Glíma: Icelandic Grappling (with

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Jackson Crawford

Jackson Crawford

Күн бұрын

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@connorperrett9559
@connorperrett9559 Жыл бұрын
Jackson Crawford, Ian McCollum, and Hurstwic is not a triple crossover event I'd ever have expected.
@anneonymous4884
@anneonymous4884 Жыл бұрын
The crossover we need, not the one we deserve.
@jewishswordsman9199
@jewishswordsman9199 Жыл бұрын
Saw this on Bill Shorts page. Good stuff. On another note: I have dislocated 4 ribs doing Scottish Backhold which is similar in setup. I can imagine the fun this would be. Now excuse me while I note to do this if I ever go to Iceland.
@iLLeag7e
@iLLeag7e Жыл бұрын
Dr. Crawford shows up in my feed often. As a Colorado native I appreciate what he does. It makes sense that Ian would make this connection; I'm sure that his travels in Finland have given him a reason to study the language. this is cool
@OtherlingQueen
@OtherlingQueen Жыл бұрын
Seeing Jackson and Ian hold each other like that is the climax of KZbin content.
@problematic7993
@problematic7993 Жыл бұрын
I climaxed anyway
@andrebighach
@andrebighach Жыл бұрын
you know that moment in nature where two organic structures that for millions of years remain separate until for the first time they conjugate into a new form changing the stratum of existence until the end of life itself like how red and blue become purple and 999 becomes 1000.......
@o.3464
@o.3464 Жыл бұрын
Not only the climax of KZbin content. A climax in every sense of that word.
@andrebighach
@andrebighach Жыл бұрын
@@o.3464 ooo,ooO it's happening OOOOOOOOO(!*@$@*!) rorschachgasm.
@Aalienik
@Aalienik Жыл бұрын
You're probably legitimately both in the top 100 foreign Glima practicioners, so there's that.
@bragigeirdalgufinnsson2432
@bragigeirdalgufinnsson2432 Жыл бұрын
As an Icelander I would like to thank you for not making fun of our national sport 😅
@AveryBlueRemix
@AveryBlueRemix Жыл бұрын
Ayo this what my girl does to me when we slow dancing and I say her breath stink 😁
@brandtmunk2492
@brandtmunk2492 Жыл бұрын
As an American looking to relearn my Scandinavian heritage, I'm just happy you guys keep it alive.
@jimmywells33
@jimmywells33 Жыл бұрын
This is to be respected, not ridiculed...brother. Glad to see it being carried forward.
@johanmetreus1268
@johanmetreus1268 Жыл бұрын
What is there to make fun of?!
@scatman8963
@scatman8963 Жыл бұрын
@@brandtmunk2492 😂
@nivlacyevips
@nivlacyevips Жыл бұрын
Ian’s greatest attribute other than his patience, observation and articulation…humility…and grace.
@Sercer25
@Sercer25 Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna get on your knees for him too?
@wulfgreyhame6857
@wulfgreyhame6857 Жыл бұрын
It bears more than a passing resemblance to Cumberland wrestling in England. The Lake District is often considered to be the most Scandinavianised part of Britain, in terms of place-names and dialect.
@111flitz1111
@111flitz1111 Жыл бұрын
Cumberland and Backhold wrestling (Scotland) are nearly identical. The Glíma association has held Backhold competitions before as well as sending groups annually to the UK to compete in Cumberland and Backhold wrestling.
@ilyashapovalenko6789
@ilyashapovalenko6789 Жыл бұрын
Glima is very reminiscent of german medieval wrestling called Ringen. It is also about balance, grapling, using parts of wardrobe for leverage. Of course they are different in how they look, but still. I imagine Judo was like this too when it just appeared.
@Rbajter
@Rbajter Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this sport is still practiced in its original form on Gotland (Sweden) and is known as “ryggkast”, back-throw. Used to be common all over the nordics.
@stayhungry1503
@stayhungry1503 Жыл бұрын
i have the feeling it was made to be like this to avoid it turning into actual fighting in the old days when people always had edged weapons on them or nearby and killed each other to the left and right over minor squabbles. if you just have a free for all wrestling, not to mention boxing, it can very easily turn into a real fight especially if the guys dont particularly like each other and there is no real law around. but when its like this its much more controlled and perhaps less likely to escalate. just a thought from a long time martial arts practitioner and amateur historian.
@ilyashapovalenko6789
@ilyashapovalenko6789 Жыл бұрын
@@stayhungry1503 for sure, and really it's too easy to injure someone in a fistfight or some kind of super aggressive wrestling and that's no good if you have fields to work) plus if we look at it from the point of some practical applicability, like in a military or self-defence setting 1) opponent will be wearing some form of belt fore sure so why not to use it 2) if you put opponent on the ground he is out fore good (especially in military context he's gonna get speared or something)
@stayhungry1503
@stayhungry1503 Жыл бұрын
@@ilyashapovalenko6789 yeah good point about injuries
@FellsApprentice
@FellsApprentice Жыл бұрын
Glima is just a more successful (not as lost to history) regional varient of Ringen. Ringen is more of a catch all term for European stand up wrestling that isn't based in Greco-Roman roots.
@gudea5207
@gudea5207 Жыл бұрын
Glíma most resembles Judo and Sumo to me. Much of it seems to like up with the ashi-waza (the foot techniques) of Judo along with that kind of pop up trip that resembles the opening of an ura nage (akin to the suplex). The belt, although not treated the same by the rules, is comprable to the muwashi loin cloth of sumo wrestlers.
@limp_dickens
@limp_dickens Жыл бұрын
