Jackmanifold SPEAKS OUT on Wilbur Soot's Allegations

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#jackmanifold #wilbursoot #shubble
JackManifold's FULL Response on Wilbur Soot's Allegation
JackManifold's Vod: / 2076517722
JackManifold's Stream: / jackmanifoldtv
Wilbur's Response: / 1762505851699380353

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@PrincessHanbok 6 ай бұрын

Ever since Techno has passed away everything has been going downhill in Dream SMP.

@Beautiful_Strangerrr 6 ай бұрын

very true : (

@LolLinn_Baihe 6 ай бұрын

Yes….

@woJ10 6 ай бұрын

Techno would be so disappointed with this

@m1keykun 6 ай бұрын

@@woJ10yeah..

@Bubble_Kayl36 6 ай бұрын

@@woJ10 I didn't want to say this but techno would be fucking disappointed in Wilbur.

@kinnelyuwu5771 6 ай бұрын

I hate people trying to add more shit on like abuse isnt enough. Someone who fully admitted they didnt watch shelby's vod was trying to say that the SA she mentioned from her first boyfriend was really Wilbur and like,,, he doesnt need to be a r*pist for this to be vile. You dont need him to also be preying on minors for him abusing his partner to be fucked up

@rileyb0423 6 ай бұрын

Fr, abuse is abuse but turning someone into a racist? Wth

@kinnelyuwu5771 6 ай бұрын

@@rileyb0423 other r word, but yeah

@rileyb0423 6 ай бұрын

@@kinnelyuwu5771 Lol sorry autocorrect

@leitnerpiper69 6 ай бұрын

well his other ex said he s a'd her

@brokendieselproductions 3 ай бұрын

I haven't watched anything of the Wilbur soot in 5 months so I don't know what's going on someone tell me what's going on

@Vox_Tech- 6 ай бұрын

The way Jack's apology was better than Wilbur's, And he didn't even do anything wrong, it really is heart breaking. 😥

@theLemonaide 6 ай бұрын

Jack not being his usual loud self through this made it seem actually really real

@Softwareeeee 6 ай бұрын

Yeah the whole people saying that he was weird to tommy and jack never sticked right by me, it feels disrespectful to both shelby and tommy to assume shit like abuse wasn't enough to stop supporting him, it's so weird to me how people will always drop the minor related accusations as soon as they don't like someone, especially as someone who went through csa, it feels like it's a game to them. (EDIT) I'm not saying he didn't do anything, but assuming and pushing people to come out w their traumas is still scummy, people should move on their own time and pushing tommy to speak out on things that MAY NOT have even happened is gross.

@Softwareeeee 6 ай бұрын

Potential victims should come out ON THEIR OWN TIME not the public's time like c'mon didn't we just talk abt this on aimsey's stream

@getaloadofthisguy2927 6 ай бұрын

It’s like they’re still stuck on lore and villains. He’s a bad dude who did a bad thing, not some scheming mustache curl villain who’s been planning everything since the start

@cyphersantiago5377 6 ай бұрын

agreed that nobody should speak for anyone and also that nobody should rush anyone. also agreed about the age thing- why is it always shifted to minors?? also an impractical accusation because philza is literally 35 and wilbur is only 27 💀 neither of them are pedos bro

@Softwareeeee 6 ай бұрын

I'm also a victim of abuse and I was pushed and pushed to come out about my abuse and all it did was detriment my mental health, one thing is being open to listening and the other is throwing accusations around until one of them lands and ends up affecting the victim.

