Dragon Age 5 Hero Hinted At In Veilguard | Secret Conspiracy Board Analysis

[@VillianousKitty]

The only thing I hope for is that I don't have to wait another decade for the next game 😭😅😂

[@Allaiya.]

Same haha

[@beerexpert1057]

Holly shit right! They can just take the bones of this game and not change much. Keep the same gameplay, same combat, maybe new specializations. Do full party combat gameplay and hire better writers and make a better story with more decisions.

[@rayclay3249]

I wouldn't bet on it cause Bioware as a whole has now switched over to focus on the next mass effect so it should be a few years after ME comes out that we even get hints of DA5

[@sarahcline8488]

It took them 10 years because they kept having to ditch their scripts. They made 6 scripts the 6th one being the game.

[@angelicaeagles9627]

That is clearly a bow symbolising Leliana, who is connected to both the Hero of Ferelden as well as the Inquisitor

[@angelicaeagles9627]

And the reason it looks like a bird is bcs what was Leliana's nickname? Mockingbird

[@anderporascu5026]

@@angelicaeagles9627 Sister Nightingale, many titles and most of them referring to a bird.

[@CalamityCain]

Yeah, I'm also very sure about that as well!

[@lisdraconis2212]

I was thinking the same thing, but the purple thread continues to be conected with Rook as well which made me question that theory.

[@libbygreen420]

​@@lisdraconis2212that's assuming the dagger represents Rook and not Solas. I also came here to say the bow on top was Leliana. Also the next age would not be named by Morrigan, it's named by the Divine, and Leliana was a candidate for Divine in Inquisition

[@BasicallyFailing]

I think a more important thing to note is that the mystery person who may be the next protagonist is OFF the board which says to me this person will be from outside of thedas and it looks like their only connection will be Rook instead of any of the factions and figures who connect the past games. The more interesting implication is us finding the board during the game implies this person is already connected to Rook somehow.

[@dranzerjetli5126]

This game sucks ass so no one cares except who like this shit. Its a slap on the face of all the previous dragon age fans even the ones who like inquisition

[@baikos5900]

Ever since finishing my first playthrough I have been kind of depressed and feeling empty without anything to look forward to for now (after 10 years of waiting, which had become part of my personality tbh haha), but HELL YES, you don't disappoint. Thank you for some Dragon Age 5 clowning, nature is healing and I am me again !

[@vaeirin]

Same, it's such a weird and empty feeling. I think I'll need another few years for it to heal 😅

[@seriphim123]

Well said. This really captures my mood right now.

[@BigSexyWizard]

go play origins and that empty feeling goes away cause your playing a game that actually cares about its world.

[@Fantasygirl2001]

I don't really expect to see a dragon age 5 when technically veilgaurd pretty neatly tied up all the loose ends.

[@ivanhunter6492]

The moment Solas Killed Varric, I Sassed the Dread Wolf into the Fade

[@anderporascu5026]

@@ivanhunter6492 He's well past his time, this world belongs to the people of this time. Besides he never liked this version of Thedas or the world anyways.

[@Rhysdux]

What, you didn't kill him?

[@anderporascu5026]

@@Rhysdux I'm guessing you wanted to scramble the egg, not everyone will. Kai Leng like Royce (Simon Randall) I'd gladly kill a thousand fold, for me killing Solas is like killing Anakin Skywalker, sheeps in wolves clothing are less satisfying to end.

[@kourage_wolf8442]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that wall

[@galilea723]

Same

[@reffa2858]

I saw it but I never noticed the reference to origins or DA2. I did see the Inquisition symbol but I just thought it was just an Easter egg.

[@yfullman]

It's only been about 20 years since Origins so the HOF and Alistair still have 10 years before their Calling. Last we heard in Inquisition the HOF was looking into a way to stop the Calling. And we don't know how the Calling will work now since it's obvious it was the Elven Gods calling through their Archdemons. If there is another 10 year time skip I fully expect the Warden to return just in time

[@ultimatedespairgamer6722]

Lol there is zero chance we get an ultimate battle with returning characters, I’ll be suprised if the next game even has world states

[@XxW4RB0RNxX]

Solas killing Varric is why i made him a Permanente Fixture to the Veil

[@anderporascu5026]

If Solas' story is inspired by Richard the 3rd, it is a fitting end as Henry the 8th became Richard the 3rd's downfall before the play ended. Either way, Solas' story ends here and I daresay Mythal's has only begun. Thedas is her realm and she'll fight to the death for it.

