Jack Johnson vs James J. Jeffries (Full Fight)

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@Chief2Moon
@Chief2Moon 5 жыл бұрын
We're lucky to have these old films intact. Thanks!
@AJxxxxxxxx
@AJxxxxxxxx 3 жыл бұрын
I really wish there were more of George Benton and Ray Robinson
@stuartperry1047
@stuartperry1047 5 жыл бұрын
Jack Johnson entering that ring, in front of that crowd- gives me goose bumps. He had a different kind of brass and had to be one of the bravest men who ever lived. To a man, nearly everyone in that crowd hated his guts, and came there to see him beaten; destroyed. And Johnson just smiles- because, even if the crowd doesn't know it, he knows what the outcome will be. He was one hell of a man!
@chuckweiny1546
@chuckweiny1546 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't hate Jack, that's an understatement, they wanted that man dead. They brought in Bat Masterson to collect everyone's guns before they went in. Jack's philosophy was simple, we're all gonna die anyway, I'm gonna live my life on my own terms. Jack's legacy is severely underrated as a champion and as a man.
@botfields_hardcoregamer6401
@botfields_hardcoregamer6401 5 жыл бұрын
Facts
@botfields_hardcoregamer6401
@botfields_hardcoregamer6401 5 жыл бұрын
@@chuckweiny1546 facts
@LorenzoGonzalesBrady
@LorenzoGonzalesBrady 4 жыл бұрын
He beat the fuck out of the “Great White Hope,” Jim Jeffries. It was such a beating that screenings of its footage were banned all throughout the south.
@whatwhat4226
@whatwhat4226 4 жыл бұрын
Your comments brings tears to my eyes
@stevewhite8059
@stevewhite8059 3 жыл бұрын
I've only just found this - a huge thank you for putting it on, I feel privileged to have finally seen this fight to it's fullest possible extent. Fight fans were of course used to the way boxers of this era would throw a couple or three punches and then clinch for what seemed ages at a time, without the ref breaking them up. This was the way they fought back then. But I noticed throughout the fight that Jeffries was taking some devastating head-shots all the way through and they must have had a powerful cumulative effect which finally took their toll on him (even with though he had the help of so many onlookers/cheats!) A perfect fight from the great Jack Johnson. Having watched this and many other fight films from that era, it's easy to see how Jack Dempsey lit up the boxing scene just a few years later with his relentless aggressive style and non stop excitement. Dempsey brought the boxing world into the 20th century, but thanks to people like you, we can enjoy and compare all these different fighters and styles now like we never had the access to do in the past. Thanks again.
@joe56984
@joe56984 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It’s a file I found years ago and uploaded when I found it to be very hard to find. It’s an interesting look into how boxing was and what it has become. Some people say Jeffries and Johnson were too small to be competitive with today’s heavyweights, but imagine what giants those men could have been with today’s nutrition and health regimens? The average lifespan back then for a man was around 50.
@stevewhite8059
@stevewhite8059 3 жыл бұрын
@@joe56984 Absolutely. Johnson and Jeffries were big men in their times, I always remember a picture of Jeffries & Bob Fitzsimmons touching gloves before their fight. I know Speckled Bob was only a Middleweight really (but hard as iron) but Jeff's arms alone looked bigger than Bob's torso in that pic! The really big Heavyweights (apart from some exceptions of course) didn't really come about until the 1960s and then later came the GIANTS. I'm of the belief that people (men AND women) were so much harder/tougher in past times as suited their living environments. Even in my lifetime physical work has become more and more automated, whereas back in the days of Jeff & Johnson etc everything was done by hand, so everyone was naturally stronger instead of spending all day in the gym to put on the muscle. Also strongers minds back then. Imagine the determination of Jack Johnson every time he stepping in the ring knowing he had almost the whole of the so-called 'civilised' world against him. A giant indeed, it's about time he was mentioned in the same breath as Ali. Thanks again, you're doing a great job.
@robertmacleod7587
@robertmacleod7587 Жыл бұрын
yes nothing else to add
@Kevintu28
@Kevintu28 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man it’s hard to find the full fight
@joe56984
@joe56984 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad you found it and enjoyed it!
@Kevintu28
@Kevintu28 6 жыл бұрын
joe56984 yea I really appreciate it hard to find film in its entirety today usually edited or people don’t care anymore
@robotboy719
@robotboy719 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevintu28 The fight went 15 rounds so this isn't the 'full' fight. But I bet it's as much of it as exists.
@spicybrown3
@spicybrown3 5 жыл бұрын
Even back in 1910 people didn’t take the time to set the time & date on their video recorders
@chriso1585
@chriso1585 3 жыл бұрын
I've been collecting fights for decades and never seen the full film of this, thanks
@ltakethefatlplease.3380
@ltakethefatlplease.3380 3 жыл бұрын
I hope this doesn't get taken down. Love this Bout, one of my favs.
@joe56984
@joe56984 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, me too. I believe it is now part of the public domain, so there shouldn't be any copyright issues. I don't make any money off of it, just wanted to have it out there for all of those interested in this event.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
@@joe56984 You might be right.
@stevetatten9422
@stevetatten9422 Жыл бұрын
You could always watch Fury vs Wilder.
@Lava1964
@Lava1964 Жыл бұрын
Simple arithmetic says this can't be the full fight if the clip is only 27 minutes long.
@mider-spanman5577
@mider-spanman5577 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is quite a find! Thank you!