@snowfire321 6 ай бұрын

@BlueRedPanda I feel like you need to find a mid-point between support and pressure. Let people know they *can* come out with it, but they don't *have* to

@gimmble8537 6 ай бұрын

Honestly I feel really bad for his bandmates in Lovejoy. Like the band is gonna now lose TONS of support and I also just wouldn't be surprised if the band broke up

@sultanbundi3415 6 ай бұрын

honestly I feel idc really cause they are famous because of wil its a shame yes but they depended on willbur popularity

@gimmble8537 6 ай бұрын

@@sultanbundi3415 I mean honestly his fame and his fanbase is now gonna be very low

@ilovepastayum 6 ай бұрын

joe should start his own band :p ✨jand✨

@Auraberry_ 6 ай бұрын

I'm just so lost because lovejoy was one of the main things that helped me through the hardest points in my life. I have no honest idea what to do now, I literally only listen to them, and that's not an exaggeration lol

@leitnerpiper69 6 ай бұрын

@@Auraberry_check out bay faction. ive reverted back to them since i found out

@Imoutsideteehee 6 ай бұрын

Haven't seen Kack in a hot minute, so seeing him with hair shocked 😭😭😭 EDIT: it was a typo, but kack's translatation kills me😂

@2Navalie 6 ай бұрын

i love kack

@mariomario9209 6 ай бұрын

Ah yes good ol *KACK*

@meganstewart8699 6 ай бұрын

Ik you meant jack but kack is sm funnier

@silentwinters 6 ай бұрын

good ol kack!

@Panda.Dem0n 6 ай бұрын

Mmmmm. Kack.

@Selviman18 3 ай бұрын

In 8mins and 25 secs Jack has apologised 9 times (i think) while wil couldn't apologise appropriately in a fucking tweet

@kingwolfinsheepsclothing4188 6 ай бұрын

I know this is not topic but I haven't seen Jack for so long I got so confused why his hair is blonde

@cherrystitchesletsplay 6 ай бұрын

Idk I haven’t seen it either

@salem-ll6vx 6 ай бұрын

I think it was for a charity stream, though I may be wrong

@BrankoVT 6 ай бұрын

Eminem

@pando0884 6 ай бұрын

i am confused about his low voice. I never actively watched him, but this low voice has to be new o.O

@Bookstera 6 ай бұрын

Bro jackmanifold has always been so majestic.

@Dr4m4Qu33n-x3g 2 ай бұрын

Why does he low-key look like Eminem now?! 😂

@StormPheasey 2 ай бұрын

Jack was very responsible sharing his opinion and having that link for that charity was extremely generous and kind of him, despite him having nothing to do with the original situation

@bettyboop9269 6 ай бұрын

that's the terrible thing is those things : of course the victim is the one to support but they are a lot of collateral victims as well ... all the family, the friends , the fan etc ... Take care of you all and be sure to have always someone to talk to

@Totallynotcucurucho 6 ай бұрын

Update I took all the lovejoy songs out of my playlists, this situation really is messed up..

@BunnuDraws 6 ай бұрын

same…

@agnesgiess7364 6 ай бұрын

I didn’t cause the rest of the band isn’t at fault

@Silentsloth 6 ай бұрын

I like the music but I feel but listening to it now :(

@cherrystitchesletsplay 6 ай бұрын

Same

@Totallynotcucurucho 6 ай бұрын

@@agnesgiess7364 I only did bc it made me uncomfortable hearing his voice and it made me think about what he did-

@Nabibeoseos 6 ай бұрын

I feel so bad I can’t believe my idol is abusive he will never be my idol again and not only that he lost his entire career Praying for Shelby ❤❤❤❤

@IsNotRockDwayne 6 ай бұрын

you could say that, but there are ppl like me, who obviously condemn (sry if i spelt it wrong im hungarian) what he has done, but ofc he needs to somewhat be forgiven. in his defence, he obv. has some sort of mental illness/issue, shelby also said that his living conditions were horrible, so his mental health might be too. ofcourse this cannot cancel out what he has done, but he needs to genuenly apologize, not to us, but to shelby and he needs to be forgiven. hate and anger will NEVER solve anything. people can always change. and people like tommy could help wilbur be better, go to therapy and change his ways. the correct way to deal with this, is to deal enough pressure for him to understand that this was wrong, have him feel terrible about it, make him apologize, then help him redeem himself and to become better. please read my text through with actual thinking, becuase people instantly jump at me like lions for even uttering that even wilbur needs help too. once again, it IS unacceptable that he has done this, but raging and hating him wont solve anything, meanwhile scolding him and making him understand what he did, while helping him be better is the best solution to this.