[@tamarak.8800]

As the Inquisitor I could go redemption but as Rook, there is no way and I think it makes Rook a better character to not go for the good one.

[@patrykkatulski9238]

@@tamarak.8800yup😅 most of the game I was thinking about redeeming Solas, but after learning what he did to Varric I stabbed him

[@cracmar03]

@@anderporascu5026 I am more creeped out by Titans. Harding was downright creepy in Veilguard. And fate of Valta was also creepy. I half expect Renn to be lyrium-infused zombie ...

[@cracmar03]

@@tamarak.8800 dunno, my Rook like exchanging jabs with ... let me look at terminology by Davrin - ah yes there it is - "Baldy". I did redeem Solas. I owe that to Inquisitor and well Solas did helped us with both dalish slaves and how to kill Evanuris. It's just that he constantly tells half-truths and half-lies.

[@dacastardust]

What I want to know is: why are there TWO red threads connecting all previous games together, leading to the final image? Why not one single red thread? Why are there TWO? WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN? 🤔 oh, we tinfoilin'! Can't wait to spend the next however many years clowning and being insufferable about DA5. LET'S GOOOOOOO

[@gabbygirl9600]

Okay so here’s my thoughts on why there are two: They say something in the secret ending that makes me think they’re “reshaping” history. So what if the second string is how the original first timeline (that we haven’t seen) went? I feel like the time magic quest that happened with Dorian in inquisition has to be related to this somehow. 😅

[@dacastardust]

@gabbygirl9600 hmm interesting... alternate timelines/alternate events following the same path... this requires greater unpicking

[@GRIMHOOD99]

They are all caused by the previous, Ferelden blight directly casused Kirkwall which caused Inquisition which caused Veilguard which causes whatever the hell which if we take the secret cutscene into the account planned the betrayal at the start of the ferelden blight which caused everything after.

[@dacastardust]

@GRIMHOOD99 oh I know why they're all connected, I just want to know why there are TWO strings connecting each one. Why not one string, yknow? 👀

[@lisdraconis2212]

Hero plus romance maybe

[@MilkMan2486]

Maybe just maybe the new hero is a executor.

[@lisdraconis2212]

Imagine our new hero is the enemy of your former 4 heroes. Oooh the drama

[@chickenwn7]

I think if EA can let Bioware cook for the next one after seeing the success of BG3 they can go all the way for the next one, we saw in the art book that they had some fantastic ideas. Veilguard had some bad things but also good ones where we can see that bioware learned from the previous game but everybody is so stuck on the no choices matters from previous games and the dialogues on some scenes that they cant see the good qualities of this game (Not saying this is not important i agree on those). If Bioware is still around after Mass Effect and are still trying to do better, with all the critics on veilguard they are gonna try to use those to make it better. They proved that they listened to some comments from the previous game so im hoping that they'll do the same for the next one. I have some hopes but I guess we'll see with Mass Effect wich direction they are gonna take. 🖐

[@cracmar03]

They need to reimplement Keep. Veilguard is good game, but it suffered greatly whenever Keep was showing off. Nobody likes cameo when character in question acts like they have amnesia. And that's how I have felt towards Morrigan, Varric and Isabela. And it's just lost potential. Imagine if they let you choose who was left in the Fade, and if you left Hawke by end when Varric is revealed to be gone, he just heads out and you can see Hawke in background. It would be touching reunion of two friends finally. Veilguard theme was supposed to be 'regret' but neither Varric, nor Isabela, nor Morrigan are allowed to contribute to this theme to flesh it out, because Keep is not present. And endangering if not presumably killing Hawke would be the GREATEST regret Varric could ever have.

[@chickenwn7]

​@@cracmar03I agree there was so many good opportunities missed in this game...Even before the game got out the moment i learned that they would only keep 3 choices already made me ranked the game lesser than the other ones 😕 I immedietly thought it would feel more empty and I was sadly right...

[@gabbygirl9600]

I agree. I really think EA having oversight really kept the creatitivity to a minimum. The art books show how much potential the game had

[@elivenya-theautisticbookwy9638]

how are people supposed to overlock the lore butchering...it messes up the whole series beyond repair...

