What is the best EUC in 2023? / Master Pro vs V13 vs EX30 vs Sherman-S vs Master vs S22 vs T4

[@official.electricdreams]

I do realize that I could make this information more factual rather than based off of feeling. Please let me know what tests you'd like to see and for what purpose?

[@jgray1308]

If you happen to have any tour data from EUC World or Darkness Bot from your day at the track, would you mind sharing it?

[@DrawsACircle]

It will always be a personal evaluation, otherwise you can just pick the wheel based on the performance data.

[@nickt2072]

With all the differences in voltage and watt-hours, if you're riding an euc with an average of 10 MPH, you'll definitely going to get higher distance than going 40 MPH average. Is it took difficult to see if one wheel has a better distance at higher speeds than another? For example, on the Kingsong website, they claim that the S22 can go 200km. If I'm comparing that to the Begode Master Pro, which also says 200km, on paper they are the same. But I've seen videos of hard riding on the S22 only going 30-40 miles but the Master Pro going 70+ miles. Anyway, is it the Wh that gives the best indication of range?

[@scottsum1319]

@@nickt2072 All things being equal, wh is the dominant if not the only factor in range. Regardless of motor V

[@Blox117]

Bro you literally said the v13 is not the fastest. It is literally the fastest, objectively

[@philamonhemstreet8632]

This is probably the highest effort EUC content ever made. Thanks so much Jack!

[@official.electricdreams]

Thank you!

[@TurboGlenn]

Well said, totally agree!

[@romiansobieszczanski-paszt4238]

@@official.electricdreams Hi, which wheel for long hills? around 65% offroad and 35% roads. Is the master will be the good choice ? or mayby t4, sherman s ?

[@Randyphx]

100%

[@israeltantiangco9235]

I agree, real, raw.

[@360vroomers]

For those who are not familiar with EUCs, these represent over $20k worth of wheels!

[@official.electricdreams]

Time to sell!

[@patrickm2144]

@@official.electricdreams Personaly can't buy, but made me dream i've owned them all 1 day. thanks bro !

[@robslams2324]

To be fair though technically he probably wouldn’t need another vehicle like ever lol

[@master13fox]

@@360vroomers still, all of them so ugly. Sad how these wheels turn into

[@mr_wrongway]

You look a lot more lively in this video! Good job!

[@riandowright3542]

Dude… you did an excellent job. You are the first person I’ve seen to even have a EX30 to review on KZbin. I take that back. I saw two other videos, but one was in French, so I didn’t understand his review and the other was just worthless riding in a parking lot. Your comparison video has been unmatched at this time. I loved the FPV shots and how they integrated with the Insta360. I have an EX30 deposit down with Alien Rides and I’m constantly looking for reviews on KZbin. Thank you, great work.

[@official.electricdreams]

I appreciate that

[@hankVa13ncia]

Thank you. Finally a real comparison video. Its still going to be rider dependent, but this is how a real comparison video should look like. Not one that rides a certain wheel and comes to a conclusion about another from hear say. I couldn't agree more when you said " what you're going to use the wheel for". Great video Jack!

[@nickt2072]

Amazing video. For sure tons of effort went into making this, from getting on the track with no one else there to getting all the best wheels out there, to recording, to editing, to personal commentary and applicable critiques for each wheel. Sherman S keeps coming up as an incredible wheel with great specs and an amazing ride. This video has helped me turn my attention to it more. Thank you for the content and the hard work!

[@dewaynelowery8511]

First off, let me offer my apologies. You were completely right about the S22 and I was wrong. You talked about the S22 prior to it shipping and I thought you were kinda being a "hater". But I was wrong and your assessment was 100% on point. I returned mines because of continued issues and those "funny noises" you spoke about. So again, please accept my apology. This was an absolutely fantastic video Jack. Highly informative and I'm extremely grateful to you for spending your money on these wheels just so you can give us the real 411 (information) on these wheels prior to us spending our money. I've ordered the 3rd batch Sherman-S and you've made me feel a lot more comfortable with my decision. I've liked and subscribed to your channel. Thank you again for all you do for our EUC community.

[@Zetetic_Method]

I usually enjoy leaving negative comments on people's channels, but this is an exceptional video. Very informative and to the point without being boring and dry. Well done bloke

[@suberizedwrx]

From a viewer standpoint - great video clips - great audio selections. The music chosen for the Sherman S said it all, even before the impression at the end of the Sherman clip. I'm still debating an EUC and which EUC. I greatly appreciate this video! Keep it up ED!