@tommywulfric9768
@tommywulfric9768 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful bit of footage from over 112 years ago. Was this the first heavyweight "superfight", I wonder? It was certainly billed and promoted as such, with the consequences of unrest running deep. As Jeffries had retired undefeated as heavyweight champion 1904, his eventual comeback meant that he actually resumed his reign as linear champion until this, his only loss, handed Johnson that accolade. After Jeffries' retirement back in 1904, there was a period of vacancy up until the following year, when Jeffries himself referred the fight between Marvin Hart and Jack Root to decide the next heavyweight champion. Hart had already beaten Jack Johnson that year to earn the chance and also to avenge Root's previous win over him three years earlier. Hart knocked Root out in 12 rounds to win the vacant title that had been vacated by the man holding his arm up. Hart subsequently lost the title the following year in 1906 to Canadian Tommy Burns who avoided Johnson for a couple of years around the World, with multiple defences, until he caught up with him in Sydney, Australia, in 1908. Johnson convincingly beat Burns for the title, the first time a black man had been given the chance...and win the World Heavyweight title. As a consequence, due to the racial attitudes of the time, a newspaper article on the fight started a nationwide campaign to lure the 300lbs James J. Jeffies out of retirement from his alfalfa farm as a White Hope to rightfully restore the title where other whites had failed. The newspaper articled finished with the desire for Jeffries " to emerge from his alfalfa farm and remove the golden smile from Jack Johnson's face", adding the famous slogan, "Jeff, it's up to you!"
@joe56984
@joe56984 Жыл бұрын
It was a MASSIVE fight, that had more social impact than anything having to do with the actual heavyweight boxing ranks. Jeff was way out of shape, even though he managed to lose the weight. He took what was an incredible payday.
@godswilllaks1530
@godswilllaks1530 4 жыл бұрын
This generation was cursed . God bless JJ and may he rest at ease
@tommyvette969
@tommyvette969 2 жыл бұрын
They begged jimmy to fight he didn't want to fight no nigga over a hundred degrees inactive for three years .incredible
@billdrumming
@billdrumming 4 жыл бұрын
I love how 5 guys help him up after getting knocked out
@headthfc
@headthfc 4 жыл бұрын
I know, embarrassing. Also as soon as the fight ended a man in a black suit and white hat jumps into the ring to confront Johnson, getting right in his face and pushing him back to his corner as the ring gets more crowded. It looks like he was stopping him from speaking to Jeffries.
@billdrumming
@billdrumming 4 жыл бұрын
Ben H interesting, I’ll look at that
@sherrillraymond7595
@sherrillraymond7595 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr lol lol lol
@richardbrazzel242
@richardbrazzel242 2 жыл бұрын
@@headthfc it was probably Jim Corbett, he was one of the more vocal ones in clamoring for Jeffries to come out of a six year retirement.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
What's embarrassing? Was it embarrassing when Johnson had to have help getting up after Jess Willard flattened his ass?
@patrickp6676
@patrickp6676 3 жыл бұрын
Jack was a happy go fellow with balls of steel. He didn’t gave a fuck. A real hero.
@HankFinkle11
@HankFinkle11 5 ай бұрын
Yes, a wife beating, whore chasing hero. (?).
@Stoney.Lonesome66
@Stoney.Lonesome66 3 жыл бұрын
If only we could hear this shit. Would be crazy
@Section5_CdnIntelService
@Section5_CdnIntelService 3 жыл бұрын
Johnson was a genuine two-fisted fighter and he knew Jeff's only real weapon was his left hook. He hardly bothers to guard Jeff's right. No way could even a prime Jeffries beat this version of Jack Johnson who was bigger and stronger and quicker than him.
@sherrillraymond7595
@sherrillraymond7595 3 жыл бұрын
That's why he didn't want to fight him
@HankFinkle11
@HankFinkle11 2 жыл бұрын
Quicker? Yes. Bigger and stronger? No.
@cjmeadors
@cjmeadors 2 жыл бұрын
What's interesting about the left hook, is how Johnson kept twisting Jefferies' left hand behind his back throughout the fight. I think this served 2 purposes: One, to demoralize Jefferies, and two, to tire that arm out.
@zwebb7327
@zwebb7327 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jeffries said something along those lines that he couldn't have beaten him if he had 1,000 years to prepare
@Section5_CdnIntelService
@Section5_CdnIntelService 2 жыл бұрын
@@zwebb7327 That's why Jeff didn't have even one tune-up fight before the fight with Johnson. Everyone around him knew he was just a shell of himself.
@robertg305
@robertg305 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that coming off a 6 year lay off, Jeffries was the betting favorite. Don't think being past your prime was a thing that was understood at the time
@robotboy719
@robotboy719 4 жыл бұрын
Newspapers had whipped the public into a frenzy about Jeffries being 'The Great White Hope' who would regain the heavyweight championship for the good of (white) mankind. Even Jack London soiled himself editorializing about it: '‘One thing now remains. Jim Jeffries must emerge from his alfalfa farm and remove the golden smile from Jack Johnson’s face. Jeffries, it’s up to you! Jeffries, it’s up to you! The White Man must be rescued!’ People bet their bigotry, not their brains. Jeffries knew he didn't stand a chance but the pressure (and huge payday) dragged him into it. Even at his best, Jeffries would have struggled against a near-prime Johnson and he was definitely not at his best.
@TheGrun13
@TheGrun13 3 жыл бұрын
Racists are delusional.
@cheetoyeeto1232
@cheetoyeeto1232 3 жыл бұрын
@@robotboy719 prime jeffries was an actual monster of a human being.
@isrealhome2075
@isrealhome2075 3 жыл бұрын
This fight was about race he was the so called "great white hope" Jeffries only point was to prove that Whites were better than us.
