Jack Sparrow vs. Will Turner: A Perfect Pirate Fight

This is the tale of Captain Jack Sparrow, and his fight with Will Turner in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl.
It's one of my favourite movie fights, and I'm going to tell you why. #stagecombat #fightanalysis #moviefights

[@MrShootgun13]

"Jack isn't as clever as he thinks" and one thing I'd add to that is "But still more clever than others think" which is, in my opinion, key to his character

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Just like the dialogue shows: "You have to be the worst Pirate I've ever heard of!" "Yes, but you HAVE *heard* of me!"

[@andreagriffiths3512]

And quite possibly why he is so good at what he does.

[@jimstoesz3878]

*EXACTLY!*

[@logandarklighter]

[Jack is about to light a cannon that's pointed at the mast] Lord Cutler Beckett: "You're mad!" Jack Sparrow: "Thank goodness for that, 'cause if I wasn't this would probably never work!" [fires the cannon, which catapults him onto his ship, landing safely on his feet behind his crew] Jack Sparrow: "And that was without even a single drop of rum!"

[@MrsAnnThropy]

@@logandarklighter the PRECISE moment that encompasses all that he is as an entire character, especially the tiny figure of the commodore. shining moment

[@defiante1]

One extra bit, Jack's eyes when he sees the poker. He is afraid of it far more than a sword because he has been branded with the pirate mark. He knows very well what it feels like to have red hot iron pressed against his skin and you see that when he stares at the end of the poker wide eyed lol

[@FallenOne669]

I always thought Jack was just surprised that Will grabbed something no one would expect to use in a sword duel. Your theory is fantastic.

[@defiante1]

@@FallenOne669 Well thank you, very kind of you to say!

[@Lucas-zk2vy]

You're overthinking it, of course his face expression is going to change in front of the risk of being burned + stabbed...

[@Mamenber]

@@Lucas-zk2vy It's quite dull so it wouldn't really cut him or pierce his skin, and while it would be quite painful and leave a nasty scar, he'd be in no danger of blood loss.

[@MrHamboneBro]

@@Mamenber When I'm afraid or frantic, I think I worry more about pain in the moment versus long term blood loss. You must be a mightier pirate than I am

[@tyrant-den884]

Another interesting I only now realized is this scene is probably some of the first respect Will has received from another man in a long time, certainly the first we see in the movie.

[@johnbeauvais3159]

What an interesting point. The rigid social class system would have kept him firmly in a place without envy and having everyone he works for look down their noses at him. Even the governor doesn’t compliment his work. Jack represents someone who can appreciate his talent and is outside that social class where a person’s attributes and skills are far more valuable than their last name, except of course Will’s last name ends up being valuable in its own right but yeah.

[@MyAltdraco]

That is an interesting point; I never thought of it that way before. But yes, he could have been taken aback simply from the polite request when he is used to be given orders or completely being disregarded.

[@Shindai]

That's a fun observation I haven't considered before. Witty banter and repartee from the off, of course they were gonna be friends eventually lol we really get a sense of chemistry. There's a spark *points to the bit of Will fighting with the poker sparking against Jack's blade* between them immediately and a sense of mutual admiration, I think each secretly envies the other, to a degree, Jack envies Will's stability and not being wanted by the law, Will envies Jack's freedom and lack of moral ambiguity that makes him so resourceful. A real "whole being greater than the some of its parts" situation :)

[@kabobawsome]

It well sets up Will's turn to piracy later. The one man who ever gave him an ounce of respect and acknowledgement? A pirate who was (seemingly) fighting to kill him. And immediately after winning the fight and capturing the pirate? His master gets the credit. It makes sense.

[@hedgehog3180]

@@johnbeauvais3159 But importantly his last name actually turns out to be dangerous to him so he basically has to reject the rigid social structure.