[@official.electricdreams]

I appreciate you letting me know about the audio, wasn’t sure if people were gonna enjoy it.

[@Jrekt]

I just got a T4 decked with full grizzla fairings, flex pads and e-ride wolverine pedals. It’s my first wheel. Loving it, took to days to learn. Day 3 I was group riding. The EX30 is looking damn good though lol. Maybe my next wheel.

[@philamonhemstreet8632]

I do think that the tire is doing most of the work in putting the Sherman-S over the EX30 in cornering speed. Tires make a huge huge difference in all of these comparisons so putting the Sherman over the EX30 is dubious in my opinion. However, I think most people who buy these ultra-high performance wheels are going to switch tires, and most buyers also won't take race their wheel that often. So the fact that the Sherman-S is even in spitting distance of the EX30 is astonishing given the voltage difference.

[@TheCobaltsaber]

Agreed. You would feel equally as comfortable if you put your favorite tire on any of the other wheels. The ex30 with street tire would gain all that nimbleness of the sherman-s and possibly more with the lower battery boxes. The rest was a nice comparison, but the agility between the sherman-s and the rest of the knobby tires was a bit unfair imo

[@TechnoLogicPC]

Maaan this is sick! Never thought I'd be getting lap times for EUC's, but here it is. Very epic!

[@jgray1308]

I really appreciate the effort that went into producing this video. I hope that everyone that watches it subscribes to your channel to support you in bringing us more content. I have been waiting to see how the latest wheels perform on the track, and you have brought not just one wheel, but seven! I'm impressed that the EX30 had the best overall time and best single lap time without emitting a single beep! The Sherman-S turns out to be a dark horse - I had underestimated it. I'm really excited to see these wheels go head to head at the Amped Electric Games and Apple Valley Speedway this year! Thanks again for this first glimpse of what these wheels can do.

[@CarbonKid621]

Wow. Dont know I missed your channel but glad I found it and this video too. This is really top tier quality. So much information compacted and organized. Definitely helping me decide what wheel to choose after my Nikola AR+. I was fixated on the Master Pro, but now EX30 and Sherman S are the new front runners for me at least.

[@drbytes68]

Damn,.. LeaperKim scoring high again with their new wheel.

[@ostumbling]

Awsome job!!! This video gives people the real world comparisons we needed to see! Very surprised the 100 v. Sherman S held it's own against the beast ex-30!

[@ZeLucAgain]

Kudos for this nice comparison between the latest wheels. It was interesting to watch and a big up for the work it took to film, edit all these races and come up with some conclusions that will help people get a better overview of the pros and cons of these wheels. I don't agree on everything but i really appreciate your insight. Keep em coming !

[@YourAubsome]

Damn Jack you have some serious money to blow on EUCs 😅. Great video... but next time you might want to consider adding safety as one of your criteria... its something a lot of people care about... getting injured due to an unsafe device is never fun and I think most of us ride EUCs to have fun

[@CrossroadWater]

Excellent! Best EUC content I've seen in a LONG time. Thank you good sir : )

[@FinnBjerke]

You bloody well rule mate. I have had dreams about comparative reviews for a long time. Id never buy Begode but still its very important that you adress the psychology of buying stuff. We always compare imho, what is value for money for me and my needs? This video has Brilliant filming, great info, lots of relevant stuff here. Thx Jack, I wish I could meet you in real life one day. You do a lot of good for the EUC fans on the planet. You put a lot of work and money into this , thx buddy. Kudos and respect. PS: Ill prob wait for Inmotion V14, instead of buying T4 sounds sexy for my off roading needs. 16 inch suspension wheel...

[@BeginnerMoto]

I loved this video. I don’t have an EUC yet but I want to get one and this video helped me immensely. The Sherman S seems like the wheel for me. Thanks!

[@euc_sharkman]

Hey Jack! Always a big fan of your content. Thanks for putting this together and letting us know your thoughts on these. These wheels come out so quick and it’s hard to know the differences without videos like this. Admittedly, I am curious about the CP but EB needs to first get their operation in order before trying to release a product. Take care man!

[@NemoEUC]

Eevees and electric dreams elevating the community to a higher level

[@mylifemyheaven7126]

I have enjoyed your reviews..so honest and - definitely - insightful. Thanks and keep up the amazing works

[@stevemb0]

Excellent review. One EUC for every day of the week! I can just about do that with underpants but EUCs....I wish.

[@Monootto]

You should try street tires on the track. Much smoother, faster, and easier to turn. Great video!

