Was there any Hope for the New Middle Eastern Nations? |History of the Middle East 1922-1930 - 16/21

[@coolguy69420L]

“These two had a long-standing rivalry” Has become a cornerstone phrase of this channel.

[@konstantinriumin2657]

"And once again massacres took place"

[@SeoulMan]

Tribalism into Nationalism is definitely a huge undertaking.

[@majidbineshgar7156]

Tribalism into " Nationalist Tribalism " is very dangerous.

[@lipingrahman6648]

Not really nationalism is just tribalism on a slightly larger scale. It’s much easier to cobble together a working state if the conquered peoples look alike, speak the same language, and have the same religion.

[@EdT.-xt6yv]

​@@lipingrahman6648 same abrahamic theo. , genetics, looks, & uninhabitable desert ?

[@lipingrahman6648]

@@rarelife1 indeed, but it need not be wholly homogenous to create a working nation. For example India in 1947 was a far more divided but managed to form a kind of Indian identity. The Arabs are simply not that good at such things.

[@lipingrahman6648]

@@rarelife1 you can have nationalism without a civil society. An example is Bangladesh, my people have the idea of Bangladeshis as one language, religion, and culture. The country has small ethnic and religious groups but they are not fully counted as citizens and are treated poorly. But most people don’t care. You can have civil nationalism like the US, India, or Canada or ethnic nationalism such China, Japan, or most of Europe. The Arabs have neither.

[@toast_cat2265]

As an Iraqi I wanna say you did a super job man like it's always the unknown guy's like you that construct these pieces of gold you call a video thank you dude keep it up please if u can man

[@mattythefatty6442]

I really appreciate your videos on the Middle East and the depth that you have gone into. Thank you!

[@darekfodor2168]

When you were about to sleep but Jazby just uploaded a new video and it's long as always:

[@concept5631]

Understandable

[@evopeto00]

I sleep to these vids 🧠

[@balabanasireti]

This joke stopped being funny years ago

[@SirBoggins]

Yup and this makes me want to go to sleep...

[@DJLaZyI]

Stop this, that's literally me

[@spyczech]

Huge to hear this period of history explained more, its so important how the world is the way it is today the 1900-40 colonial rule era

[@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273]

It was until 1950s not 40

[@spyczech]

@@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 True True, maybe its kind of like how people consider the "long 1800s" to extend to 1914 I was subetely categorizing the 50s as the "long 40's"

[@holyfool343]

It takes a real knack to pull off presentations as insightful and informative as these are. It’s not hard to present this history in such a way so as to make the European colonial powers look bad. To make all the squabbling locals stabbing each other in the back in bids for power is something else entirely.

[@thisisforsteam2316]

can't wait for part 25!

[@JuanCanuck]

nice work, great series

[@AlanJosC]

Please do a series like this for Africa with new fresh borders.

[@haikucrane]

It is crucial to gain a deeper understanding of the events that led to the current state of the world, specifically the era of colonial rule. While it may be convenient to hold Britain and France solely responsible for the issues in the Middle East

[@raftguy1376]

You could look at it that way. Or you could also see that when a civilization is functioning at a high level, its influence expands. Often its borders expand. The reason Britain and France were in that area, was because they were functioning at a high level and there was a power, economic, technological, and cultural cohesion vacuum in the region that was present before they ever got there. Had the ME been an advanced and unified state, there never would have been colonies. And considering this is the literal cradle of human civilization, its pretty obvious that stagnation is to blame. They had a giant head start and squandered it.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

​@@raftguy1376giant headstart? so was mesopotamia, egypt, india, greek, etc. empires come and go.

[@barahng]

​@@raftguy1376By the same token that's why Japan was never properly colonized. They were unified and strong enough to keep interlopers out until Perry. And after that it was still in a strong enough position to ward off the less tangible forms of foreign meddling for long enough for it to industrialize and become a peer to the European powers.