@DrLeroyArch
@DrLeroyArch 2 жыл бұрын
It was understood, even by Jeffries, when the subject of fighting Johnson was first raised. There were such high hopes that Jeff would beat Johnson combined with a pro-Jeff media hype that got way out of control which caused common sense to take a holiday. Something similar happened when Ali beat Liston in their first fight. They were so sure that Ali would be put in his place that the odds went up to 8-1 for Sonny. Ali talked to much about his own skill that nobody believed that such a fighter could possibly be as good as he claimed. Nobody believed that as much as Liston, to hi great sorrow,
@adammelchert
@adammelchert 4 жыл бұрын
Jefferies is a badass in his own right, absorbing that beating. This is the best piece of sports footage I've ever seen. Jack could've been mobbed.
@twopartbiblestudies7477
@twopartbiblestudies7477 4 жыл бұрын
Yea , I think Jefferies was retired for 6 years and came out of it to challenge johnson. No fighter can win a title with that much rust . Jefferies pushed johnson back the whole fight stopped johnson from throwing a berunch of punches. I believe jefferies in his prime was good as johnson was for sure
@chuckcollins2349
@chuckcollins2349 2 жыл бұрын
@@twopartbiblestudies7477 Prime Jefferies vs Johnson would've been interesting.
@cjmeadors
@cjmeadors 2 жыл бұрын
If Johnson would've knocked him out early, they probably would've lynched him. The interesting thing about this fight, is that the crowd often couldn't see what was happening. A secret beating if you will. At first glance, it looks like 2 men pushing each other around the ring. The most boring fight you ever saw. But if you look closely, you'll see all these hard, sneaky uppercuts & short punches getting in there. A brilliant performance, considering Jack Johnson was not only fighting Jim Jefferies, but the angry crowd as well.
@kenneth7826
@kenneth7826 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjmeadors well written
@chuckcollins2349
@chuckcollins2349 2 жыл бұрын
Shame all the racist comments,I swear politics is ruining sports.
@user-vj3rg2jo9b
@user-vj3rg2jo9b 2 жыл бұрын
I love how before the neutral corner rule you could just hover over the guy you knocked down and hit him the instant he gets up lol
@Strawstarberry
@Strawstarberry 4 жыл бұрын
Congress passed an emergency ban on the transport of movie film after this fight to stop this particular recording from leaving the state it was filmed in.
@sherrillraymond7595
@sherrillraymond7595 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@grawakendream8980
@grawakendream8980 Жыл бұрын
4:38 definitely not the full fight but the regular amount of footage commonly available. the full fight encapsulating the 15 rounds with 1 minute breaks would have to run 59 mins and i don't think that's survived. or it's not publicly available anyway
@ShawnKeithley
@ShawnKeithley 6 ай бұрын
The late Jeff comastro told me there is the old timer in California who has this fight complete. He won't trade it to anyone. I assume the complete fight is one hour. I have been collecting fights since the year 2000. I have some rare fights like the liston vs Griffin amateur fight. I also have a fight from 1970 that Rahman Ali was in. I hope some day to get the Johnson vs Jeffries fight complete.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they fight cautiously? Do the math. 45 rounds of 3 minutes. Add a minute rest. 45 x 4 = 180 minutes! Potentially THREE hours of grappling in 100+ degrees! Good GAWD! 👄
@kenstelziggy
@kenstelziggy 5 жыл бұрын
20 minutes of fighting? Fight went 15 rds, so missing about 25 minutes or 8 rds, wonder what happened to the film of the rest of the fight.
@HZGamingVR
@HZGamingVR 5 жыл бұрын
The Camera Man fell asleep cuz of how boring this fight is I am sure... LMAO!!
@magmavision2000
@magmavision2000 5 жыл бұрын
Probably was thrown in the trash. Or they ran out of film.
@esunsalmista
@esunsalmista 4 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this also because right away I knew it couldn’t be the complete fight. Still appreciate any boxing content this old being on KZbin, but it isn’t the complete fight.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
I have it.
@joegoats170
@joegoats170 2 жыл бұрын
Jack Johnson Jimmy J Jeffries the Fight of the J's
@therubberbandman3008
@therubberbandman3008 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a wrestle/clinch match
@Zeitgeist997
@Zeitgeist997 3 жыл бұрын
That was the innovation of Jack. He was about winning and didn't care if he was called a coward who wouldn't fight. Put being black on top of that. If he was white he would be called a coward who's not fighting but he brought that science to the sport. Who knows what he would have been with modern training but his approach to break it down to a science and have real strategy is why he was a great heavy weight in that era. Obviously his abilities ans skills there will not make him a threat to elite modern fighters but like I said, who knows what he would be with modern training
@conor9345
@conor9345 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zeitgeist997 facts imagine if he lifted weights and people didn’t eat as much back then
@Zeitgeist997
@Zeitgeist997 3 жыл бұрын
@@conor9345 yeah, you're 100% right. The scientific knowledge of the body has improved so much and with it being so much money in prize fighting that science has been fully incorporated so he would terror in a modern sense. It's the innovation and inner passion to overcome that makes champions special and that spark in him would be successful in any era
@ishatype2764
@ishatype2764 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zeitgeist997 Actually, Johnson was pretty smart about diet and exercise. He did use light weight training, not like today's fighters, but used resistance exercise such as sawing logs and chopping wood. And lots of road work. He said he always started his day with a large glass of water to get his body awakened. I also read he ate huge amounts of food, especially chicken. So, resistance exercise, endurance exercise, hydration, lean protein - pretty smart.
@HankFinkle11
@HankFinkle11 2 жыл бұрын
@@ishatype2764 well if todays fat arse heavyweights lift weights, you sure can’t tell.
