich mit Vogelgesang u. Bach u.* ... , ich bin Gärtnarr, für "normale" Menschen ein : Idiot. Na und . ?! 22.09.2021 Ernst Lustig * schwimmen im See, gleich gehts hinein :- ))

[@gerdprengel7616]

I must admit that this Webern arrangement does not emotionally reach me at all. I just wrote my own orchestra version which takes more the approach like Beethoven in his c#-string quartet op. 131: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmTaoZSCgseYepo

[@MrGleamMusic]

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[@okany]

wem gehört die Orchesterfassung

[@МиоМой]

Anton Webern

[@ВладимирУ-т3ц]

Как соеденить музыку о вечности и трагедию Украины. 🇺🇦❤️🖤

[@ProdigyImprovisation]

The fugue sounds distorted when they switch the instrumentation in the middle of the fugal subject. Keep it the same all the way until the subject ends it’s turn! Then you can switch the instrument for the upcoming fugue. The orchestra needs to play according to counterpoint!! Otherwise it’s just a mixture of sound. Bach is not a product of the 21st century!

[@korhonenmikko]

Thanks for your input, I will let Anton Webern know this when he's not busy being one of the most influential composers of the 20th century.

[@ProdigyImprovisation]

@@korhonenmikko I understand it’s an experiment & he can do as he wishes! I don’t mean to interrupt his choice, but as a listener I’d like to share my honest opinion about the way it sounds to me. It would rather be more significant if one instrument completely finishes its turn for the subject this way it will make a statement & more obvious when the subject enters the scene. To me, this will then sound more like a king staying true to all of his commands.

[@PointyTailofSatan]

This is a perfect example of how NOT to transcribe Bach to an orchestra. If an organist changed stops four times each time he played the theme, people would think them insane. Bach's music loses all it's melodic continuity. It's like applying 12 tone rules to melodic registration.

[@RonnyDoplo]

You must know better than one of the most important composers of the 20th century huh

[@javiervivanco919]

PointyTailofSatan ignoró!

[@Mjollnir1234]

It doesn't need to maintain melodic continuity to be a vital, invigorating interpretation.

[@mariodaletta442]

La musica non ti appartiene, essa appartiene alle persone coraggiose, non ai matematici. Bisogna studiare...e a fondo. Poi in ultima analisi non sei certo un musicista, solo i musicisti possono parlare di invenzione, la stragrande maggioranza e relegata a ruolo di meri ascoltatori, mi dispiace ma questa e la cruda verità.....perdono!!!!!

[@Pouffecal]

It's what school of vienna called "Klangfarbenmelodie". You like it or not, it's a matter of taste...

[@brandong3816]

This arrangement sounds like a long, slow, sad trip to the bathroom, like it could be for a commercial for Imodium AD or Pepto Bismol

[@stephanieflorencesenn7487]

👏👎

[@bachisback71]

Orribile l'orchestrazione di Webern. Non funziona proprio: caotica, timbricamente parlando

[@tatalito]

playing MODERN string instruments ?? why not the real way...using baroque instruments ?

[@grahamnancledra7036]

How Awful. No wonder I detest so much of 20th Century music. I can feel Bach turning in his grave.

[@GUILLOM]

Okay friend 🥰

[@segmentsAndCurves]

LMFAO