[@icysaracen3054]

Watching your series has taught me one thing about the Middle East: Nationalism and borders are Western ideas that are truly alien to a civilisation of various ethnic groups, including Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Berbers, and others, who are accustomed to living under dynasties where allegiance was towards the ruling family rather than the nation-state, as is seen in post-French Revolution Europe. Remember, Saladin and the Ayyubids were a Kurdish ruling family who held possession of two great Arab-dominated lands - Syria and Egypt - which would later be passed on to the Turkish slave dynasty, the Mamluks. It frustrates me that the British, who have a history with the Middle East, failed to convey this to the Americans prior to the invasion of Iraq. They should have used their own medieval history and their history of dealing with the Muslim world to understand the complexity of how these Muslim states function. Also it taught the Americans that you cannot be the world police and simply remove a power structure without any consequences. We saw the rise of ISIS and decades prior the rise of the Taliban after the Communist regime in Afghanistan collapsed.

[@jayfreechavez0000]

2 weeks ago you uploaded an almost 7 hour long video and I'm still hoping for a 24 hour long video ❤ I love your voice Sir ❤ Great video as always ❤

[@EduNauta95]

12:30 that's kinda the plot of tintin's comic book Coque en stock

[@Wiiindoww]

Goat text level content

[@HistoryForYou68]

The middle eastern historical movie is very good. After watching it, I have a better understanding of the countries in the middle east. Thank

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

The fact that all these new arab countries had little to no development when they become independent/colonized says a lot about the ottoman empire.

[@456t23]

What does it say

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

​@@456t23that Ottomans didn't developed those regions

[@deathlydashi]

Why are saudis so historically illiterate?

[@ahmadfrhan5265]

@@deathlydashi You mean 👱🏻‍♂️ people?

[@sowonkun]

The ottomans killed many people in medina and tried to replace them with turks, that explains it all.. without mentioning that they have killed the last abbasid caliph​@@456t23

[@alarabi98]

As a Middle Eastern Arab, those who say that there is no hope here, you're just wrong. Honestly, life in the Peninsula (minus Yemen for obvious reasons) has been good, and honestly have been getting much better as the years go on. Stuff is getting better. The Levant however is a clusterfuck.

[@John-wg9mb]

And that is mainly cuz of the foreign intervention

[@HOPEfullBoi01]

​@@John-wg9mb "foreign" being the sauds

[@deathlydashi]

Arabia and the levant are not real nations

[@gunterxvoices4101]

The Levant is pretty epic unless you live under Islamic law. Lebanon is confusing tho

[@Fai9albinKhalid3]

Nah, stop blaming everything on "Islamic law" the mentioned Gulf countries are following the Islamic laws more seriously, however you see that the life in the Gulf is much much better Does that clarify anything? If you keep that washed mindset you wont understand the middle east or any part of history never, in fact you should turn your sight to the colonial history of these nations to understand @@gunterxvoices4101

[@Tupadre97]

"many were in fact kidnapped by other slaves who sought to raise money for their own freedom" WTF?????

[@fernit0505]

Welcome to the Middle East

[@cadestrathern1260]

11:28, very interesting statistic considering all the migrant workers working under horrible conditions there today, it seems that area has a history of this.

[@DrShocktopus]

That's just Asia in general, just look at the East Asian working culture and the Indian caste system, in India if you belong to a lower caste, you literally cannot get certain jobs, so the caste you get born into determines your job. Nothing has changed when it comes to cultural practices.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Wrong in one thing it was definitely a thing in a past but not now. Problem nowadays is of discrimination. You can get jobs but doesn't mean you won't face discrimination​@@DrShocktopus

[@Alqoaity]

Most of these South Asian cheap workers from the “lower classes” in the Gulf countries are treated much better by far than in their homeland, where classism systems makes them live worse than slaves. they also receive a salaries that they cannot dream of there, you can easily find many videos for some of them who breaking down in tears after being deported due to legal violations. claiming that they are a “slaves” is just a nonsense western propaganda.