@piggboi_kristian5992 6 ай бұрын

Unrelated but at 7:13 jack sounds like stampy longhead

@emfen0928 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for gathering and posting all these clips of people talking about the whole situation. I'm not very good at staying informed, and I really appreciate being able to find these important conversations. It's helped a lot with processing my own shock and emotions to listen to other creators talk about it. Support Shelby and other victims always! :(

@kayleighdriessen 4 ай бұрын

Without Technoblade the heart and soul of the Dream-SMP, all it's leftover member drift apart and are just a bunch of strangers now.

@SwathiDinesh-gu6qm 6 ай бұрын

To the people that see this, the next time Shelby goes live please try to show her all the support in the world. Because on other streams that talk about this, there have been people defending wilbur. So when Shelby goes live, I want everyone to drown out all the problematic chatters and show how amazing she is. Abuse is a serious thing and it shouldn't be ignored just because someone is popular. Shelby support

@Aquamarine21109 16 күн бұрын

wow supporting an ableist? that's crazy.... #wilbursupportsquad

@OspreyFromCabin4or7 6 ай бұрын

I can’t even go a second without stuff like this coming up. I know this is important but I’m still wishing for this all to be a terrible vivid nightmare. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping I’ll just wake up in my bed and this last week has just been a dream. I wish that I’ll just wake up with my cold and it be Monday again. Sure, the dream would trouble me, but it would be better than it being real.

@Ph0en1x_F1re Ай бұрын

I’m sorry friend, but it’s been months now. I feel the same, but if this horrible world we’re living in is a dream, I don’t think we’re waking up…

@Blazerodjj 3 ай бұрын

i feel so bad for people like tubbo tommy jack etc people they have been friends with for years on end have been called out to be bad people and to throw salt in the wombs people beg them to respond on it which is hard for them to do and some people in the fandom dont think how it can effect them and making it more difficult for them and you can clearly see that jack is upset considering that wilbur was his friend and tommy and tubbo mostly because they were friends with the boys who got exposed for things and people expect a response when they should be let choose if they want to make a video talking about it but if not they should be left alone and what makes it worse is when people decide to make up lies about members like the one lie about tubbo it needs to stop and the excuse they used to explain why they lied is wrong saying it was a social experiment to see how quick people will turn on the member is wrong and tubbo was clearly upset by it just were does it end

@Dr4m4Qu33n-x3g 2 ай бұрын

After Techno died, stuff really went downhill. Dream lost a load of fame and support, and then there’s this, and the stuff with GeorgeNotFound. Anyway, always support abuse victims.

@digiishort Ай бұрын

my only question is how did people not see this coming given the lyrics of every single one of his songs

@Aquamarine21109 16 күн бұрын

and how did nobody hear that in wilbur's song amazon standing lamp he says "Hit me now before this gets too cute. Don't make me beg in this hotel room." which indicates shelby was the actual abuser.

@th3littlewitchof 6 ай бұрын

Blud this brings a whole new meaning to “crime boy” /j (YALL MY WAY OF COPING WITH THINGS IS JOKING ABT IT AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THAT I DONT CARE LOL)

@icky_icarus5489 6 ай бұрын

DW MATE ITS FUNNY

@eris_8363 6 ай бұрын

There's nothing for you to cope with this has nothing to do with you

@kingdarkflame6783 6 ай бұрын

@@eris_8363 Of course they might have to cope. Wilbur was loved by millions of fans. Can you imagine waking up and hearing that someone you looked up to and respected did that?