@ahmedidi8347
@ahmedidi8347 2 жыл бұрын
I really love watching this old films unforgotten
@beeteep60
@beeteep60 6 жыл бұрын
I got the full fight too plus some before stuff before the fight too on a dvd
@TheG55coffia
@TheG55coffia 5 жыл бұрын
Do U have any pre fight sparring of Jeff & Corbett? There was a video called 'Johnson training 2' that is no longer on KZbin that had some stuff that wasn't seen. Its no longer on tho?
@bryanpayne3793
@bryanpayne3793 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheG55coffia it has a sparring session with Jim Jefferies and Joe choynski & it has film of John l. Sullivan too
@TheG55coffia
@TheG55coffia 5 жыл бұрын
Yes that's the one. It had John L. hitting a speed bag. Do U know where that is now?@@bryanpayne3793
@bryanpayne3793
@bryanpayne3793 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheG55coffia the speed bag ?
@TheG55coffia
@TheG55coffia 5 жыл бұрын
Yes He was at the Jeff-Johnson fight as a reporter and hit a speed bag a few times.@@bryanpayne3793
@lonzofinley7860
@lonzofinley7860 2 жыл бұрын
No sound to video
@johnoreilly7899
@johnoreilly7899 4 жыл бұрын
If only they had met a few years earlier .
@justliving94
@justliving94 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you could record back then
@sherrillraymond7595
@sherrillraymond7595 3 жыл бұрын
Me either
@johnmolinari2384
@johnmolinari2384 3 жыл бұрын
It was filmed, same as movies.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
I was there. With my iPhone.
@jamescowan3651
@jamescowan3651 2 жыл бұрын
Jeffries had no chance. A 6 yr layoff. JS
@julieseddon-v2s
@julieseddon-v2s 21 күн бұрын
was also an audition for come dancing, autumn 1910
@michaelcobb7097
@michaelcobb7097 4 жыл бұрын
Eventful first round! Referees would never allow prolonged clinches like that now.
@grawakendream8980
@grawakendream8980 2 жыл бұрын
They agreed to work out of clinches in the contract. Jeffries people had that included especially because they felt Jeffrey good Mall Johnson inside. They were obviously mistaken about that
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 2 жыл бұрын
@@grawakendream8980 no body could beat Jeffries in the clenches in his prime. He was reputably one of the strongest boxers alive in his hay day. Someone should have had the foresight to realize that wasn’t the case 6 years after retiring..
@grawakendream8980
@grawakendream8980 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ditka-89 no one could beat him so long as he fought smaller, older, white fighters sharkey, corbett, fitzsimmons
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 2 жыл бұрын
@@grawakendream8980 he beat black fighters in his youth
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
@@grawakendream8980 Smaller older white fighters... Like Johnson fought.
@scriptsmith4081
@scriptsmith4081 4 жыл бұрын
This wasn't a prize fight- it was the earliest recording of an Arthur Murray dance class.
@bobhayett2376
@bobhayett2376 2 жыл бұрын
A Lawrence Welk tune accompanying this farce would be appropriate.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobhayett2376 You and scriptshit getting blackjacked and punted out of the arena would be more appropriate. #CoupleOfAsshats
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 8 ай бұрын
​@@bobhayett2376 You getting bitch-slapped by girl scouts selling cookies would be more appropriate. Dweeb.
@TheJeandario
@TheJeandario 2 жыл бұрын
Très, très GRAND Champion !!!
@jimclark6256
@jimclark6256 2 жыл бұрын
Jeffries came out of a 6 year retirement and was out of shape. Johnson probaly would have beaten Jeffries in his prime. It would have been a much better fight.
@zboys4586
@zboys4586 5 жыл бұрын
Was reading about the Klondike Gold Rush and discovered "Tex" Rickard a true American Icon. And that brought me here. Now I am gong to watch all the films from THE GREAT WHITE HOPE TO Unforgivable Blackness: The Rise and Fall of Jack Johnson (2004) The story of Jack Johnson, the first African-American Heavyweight boxing champion.
@JMA_21
@JMA_21 4 жыл бұрын
What’d you think about the unforgivable blackness if you’ve seen it already
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
Unforgivable Blackness is outstanding. Gerald Early, Stanley Crouch and James Earl Jones (my favorite single actor of all time) are all in it, and Keith David is a brilliant narrator.
@andrewr62
@andrewr62 5 жыл бұрын
Jeffries brought absolutely nothing in the ring with him that day. He hardly even looks like the same man who retired 6 years previously. In truth, tiny Tommy Burns put up a better fight than Jeffries.
@joe56984
@joe56984 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew * He was a shell of himself, 6 years out of the ring, he tried cutting over 100lbs in six months, and while he physically looked very similar to his prime, his body and muscles did not have the same power, speed, and reaction time that he had before.
@botfields_hardcoregamer6401
@botfields_hardcoregamer6401 5 жыл бұрын
Jack wouldve whooped him in his prime too
@botfields_hardcoregamer6401
@botfields_hardcoregamer6401 5 жыл бұрын
@@joe56984 jeffries said himself that he wouldve never beaten jack
@stampedmetalsword8099
@stampedmetalsword8099 4 жыл бұрын
@@joe56984 Jeffries ah bum. Lets be honest. Most heavyweight champs have been African American. Jeffries like a marathoner refusing to run against Kenyans. Guy's a bum, deal with it.