[@valmarsiglia]

The e in Kabyle is silent if pronouncing it the French way, though in English the second syllable rhymes with "mile," in keeping with the Arabic al-qabā'il.

[@bosbanon3452]

Isn't Qabail mean tribe ? So their tribe name mean tribe?😅

[@valmarsiglia]

@@bosbanon3452 Yeah, it's actually the Arabic exonym, so it literally means "tribe." They call themselves Izwawen and a couple of other names.

[@SuperBadadan]

It's easy to blame Britain and France for the clusterfuck of the Middle East, but this series shows just how really you could get the most skilled and good-willed statesmen and diplomats on the job and it would still end in chaos.

[@fanthony]

Exactly what I was going to say! There was much brutal Muslim-on-Muslim violence for 100s of years before the Europeans arrived as a conquering force. This violence was in par with the violence that Europe experienced internally for centuries before WW1. The sustained peace in Europe over the last several decades after WW2 is a recent and novel phenomenon.

[@skykid]

this is partially true however a number of Western elements such as nationalism, imperialism, Israel, and just OIL kinda made the old rivalries much more complicated, industrialized, and total

[@DrShocktopus]

@@skykidYeah it was like Europe (pre WW2) except with foreign influences (aka the Europeans and the US) which exaggerbates the situation.

[@RobespierreThePoof]

I don't think this video is detailed enough to explain why the Middle East is in the ruinous state that its been in since sometime after 1918. It's a very complicated question. The impact of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire is often underestimated. The Ottomans, arguably, held the Arab world in a "suspended state" after the decline and conquest of the medieval Islamic Empire - which is still remembered by Arabs of numerous political ideologies as the high point of Arab Civilization - a period of lost glory. There's also questions about whether or not Islam is itself a force of stagnation. It's a very impolite question, but a serious one.

[@fanthony]

@@skykid Imperialism is hardly a western concept, if anything it was perfected into an art form by Islamic empires. Nadir Shah’s brutal raids into Muslim-ruled India, under the Mughals, is remembered to this day with much hatred and disdain by the Hindus, who were at receiving end of the terror he unleashed, especially their wealthy, historic places of worship. The same goes for any number of other Afghan and Turkic warmongers who made a hobby of raiding Indian wealth over the centuries. As for nationalism, the 100s of years that the Persian empire spent warring with the Ottomans is extremely well documented. Israel or not, sparring Muslim tribes and factions needed no additional incentive to kil each other, even in the name of Islam. This is not unlike pre-WW1 Europe for several centuries. Oil just gave the Middle East access to seemingly unlimited wealth through hyperlocal natural resources. Even without that, Muslim empires were at each other’s throats for a very long time. The decentralized nature of the Ottoman Empire is not well understood by many. The endless wars between the Sublime Porte and the ambitious, independence-oriented provinces of the empire in North Africa, especially Egypt, led to much bloodshed, and this was really Sunni-on-Sunni violence, before someone chimes in to cast the the Persian-Ottoman rivalry as a Shia-Sunni affair.

[@hishamalaker491]

12:27 That one slave for some f*cking reason: *NO* 🗿🤫🧏🏻‍♂

[@SuperBadadan]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

[@michaelowino228]

Good video.

[@BobaFett-sy3fq]

Wow I did not expect to see John Philby to be mentioned here. When I lived in Saudi Arabia I actually knew the Grand-daughter and Great-grand children of John Philby (or perhaps a generation more down the line, I am not completely sure). We were actually neighbors at one point. They were a nice family.

[@mikesands4681]

It's a lot to keep track of

[@majidbineshgar7156]

Regarding the Berbers and Kabyle , yes they must have Germanic , Roman admixture considering Romans and Greeks had heavily colonised north Africa and subsequently Germanic Vandals and Goths settled there and mixed with the local population .