@foxxberry2752 6 ай бұрын

@@eris_8363bruh you're just invalidating people here, while it's true that we must just feel bad to whoever's (I'm saying whoever because we don't have proper evidence) the victim here. But a lot of people are hurt with this issue, because a lot of people felt saved with Wil's content and it's not wrong to feel hurt about it. Personally I'm not a huge fan, but I was just starting to like him and was looking forward to his future endeavors in QSMP, knowing his Egg was waiting for him. Still this situation is frustrating.

@bobatea3401 6 ай бұрын

I loved him as in I. Was attached. I get attached fairly easily and quickly and it's hard for me to let go. Which hurts. I now know what would probably happen Which hurts

@Krylands_ 6 ай бұрын

Why have you posted everyone's responses to it like it's a trend or something that can get you "clout" online the people who said these things have already posted it themselves

@Kaiasnotfound 2 ай бұрын

It’s for people who don’t have twitch like I needed this video because I wanted to be in the loop of what’s happening with everything because I don’t have twitch or twitter or anything😊

@berry_cakeisgood 6 ай бұрын

I hope everyone who was close to him calls him out and etc because there still people who are defending Wilbur which are weirdos

@IsNotRockDwayne 6 ай бұрын

@Emma-eq8pm 6 ай бұрын

@@IsNotRockDwayneI agree. I think it would be great if he could get proper help and fix himself. I’m hoping that not all his friends will just turn on him so he can still have a support group.

@aspen34 6 ай бұрын

@@Emma-eq8pmnobody is obligated to stick around. they’re not turning on him, they’re just not associating w him bc he’s a piece of shit.

@IsNotRockDwayne 6 ай бұрын

See, you get it! Senseless anger and hate will get us nowhere.He needs proper help.@@Emma-eq8pm

@CathyAnimations 6 ай бұрын

People who are close to him are calling Wilbur out, include Aimsey, Minx, Jack..exc

@mlem5247 3 ай бұрын

why is jack the real slim shady now

@Dr4m4Qu33n-x3g 2 ай бұрын

Fr.

@Dapper_Doormat 6 ай бұрын

Does anyone have a synopsis of what Wilbur actually did? All I've seen so far was that he bit his ex and continued doing so after she told him to tone it down. Was that it?

@thesmarriottways 6 ай бұрын

uhh so shelby and will were like together and wilbur was like hurting shelby and shelby kept telling him to stop and they made a safeword to like stop but he didnt stop and he did it like everyday

@Dapper_Doormat 6 ай бұрын

@@thesmarriottways isn't that why she broke up with him then?

@Fizz_bang 6 ай бұрын

It wasn’t only the biting. There were loads of other things. You should watch the vod if you want it all, it’s only 30 minutes long.

@szofiaosborne8007 6 ай бұрын

Its quite a nuanced situation that, like I've seen someone say already, can only really be understood through watching Shelby's vod, but some key aspects involve manipulation, forms of gaslighting/other emotional abuse, physical abuse & ignoring/weaponisation of safe words (in the form of biting until she used a safe word each time), and weaponised incompetence.

@Oldmeme592 6 ай бұрын

Does Jack manifold still play Minecraft?

@CopperCoin__ 6 ай бұрын

These are not 'Allegations', Its straight up fucking abuse

@c.stargazer 6 ай бұрын

I think Jetermoh has to write 'allengations' for legal reasons

@isfo02 6 ай бұрын

technically and legally they are allegations. there is no legal court evidence of this being true or false. there is also a chance he could get sued for defamation if this all goes to court and Wilbur is found innocent

@Dr4m4Qu33n-x3g 2 ай бұрын

@@isfo02 However Wilbur did directly admit to having done it. After all, why would he apologise for something he hadn’t done? He stated in his apology that he did do that stuff.

@isfo02 2 ай бұрын

@@Dr4m4Qu33n-x3g This was before he spoke on the matter more. Legally, if anyone slips up and straight out says he did it (before he admits) they could be in legal trouble. They're just covering their bases to play it safe.