[@DissectingThoughts]

What I love the most about Pirates of the Caribbean fights is that they're almost never about people whose main goal is to kill each other. Sure, when they fight, killing the opponent would probably be one way to achieve their goal, but they always have some other goal than killing the opponent. In this fight Jack is trying to escape and Will is trying to stop him from escaping. In other fights in the films the goals become weirder and often there are multiple people each with their own unique goal, but the goals make the fights more interesting, because it shifts the focus from just a bunch of people being violent at each other to a bunch of people all trying to Do Something if only these Other People would stop Getting in the Way. The fighting isn't the point in itself. It's just what happens when a lot of people are trying to accomplish mutually incompatible things at the same time. Seems like a simple thing, but in a lot of films fights are just fights; people trying to hurt each other.

[@jasonblalock4429]

Agreed. And, in general, one of the things I enjoy about the POTC series at a whole is its emphasis on motivation. The movies are constantly establishing not just what people are doing, but *why* they're doing it. Yeah, by #3 the motivations have gotten twisty to the point of self-parody, but it's so rare for blockbuster-style movies to focus on character motivation at all that it really gives the Pirates movies a very unique vibe. . Plus I love that scene on the beach in #2 where the two pirate lackeys are struggling to decipher the movie's plot. Great lampshading.

[@EvilFookaire]

An excellent example is that fight between Jack, Will and Norrington on that giant wheel in one of the later movies. All three having their own motivations, and a fluidity that permits them to switch targets as soon as one of them tells another something that the other wasn't aware of.

[@DissectingThoughts]

@@EvilFookaire Yes, I was very much thinking of that fight.

[@salvadortoscano2534]

Also, swords were primarily used for self defense, especially when there are other, more deadly weapons (GUNS) that are not as reliable for defense. The fighting is also the good guys defending themselves so they can be *alive* to achieve their goals, and getting out of the fight alive is the most important thing in *any* fight.

[@Shrooblord]

The capitalisation made this read like a TVTropes article, and I laughed. Thanks x) Also, good points!

[@maxs9062]

And a few seconds before he gets KO’d Jack says “This shot was not meant for you.” Which tell’s me he might have some morals despite being a pirate but it also tells me he might have a vendetta, which we find out later he did.

[@devinspencer1678]

It was a great example of Checkov's Gun. Pun intended.

[@HighShamanMoses]

well to be fair the only reason jack is a "pirate" and owes those 100 souls to davy jones is because he freed slaves. He is a horrible pirate but a 'good' man

[@dracocrusher]

Right, yeah, because Barbosa just left him the one for himself.

[@jdprettynails]

@@HighShamanMoses Yep....especially if we pretend Salazar's Revenge didn't happen.

[@robertwalker5794]

jdprettynails Which I try to at all costs.

[@WyldeTripKY]

The pirate taking advantage of the good lad's "lawful good" tendency is something I never even considered. I mean I did consider it on a very minimal level. Pirates cheat and take advantage of those that dont but I never put it into the thought of "lawful good". I love that you pointed that out.

[@FaeChangeling]

What I love is the contrast between Will having plenty of practice in a safe environment and Jack having real world combat experience. Will does things by the book while Jack does whatever he can to survive and that's what eventually wins him the fight. But you'll also notice that Will gradually realises the tone of the fight and adapts to it; at first he's only moving forward and back, but then he starts moving side to side, and by the end of the fight he's using all the verticality he has and moving all around the environment but at every step it's lead by Jack doing the same and Will copying it, and Will comes out of it a better fighter as a result.

[@vanzetti1927]

"Balance could be an issue for him" omg, brb dying.

[@adsfornothing3146]

what is with this scene at the end of the 3rd movie? he stands on this thing (in german it is called rah) and fights davy jones. in a giant ma.lstrom

[@PortCharmers]

@@adsfornothing3146 it's called a yard. It's logical that a pirate has more balance issues on dry land, or when the rum is gone (again).

[@charliebradlyn5313]

Honestly it’s because he spends so much time rocking on a boat that when he’s on land, he sways like a drunk because he’s so used to countering the ship. (or, you know, he is drunk cause hey it’s Jack)

[@andreagriffiths3512]

@@charliebradlyn5313 you’re right! It takes a while to get your sea-legs but what few realise is, is that it takes just as much time to get your land-legs back again…also not helped if you’re suddenly caught sober with no rum to hand.