[@Elizzzzard]

Agreed! and hopefully they will have more time to actually cook properly. We waited 10 years for Veilguard but it didn't take them 10 years to make. What I mean by this is that most of those 10 years were spent making the live service game they originally had (thank the maker for the change). I read somewhere that the game we have now only had 3 years to make. So with a world like Dragon Age where there were SO many different decisions to make as well as lore to write, actors to hire, dialogue to write, and animate the many different potentials of people's world states....that definitely would take a lot longer than 3 years to do. Now that they have a clear idea of where they want the game's direction to be in (I hope), I have high hopes for the next game IF they are still standing after the next mass effect. (again I hope with every fiber of my being that they will be. The story is not done yet)

[@gamingstoriestheater]

I also feel like this is the perfect time to make up for the lack of keep in this one, that they are saving its return use for a big connected game with the way the executors are presented with each game and then once again this board also hints the whole connection. Just would make a lot of sense.

[@npc6254]

Are you actually serious man? The time to do the big connected game was now and BioWare screwed the pooch. Big time. Dragon Age is over unless purchased by a new studio.

[@Ariyala]

We're facing The Executors and The Devouring Storm next, if Bioware survives long enough to make another DragonnAge game.

[@dohvahkiin1177]

New Hero: “I’m Commander Shepherd, & this is my favourite store in Thedas….” 🤣👌🏼🇦🇺

[@DunhillWB]

Brother, there is not going to be a DA5 lol

[@lordofgingers]

I always pictured the core story ending not long before the end of the Dragon Age. And we are fast approaching the end of said age. Then the spin offs would be something else. Titles named after the age in which the game takes place.

[@beccangavin]

Yay! A Jackdaw tinfoil hat theory. I”m looking forward to the next game. I have zero expectations about what it will look like but there continues to be something I enjoy about every game in the franchise. If I could state preferences, I would like them to return to more mature themes and a darker tone. Honestly, though, I had assumed the lone figure off to the side was Rook.

[@anderporascu5026]

Hopefully the Dragon Age team has read the room on not deviating from what Dragon Age is. Tevinter wasn't what we expected but likely that is due to the factional fight between the Shadow Dragons and the Venatori representing a Tevinter caught in a tug of war between it's old self and it's evolving self, probably why there were no brothels.

[@EvanFarshadow]

I think the feather connecting Origins and DA2 is Anders, as all other images represent a character, and Anders is the character that is in both games. And the bow is absolutely better representing Leliana, as she is an archer.

[@lizknives]

I really didn't know how to feel about Bioware hinting at a 5th game so quickly but I'm starting to get excited when I hear you and others talk and theorize about it. I would love it if our heroes returned in this next game and we had to work up to build alliances with them

[@N7Allfather]

Glad to see someone talking about this. Found this room first playthrough without really looking thinking the room would be for some quest later. 2nd playthrough find it again and realized nothing ever brought me here so I really looked and lost my mind when I saw the wall connections

[@OGWardenofMyHeart]

Yet another outstanding video Jack, I looked at this board for a while in-game. Absolutely loving what you've told us.

[@dimodihanov5939]

Very wishful thinking that there will ever be a Dragon Age 5

[@graynor67]

You’re an idiot

[@FearlessXful]

DA Veilguard has been received well and sold decently enough. There will be a DA 5.

[@mitchcane2352]

@@FearlessXful Citation needed

[@siliarba]

@@FearlessXful Regardless of how you feel about DA, the numbers that are known are highly disappointing for a triple a game. Just using the numbers that are known it has unfortunately made a massive loss.

[@FearlessXful]

@siliarba not at all. It is all in your head. Go back to playing CoD and FIFA casual.

[@SquAshe]

I was REALLY hoping you'd find this room. 🎉

[@VillianousKitty]

I don't think that symbol is a crow, it looks like a bow an arrow, which I think represents Leliana. The feather may actually represent Morrigan instead 🤔

[@fenharel3991]

Well I hope that in DA5, in order to fight the executors, the HOF + their romance (Morrigan in my case), Hawke + their romance (Isabela), the Inquisitor + romance (Cassandra), and THE DREAD WOLF all combine forces together with everyone we’ve ever had in our parties for one big avengers endgame style show down. Solas knows of the executors. Let us control him in dread wolf form. Let’s go. And the trespasser Eluvian Battle theme is blasting during this fight.

[@maloreally]

I truly just interpreted this as a cheeky nod to the player-outside the board but the through line through all four of the games (thus the double chord that only connects through the four symbols for the four games). I obviously could be wrong, but that is just what I thought as I ran through there. 😊

[@Leigh-yz2bg]

I found this board in my first play through and I KNEW and have been WAITING for Jackdaw to make a Tin-Foil video on it! You don’t disappoint, Jackdaw!