[@markdbentz]

Great, detailed, comparative review. Its remarkable how well the Sherman S scored overall despite the individual strengths of all these wheels.

[@richsam287]

very cool you were able to get track time like that for this comparrison, great vid!

[@francostein5386]

Thanks for the effort. This is a great comparison video. The Sherman-s looks like a great wheel, but I have to wonder how something that heavy works in sand and gravel.

[@mrclickclickboom69]

REALLY effing good!

[@pedro-on-wheels]

Thanks for all the effort and money you put into the productions!

[@wheelydope]

This is such an excellent video. I feel like I have a much better idea of which wheels will be best for me this year. If only I could have them all. Keep it up Jack!

[@markjerstad4664]

Just what I've been looking for as I choose my 2nd wheel.

[@remigiusztwardy3962]

Great comparison. Such a video was missing on KZbin. I think you could film a part 2 with offroad driving.

[@mattca353]

I've seen the "that's what she said" you sneaked in there 😉. Looking forward to the Ex30/Sherman S showdown with the latter having higher speed unlocked. BTW, I'm glad you seem to have overcome your injury.

[@official.electricdreams]

On first watch? 🤫🤫

[@mattca353]

@@official.electricdreams Naughty you. Take one to spot one 🤣!

[@TheCobaltsaber]

You're comparing stock tires on all the wheels except the sherman-s. Having tried multiple wheels with aftermarket tires, the tire really does make the difference. I dont think calling the sherman-s more agile is a fair comparison as it has the shinko 244 tire installed. You would get the same result if you had done a tire swap on the ex30 or any of the other 20" wheels as well. I thought the s22 stock tire was alright, but the shinko on s22 made it super nimble and smooth carving edge to edge

[@TheGombo]

Great job Jack. Thanks for the massive effort you put into this vid. I have an s22 and a Sherman S. The Sherman S is soo good for cruising those curvy back country roads. S22 is a winner for off-road and agility because I think of the lighter weight. Big love to all the EUC riders out there!

[@sby1076]

Nice one Jack!, should compare them again when they are all having street tires ! :) I will bet that EX30 will come fastest and even in the corner!

[@official.electricdreams]

we might bring the Sherman s back to stock next time we are on the track

[@bulldogfpv206]

Nice work and thanks for the great content! Sherman S owner here, it’s a great wheel!

[@ohne_grenzen]

This is the best comparison video I've seen, brilliant. Thanks for the effort you put into producing this 👊🏾👊🏾

[@jumpyjigglesnort2232]

I own a Sherman S with 200 miles now. I love it. It's the first wheel I've tore down before riding and it's my 7th wheel. If you want a one-wheeled motorcycle with great suspension, speed, and power, I highly recommend this wheel. I keep watching the Sherman part of this video because everyone wants to find the worst aspect of every wheel and complain about it but what keeps us all riding is the pure thrill and feeling that nothing else can quite match and Jack taps into that, and yes I am a biased Sherman fanboy

[@roghaj]

Great job at making an objective review. Excellent review from an excellent rider.

[@abbasz1]

I never owned any of these nor I even saw it once in my country but I appreciate the effort you put into making this all in one review. Now i know what to look for in case i ever get the chance to buy one. Thank you

[@keithmurakata5359]

Probably the most information packed EUC COMPARISON video ( in modern times ) since the S20 release--also 🤔how many Sherman-S’s were sold from those “tears” LOL 😂

[@official.electricdreams]

The wheel is too good 😌

[@ScottishViking84]

Thank you for the informative video! I'm new to EUC, coming from many years of skateboarding and esk8, and this video definitely helped better form a decision of what direction I need to go.

[@official.electricdreams]

thanks for watching!

[@svenmaesalu6917]

Hei.. im also a esk8r, dnowboarder..boards of all kinds.. but instead of buying a new insane esk8..i was wondering maybe EUC is the new best thibg..would be interested in yr decision, background, skill lvl amd decision on the Euc :)

[@DangaWaT]

Hey man, i really appreciate your reviews. No nonsense, no bs, just straight to the point. Thanks a lot.

[@browpetj]

Great vid. I think this guy deserves those sponsors TBH!

[@official.electricdreams]

Thanks bro

[@kimpassey5618]

Video made me feel free and like I was watching heaven. Thank you very much I needed this

[@Funcentric]

Thank you. Good job. You covered a lot of points. It would be cool to see an intermediate sub $2,500 EUC video for 2024.