[@Space..space..spacedgh]

@majidbineshgar7156 there was no Greeks colonies west of Carthage in Africa as the was a kingdom established there Numidia and kings of Numidia allied with Rome or Carthage during the Punic wars, later becoming a client state of Rome, king juba of Numidia fought on against Caesar's armies in north Africa. Yes Rome had a lot of influence the region but not the goths or vandals, yes 80,000 invaded but lost most control of the region to Berber tribes after 40-60 years of them being there and most their power base was in modern Tunisia not Alegria , and they continued to lose control and influence until Belisarius destroyed the last remnant of vandal kingdom in 534, the Berbers and Kabyle would have barely if any Germanic admixture , maybe some of Tunisia definitely not for most of Alegria

[@s.s.p.9680]

Language and religion is actually the first thing that is changed by colonisers. If that did not change, than the colonisers must have been a tiny minority.

[@ahmadfrhan5265]

Am Berber and no the rulers where Germanic and Roman and we are not 👱🏻‍♂️ those who have 👱🏻‍♂️ skin like me our grandfathers enslaved 🇪🇺 women so normally there’s mix but we are of our fathers not of enslaved women

[@zhcultivator]

what??? lmao

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

3:10 I doubt the sincerity of the source used. This neither sounds like Sir Percy Cox nor does it sound like Ibn Saud, the man who had fought several wars and had 47 bullets in his body was “breaking down and offering half of his kingdom” ????

[@Alghi451]

Look at Kalb ghabi who use bonafide monafide name instead of arap name, she might be shy to show arap name buahahaha

[@mznxbcv12345]

Makes european history look cartoonshly simplified. So much for "individualism" being a european thing haha, as if.

[@Morso8]

6:49 Otaibah 🫡🫡🫡511

[@djackmanson]

Great work, so much detail. One minor correction: the English name St John is usually pronounced "Sinjin" (really). See, for example, the Wikipedia article on the minor British politician Norman St John-Stevas - there's a pronunciation guide near the top. Thanks again for so much education.

[@geoffreylee5199]

In the 1950-1960s they tried the panArabic again.

[@turplexx233]

23:32 Before the Ottomans of 1520s Northern Iraq was mostly Alevi Turkmen. Then Ottomans settled sunni kurds into there for assimilating Alevi Turkmens.

[@s.s.p.9680]

This doesn' t answer why Kurds are in the mountains and Turkmens are in the metropolis.

[@majidbineshgar7156]

Saint Augustine one of the greatest Christian philosophers was of Berber origin.

[@ahmadfrhan5265]

You will never be 👱🏻‍♂️

[@fernit0505]

Could you please upload your sources? I have to do a paper on this topic and I could really use them and complement them with your video, which is awesome by the way. Thanks!

[@davidsparrow-m3p]

Good w ork. As always

[@RobespierreThePoof]

Not including North Africa, the period of time that the Arab world is under the control of French and British empire is very short. Far, far shorter than the rest of the world. So why does it get such undue emphasis? It seems to me that the Ottoman Empire has so much more of an impact on producing the disaster that is the middle East after decolonization. It's very strange that there should be so much animosity to the West in the Arab world when there is NONE for Turkey.

[@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273]

It is the western with settlement Colonial outpost country (zionist state) and bases Have you look at the map of American bases in mena region...?

[@vincentcorvus3063]

Because the Ottomans did not colonise, they conquered and then relied on a decentralised government to rule. That, and in places like Algieria, they expected improvements by the western powers only to realise that it was just for exploitation. And the Arabs do criticise the Ottomans. Most Muslims do. The Ottomans are very heavily criticised due to their medieval standards of warfare and lack of Islamic rules of war during the later centuries. Also, Turkey became a secular country. Not only that, the Arabs hold to their contribution of ending the Ottoman Empire. In that sense, that animosity is not as obvious since Turkey is viewed as a Western country. Like Muslims from Africa still view Turkey as more of a European country than a Muslim country despite the recent efforts by Erdoğan to push for his islamist views or the fact that a majority of the population are Muslim. The recent municipal votes in Istanbul should show that the Turks still favour secularism too which only adds to the rest of the Islamic world viewing them as westerners.