[@RaydivatheWriter]

As much as I would love to see that final battle, I would be happy at this point for them to update the Dragon Age Keep site or add a storybook option (like the one ME3 got) to input your previous games' decisions into Veilguard. There are spots in the game that it feels like they intended to have previous game choices pop up but ended up removing. I wonder if they'll continue the story of Thedas by starting a new Age and if they do what would it be called.

[@binah7744]

The instant I saw the conspiracy board, I was excited for you to post

[@Parakka]

I wouldn't be supprised if there is some sort of secret order that has been watching events and putting them together, maybe because they know about the Executors or not and they are trying to prepare for their return.

[@Allaiya.]

This was super interesting. Great video. If they did something like that for DA5, they’d have to bring the Keep back.

[@aeonarin]

You don't disappoint 😂

[@DrStrawb3rry]

It would be cool if that was the Hero of Ferelden's board and they been watching the shadows figures. A return of them maybe as a mentor figure would be dope.

[@ruairidhkoch7875]

Sir Dav when are yiu planning to release DA 5?

[@bumphreyhogart7264]

If DA5 is happening it should at least involve the Dwarves + Titans going on a crusade against the Elves.

[@CombieFighter]

I've been waiting for this!

[@sortilien2099]

Sola's dagger connected harding back tothe titans... maybe it did the same for Varric. Dwarf don't die the go back to the stone.It's still to have him in a different form.

[@Zeromegas]

Is a nice peyote dream that the devs has about having a sequel specially on their hands

[@MothHawke]

I noticed that board! I honestly thought it was the devs making fun of us clowns lol

[@RasBurger]

My theory is that because the new protag's paper is outside the board, they will be from outside Thedas, possibly an Executor? That would be interesting if we play as the "villain" in DA5. Also, the only thread connecting to the new protag is Rook.

[@ryanjones6688]

I like this theory a lot. If we do get a 5th game, i would like to see hawkes armour and the inquisition dragon armour make a return and solas (trespasser) armour too.

[@TinaTinkSwafford]

This was an unexpected pleasant surprise @Jackdaw. Thank you! 🎉❤

[@beerexpert1057]

Dragon Age 5: Tactics - You control a party of 8 adventurers.....

[@galilea723]

I doubt they include many legacy characters. Mayne Rook. And I hope they integrate some decisions of the past games. No need for the DAI keep to retur just the mayor ones. Who is the white divine? Kieran exist? That sort of thing

[@cracmar03]

Keep in general should return, maybe not as webpage but offline app that is readable by games. Keep was genius tool helping to narrow down and direct how game should play to respect choices. Game should just read pieces of Keep that will come to play in it.

[@galilea723]

@@cracmar03 what I meant is that the keep is yo extensive to realistically expect to have an impact. But we could have had more than DAV did

[@TheVeseer]

Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain speak about the Executors in game as well

[@ZehnWaters]

It’s good to hear from you again.

[@macglower1419]

first feather links hof and hawke, so that says to me a separate fallen feather, black so crow, and thus zevran.

[@TheKangaRooster]

Jackdaw, I just have to say that you are incredible at what you do - Thank you for getting me through a LONG period of waiting for Dreadwolf. Your videos were one of the best parts of waiting. Much respect to you. Unfortunately, I feel like 'Veilguard' was a huge disappointment overall and not even close to being a Dragon Age game - The feeling that kept me wanting more is gone. The blatant disregard of the past choices and storylines was too much for me to overlook (especially when you pair it with the poor writing and new art style). This story has become far too juvenile for me in it's most recent installment and I can no longer support this franchise. I will return to DAO through Inquisition to get my DA fix and look forward to hopefully seeing you revisit those gems in your future videos.

[@graynor67]

What past choices ? Lmao drinking from thr well ? Who cares lmao the game dropped massive lore about the titans and elves teased since DAO

[@FearlessXful]

No one cares. Move on to other games then.

[@RockoEstalon]

I feel like it points to a new enemy rather than the hero.

[@visionhawk4403]

Doesn't the Divine of the Chantry name the ages? Why would Morrigan be able to do it?

[@theEisbergmann]

You know... say what you will, but Dragon Age II did it right. It went down with the global importance while retaining its epicness. The Executives are a BAD idea. Always putting someone higher above the last antagonist cheapens the previous experiences...