@MARLO11209 6 ай бұрын

I don’t know who any of these people are, but this drama is interesting

@isfo02 6 ай бұрын

ong

@Silent_reaper117 5 ай бұрын

@death-istic9586 6 ай бұрын

Hi.

@WeirdCore_Weirdo 6 ай бұрын

Wilbur is going to bring out the ukulele 😭💀

@death-istic9586 6 ай бұрын

@@WeirdCore_Weirdoyeah😂

@cherrystitchesletsplay 6 ай бұрын

Неу Іt’ѕ been а whіle sinсe yоu saw my facе I haven’t been doing so great Ѕo I toоk а littlе break А lot of people are saying ѕomе thіngs abоut me thаt aren’t quite true Doеsn’t matter if it’s true though Јust aѕ long as it’s entertаіning to yоu right? You guуs having fun? All aboard thе toхic gosѕіp train Сhugging dоwn the trаcks of misinformatіon Тhe toxic gоssip train You got a one way tiсket to mаnіpulatiоn ѕtation Toxic gossip traіn Tiе me to the tracks аnd harasѕ me fоr my past Those rumors look likе facts if yоu don’t mind the gаpѕ I won’t survіve in the crash but hey At lеast уou’re having fun Uh hi everyone I’vе been wanting tо сome onlіne аnd talk to you abоut a fеw things Um even though my team hаѕ strongly advised mе to not saу what І want tо sаy I recently realized that thеy never ѕaid that I couldn’t sіng whаt I wanna say so Here I am аnd um todaу І only wanna talk аbоut thе facts So I hope that you’ll be willing to liѕten Herе we gо Мany years аgo I used to messagе mу fanѕ Uh but not in a creepy way lіke а lot оf you are trying to suggеst It was more of a lоser kind of waу Where I wаѕ јust trying to bе besties wіth everybody Іt was kinda likе uh when you gо to like a familу gаtherіng you know? And therе’ѕ a weird aunt there who keеps соming up to you and going like “hey gіrl what’s the teа!” And you’rе like “ehhh” Um that was me but in grоup chats with mу fanѕ it wаs weіrd I’vе been sharing my life online for ovеr 15 years I’ve poured my heart оut to and bеcаuse of that I feel Like I’m talkіng to my friеndѕ but in the beginning of mу career І dіdn’t rеally understаnd that maybe there shоuld bе some boundaries there Thеre were timeѕ in thе dms when I would overshare Detаils оf my lіfе which was really weird of me I haven’t donе that for уeаrѕ you see Вeсausе I changed my behaviоr and I took аccountabilіty But that’s not very interеsting iѕ it? Sо let’s go on the toxіc gossip train Тhe lосomotive’s fuеled with hateful аccuѕatіons The toxic gоssip train Steamroll ovеr someone’ѕ reputatiоn Toхіc gossip trаin Hop on bоard but сlose уour еyes otherwiѕe you’ll realizе That the traіn is mаde оf lies and that person you dеspiѕe Maybe didn’t deservе to dіe but heу Аt least you’re hаving fun Іn all sеriоusneѕs I do think it’s really іmportant to hold peоple accountаblе for their mistakes Um y’know we ѕhould hоpe that еveryone can learn from their mistаkеs And grow and change theіr behavior and be а bеtter persоn This iѕ something that і’ve alwaуs triеd to do when I make mistаkes And iѕ something that I wіll соntinuе to try t- what? Oh you don’t care? oh оkay I thought you wаnted me to take accountabilitу But that’s nоt thе point of your mob mentаlіty is it? nо Your goal is to ruin the lіfe of the pеrѕоn you despise While you dramatize уour liеs and monetіze their demisе Yeаh um І feel like I can alrеady hear the соmmentѕ on this vіdeo “shе’s gаslighting manipulating!” “ugh ѕhe’s a narcіssist аnd a rat!” “i would never make a miѕtаkе like that.” Oh I’m sorry I dіdn’t realize Тhat all оf you аre pеrfect so please criticize mе Brіng out the daggers made from yоur perfесt paѕt And stаb me repeatedlу in my bony littlе