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

@@vincentcorvus3063 The ottomans aren’t criticized enough for their exploitation of arab countries

[@s.s.p.9680]

Ottoman and before.

[@desolder75]

@@vincentcorvus3063 When the Ottomans conquered the Balkans, they resettled Muslim Anatolians into the conquered Christian lands in order to solidify their gains. That is the very definition of colonization. In fact, there are many former mosques in the Balkan countries that were converted to Churches when the muslims were finally expelled.

[@aaakenway2416]

So when do we get to see what borders you think would be ideal for the Middle East?

[@sagittariusa7662]

Not Really.

[@mrcombine4312]

please do one of the flq in quebec!

[@ShalomMF]

Its interesting how the societies on each continent in succession go through horribly violent periods until they settle down. Asia had it, Central America had it, Africa has it but N.America, Europe, Australia appear to be done, over it and life is better in those places. Its our mission as humans to Evolve.

[@beepbop6542]

It's a temporary state of affairs.

[@desolder75]

Pax Americana. You're welcome.

[@MikeMyers-th1rk]

@@desolder75cry about it

[@the_feedle]

12:00 slavery in Qatar ? Well, nothing changed...

[@mr.x817]

Slaves are allowed in the Bible & Quran. How you treat them should be in accordance to the Quran or Bible.

[@Alqoaity]

BBC fans:

[@tarantula51]

absolutely NOT

[@snakey934Snakeybakey]

Thank you for inaccurate portrayal of the riots in mandatory Palestine. The popular Pseudo-historical narrative is that the British sided with the Israelis, and desecrations of Jewish holy sites, and the massacres in holy cities like Hebron and Safed are ignored.

[@sowonkun]

7:30 That's simply no true. He was a member of the tribe not a decendent of the sheikh, and he wasn't alone he was in a goup of multi background people and from pretty much all saudi tribes; They thought mahdi was coming. The Utaibah tribe has two sheikhs not one cause there are two main branches of the tribe, and each branch has 6 to 12 branches, one of the sheikhs was the leader of the national guard. Don't Make such a horrible statement without researching or even backing what you've said with sources.

[@Thecrazymcr]

That's not true , as stated he wanted revenge

[@sowonkun]

@@Thecrazymcr stated by whom? They were a terrorist group who thought that someone of them is the Mehdi (promised prophet) Muhammad al-qahtani

[@Thecrazymcr]

@@sowonkun they said on the microphone that they are decent of the Akhon and The Utaibah Sheikh Sultan Bin Bgad.If you want to read more historical facts about the matter you can check Prof.Abdullah Al-Nafisi work.

[@mznxbcv12345]

Of particular note is in how enslavement in the Middle Earth (more accurate than middle of a direction), was epistemologically and practically wholly different from the one undertaken by chattel enslavers of those from European background. It was not predicated upon notions of supremacy backed by quakeries masquerading as science.

[@scott2452]

…i’m not sure where you got the idea there was no racial/cultural chauvinism in the Middle East… The death rate of slaves crossing the Sahara was far higher than crossing the Atlantic.. Plus, male slaves were generally castrated and female slaves were bought for the explicit purpose of sex. I wouldn’t want to be a slave at all, but if I had to choose, I’d be going to North America.

[@vincentcorvus3063]

​@@scott2452 That too depends on when and where. African slaves were sometimes castrated, but that practice varies since in general, slave communities were used as well while in other cases, slaves were used in the army and trained to fight such as the Mamluks. There is generally a higher chance for a slave in the middle East to gain a high position within society, but again, it differs such as with Malik Ambar who became a Sultan and tried to defeat the Mughal Empire. The later and more tribalistic Arabs were more harsher towards their slaves as most Muslims will know, but then again, Africans were also harsh on other African slaves too but that differs from place and time. In general, you'd likely not have a chance to free yourself from a European colonist compared to an Arab slaver. Cause a slave can simply convert and then it is regarded as illegal to enslave another Muslim. The Arabs treated it on more economic grounds, but yeah, harsh treated was still used on slaves.