[@willsword8100]

Big question, does anything we do carry over? Does choice matter?

[@galilea723]

The are like 3 choices in DAV plus who survives the final battle I think would be easier to implement. They should bring back at least the mayor decision of past games (kinda like the awful minigame you play if you not import a old save in mass effect. Theres not every choice but enough to impact the game)

[@N7Commandershep]

Yay! Clown 🤡 makeup is back

[@muspell8015]

One day, if they believe hard enough, Failguard will be a good game.

[@Allaiya.]

Well seeing as how MEA and DA2 are now considered good games by most people, shouldn’t be that hard

[@mjw3877]

Dragon Age 5?😂

[@matheusmrmello]

I hope the next hero doesn't get as muck jabs from Harding than Rook does LOL Battlefield in flames, blight everywhere, darkspawn all ove my face and she goes "DON'T JUST STAND THERE"! Like... would you stop clocking me for 2 whole seconds?? LOOOOL shade as* dwarf.

[@RockCitty]

Do we think there even will be another Dragon Age game tho? :(

[@graynor67]

Yes shut up

[@Fantasygirl2001]

The odd thing is that they have shown characters who may have "died" in other games and yet have brought them backing other stories. Bioware has said they are going to try not to do that in this game, but I don't believe that for a second. They have followed that pattern too often.

[@SisterTheohild]

Which Character in Veilguard are you referring to? I cannot think of one be character right now, that could die in previous games and is alive again in Veilguard. :o

[@Fantasygirl2001]

@SisterTheohild I am not referring to characters in veilgaurd, but throughout the dragon age series, sometimes people do playthroughs where Liliana will not survive for whatever reason yet then she still appears in Dragon age 2 and inquisition my guess is it will be no different with the varric dying despite the finality we suppose I highly doubt Bioware will if they do continue the dragon age series they will bring him back because it is the demand of the fans

[@danielferreirademenezes5653]

Part of me wants this game to be a spin off what if

[@hxc5020]

Great breakdown, but I’m just not excited about Dragon Age anymore. While I was entertained by DAV, it also left me with an empty feeling. I don’t think BioWare is capable of writing compelling characters and stories like they used to. Case in point: I felt very little emotional connection to any of the companions in DAV, except for Harding-and she was introduced in a previous game. Given the studio’s apparent rush to move on to the new Mass Effect game and their seeming distance from Dragon Age, I highly doubt we’ll ever get a fifth game. Even if we do, I’m not sure I’d want to play it.

[@angryvaultguy]

Hopefully bioware finally learns what MOST of the fans actually want from dragon age for the 5th game Immersive dialogue, better writing, player choice and roleplay (cause ya know rpg stands for roleplaying game after all) Basically what made bioware great in the first place, and hopefully after bulder's gate they will realise many people still enjoy a single player roleplaying experience

[@ChloesDragons]

I would actually LOVE to play Rook again, dont feel like their story was anywhere near complete! We didnt even get the usual spiel about what the characters are up to after. I want more romance with Lucanis, want it to build like Liara in Mass Effect. BUT if you said in your solas video that SPOILERS Rook can be locked in the fade SPOILERS. Then i doubt theyll do that cause potentially we wont see them again :(

[@reffa2858]

What if Morrigan has another child and he/she becomes the new hero.

[@anderporascu5026]

The Executors are basically the Illuminati of the fantasy universe, they are playing a long game for the purpose of reshaping the universe and might eventually bring forth Dragon Age's version of a Thanos character.

[@9365fall]

god will bioware will be gone and this will never happen

[@ScythosMusic]

Progenitors of the Qunari mayhaps?

[@stitchedfreedom]

1:21 Great Neve cosplay

[@mykarose6937]

I might be on my own with this but I really want the next game to be a visual novel that puts all of its resources into writing and bringing back the keep.

[@revancousland2524]

YES! MAKE OUR CHOICES MATTER AGAIN

[@cal5365]

I think i would game end myself if I had to endure an entire VN game written by the veilguard writers

[@normnormey9313]

I can only hope that Microsoft buys Bioware... Thats the only way we are ever getting a Dragon Age 5... let's all pray for that!

[@endlessthunder6161]

Nah BioWare is dead

[@graynor67]

If they were dead they wouldn’t be working on mass effect 5 rn lmao

[@endlessthunder6161]

@ sorry for not making myself clear.. I mean the original team and ideas are dead and that it’s just a name now.