@superlucas010578
@superlucas010578 4 жыл бұрын
@@stampedmetalsword8099 The only bum in here is you, unable to achieve what those 2 legends did. You only troll on the internet without putting yourself at risk. Typical keyboard warrior and a loser !!!!! Jeffries would have killed you in 5 seconds
@andrewr62
@andrewr62 4 жыл бұрын
Not the "full figfht" but all that still exists on film,
@mjay776
@mjay776 5 жыл бұрын
So I guess back then the fighter does t have to go to the corner on a knockdown and can try to knock them down again as they're trying to get up LoL
@daveswart9267
@daveswart9267 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention people get to help you up? Lol what was the refs role back then?? Not much
@adam2eve
@adam2eve 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveswart9267 It's crazy knowing that the ref for this fight was the promoter. The President, yes POTUS, was originally asked, but turned down the offer. Crazy! Not really sure what the refs role was back then. And I'm pretty sure they didn't quite know either. Kind of learn as you go, if you know what I mean. There were no ref schools back then. I want to say their chief role was to make sure nobody dies. But, had it not been for Jeffries corner stepping in to stop the fight, it might have happened on that day.
@chadlpnemt
@chadlpnemt 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct, in those days you didn't have to go to a neutral corner. Jack Dempsey did this in his fight with Willard in 1919. Willard took a huge beating, and this came back to haunt Dempsey later on in his "long count" fight with Tunney as he didn't remember by then he was supposed to go to a neutral corner after a knockdown. So yes, per the rules in 1910, Johnson didn't have to do anything except wait until his opponent got up.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
Correct, matt.
@MrTrackman100
@MrTrackman100 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadlpnemt Yes. Dempsey would have won that Tunney fight, otherwise.
@CapAnson12345
@CapAnson12345 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot in those days you could bum rush your opponent right after he got up from being knocked down.
@acedibiase7038
@acedibiase7038 Жыл бұрын
James "The Grim Reaper" Roper vs "Irish" Terry Conklin
@juneaco3003
@juneaco3003 3 жыл бұрын
almost half of the fight was hugging
@justicerighteousness3105
@justicerighteousness3105 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not real big on boxing. But I do have a pretty good knowledge of boxing history. If Rocky Marciano had come out of retirement around 1960 as he said he thought of doing in an interview. He likely would have eventually fought Ali or Sonny Liston. If either one of them had defeated Marciano it probably would have been a repeat of the Jack Johnson Jim Jeffries fight. Maybe even some rioting would have resulted as it did after this contest.
@justicerighteousness3105
@justicerighteousness3105 Жыл бұрын
@@strandcast7743 The world had changed somewhat between 1910 and the early 1960's. Still rioting could have happen. Perhaps a few dedicated Marciano fans somewhere in the USA, maybe New York City would have attacked some blk folks or the blk community itself. And the whole thing could have escalated from there. Marciano was like the Babe Ruth of Boxing.
@justicerighteousness3105
@justicerighteousness3105 Жыл бұрын
It's a very probable scenario. What part you don't agree with?
@anthonybryant1969
@anthonybryant1969 2 жыл бұрын
James Jeffries was very tuff to take a beating and still keep standing because he was out on his feet since the 5th round.
@richardbrazzel242
@richardbrazzel242 2 жыл бұрын
He was goaded into fighting again. He had not excercise in six years and got fat. He should have known there was no way he could win. And I genuinely think towards the end of the fight, Johnson felt sorry for him. Right before it is stopped, Jack stops holds his gloves palm open and looks at the referee like, are you gonna stop this.
@richardbranton7396
@richardbranton7396 2 жыл бұрын
Jack carried him as he did most of his opponents unless they got cute
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardbrazzel242 i don’t know if he was doing it intentionally for this fight, but he frequently kept fights going longer so they could make a longer fight film
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardbranton7396 like the Stanley Ketchell fight
@richardbranton7396
@richardbranton7396 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardbrazzel242 same the same about Johnson willard,what do you think jack was doing all that time out of the country what state of mind he was in?
@Section5_CdnIntelService
@Section5_CdnIntelService 3 жыл бұрын
They spent most of the fight in a clinch plodding around the ring. Johnson was blocking Jeffries' left hand then uppercutting him with his right before forcing Jeffries' left arm behind his back to tire him. Jeffries landed a few solid punches, mostly to the body. In the 4th or 5th round he landed a big shot to Johnson's head only to get nailed by several hard shots himself. Tommy Burns put up a better fight than this.
@ReflectionOfPerfection
@ReflectionOfPerfection 2 жыл бұрын
Jeffries was also a shell of himself. He had been out of the ring for 6 years and had to lose 70 pounds to get in ring shape. Imagine if Floyd Mayweather were to make the big comeback next year against Jermell Charlo. It wouldn't end well for Money
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy Burns was an active champ at the time. Jeff was retired 6 years.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Shadow! YOU try fighting 45 rounds (3 HRs) in 100+ degree heat. Let's see how energetic you are!
@richardbrazzel242
@richardbrazzel242 2 жыл бұрын
People who had been involved in this sport, should have known better than to talk a man who had been retired for SIX years , doing no training, excercise, no tune up fights to see if the reflexes , hand speed, foot work were still there. It's ridiculous. Jeffries either believed the nonsense showered on him, which was foolish if he did. He knew he could not get in shape, or he just needed the money. From what I've read even Jeffries trainer said he could not win. John L Sullivan even Express doubt, causing Tex Rickard to explain to reporters, tell the old man to keep his mouth shut bor he can pay for his ticket. Johnson also commented that, Jeff can't fight nobody, I don't know what he's doing, he knows he can't get his natural trim back. Towards the end, he can be seen glancing at the referee , like are you going to stop this.
@joe56984
@joe56984 2 жыл бұрын
The ring rust alone would have been too much to overcome, but on top of all that Jeff had to drop a massive amount of weight. It wasn’t a recipe for success, but he did make a fortune from the fight.
@HankFinkle11
@HankFinkle11 2 жыл бұрын
He was paid $100K. That’s a ton of money in 1910. Who would turn that down?