[@eanna3781]

Just to let you know, the powder that Jack cover will with is sand. Blacksmiths of the time would it to quickly smother a fire if a spark from the forge ignite some straw. Also count another subscriber among your ranks! It was a very well done video with a nice flow that I found quite fascinating! Loved it!

[@KRJayster]

For extra fun, according to the commentary, for the safety of the actors and crew - especially Orlando Bloon who was getting a face full of it, the "sand" is actually chocolate powder. XD

[@timrosswood4259]

@@KRJayster That was already said in the video.

[@bibbobella]

Im actually shocked it wasn't sand..Like..looking at it now it makes sense that it is coco powder but never saw it as anything but sand.

[@elliotsmith9812]

Sans seems unlikely. It seems like blacksmiths are always adding some sort of flux to their creations which has a consistency more like chocolate.

[@alamramirezruiz8862]

I always thinked it suppose to be iron oxide

[@radiationcookie3541]

10:37 balance would be an issue, probably because he spends all of his time on board a ship, so he may have permanent "sea legs" so to speak, and therefore balance on dry land and, by extension, fighting, would be more difficult.

[@EnjoyCocaColaLight]

Only for a few days.

[@cloroker2058]

Let's be real here: although sea legs are a factor, this is Capt. Jack Sparrow. In this, and every other scene, he is drunk as fuck.

[@stinkynoodles8312]

@@cloroker2058 that's true, that's true

[@cloudysky9248]

Look, he's a pirate, sea legs or not he will either be permanently trying to sea balance or be drunk. The ocean is an unpredictable place, I'm surprised he doesn't wobble more

[@ericfleming5522]

Believe it or not, you eventually get used to the transition. Or at least I did, but I've also never experienced sea sickness, so maybe my inner ear is just weirdly agnostic to my environment. Delighted that this conversation took a turn from one of my favorite movie scenes to one of my favorite hobbies.

[@austinhelm2474]

In the blacksmithing world, there is something called flux. It is used by welders as well, in order to help bond steel together. The powder thrown at him was a kind of flux used in blacksmithing, most notably when folding iron or attaching pieces to each other. The cross piece for example.

[@ThePhobicSuperior]

I also love the little moment right before the fight begins. Will is standing there with perfect form and posture, the textbook duelist, while Jack bends his knees and plays with his sword... you can tell that Jack has fought a lot and loves doing it, while Will is, as always, perfectly proper and correct. Brilliant moments in this fight scene.

[@TheQuietCottage]

"his human corkscrew of a personality" 😂😂

[@Fotoschiki]

"Theatrical violence, the art of pretending to hurt people" You hooked me after 20 seconds.

[@TheJackOfFools]

Your analysis of the Flirty Zorro fight was on my feed yesterday. Today I got this. Both were great, and now I'm subbed!

[@MsShySkye]

Here from CinemaWins!!!

[@Shrooblord]

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[@highroller5335]

I wanna know what the analytics are since that wins video because this just popped up in my reccomend feed

[@edu-kt]

IMO Pirates of the Caribbean without Jonny Deep will be a total failure, and by the way, I would love to be wrong on this.

[@Site_42]

A wonderful fight, and an equally wonderful analysis. Brava!

[@afilthycasualplays4007]

I'll be honest, I always thought the reason Will looked confused at the end of the fight, was because he saw his master sneaking up on Jack. I like your interpretation better.

[@AH-ut3rz]

I've never met a youtuber that makes me want to pound the like button on every single video until I found this channel, so well done.

[@hughbarton5743]

More, please!!! It calls me back to when I was A swordplayer...no good anymore...too old.... Thank you so much, swordwomen!

[@theknightsofnee3327]

'we have Jack, we have Will, and we have...' Me: 'she forgot the donkey'

[@jasonking3466]

I agree. This is probably one of the best fight scenes ever recorded.

[@dragonmaid1360]

Beautifully set up proposition and then exposition. Lovely.