[@maosomniatrix]

its never too early to bring out the tinfoil hat :D ♥ after the game is before the game amiright

[@SarAnna2195]

I haven't finished DATV yet, but you you are saying there is a chance for another game...even though I am extremely dissapointed with the 'hard' reset they give in the Veilguard where lore and past history are sort of...flattened and turned upside down imo....we'll see. I have yet to see if I am going to be surprised with the ending in some way.

[@graynor67]

You’re Clearly not playing the game because no lore has been reset lmao

[@AmbigousInfluence]

​@@graynor67 was about to say the same thing, do these people have brain defects causing all this whinging. Like, can they comprehend the information given to them and see how it lines up with the old games. Cause there are a lot of smaller references to what happened, just because there is not a blazing banner for activities that happened over a decade ago on the other side of a continent does not mean they are gone.

[@FLASK904]

I think the big symbols dont represent heroes, they represent organizations. The symbol for the Warden, the Inquisition, and the Veilguard. I think the final symbol is a shrouded person because we dont know who it will be. There is a lot of writing on that last page, that the other pages dont have, so my guess is whoever is piecing this stuff together, is guessing who will be the leader of the new organization. Id keep my saves from this game...

[@sw-gs]

Why people look for clues and sense where is none?

[@Cresc3n1]

Oh this is surely a Major hint and it fits perfectly.

[@cracmar03]

I thought that image is a bow and it's about Leliana. Which makes sense as this thread skips over Kirkwall entirely. Leliana was absent in DA II furthermore Leliana started with Cassandra Inquisition, Morrigan was also absent in DA II .. could be that feather is Hawke indeed ... thought my initial thought was Zevran, considered he was companion that appears in both Origins and DA II. Well yes if this is Bow for Leliana, then yes she started at Fifth Blight, HoF changed her life - literally, then she started Inquisition once that ended she is either Divine or she leaves ... and in Inquisition we had Solas, so it's his thread that overtakes. Leliana's ends on starting Inquisition, but it was Inquisition that had borne Dread Wolf's return. Morrigan makes less sense, as she is present in Veilguard. And the Bow symbol ends on Inquisition. From that point on it's all about Wolf - so Solas. We could see from bottom part of Bianca for Varric how it should go. Bianca has no thread to Origins, because it makes no sense, and Crossbow has thread going from Kirkwall to Inquisition and ends on Veilguard. Which makes sense as Varric literally dies here. So thread should symbolize connection. And Bow's one ends on Inquisition. Which makes no sense for Morrigan but makes total sense for Leliana instead. She can turn into a ghost by end of Inquisition if you killed her in Origins. Her story was essentially over in that game. Just like Varric's is in Veilguard. Solas story also ends in Veilguard, we can see that blue thread he overtook from Bow symbol ends on Veilguard as well. I still do not understand why Varric was in Veilguard at all .. he and Solas were NOT getting along in Inquisition. It was evident with how they were handling Cole. If anything it should have been Inquisitor who tried to stop them. Ofc that would meant that Solas would accidentally killed the one person he respected and considered a friend/love. An ultimate regret factor for him, the worst accidental death he could have caused. Hell there could be also factor of him being in total and complete denial, causing you to think Inquisitor is alive. Tbh I want dlc's to Veilguard. And yeah I agree, finale should have all previous heroes, preferably with their love interests. I am tired of BioWare constantly tearing their relationships apart. However for HoF they would have to finally end thread of "Search for cure for Calling". And for Hawke for sake of franchise they need to solve Fade thing. They should have kept Keep for Veilguard. Ending with Varric would be more bittersweet if he was finally reunited in Fade, as he walks away, with Hawke. His biggest regret of life being somewhat fixed.

[@GRIMHOOD99]

Leliana was in two DLCs for DA2 and was left hand of the divine at the time so she did work with Cassandra.

[@cracmar03]

@@GRIMHOOD99 Leliana was irrelevant in DA 2. She was in dlc's yes, at Duke Prosper party she just is giving you some small talk about her and past. In Sebastian's dlc all her role boils down to "Please tell Elthina to flee Kirkwall" which Elthina doesn't do because plot must happen. If you look at conspiracy board, the people IMPORTANT in story are pinned. Such as Eye of Seeker representing Cassandra is pinned and linked to Varric's line and also ends on Inquisition. Which makes sense, Cassandra is not present in Veilguard. Even the interrogation about Champion is more work of Cassandra. Leliana wanted to find Hero of Ferelden, and it was more Cassandra that wanted to recruit Hawke.