@richardbranton7396
@richardbranton7396 2 жыл бұрын
He was beating up his sparring partners
@patrickfallon6192
@patrickfallon6192 3 ай бұрын
Jack Johnson has got to be in the top five greatest of all time
@rickrick5041
@rickrick5041 6 жыл бұрын
Please put in the sound with the referee instructions and everything. Why would they schedule one of the biggest fights in history for when it’s 110 degrees? It’s not a measure of ability but who can best withstand the heat like what happened to Sugar Ray Robinson
@mider-spanman5577
@mider-spanman5577 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think there was sound at that time.
@rickrick5041
@rickrick5041 6 жыл бұрын
@@mider-spanman5577 No door bells?
@1JacKaL1984
@1JacKaL1984 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO....You know there were some people in the crowd thinking..."This doesn't make any damn sense!!"
@RyanGXP
@RyanGXP 5 жыл бұрын
Boxers usually fight on scheduled dates. But hey maybe this all happened suddenly.
@CliffinAZ
@CliffinAZ 4 жыл бұрын
Rick rick, sound in movies didn’t exist yet in 1905. (Remember the silent films?)
@pinetree1616
@pinetree1616 5 жыл бұрын
It should be called a hugging match.
@majik_man
@majik_man 3 жыл бұрын
yup
@KhronicYouth
@KhronicYouth 4 жыл бұрын
jack johnson kept jeffries from falling so he could keep beating him as payback to all the racism he had endured from his camp
@chcknpie04
@chcknpie04 4 жыл бұрын
For real. Fuck racists.
@sherrillraymond7595
@sherrillraymond7595 Жыл бұрын
Right
@geoffm9944
@geoffm9944 2 жыл бұрын
Jefferies was too old and unfit to ever get into the ring with Johnson. Jefferies came out of retirement to fight Johnson - huge mistake.
@juanig4198
@juanig4198 3 жыл бұрын
bro , the other videos of this fight are flagged as inappropriate content,racist idiots still salty about it lmao,also 5 guys help the other to get up from a knockdown on a championship fight , that is just a sad display
@irenecheatom2601
@irenecheatom2601 Жыл бұрын
I feel like he got a little revenge in that fight. Did you see the way that man jumped in and called the fight? They should have known that man wasn’t going to be able to stand that HEAT!!!😂🤣😂😅😅😅😅
@ws9304
@ws9304 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly filmed back before potatoes were a thing
@audreywilborn2018
@audreywilborn2018 2 жыл бұрын
After the fight people ordering breakfast would say : " Make my coffee as black as Jack Johnson and my eggs as scrambled as James Jeffries ! "
@KelzKelz
@KelzKelz 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffries was on that hope list like Fury and Lomachenko
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
You're on the wait list for a brain transplant. 🧠
@johnsingleton393
@johnsingleton393 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@grawakendream8980
@grawakendream8980 2 жыл бұрын
none of jeff's techniques worked with johnson because johnson was superior to everyone jeff had faced imo
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
Because Jeffries was retired for six years.
@grawakendream8980
@grawakendream8980 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 if it was six years earlier, jeff just gets stopped faster
@sherrillraymond7595
@sherrillraymond7595 Жыл бұрын
@@grawakendream8980 right
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 8 ай бұрын
​@@sherrillraymond7595 You two should date. Right.
@HZGamingVR
@HZGamingVR 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't pay $3 to watch 2 dudes hug all fight. This is not even Boxing. Looks more like 2 Drunk dudes at the Bar at 3am... Hahahahahahaha!!
@calebhu6383
@calebhu6383 4 жыл бұрын
Even back then they said it wasn't a very good fight
@heartofbrowardcounty142
@heartofbrowardcounty142 3 жыл бұрын
This guy has a stance like Wilder
@stevetatten9422
@stevetatten9422 Жыл бұрын
Fury beats him too.
@jeffreyharris3887
@jeffreyharris3887 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post .Johnson ate Jeff alive
@jeffreyharris3887
@jeffreyharris3887 2 жыл бұрын
Ate
@jeffreyharris3887
@jeffreyharris3887 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks corrected now , slightly dislexic
@rankfrankfurtde91
@rankfrankfurtde91 Жыл бұрын
1910 a 2022 il y’a 112 ans boxe 🥊 1910
@patrickfallon6192
@patrickfallon6192 3 ай бұрын
We’ve come a long way 6:40
@kentgardner8836
@kentgardner8836 2 жыл бұрын
Slow dancin', swayin' to the music...
@goshlikkrudbahr5109
@goshlikkrudbahr5109 5 жыл бұрын
And here's Jack Johnson not only talking, but dancing… kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqTac4tpmKd-d7M
@ronsmac
@ronsmac 3 жыл бұрын
Different rules back then I guess. Much more clinching with no breaking by the referee.
@davidmccann9811
@davidmccann9811 2 жыл бұрын
Fighters had to pace themselves differently too, as fights were generally set for many more rounds than now. Sometimes the fight was to the finish with no set amount of rounds. Today a fighter can have a much higher work rate because they only have to go max 12 rounds.
@vidalsbrighi1652
@vidalsbrighi1652 5 жыл бұрын
Há mais de um século.Orra!,Wow!
@johnwest7463
@johnwest7463 3 жыл бұрын
Real men back then they weren't cry babies right now 12 pitiful little rounds now
@ricardodecastropeccini3758
@ricardodecastropeccini3758 Жыл бұрын
Here we go Stanley💋💋💋
@xx-uz2kz
@xx-uz2kz 2 жыл бұрын
Refund my 15 cents
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 8 ай бұрын
For what? Your tuition, shortbus? 😊😅😂🤓😆
@HankFinkle11
@HankFinkle11 Жыл бұрын
Horrible ref, letting Johnson hold and hit the entire fight.