[@timothydavidcurp]

You do a remarkable job in your videos - you combine passion, knowledge and the gifts of a natural teacher, and do all of that while being funny and winsome. Thank you for helping my daughters and I to see some of the movies we love better.

[@timothydavidcurp]

ps - saw your "Is Susan a Problem?" vid as well and it was very smart. You have a sense of history and literary analysis and can convey your views on those just as well as you discuss theatrical violence. So again, brava!

[@JillBearup]

Thank you 😊

[@christinaclark9754]

This is one of my favorite fights in the movies. One thing I love though is comparing how will fights here verse how he fights at the end. We get to really see how his character evolves over the movie.

[@ABStuff]

I just discovered your channel and this is the 4th video in a row that I watch non-stop. Very interesting stuff and very engaging style of narration.

[@Namaersige]

I found your channel after a splendid comment of yours at Bernadette Banner's. I cannot stress enough how happy I am to find an inspirational fellow swordswoman here. I'll be sticking around to benefit from your advice and reflect upon my own practice!

[@wanderlustwarrior]

I'm not even a huge fan of this film, but your analysis was so good that I subscribed right away.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

If it helps your channel grow at all, I just remembered how I came to your channel. It was actually after another youtuber (Antoine Bandele) had a video on the top fight scenes in ATLA. So while I was looking for more videos on ATLA, I saw your video on the Last Agni Kai, then this one, then your one on Nightcrawler's teleportation scenes in X-Men 2.

[@whyme777x]

If I had to guess, I'd say the cocoa powder might've meant to be very fine silica sand. I don't know much about blacksmithing, but I know a little about welding, which is probably something a blacksmith would need to do. In the earliest days of welding, fine silica sand was used as a flux to help the welding process. The smith would bring the iron/steel to just below the welding temperature, and a thin iron-oxide (rust) layer would form, which prevents the metals from welding together. But then you sprinkle some silica sand over it, and it bonds with the iron-oxide to make fayalite, which melts away at just below welding temperature to reveal the fresh iron metal underneath the rust. Given where the source of the powder was located (right next to/above the forge) and how long the feed tube was (long enough to reach the forge mouth), I'd say the tube is filled from a funnel above with silica sand, which is why it just keeps pouring out. That's my guess, anyway.

[@etherealtb6021]

Yes! As an old movie big sitting in the theatre, I was like, "OMG! This fight is Errol Flynn and Tyrone Power ramped up"!

[@IsakGIR]

I agree completely! I watch this scene occasionally just because it is so fun!

[@adamthethird4753]

The 'cocoa powder' is sand. Helps with certain aspects of smithing as well as allows you to quickly douse a fire if needed.

[@ObaREX]

I love every minute of this

[@TheAdvertisement]

“No jokes please.”

[@Dargesh890]

I absolutely love your insight and commentary! I always love fight breakdowns, and I am glad to have found a channel I enjoy!

[@kevinnaber790]

I love how they developed the set and used it. The cocoa powder was from Jack disconnecting what appears to be the bellows which would have dust and soot in it, or it could be a rarely used version of a sand blaster used to clean blades which given that they have a mule or donkey and huge gears as well makes it possible that the shop could have been using a more elaborate means of cleaning a blade.

[@jonathananonymouse7685]

Beautiful analysis! Thank you!

[@hefas842]

Small detail fixing. The heated piece of metal Will is using as a weapon isn't a fire poker, but (in massive lack of understanding how forging works) a sword. that is made clear when looking at it. The "sword" has a guard, handle and pommel securely attached, that is both a) a mistake because no novice let alone a master smith wouldn't attach those until the blade is complete b) point towards it not being a poker because no one would put so much effort into a poker. 6:33 you can see the "sword" sticking up from the forge (Again a MASSIVE mistake since it would cause the metal to bend and warp the blade).

[@hobgoblinuk5100]

Wonderful insights. It seems that I like a lot of the same fights you do. But I didn't know why. I just knew they were fun. Watched the Inigo Wesley vid earlier and it is obvious why it is fun but you showed why it is so perfect. I loved this fight already now i love it even more because i understand it so much more. Thank you.