[@scott2452]

@@vincentcorvus3063 Agree with everything you wrote (though there are plenty of cases of emancipation in North America…either from the slave holders themselves, or from fighting alongside the British)…it is also worth pointing out that the Mamluk slaves were usually Turks, Albanians, Georgians etc. which can point to racial/cultural views in the region.

[@Saufs0ldat]

The main difference is that Arabs castrated their slaves. That's why you have descendants of slaves in the US living better lives than any Africans while there are little to no descendants of slaves in the middle east because they committed a pre-emptive genocided. Also, there were virtually no "enslavers" with a European background, only slave traders. Africans were enslaved by other Africans and Arabs, who then sold them to Europeans for a lot of money. Lastly, scientific racial theory played no role in the Atlantic slave trade. It didn't come along until much later.

[@mznxbcv12345]

what? there were and there are no religion more forbidding of slavery than Islam. What's little publiczed these days is how several orders of magnitude the byzantine slev trade was bigger compared to its Arabian counterpart. Even the emperor had a eunuch play...boy to sleep with him every night. One thing the archologists remarked on the period was how rare it is to find shackles in lands ruled by Islam at that time, while the museums alone had curated over 500,000 of these from byzantium (which means there must have been dozens of millions originally as they are over a thousand years old!). There were eunuchs in there too, however that process was aeen as abominable by Muslims so the coptic church and other churches were reponsible for castrating the slaves, as they had been before Islam.

[@Brian-----]

🙃 By a devious strategy indeed, maybe Turkey won the war.

[@AC-py9dk]

You guys still lost three quarters of your land 😂

[@PsaMatrius]

@@AC-py9dk Turks war freedom against that.

[@m.fshekho7475]

Free Kurdistan

[@Ciech_mate]

Is it me or do you hold the European nations accountable for their violence and not the Muslims, feels like you are impartial to their violence and you gloss over it. Can you clear this up for me as I generally watch a lot of you. I essentially want to know if you have a bias. Thanks

[@nathanielzarny1176]

At 31:20 you don't mention that the reason the numbers were so even was because the British police killed Muslims who were attacking Jews, it was a massacre the British barely stopped, not a battle.

[@JabzyJoe]

Fair point

[@Mur76ad70]

Freedom for Palestine

[@gunterxvoices4101]

Free? I'll take your whole stock!

[@moondiegordr]

Not chronically ordered, at first I liked the Videos but not anymore, its loose information and constanz jumps in time, often I dont know about which year youre talking

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

This topic is way too big for a 40 minute video many details are missing about Arabia(VERY VERY VAST LAND) and also some details are out right a lie like Arab racial purity non mixing marriages.

[@berkhan1064]

Another video another: "All colonisers are bad, except the British". I'm sorry but even with the benefit of the doubt, the bias is not difficult to see. The pattern is way too obvious. Like obviously the French, Italians and Spaniards were brutal, but so were the British.

[@JabzyJoe]

Which brutal acts did I leave out?

[@berkhan1064]

@@JabzyJoe I hope to answer this question in the upcoming days, as it deserves to be well formulated and structured.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Reminder​@@berkhan1064

[@berkhan1064]

@@JabzyJoe I have not forgotten about this. After next week, I will have the time to conduct some additional research.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

22:14

[@cbbcbb6803]

A nation is not yhe same as a country.