@joe56984
@joe56984 Жыл бұрын
He was not very good. Tex Rickard was also the promoter for the fight, he wasn’t a real ref.
@Kyron95
@Kyron95 4 жыл бұрын
im here because of bobby lashley
@Harry_Spence
@Harry_Spence 3 жыл бұрын
why
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
Good. Go back.
@mitchellrogers9931
@mitchellrogers9931 4 жыл бұрын
I am related to James Jeffries somehow on my grandmothers side of the family.
@vancewilson9413
@vancewilson9413 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta be fkn kidding me
@Harry_Spence
@Harry_Spence 3 жыл бұрын
What
@vancewilson9413
@vancewilson9413 3 жыл бұрын
@@Harry_Spence you gotta be fkn kidding me
@Harry_Spence
@Harry_Spence 3 жыл бұрын
@@vancewilson9413 what do u mean
@vancewilson9413
@vancewilson9413 3 жыл бұрын
@@Harry_Spence I mean, it's gotta be real easy for VS, to knock out Jack Johnson and James Jeffries
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
@@vancewilson9413 < Putz.
@acedibiase7038
@acedibiase7038 Жыл бұрын
Jeffries was a 2 to 1 favorite lol
@sandrofm5738
@sandrofm5738 2 жыл бұрын
isso era que é um campeão.
@mider-spanman5577
@mider-spanman5577 5 жыл бұрын
Put 18:41 in ghost video!
@lordburlap4514
@lordburlap4514 4 жыл бұрын
Very strange.......very!
@neivaldoduarte4576
@neivaldoduarte4576 3 жыл бұрын
Jeffries já estava em fim de carreira... deve ter aceitado essa luta pela grana.
@JeffaHensley
@JeffaHensley 2 жыл бұрын
This needs considerable computer enhancement to be watchable.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 8 ай бұрын
You need a good old-fashioned country ass whipping.
@boxingyourbrainsout2206
@boxingyourbrainsout2206 4 жыл бұрын
Jim held on for long as he could 'literally'
@cjmeadors
@cjmeadors 2 жыл бұрын
Jack Johnson gives a master class on how to beat Jim Jefferies, a white national hero without starting a riot or getting the fight stopped by police. How did he do it? By lulling the audience to sleep with the most boring, technical fight you ever saw. By the time the knockout came, I think most people were simply grateful it didn't last 45-rounds. In other words, they wanted to riot, but everybody needed to go home and take a nap first. Riot didn't start until the next day. lol
@sherrillraymond7595
@sherrillraymond7595 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@MrMenefrego1
@MrMenefrego1 3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a boxing match, it was a dancing lesson!
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
You want your ass kicked? Keep it up! You'll get it, son. You little twerp.
@MrMenefrego1
@MrMenefrego1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 OH NO, IT'S THE COMMENT SECTION BULLY, EVERYONE! RUN!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMenefrego1 👈👺 Not everyone. JustYou, FukFace.
@MrMenefrego1
@MrMenefrego1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 HAHAHA! You're hilarious, thanks for the laugh, tough guy! Do you really think you're scaring anyone? Now, go back to your mama's basement, smoke some crack, and pretend you're a rough hombre, loser!
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMenefrego1 You don't smoke crack. You lick crack.
@stevetatten9422
@stevetatten9422 Жыл бұрын
Tyson Fury beats them both.
@Boxingsmart
@Boxingsmart 4 ай бұрын
Tyson fury got knocked out by an mma guy and got knocked down 8 times before by other guys
@parryplatypus8630
@parryplatypus8630 5 жыл бұрын
lmao I couldnt even understand what was going on, I just saw a bunch of men wearing hats
@michaelcobb7097
@michaelcobb7097 4 жыл бұрын
What if two guys lost their hats and only one was found. How would they know which one's it was--they are all alike!
@thetriumphofthethrill2457
@thetriumphofthethrill2457 4 жыл бұрын
A marvel of historical preservation. The closest to a time machine. Johnson was the more confident fighter and was rewarded accordingly. Jeffries looked scared, unsure of himself and his stamina was poor. One can see the disappointment on the faces of the audience at the result - history was made and it was the dawn of black dominance of the sport.
@wandalandowska3237
@wandalandowska3237 Жыл бұрын
Clueless.
@clintmorris2357
@clintmorris2357 3 жыл бұрын
Tex Rickard refereed (never before or after, thankfully) and paid to build that stadium. Johnson was better no question about it in this fight. From all footage available on Jeffries the champion, was faster & stronger of course And Johnson IS in his prime in this fight. But they never would have met both at there best only had jeffries stayed champ and they met no sooner then 1907. Which would of happened, no way Hart, Squire or Burns beat Jeffries. I believe Jeffries would of eventually fought Johnson. But it didn't happen that way so just another example of the disappointing history of the Heavyweight Title. I know what Jeffries said after their fight, it was Respect. Just as Johnson after losing to Willard. Jeffries & Johnson were unwilling to defend their titles against Black opponents. Lots of he said he said about these 2 on all their fight videos. Don't kid yourself Johnson was not in his Prime when Jeffries retired Champion, Don't agree? Then how would anyone consider a fighter who lost 3 and drew 6 a #1 contender?
@mgoogleuser8011
@mgoogleuser8011 3 жыл бұрын
all this holding, i'd knock either of these guys out in a round or less
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
You get bitch-slapped by girl scouts selling cookies.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
The 'm' must stand for moron.
@mgoogleuser8011
@mgoogleuser8011 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 bullshit, these guys are slow. Dont hate
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
@@mgoogleuser8011 Yep. M = Moron.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 8 ай бұрын
​@@mgoogleuser8011 You're slower, shortbus.
@victordevonshire807
@victordevonshire807 2 жыл бұрын
Insane fight. Today Jeffries would have been disqualified in the first round.
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@victordevonshire807
@victordevonshire807 2 жыл бұрын
I've just checked that first round again and I got it wrong. I thought that Jeffries
@victordevonshire807
@victordevonshire807 2 жыл бұрын
Oops was spoiling when in fact it was Johnson who was holding. Difficult style for Both of them.
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 2 жыл бұрын
@@victordevonshire807 they agreed in the contract to let them work out of the clinches without interference from the ref. Totally different sport back then
@trio1202
@trio1202 4 жыл бұрын
James will for ever be the greatest boxer
@CliffinAZ
@CliffinAZ 4 жыл бұрын
xxxYuriU_U xxx, he got beaten soundly here though, and ended up throwing in the towel rather than risking getting knocked out. But of course he wasn’t even close here to what he had been when he was younger. The interesting thing, as someone else mentioned, was that neither of these boxers was really in their prime during this fight. James was past his, and Johnson hadn’t reached his yet. To get a prime fight with these two, you’d need to pit James from a few years earlier-before he retired-with Johnson a few years later. I’m guessing that (purely hypothetical) fight would have been more exciting than what we see here.
@DubyaDaLastRepugPrez
@DubyaDaLastRepugPrez 3 жыл бұрын
Jeffries stated after the fight that he didn't think he would have ever been able to beat Johnson, even when he was in his prime. By all accounts, Jeffries was an extremely good fighter in his prime. Some boxing writers believe Jeffries was better than Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
Trio... All three of you are clueless.
@DrLeroyArch
@DrLeroyArch 2 жыл бұрын
@@CliffinAZ Johnson was past his prime as well. Remember, he was 32 years old in Reno. That is 5-8 years past a boxer's prime. Of course, he never too 6 years off of training so he was much "younger" from a training standpoint.
@mthokozisimasondo2909
@mthokozisimasondo2909 2 жыл бұрын
Jack Johnson was certainly the greatest of all heavyweights to win the world title. He did not only fight a man from the opposite corner as it seemed that almost everyone there was against him. He carried his opponents dishing out a humiliating beatings coupled with racial insults rubbing salts in whiteman wounds by winning against their expectations. That makes him most courageous and the greatest in my mind's eye. (2022.01.30-05:38-socalled South Africa)
@Reachgaming-qf7jq
@Reachgaming-qf7jq 5 жыл бұрын
All Johnson fight are like this to much holding Jefferies was to far gone old a prime Jefferies would have broke through those cinches and scored a late ko
@joe56984
@joe56984 5 жыл бұрын
Reachgaming 1215 Most definitely. I don’t know what would have happened between Johnson and a prime Jeffries, but he most definitely was a shell of himself in this fight. Too inactive and he was weight drained.
@Reachgaming-qf7jq
@Reachgaming-qf7jq 5 жыл бұрын
Jack Johnson said that Jefferies was the greatest come on 6years and over a hundred pounds and still went 15 rounds in 110 heat in his prime he. Wood have worn Johnson down
@mider-spanman5577
@mider-spanman5577 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff avoided Johnson for 6 years. It's his own fault and his age shouldn't be used as an excuse either considering that him and Johnson were around the same age. Jack Johnson was just a better boxer as most reporters even back then realized.
@TheNYgolfer
@TheNYgolfer 5 жыл бұрын
@Mighty WhiteJeffries said "I could never have whipped Johnson at my best. I couldn't have hit him. No, I couldn't have reached him in 1,000 years." He also said " "I am going into this fight for the sole purpose of proving that a white man is better than a Negro". Hardly the words of a non racist. Jeffries was 23-1-2-1 during his 15 year career. That's 1 1/2 fights a year. Hardly a record of "the greatest of all time". Johnson had over 100 fights in a career that spanned 40 YEARS! Fighting into his 60's and winning more than he lost at that age. When They fought Jeffries was 35 years old and Johnson was 33.
@bryanpayne3793
@bryanpayne3793 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNYgolfer I doubt Jeffries ever said that. He did offer to fight Johnson back when he was active but Johnson turn them down it wasn't so much Jeffries not wanting to fight him but it was a manager's not doing it because are they are racism not Jeffries
@AEZaubermann
@AEZaubermann 3 жыл бұрын
The last time a whiteman had hope against a black athlete in a non winter sport!
@ishatype2764
@ishatype2764 3 жыл бұрын
Ever hear of a guy named Rocky Marciano?
@jovidutful
@jovidutful 3 жыл бұрын
Fury, canelo
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 жыл бұрын
Jack Sharkey beat Harry Wills. Shove it, painter.
@TheG55coffia
@TheG55coffia 9 ай бұрын
Last time a Black man had a chance against a white man in a math test was in the days of a dinosaur.
@ograwdeal
@ograwdeal 4 жыл бұрын
Worse fight i ever saw in my life. Holding and dancing for 20 seconds at a time was sickning. I love Jack but this was a joke! I hope the fans demanded their fifty cents back.
@sherrillraymond7595
@sherrillraymond7595 3 жыл бұрын
It's 1910 what kind of fight were you looking for
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 жыл бұрын
I wish your school would demand their diploma back, og. They got a raw deal.
@victorevanssr.5034
@victorevanssr.5034 2 жыл бұрын
And you guys say that Ali is the greatest. I doubt it
@albertovillacurbello5255
@albertovillacurbello5255 Жыл бұрын
Pero estos están peleando o bailando?
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