[@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023]

great video, you are very eloquent :) with this video I discovered myself an admirer of "theatrical violence", a term I didn't even know existed. I love animations and movies in general that present fights for character development, like Kakashi's training in Naruto or most of the fights in Avatar. Tarantino makes good fights too (Kill Bill is probably my favorite movie of all time). anyway I can't wait to see your other videos! greets from Brazil

[@Antimonium]

1:36 Jack Sparrow by the Lonely Island playing in the background, hat's off

[@CaptainJackSparrowed]

⚓ Loved your take on this scene and the all of your insights into the film and characters as well! 🙏 Thank you.

[@phortech8642]

Thanks CinemaWins for the channel recommendation. Well worth coming here

[@jenniferbaldini3527]

Fun fact, dont forget to look for Legolas...I mean Orlando's 'Lord of the Rings' tattoo on his inner wrist during the sword fight. It's written in Tengwar and means '9' (the number of those joined in the fellowship).

[@Cycoticchaos]

I enjoy this one as well and it reminds me of a different version of the Princess Bride sword fight which I love as well. Both having realistic footwork and attacks/defenses with some extra special film flare (parallel bars/cart launch to beams) .

[@DoubleAgent25]

I loved this video. Great work.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

The only thing that probably adds more layer to Captain Jack Sparrow's character than that opening is one simple quote in the third movie which unfortunately was in a deleted scene; "People aren't cargo, mate." It's not necessarily the fact that Jack has some respect for human life, but more that he's a man who LOVES freedom. Few things represent freedom better than your own ship and the open sea. It makes sense that Jack would be unaprooving, even disgusted, by the idea of slavery.

[@thesoupin8or673]

Wasn't there a deleted scene from the first movie that explained that he refused to transport slaves for the EIC or something, so Norrigton (or maybe someone else, I don't remember) captured him and that's how he got the pirate brand? I thought I remembered that bit of lore

[@kinnundo6434]

How has it taken me so long to find this channel omg love this!!!

[@johncressmanci]

I appreciate your commentary and your observation about Jack. I think that's one of the reasons I still enjoy the first one but not so much the others. It's that inner conflict within Jack we see so much of in the first movie but so little in the subsequent and (final?) movie. I feels like they were just going after money after the first one with no real character development.

[@fluffypinkpandas]

When he said "this bullet is not meant for you" i think he was trying to get a shot at the locked door.

[@Abitheartist]

Oh this is why this franchise was my first fandom

[@kylefrank638]

More people should know the brilliance of this scene.

[@Smowir]

guuurl i see you with the lonely island's jack sparrow playing in the background

[@lesliemoiseauthor]

Thanks for your analysis. I'm an author and it gets on my last nerve when there's a big set piece in a movie that does nothing to move character and story forward. Also callbacks. "We don't have to be creative! We can just do what we did last time, only bigger!"

[@jaquanbrown413]

Playing that beautiful kh3 pirates music

[@andytyrrell2569]

Up there with Dredd Pirate Roberts and Inigo in Princess Bride

[@MidnightSt]

(About Jack) He's not as clever as he thinks he is... But... he's more clever than everyone else thinks he is.

[@allieactress9539]

I really liked this video, to me, this is the fight that is most memorable in the pirates franchise. Was that the kh3 pirates world soundtrack playing in the bg? 🤩

[@QueerChangling]

More pirates break downs? I love it and I feel like there a lot of cool thing to learn from the wildly verifying attempts at good fights!

[@JillBearup]

You're (partially) in luck: second movie Jack vs. Will vs. Norrington fight is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3ysm4Orbr9osLM

[@PriyaGupta-fc9yf]

Catptain Jack Sparrow is by far one of my favorite movie characters and The Pirates of the Caribbean series is in my top five of movie series’

[@rachaelzegalia2426]

The “coco powder” might be clay/dirt for casting the guards for swords. I also could have been leftovers from building the workshop and the reason it was in the rafters was because it wasn’t being used.