[@theesper7404]

Unfortunately, I don't believe there will be a 5th game to the series with the way is bombed and retconned lore. It would be nice in the future if they did revisit and remake veilguard into the dreadwolf we were promised.

[@HyouVizer]

Definitely will be but smaller scale for sure, won't be out until mid 2030s at the least lol

[@danielburlaka]

What are u talking about lol

[@Ross-qp8eq]

DA devs have already came out and said that DA5 is never happening with veilguard being a failure the franchise is permanently on ice

[@tqueen7131]

Its the connection to Executors an enemy likely

[@Allaiya.]

Man, Dragon Age inquisition graphics really don’t age well imho. Wouldn’t mind seeing it upgraded to DAV level

[@peepseye1]

Ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny confirmed?

[@BelieveIt1051]

There won't be a Dragon Age 5. There wasn't even a legitimate Dragon Age 4. I'll stick with the Dragon Age trilogy.

[@mclovin_tk9727]

there will be no new dragon age game ever again....its over

[@lisdraconis2212]

How do you know?

[@mclovin_tk9727]

@lisdraconis2212 well ea likes money, veilguard didnt given them money so....

[@Corvus-IX]

⁠@@mclovin_tk9727 According to VG Insights, Veilguard has currently sold over 700k copies on Steam alone (and since the game is also available on the EA App, that’s not even the game’s total PC sales so far) and while we don’t currently have the game’s overall sales figures, Dragon Age has always sold more on consoles than on PC, so we can safely assume that the sales on PS5 and Xbox are even higher than that.

[@TheRoguePrince0]

I look forward to DA5 i hope they do something crazy with it like set it at sea with ships or even on a new continent. I hope it continues the tradition of being different from the one that came before it.

[@Miandey]

Sorry i am done waiting^^ Dragon Age - it were the Elves all along. Nope i am good, i dont need it warmed up. Think of Anders beloved in a dlc - ruined in DA2. Varric beloved in every game only to end up as bait in the last. Its all good - its over.

[@rpgfairyplays9410]

As soon as I seen that board I though of you.

[@calimel9092]

great video!

[@Hrdrockr]

We both know there won’t be a dragon age 5

[@that_shanti9355]

I hope it's all wrong and bioware will finally become disbanded. Probably after upsetting ME fans as well.

[@graynor67]

They’re literally working on ME5 rn DATV already sold 700k on steam not counting the EA launcher and console

[@Tsotmiam]

I don't trust this team to make a sequel and unless Veilguard has a Christmas explosion I don't think we'll have to worry about that anytime soon.

[@FearlessXful]

Veilguard sold well and got good reviews. Whine elsewhere.

[@Tsotmiam]

@@FearlessXful 1. Even if you used the highest estimate for DAV sales that number isn't high enough for a game with a dev cycle that long. Even if EA took every cent from every copy sold one million copies sold isn't even half of their reported production budget. 2. That wasn't a whine, that was a statement. Don't take the comment section too personally.

[@jenniferhanses]

No. At this point, they need to tear this up, go back to the drawing board, and redo their sequel to Inquisition. Then we can talk. This was such a load of garbage.

[@winniesomethin]

They should have stayed with Project Joplin. THAT was what meant to be an accurate following to Inquisition, but instead we had changes and the Sims devs came in.

[@jenniferhanses]

@@winniesomethin I knew the Project was named Joplin, but do you have any ideas what was in it? I've heard people mention you can see things from the Art Book?

[@winniesomethin]

@@jenniferhanses Worldstates were incorporated (people also recently datamined Veilguard and found Isabela’s past choices were in consideration. Inquisitor’s attire was also a lot more covert, among other things), possibilities of tranquil Solas, glimpses of how Minrathous etc were supposed to be a lot more grim. Yes, a lot of it was mentioned in the art book (you could watch the unboxing videos of interested for details). Basically the direct plans after Inquisition, before they were screwed by EA/live service reboot, and then the current team.