[@deathlydashi]

Israel and balqa are nations

[@Mastenbrille]

Imam Malik, Imam al-Shafi'i, Imam Ahmad, Al-Ajurry, Al-Nasa'i, Abu Dawud, Imam Muslim, Imam Al-Bukhari, Al-Tirmidhi, Ibn 'Abdil-Barr, Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Kathir, Ibn Rajab, Ibn Al Qayyim, etc were all Wahhabis even before Muhammad Bin 'Abdil-Wahhab was born. Don't spread this lie of "Wahhabi ideology". I am an Algerian and our people are "Wahhabis". This is a malicious lie against the people of Truth

[@hanulu1]

based

[@bosbanon3452]

​@@hanulu1lie

[@bosbanon3452]

Your group changed a lot the books of ancient muslkm scholar so those book fit them, North African are athari but the Wahabi have different type of Atharism, your original Athari creed didn't make Allah like man, if there's a verse about hand of Allah, so be it the verse say but not make further explanation about the hand of Allah

[@bosbanon3452]

Ibn Tumart was an exception 😅

[@Mastenbrille]

@@bosbanon3452 That's how we treat attributes of Allah.

[@omgraggy5358]

So how wrong is he in this video?

[@APerson4889-g5f]

There was never hope for the Middle East period. Place has been a non-stop warzone and filled with oppression for 5000 years. As they say in Australia: shit's fucked, mate.

[@hadiadil6693]

As funny as it sounds, your comment reminds me of europe.. regardless, wars are enevitable.

[@Alqoaity]

Well, the Lebanese/Middle easterns will control Australia just as they did in Latin America, just wait a while.

[@Alqoaity]

well, Lebanese will control Australia just as they did in Latin America, just wait a while.

[@borneandayak6725]

They all need Christ for sure, not Islam.

[@jotaro2690]

The west abandoned christ

[@hanulu1]

You guys need to find him first before trying to convert us.

[@death-istic9586]

Yo.❤😊

[@maku8075]

Arabia under the Ottoman colonization was a dark times for Arabia

[@ahmedas424]

The Levant and Iraq were even worse Funnily enough people tolerated British and French occupation more than Ottoman Turk occupation

[@nataliepeiffer9733]

first

[@LeperMessiah01234]

Playing the worlds tiniest violin for these countries occupied for like 15 years. Germany has been occupied for over 80

[@bobdollaz3391]

And the Germans have contributed far. More to society!

[@zhcultivator]

what? lol cope

[@zhcultivator]

cope I guess

[@depreciatingasset]

100k in carencia?? I doubt population of that density in the desert

[@54032Zepol]

Ooohhh a pan Islamic state?! Good try Muslims better luck next time!!

[@majidbineshgar7156]

Don't worry it has never happened never will happen, Islam is a religion not a nation , that religion might have official status in some countries but there are nations ( e.g. Iranic peoples ) whose pre-Islamic cultural identity and their national language is far stronger therefore they have always refused to be amalgamated into a Arabic-Islamic world .

[@Proudguy211]

Who the hell are to choose for us

[@majidbineshgar7156]

@@Proudguy211 Who is " us "?

[@54032Zepol]

@@majidbineshgar7156 muslims

[@54032Zepol]

@@majidbineshgar7156 pan Islamic is a real national theory not impossible just look at Israel, for hundreds of years no one thought they would have their own nation

[@depreciatingasset]

2ikhwan. Hust say brotherhood

[@depreciatingasset]

Aljawf

[@depreciatingasset]

Najran

[@Victor-dx2ew]

Should have stayed colonised

[@concept5631]

🤨🤨🤨

[@SethTheOrigin]

correct. why else do you think hundreds of millions are still scrambling to get european citizenships. They lack the intelligence to govern themselves

[@islammehmeov2334]

They should hsve stayed as TURISH lands

[@SuperBadadan]

@@islammehmeov2334 Yeah because we know just how good the Turks treat their minorities.

[@islammehmeov2334]

@@SuperBadadan considering the situation with Saudi arabia Qatar and UAE I think they were OK

[@raedvalenzuela5085]

There is a lot of MISINFORMATION-about Palestine. Sorry but this vid is very inaccurate historically

[@gunterxvoices4101]

Muslims when history and facts exist: