Jack Rose - Cross the North Fork

recorded at Plays and Players, Philadelphia, March 22, 2009
from The Things That We Used to Do: Solos & Duets for Six- and 12-String Guitar, Lap Steel, and Banjo
Strange Attractors Audio House, 2010
Thanks to Dustin Hurt, Bowerbird

[@AlejandroFolk]

Everytime i watch this video, i like it even more than the last time.

[@aumoccbei3197]

as good as anything Fahey ever did, but Jack was also starting to get out of his (impossible) shadow over American guitar music too. Such a huge loss but so grateful to have this, beautiful sound & sense of rhythm and space.

[@hybridanimal2087]

My favorite guitarist ever, the blues raag master.

[@tornasukiii745]

Used to watch Jack play at Brick Bat Books thanks for the video. R.I.P. Jack!

[@SeanFisher]

I got the pleasure of seeing him live sometime in Seattle, maybe in 2007. Thanks for posting this. Mesmerizing.

[@matthewgeary1972]

I saw him play at the First Unitarian Church in Philly with Sunn 0))) when I was 13. I had no idea who he was but I was blown away. I rediscovered him in my 20's and remembered that I saw him years prior. It was also at that same Sunn show I was asking my self "Where is the drum set?" when Sunn was playing.

[@samkoopmann8833]

He was playing with Sunn 0)))?

[@matthewgeary1972]

@@samkoopmann8833 He was on the same show. Played before them. He didn't collaborate with them during their set.

[@basedbuddha777]

Holy shit best show ever. Seen SunnO)))... Jack was dead before I could see him. RIP.

[@KCBarr1]

Jack Rose's biggest critic was, well, Jack Rose. This guy IMO, is in the same cloud as John Fahey, Leo Kottke and all the other primitive guitar players.

[@eno8759]

Read an interview that Jack disliked Leo Kottke, guess he was also a critic of others and a purist. What’s an opinion anyway he?

[@will3475]

@@eno8759 Is this true?? I love both of them tbh

[@caden8592]

Couldn't agree more. Jack Rose is outstanding.

[@blakecox499]

@@will3475 Fahey infamously grilled Kottke in multiple interviews as a highly skilled technical player but lacking in the "primitive" (free)form that Fahey, Basho, Rose, Charlie Nothing and others pursued. I think Kottke is outstanding, but have heard many different notable guitarists echo similar sentiments. John was the tortured veteran artist, Leo the young commercial prodigy...

[@jackparsons1513]

Can NOT believe he's no longer among us. .

[@danielalexandermclachlanga3781]

Tha music of Jack is eternal

[@kataritenabelasciscix9823]

corde che toccano come carezze l'anima

[@MrJbold25]

a new Jack Rose vid? lit

[@SingleMalt77005]

Thanks so much for sharing this

[@twistswitch]

I never consider this style of playing ‘primitive’. This is true sophistication.

[@ConcreteJungleSickness]

I know what you mean but calling it American Sophisticated doesn't have nearly as good of a ring as American Primitive. Lol.

[@oddsocks2428]

@@ConcreteJungleSickness Primitive was actually coined by Fahey, but in an interview he said he was never trying to label a genre - he was comparing the style to that of primitive painters, meaning untrained.

[@lilguy7491]

@@oddsocks2428 I think the word was "untutored". It's definitely much more representative than "untrained".

[@victorockedal5798]

Primitivism as an art movement isn't about making primitive art. It's about making art that evokes feelings of primitive emotion and experience

[@twistswitch]

@@victorockedal5798 I get complex and deep emotional experiences with this....he's kind of New Age to me at least on a lot of his recordings.

[@jackparsons1513]

!!!!!!

[@kataritenabelasciscix9823]

shhhhhh ears Flying

[@rafael55]

Open C Minor: CGCGCD

[@brunodias5581]

Alek "é Jack Rose?"

[@tezzo00s]

é jack rose?

[@BrBIGSIZEBR]

ALEK DISSE É JACK ROSE ?? 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@melindalemmon2149]

What happened to Jack?

[@foxdie1013]

What kind of guitar is that? It's so lush that I would have thought it was played on a 12.

[@Louvet56]

it looks like a Taylor but I am not sure

[@KCBarr1]

@@Louvet56 It's a Taylor.

[@KCBarr1]

Taylor.

[@chadsutter9507]

It's a Taylor 510 (spruce/mahogany). He changed the pcikguard but you can see the shadow from the old one below his new one. I too felt like the guitar sounds about as lush as a 12 string.

[@Louvet56]

any idea about the tuning ?

[@darrenwastestime]

open c minor, I believe

[@abryant9166]

Open B flat minor

[@danielsherrill]

C G C G C Eb (lo - hi)

[@sidneywillis640]

Hi, anyone knows the tuning Jack rose is playing?

[@jasnikvdb3581]

I think this one's in Open C minor (CGCGCE♭), the harmonic he plays at the end of the piece sounds like that at least. And it's also in the C minor scale ;)

[@sidneywillis640]

@@jasnikvdb3581 thanks a lot!

[@polkad3v]

I would need to hear more, but this just sounds like he's checking his guitar is in tune.

[@rykwon4535]

I don’t think you need to hear anymore, you’re clearly deaf.

[@danielalexandermclachlanga3781]

He's " checking " if You are soul conscious

[@alexv3266]

Rose's tone and playing was great, but totally derivative of Basho and Fahey, but he got away with it because he was the first big fish in a very small pond of players who came out of the indie experimental music scene. Glenn Jones, Sean Smith, James Blackshaw, among others were far more accomplished in terms of actual songwriting. As was Charlie Schmidt, whose record was totally overlooked because he wasn't cool in that scene, though he really nailed it.

[@hilliphant98]

🤦‍♂️ all music is derivative. Comments like this are the epitome of why it’s next to impossible to make a living as a musician. Stop making it about who is better than who and just support good art, a category to which all these musicians belong.

[@hilliphant98]

@@mmarcouxjason6504 because he frequently booked himself with experimental acts to an audience who seldom had context of the genre or of artists like Fahey or Basho, who at the time had faded some into posthumous obscurity. While some hold him in such a high regard others seem hell bent on devaluing the art Rose made by labeling him as a copyist. My point still stands just support good art and stop the bickering.

[@starvationpool9982]

@@hilliphant98 I mean experimental scenes typically at least in Texas my state, are not centered around acoustic guitar. It’s almost entirely electronics so the expectation that any of those types would even know Fahey or Basho is slim to none.

[@BroadcastsFromPoorFarm]

You left this same comment on Discogs almost 10 years ago, and I'll say what I thought when I read it at the time. There was no "small pond," the first wave of players in that neo-scene of the early to mid 00's was bigger than the amount of interest and people playing this stuff currently. There is a reason why he stood out then and continues to stand out now.