[@jenniferhanses]

@@winniesomethin I didn't mind them going more mage punk for Minrathous. If any place was going to have the Thedas equivalent of neon lights, this was the place. I would just also expect to see how all the beauty of Minrathous was paid for, built on the backs of the poor and the slaves. I'm also meh on the Inquisitor's choice of clothes. I don't really care about that one way or the other and would expect that to change right up until the last moment because it's such a random little detail. Tranquil Solus is an interesting possibility. And dear god, Isabella has looked better. And I don't just mean because they deflated her chest. Her lips are also deflated, and her hat actually drives me nuts. A hat like that should sit about a 1/2 inch above your ear or it's going to come off in a light breeze, let alone the kind of stiff wind you sail under. Her hat is like 2-3 inches above her ear. Also she gets that weird line about learning about family in Kirkwall. My experience of DA:II is I have a 50/50 chance of Isabella sticking with me. Bioware was all about not wanting to invalidate your choices and that's why they didn't incorporate world states, but by not incorporating world states, they invalidated Isabella's history and all the choices I made that led up to her not being ride or die for me.

[@robertthornton7900]

The one thing Veilguard showed us is that they don't care about anything from the past. If they were smart they would do something like what you mentioned. And Endgame style collaboration where all the MCs came together. And you controlled them all ... But they clearly showed they dont care about anything from the old trilogy. Not to mention... seeing them butcher and mishandle the older characters that did make appearances... do we really even want to see them? So we can get watered down politically altered social justice versions of the characters?

[@graynor67]

You realize he’s talking about DA5 being the team up game idiot

[@mauricewilks1974]

Great stuff

[@CanadianMoose272]

The fact that whoever made this board has already connected the new protagonist to Rook is intriguing. Has our Rook already influenced the next protagonist in some way? Hmm 🤔

[@oktaymozaffary5637]

There wont be dragon age 5 veilgaurd was the last

[@thanellen8757]

Considering the sales leak, EA will likely shelve the franchise before they let anyone else touch the game. Personally, I don't want another DA game. The legacy is already tainted thanks to the failed guard.

[@graynor67]

There was no sales leak and that was debunked by Jason and Tom Henderson

[@thanellen8757]

@@graynor67 source, please? :3

[@dirkbsilver9260]

After this last rubbish game. I doubt there will be a Bioware very long, let alone another Dragon Age. If they fail to make a banger ME5, I am pretty certain that EA will kill the studio and maybe the franchises aswell. Personally this dumpster fire retcon fest has me feel that DA ended in Inquisition.

[@graynor67]

Game already sold 700k alone on steam not counting console and EA app Ea also said its selling within expectations

[@AmbigousInfluence]

​@@graynor67shh, don't tell them facts. Then again...do.

[@dirkbsilver9260]

@@graynor67 that's not the numbers it needs to sell to make up for its costs. It already is not worth a plug nickle in trade in at Gamestop as they have too many. It also has lost most of it's current player numbers on Steam with most not having finished it. Why do you think EA, a company that thrives on milking a game for every red cent has killed it for DLCs or updates just a week or two after release. You may like it but it failed worse than Anthem and Andromeda. That makes 3 Strikes in a row. I loved Bioware for a long while, but they have become a literal different company than they once were. They have alienated most of their fanbase and the goodwill they once had banked there with us. It's in the numbers and reception of the game, they've bounced too many checks. EA is not a forgiving company by their history of killing studios that under perform.

[@cal5365]

He thinks nu Bioware will get a shot at another game after this travesty, they wasted all their chances and have kept releasing worse and worse games since DA2

[@graynor67]

Lmao DAI sold more than DAO AND DA2 combined idiot

[@arg_9584]

I'd much rather them leave the series alone for a long time and reboot the franchise than make a 5th installment. Either commit to a remake of Origins or a Legendary Edition with this current iteration of Bioware, or give it to someone else at this point.

[@DeiManThe1]

hard disagree

[@solidswat2041]

Couldn't agree less, sorry.

[@lordofgingers]

Would say that after game 5. Let them finish the story with game 5. Then do what you’re saying

[@nikcezek9657]

Agreed, BioWare have no idea what they’re doing

[@moysoyjoy]

Respectfully, no.

[@anrios575]

Bioware is moving away from past games. This Executor thing is just a way to start a new story with just little nods to the past.

[@robertthornton7900]

This! 🎯💯 They showed in Veilguard they dont care about anything from the past.

[@HyouVizer]

​@robertthornton7900 they do care, just a lot of the past writers of former DA games and novels are gone. So they didn't know what they wanted to do with those past characters. That's why it isn't so connected like originally intended sadly.

[@lisdraconis2212]

@@robertthornton7900 They were already mentioned in DAI