[@scottbraun2457]

The dirty looking stuff was sawdust. Dispite many things missed, we are in a master blacksmith's shop..that has it's own mills..for wood working. The dust easily gets into the ballows for the forge..the opposite of a vacuum basically.

[@TheGreatCigma]

I believe Bob Anderson worked on this fight, (along with The Prince's Bride, LotR, Highlander, Zoro, and the original Star Wars trilogy to name a few). I was really hoping I'd get work with him one day, being an aspiring swordsman myself, but he passed away.

[@johnnemesh5459]

When this movie came out, I was DEEPLY skeptical. Turn a Disney RIDE into a feature film?? Madness! And yet, that 1st film was pure magic! This scene, in particular, being one of the most enjoyable swordfights since The Princess Bride. I wish I could heap as much praise on it's sequels...alas.

[@ericspratling9252]

Hey, this is terrific, can't believe I hadn't heard of your channel before now! I actually have a blog on a similar theme, GradingFightScenes.com (mostly abandoned now). But if this video is any indication, you seem to approach the subject with more expertise and care than I generally tended to. And yours is in video format rather than text, which is definitely more fitting. Just subscribed and bookmarked a bunch of your older content. Looking forward to more!

[@KickyFut]

A -great,- no... *fantastic* analysis of a very competently choreographed swordfight!😁👍 I was skeptical at first, but it really is a good example of movie swordfights! Just one tiny thing... Please clean your glasses! It was super distracting! Thank you for this video!

[@MasterCrafterFish]

I believe the powder was supposed to represent "Flux" which is a powder some times thrown on hot metals before you cut and bend them back onto themselves. I'm not too clear on the purpose but it might be for helping remove impurities in the metals.

[@chicknorton8839]

Great video, but regarding the part with the pistol, we find, even in that scene, that "shot was not meant for" Will. That's the pistol Jack was deserted with by Barbosa, and Jack is holding onto it as his weapon choice for revenge. He doesn't want to shoot Will because that bullet has Barbosa's name on it.

[@SnakPak]

This is a good video. Subscribed

[@AdmiralStoicRum]

You can tell some folks in the crew like the princess bride

[@kookieman2227]

Are you seriously using KH3 Pirates of the Caribbean Theme for this vid. Your a bloody genius

[@royalnavywasp7735]

10:49 I believe the coco powder was ment to be sand as sand is used in a method in blacksmithing called casting

[@mymartianhome]

For pure fun I have to say I prefer the three way fight between Jack, Will and Norrington in Dead man's chest.

[@gidelstarwind]

Would love to see you break down the sword fights from 2011's Three Musketeers.

[@OutOfPrintGM]

One of my favourite sword fights is the cliff top dual from princess bride

[@ashaide]

That sounds like an exciting exam.

[@orppranator5230]

Using TheLonelyIsland as background music was a really good idea.

[@niekw3793]

That was really interesting and entertaining :)

[@Minrow56]

I would love to see a break down of the final duel from Rob Roy

[@samsignorelli]

Have you done the Rathbone/Power fight from 1940s "The Mark of Zorro?" all time fave stage combat fight.

[@PaulGuy]

What makes the first Pirates films so good, and especially Jack Sparrow in it, is that Jack _isn't_ the main character. His story is just connected to that of the main story, that of Elizabeth Swann and Will Turner. He's basically plot-relevant comic relief. Depp was just too good at it, so Disney bumped him up to the main event.

[@marquisealexander1371]

Jack is the definition of lucky devil-may-care trickster character.

[@johnny_gh0st590]

1:46 Was that a bit of Lonely Island in the background, or am I crazy?

[@lugialover09]

It was.

[@paulbalfe3160]

"You cheated!" "Pirate!"

[@Cybrludite]

"You cheated!" "Pirate."

[@chriskrause6280]

Always dig some good fight breakdowns! Have you done any of Bill Hobbes fights? The storytelling he has in many of his sequences is always top notch. And I love how messy he lets his fights get. They’re never pretty, in the best way.