[@stephenj2014]

Someone said the V13 is basically a giant V11 and I can't unhear it now lol, sherman S is probably the best new wheel out there right now but sooo expensive and heavy, for general commuting/booting around the city I'd still recommend a V11 over anything else

[@1floatwheel]

JACK! YOU'RE THE MAN! WOW, THE ENTIRE LINE UP! AMAZING! Thanks so much for this vid!!!

[@ETAonTheEUC]

Really good review and video. Well done! Too bad the Commander Pro wasn't there to test, but you did mention how they simply didn't send it to you. The Sherman-S and the Commander Pro needs a video comparing them together. I think the Sherman-S is probably better all-around due to it's quality, but the Commander Pro is also an "all-around wheel" in my opinion with probably just as good or better performance, but from what we've seen so far poor build quality. If the 134 volt Commander Pro was not that voltage, the Sherman-S would be an easy choice for me. Considering my use case, my eyes are set on either the Sherman-S or the Commander Pro

[@4rocksteady440]

This is a fantastic analysis of all these wheels. I have, and love my V-12. You have convinced me of which wheel will be my ideal complimentary upgrade!

[@prayformywheels]

Great job bringing all the wheels together

[@Blackbird231...]

Pls do this again!! I would love to see you doing the same thing with more wheels. Absolutely awesome video!

[@MarkBondy-xu1io]

I'm already sold on buying the sherman s, thanks for the great video it really helped reassure my decision. Awesome video!

[@EverlastingEclipses]

To save some time for those who wants conclusion: yes. SS is the best wheel out of all.

[@EUCXR]

What a great video so much work was definitely put into this. Keep them coming!!

[@mdk42o74]

I get my ex30 Thursdays cant wait to start moding it :) it was so hard to pic a new wheel this time around because i want them all

[@dute007]

Should put a real world range mix/rush/conservative usage...

[@r6isbest836]

Dude you are a legend for buying all these and testing them! Never stop uploading dude!

[@ftsforever]

this is the highest quality content i have ever seen on EUC's, well done and thank you bro

[@Andrew-vt4jt]

Video was amazing! I need to come to China to visit.

[@jriding6161]

Killer review. Seriously, this is the best EUC review I've seen, hands down. Subscribed!!

[@spartacus3570]

Dang all these wheels and a track to ride them, you may need to change your name to electric wet dreams 🤣. Thanks for putting in the work fantastic video bro!

[@adel8841]

Great job ! thanks for the comparison we’ve been waiting for something like this for a while.

[@Jessejrod]

great comparison and power in agility. Nice work.

[@DonalRomano]

Best lineup ever.. Good review, maybe a little bit too much feel over fact but all in all excellent 👍

[@AvecPasdMains]

Very very good video Jack, very useful info, thank you so much. 👍 Jaleous that you managed to find a track that'd let you rip around it like that. 💯👟❤️

[@GiffysChannel]

It's hard to compare ride characteristics without all having the same tire since it's probably the biggest factor on how these wheels feel when maneuvering.

[@VllKlNG]

Good video. I think it would have been even better if you could list each wheel with a star rating per category for us visual learners. 👍😁

[@patc2515]

Dude thanks for this video. This is a comparison of all of the models im looking at and trying to choose between. Much appreciated! Subbed for sure!

[@Mpower31]

Just wanna say that I appreciate the effort that went into this video. But to be honest if you've been following the euc community for the last 6 months or less even it really doesn't tell you anything you didn't already know. I guess if you're really new into the community it suppose it could be semi helpful. I think doing Standardized real world tests like Eevees did in their recent video would be a lot more insightful. I was surprised tho to hear that the SS compares well to the Master in terms of power. I do have a friend who makes firmware for self balancing pevs and makes his own and he says that voltage by itself doesn't lead to more power so I guess that shouldn't surprise me.

[@mchowster88]

is that shinko 244 on the SS? if so how is the fitment and the ride compared to stock? thanks

[@randyelise]

Really great video and super helpful. Felt like a real unbiased review...like you weren't trying to apoease the company or product that let you review their wheel. I've been really looking at the Shermin S and I like its all around capability. I have a 16X that I LOVE. Just want better speed with shocks and decent maneuverability. Kudos

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

Nice tests! But you left one crucial detail from this comparison: The price. I don't think most people are willing to spend 4K on a single wheel... Even 3K is really a pain point for most people. And most of these are over 3K.

[@johngardner3441]

I hate when prices aren't revealed.