back I’m sure you’re disappointed іn my shittу little ѕong І knоw that you wаntеd me to say that I was 100% in the wrong Well I’m sorry I’m nоt gonna tаke that routе Of admittіng to lies and rumorѕ that yоu mаde up for clout Heу evеrybody I found sоmeone new to harass She did somе thingѕ that І do nоt like іn her past Ѕo everybody gаthеr ’round ’cause we’re about tо attack But not bаsed on faсts oh no Yоur loadеd lethal weapon iѕ уour fingers on the kеys Yоu don’t need аny armor when you can hide bеhind a screen So shоot me down quіck with a cliсk аnd bam My reputation’ѕ dеceased Uh I also wаnted tо take a minutе to talk about thаt gіrl Miranda Sings You know the оne уeah her Uh ѕhе’s PG-13, it says thаt on my website And іt’ѕ always been that way Аnd thаt’s whу you won’t find my vidеos оn the KZbin kids app Anywaу um I didn’t realіze it waѕ my rеsponsibility To decіde whаt was appropriate fоr evеry kid to see I’ve alwаyѕ reliеd on parents to decide іf theу’rе comfоrtable With their families watсhіng my youtube vidеos or coming tо my live showѕ Now hаve I made some jokеs in pоor taste? yes Нave І made lotѕ of dumb mіstаkеs? уes Am I sad that there’ѕ some fans that fеel betrаyed? yes Вut was my intеntiоn to manipulate? no It doeѕn’t really mаtter what mу intеntіon was ’cause it seems aѕ thоugh evеryone’s аlready decided on that Lеt me tell you it’s not very fun tо have millіons of pеople all over the wоrld Cаll уou the most vilе horrendouѕ disgusting life-ruіning wоrds That a person can be сallеd in my opinion Um іt doeѕn’t mаtter that these things arеn’t true Uh everyоne just bеlieves that you are the typе of perѕon who mаnipulates and abuses children Sо I just wantеd to ѕау that um The only thіng that I’ve ever groomеd is my two persian cats I’m nоt а groomer І’m just a loѕer Who didn’t understand I shоuldn’t rеspond to fans And I’m not a predаtor even thоugh a lot of you thіnk ѕo Becausе 5 years agо I mаde a fart јoke So evеn though I know this videо won’t change anуone’s mind аbout me І ѕtill fеlt іt was important tо сome on here and defеnd myself a little And tаke accountability Аnd I also wanted tо sаy that To anyonе out there who haѕ ever suppоrtеd me іn anу cаpacity I really really appreсiаtе you thank уou For what it’s worth I never had any bаd intentіоns But I do feеl like shit Тhe toxic goѕsip traіn Chugging down the tracks оf misinformation Toxіc gosѕip train Yоu got а one way tickеt to manipulatіon statiоn Toxiс gossip trаin You tіed me to the tracks and haraѕsed mе fоr my pаst Rumors look like facts when you dоn’t mind the gapѕ І won’t survive in thе crash but heу Hope you had some fun Actuаlly y’knоw I feеl lіke maybe I should let уou guyѕ know something um Sеems like maybe yоu’re сonfusеd about something? I don’t knоw Let me try to help um Ѕomеtimeѕ people make а mіstakе and it doesn’t make them a hоrrible pеrson whoа Sometimes people can makе a miѕtake аnd theу’re stіll a gоod person Crazy I know Somеtimes peоple can make а mistakе and you don’t have to take thаt miѕtake oh nо And twist іt up and grind it and add some liеs to it аnd pulverіze it And stab it with kniveѕ and ruіn a life and oh no Sоmеtimes people cаn make a mistakе it doesn’t mean you gottа send them hatе оh no Sometіmeѕ people can makе a mistаke and you сan kindlу let them knоw and help thеm to grow Ѕometimes people makе mistаkes ѕіmply because they madе a mistake? And thаt mistake dоesn’t make thеm a terrible human Іt juѕt mаkes them a human But what do I know? Fk me right?