[@92Reptil]

Pretty sure the reason Jack didn't shoot Will at the end wasn't just because he had a conscious but also because, as Jack said it, the shot wasn't meant for him. It was meant for Barbossa, the man that betrayed him, stole his ship, and marooned him on a deserted island to die, with that exact pistol, just case he just wanted to just end it before he died from starvation or death.

[@melliedoucette4525]

Awesome video.

[@Chromwel-A]

Man, that bgm, lol.

[@joem1480]

Please do an analysis of The Princess Bride sword fight

[@rabidsamfan]

Oh, man now I am wondering if you have ever seen The Court Jester.

[@warriormaiden9829]

Lol, I'd LOVE to see her do a video on that movie! XD

[@bomblessdodongo3093]

10:48 It could be Smithing Flux maybe? Or an equivalent? Flux is used to make sure that when impurities rise to the surface of hot steel they don’t liquefy, but I’m unsure if they would’ve used that in the 18th Century. Plus modern Flux is usually white, and that was distinctly brown.

[@WTFBugs-df2dq]

Thanks

[@feigekatarina5745]

"cocoa powder? I know that's what they actually used, but I'm rather clueless about what it's meant to represent." Sand? I could see sand being valuable in some way to the blacksmiths process. I don't know, I'm not a blacksmith, but that's my best guess.

[@user-zh4vo1kw1z]

There is something else that is interesting about Jack's sword: it has clearly been used. and though it is old and beaten, it is also clearly cared for. This tells you several things about his character: 1: he cares for things, beyond the mere utility of them. 2: he knows how to fight in a verrrry serious manner: not for show, not for points, not for honour. But to live. So he isn't going to fight fair. Compare that to Will's sword: fine piece of craftsmanship, aesthetically pleasing. But it's comparing a Landrover to a Lamborghini: unless the competition in speed and flash, there is only one winner. This is comparible to how Will handles his sword at FIRST: skilled, but not... practical? Reminds me of two quotes: "You are like a sportscar, you are so fast [...] But I am like a tractor: I am strong and I am fit" And, paraphrasing cuz I can't find the real quote: He learned to use a sword with friends, using wobly sticks with soft knobs on the end. Whereas Vimes had learnt it in the street, from people trying to make him not live...

[@user-zh4vo1kw1z]

@Sigurd Shvedov very glad you got that one. I do HEMA and there are moments it bugs me we have knobs on the end of our training swords, this reference is a constant presence in my mind. Then there are the rare moments I hold a well made sharp sword and I am both sad it is not mine, and glad we train with those knobs... But the gist of the reference is something that is incorporated in the mindset of our troupe: formal style is all good and well, but if your stance allows a swift knee to the wobblies it is very wrong... And you'd be a poor martial artist not to use those openings in a contest...

[@user-zh4vo1kw1z]

@Sigurd Shvedov oh, often is is also about the other holding a sharpie... We train for control, but that takes time and experience. especially if you don't know how a sharp sword or knife handles. And in a sport where the blunt force tactic is popular.... Let me put it like this: last time I trained outside my own group was the first time in years someone really managed to piss me off. First time ever I got genuinely pissed off during sparring. That was when they found out I wasn't slow and overly carefull. That the fact that I had more experience in longsword than their trainer actually counted for something. Especially as they were a group where my mate had outgrown them all with only two years practice. I don't want someone like that to come at me with a sharp sword. What I want is something like you see with Roland Warzecha: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2bHlGape6Z9jc0 that is true beauty in fighting.... Only with someone you truely know and trust could you do that at that speed.

[@edwinjusto5739]

One tiny flaw in your analysis jack doesn’t just shoot will with that pistol cuz as he said “that bullet is not meant for him” thats the pistol barbosa left him to kill himself when he was left in the island and therefore its meant specifically for barbosa which is what ultimately happens

[@davidcooper7811]

Crap! I already liked this. Why can't I like things more than once?

[@nateharder2286]

Yes it is just that good!!!

[@glitch1820]

Remember kids: you don't buckle your swash...you swash your buckler. :)

[@hbpinnock]

You should do Peter Pan vs Captain Hook in Hook (1991)!