[@KettlebelJr]

You can find some that are refurbished or at lpwer prices

[@TheDownloader86]

Great video! I am really surprised that dimensions of these wheels are not that much different. Do you plan to campare also some non suspension wheels? I love my V12HT, I wonder if it has more power than T4 :D

[@robertmccall9773]

I was looking to replace my e-bike I'm an ex-rollerblader Street skater. I was looking to make it informed decision for City commute and longer trips has Sacramento's notorious for potholes in bad road conditions this is the most informative straightforward one I've seen yet just wish you included something on it on battery life or range of ride perfect presentation thank you

[@Clubkabuki]

Amazing video. I really like how you distinctly compared each one. I enjoyed watching your video.

[@kmg501]

Thank you and your team for all of your efforts.

[@arthurrobey7177]

I thank you for your effort. Being as-thick-as-brick, I could not choose. So I fed my criteria and price point into ChatGPT and it told me to get a KS 18. I am happy with this decision. I'm told it is boring. But boring is good. ChatGPT did not tell me what colour to buy, so I am still not out of the woods.

[@mrl33t]

Do keep in mind ChatGPT is limited to data (and thus also wheels) from 2021.

[@greenwave819]

Get an RS 19 over the KS18.

[@MichaelJamesNoggin]

Wow! So well done man! Nice work and thank you for the thorough testing and comparing each of these wheels. The amazing video production and time spent on this is crazy good!

[@DonFather]

great job guys. This detailed review was very helpful

[@scottsum1319]

Seems like a 7 part series squeezed super tight into 25 mins. Lots of personal involvement esp preferences rather than technical aspects. Would be better if the ShermS had its stock tire incomparo with others as we know, tires can make a world of difference. Some of BG wheels with a street tire on the track would have crushed ie.much better times on the ex30 & Master. Regardless based on the track times, tho fastest I would expect an equivalent jump in handling to rival the SS on a similar tire (we all know how the CST knobby perform on asphalt ie. not so good. Overall very nice comparo & thanks for the effort 👍

[@BladeStar420]

Excellent video. My choice is the V13. Speed is just one slice of the pie. V13 is the safest wheel with best waterproofing, smart balancing cells, cut-out free experience although that last one remains to be seen.

[@Jrekt]

V13 has had cut outs

[@BladeStar420]

@@Jrekt yeah it's very disappointing. I wish they had used 21700 cells. Now I will have to buy a new wheel when they inevitably upgrade

[@Jrekt]

@@BladeStar420 yea I’m getting a ex30

[@KettlebelJr]

​@@Jrektwhat's a cutout on e wheels?Im a rookie at all this

[@PCProphecy]

Thanks. Veteran Sherman S sounds like the best of the bunch.

[@Андрей-й7п2б]

Great! We need the same test but on offroad track !

[@skiddysm]

S22 is the best off road wheel because of the weight and suspension 🙌 on track its eh but on off road its the best

[@jb2814]

Massive Video. Wow man you are the Greatest!🎉❤

[@alainalv1700]

Thanks for this complete review and honest comparison

[@guirob01]

Wow what a nice review. I really like to see how the Sherman S is a well balance wheel. It will be my next wheel for sure

[@AKA_TY37]

Surprised Sherman S is fast in laptime. Tire def is a key factor.

[@maczilla7]

You make the Sherman S sound like a dream🎉🎉🎉

[@thelordsauron]

Loved it! Thanks so much for doing this. You can tell you all put in a ton of work in; nice job everyone! Did you end up making those fairings for the EX30 on your own or did you get any help with Grizzla with those? I hope they’re able to make their own relatively fast for these. I’m getting my EX30 in less than a month (hopefully) and I’m going to be itching to get my hands on some asap since it’s impossible to get anything to stick well on those battery packs. Might have to try and make my own set of fairings to hold me over until we have official ones with proper dimensions. Are yours plastic or aluminum? Couldn’t tell.

[@scalpelstreet444]

Thanks for your good comparaison, go on my Friend!

[@NathenHolzl-um2sh]

Thank you... if money is time and effort. Thanks for your time and your personal experience I deeply appreciate and respect your work thanks for sharing your wizdom. You got my vote👌👏👍

[@BigBoyElectricToys]

Nice content subbed! Thanks for the effort you put into this helping a ton with making my next purchase!

[@Cucumbersports]

This was the video I needed! Thank you ! Awesome video !

[@ronmontalvoo]

great , video. make a video Sherman Patton VS Sherman S , for sure it will be one of your most viewed videos. you have the two magnificent wheels.

[@XtianApi]

Doing this video without being given the devices is very impressive