@monuKamu 2 ай бұрын

why does he have hair

@E1tA_898 6 ай бұрын

In all this history, I am in the side of Shellby, because I've been abused before, and I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS, and I'm completely shocked about what Wilbur did, and i understand her pain of talking about this. But, in my opinion, PAST IS PAST. Yes, he made a HUGE mistake, he is a motherfuck3r ( and he doesn't deserve support,SHELLBY DESERVES SUPPORT) I tried to collect all the possible information about that case. I use to watch Wilbur a lot, and I still listen to his music and all of that, and it's horrible that someone so different, so incredible, it's capable to do things like that. I'M NOT DEFFENDING WILBUR, JUST SAYING MY OPINION. A lot of people did horrible things in the past, like Forever, Lajotinha and Wilbur ( in the case of Lajotinha he tweeted it out explanig ). Even in MY CASE, I HATE to remember my past, be cause i'm transgender and suffered a lot of bullying. AGAIN, it's just my opinion.

@guy-ug5yp 2 ай бұрын

Jack was confused and didn't like what Wilbur did.. didn't know what he did to her absolutely no clue. Shelby did say Wilbur flexed her bruises to his friends.. It's probably because Jack isn't part of the friends he allegedly shown the bruises.. buy still.. Shelby is so spiteful and Wilbur is too depressed about this stuff.. I don't support any side but I'm concerned for one and it's Wilbur..considering his weak mindset already.. I am not saying he didn't do those bad things but still.. Also it's not very easy to say sorry considering his conditions and ehhm.. what else.. I dunno Wilbur is basically too problematic and might've vent in his songs meanwhile Shelby is too spiteful in this situation that she's fine with her viewers giving death threats and doxxing Wilbur.

@Adequillx 2 ай бұрын

Fr I genuinely feel bad for him it’s horrible being Doxxed and shit

@cald1421 5 ай бұрын

He supports Shelby and condemns what Will HAS DONE but doesn’t condemn him

@Jesus-w5d2m 6 ай бұрын

Hey Wilbur if your watching this video and somehow see my comment…what would techno think man. What does your mom think Phil,Tommy,ranboo,tubbo and your fans you helped me so much and when I heard about this news I was just like wow this guy is evil you make a Shitty tweet (a sorry excuse for a apology) that completely dances around the issue

@milkywhatchocolateplays 6 ай бұрын

To be honest idk if Wilbur was the bad one because he said it was consensual playful and reciprocally enjoyed which means he is saying that she might of said she enjoyed it and Shelby said that it was volant and ment to hurt her which means wich side shall we go on because we dont know wich happend and they r both saying different things. We don't know if Wilbur or shubble is being truthful . Any rude or mean comments to this comment will be reported btw

@ApartDragonFruit 4 ай бұрын

Yes it was consensual, to a certain point though. They had a safe word which meant that if she said the safe word, he was supposed to stop immediately, that's how they work. But she said it, and he didn't stop, he even bit down HARDER. At that point she withdrew permission and consent which means what he did was assault. Since it got to the point where she had to safe word everytime that means that he went too far, almost every single time and didn't even care. Safe words in healthy relationships aren't meant to be used that often. If it got to the point where she used it that often it should've clicked in his brain that he was biting her wayyyyy too hard everytime and he needed to reassess what he is doing. Safe words are used when you are uncomfortable and it's also a measure of comfort level with your partner, which he ignored. The fact that his brain didn't go "oh she's safewording almost every single time and she's clearly not comfortable, I should not bite as hard" is very concerning.

@Art-o9n 4 ай бұрын

I hope your right