It looks a lot like judo to me too. The "combat waltz" thing that Ian mentioned I think is a good description of those foot techniques that they share. I think if you told some glima guys to hold each other by the wrist and collar instead of the belt then you would end up with something virtually identical to judo.
@SmokeyJembe
@SmokeyJembe Жыл бұрын
This is just one of the sport versions of glima, other styles are mostly different to each other. Traditional glima doesn't use a belt and resembles more of a judo-jujistu/Greco-freestyle wrestling approach.
@IncredibleMD
@IncredibleMD 8 ай бұрын
The formality, ritual, and mentality behind it also seems very similar to sumo, in essence if not form.
@Kinotaurus
@Kinotaurus Жыл бұрын
You just need to imagine two armed opponents, with a sword on a belt. You clinch each other preventing from drawing the sword, until one ends up on the ground and gets stabbed.
@kentallard8852
@kentallard8852 Жыл бұрын
no they would start with swords drawn and eventually they would have their swords binded together and they'd be close enough to grapple - at which point they'd grab their opponent by the jacket or hips
@torg2126
@torg2126 Жыл бұрын
@@kentallard8852 The dramatic sword binding thing would be pure Hollywood, but it was a thing on stage in Shakespeare's time. Any dramatic sword bind would end with the other guy getting cut down, right from the bind. Skalagrim has a video on it.
@kentallard8852
@kentallard8852 Жыл бұрын
@@torg2126 its not binding is in the manuals, hollywood doesn't depict anything like what they did
@torg2126
@torg2126 Жыл бұрын
@@kentallard8852 You don't have two people lock swords, and dramatically push on each others blades, in reality. In reality, one of the people locking blades would immediately pivot on the other blade, and through a cut from that posation. The level of grappling depicted in this martal art only makes sense if neither person is armed at the moment, probably because they lost their spears, and are too close to draw langsaxes without putting themselves into a disadvantaged posation. Therefore, the point of the excercise is to put the other man down, and then draw your backup to end them.
@MuriKakari
@MuriKakari Жыл бұрын
that's what I was thinking!
@rosstapson
@rosstapson Жыл бұрын
I am loving this collaboration, there cannot be enough Ian and Jackson bromance.
@paulaunger3061
@paulaunger3061 Жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish Жыл бұрын
Commenting just to say that thumbnail of horizontal blurry Ian getting tossed is so funny to me, love it
@pfdrtom
@pfdrtom Жыл бұрын
I love both these guys! I had no idea until recently that they even knew each other. Like an early Christmas!
@VermisTerrae
@VermisTerrae Жыл бұрын
This looks so fun. Also, magnificent cardigans! Despite knitting 15 years or more, I've never actually attempted a sweater or something similar. But these certainly inspire me to try when I can next get my hands on some nice wool.
@sir313jonsson
@sir313jonsson Жыл бұрын
Yo go for it, just find a recipe you like and start
@VermisTerrae
@VermisTerrae Жыл бұрын
@@sir313jonsson I have a few patterns saved, but your right that a recipe is the way to go. Next time I can drop $100 or so on yarn! 😸
@fourshore502
@fourshore502 Жыл бұрын
in iceland and norway those are very common
@chuckoaks6756
@chuckoaks6756 Жыл бұрын
Having Norwegian friends and being Norwegian myself I could swear they were dancing until one of them hit the ground.
@onkelpappkov2666
@onkelpappkov2666 Жыл бұрын
With alcohol involved, where is the difference?
@theanonymousmrgrape5911
@theanonymousmrgrape5911 Жыл бұрын
As somebody who wrestled for years in school, it’s interesting just how different Glima is from ordinary, Olympic style wrestling. The wrestlers don’t get down into a stance, and there’s not really any shooting, or maneuvering to control of the opponent’s head or arms. Very interesting and unique sport.
@DruEllz
@DruEllz Жыл бұрын
I'd say using the term "wrestling" is more accurate. "Grappling" generally refers to techniques used on the floor. Glima looks very similar to Schwingen, or Swiss wrestling. There are also numerous different folk wrestling styles here in the UK which are close but use the "back hold" rather than "belt hold".
@adrianmcmahon5731
@adrianmcmahon5731 Жыл бұрын
Elements of it reminded me of what I've seen of Mongolian wrestling but it's unique enough to look like entirely its own thing. I like how the sparring changed a lot depending on whether it was two men, male/female or two women. The skill and interplay of power & speed was very intriguing to watch as most mixed sex martial arts get unbalanced very fast. The rule restraints obviously seem to mitigate size & weight advantages pretty well.
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 Жыл бұрын
similar too to Inuit wrestling more than Greco-Roman wrestling
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 Жыл бұрын
i think the most unique thing about it, is it is really more of a game than anything else i have seen.
@ziloj-perezivat
@ziloj-perezivat Жыл бұрын
сумо
@phaserrifle3
@phaserrifle3 Жыл бұрын
It's putting me in mind of some of the local British forms of wrestling. Most notably Cornish (again, all standing, goal is to throw your opponent to the ground)
@khajiitkitten5679
@khajiitkitten5679 Жыл бұрын
DR JACKSON C--I WANT YOUR SWEATER! Bring a bunch back and sell them here in the states. Icelandics are the best! And yes, this is a wonderful technique! Very interesting.
@Stephen_Curtin
@Stephen_Curtin Жыл бұрын
it's interesting that you questioned whether glima should be considered "wrestling" or if a something like "grappling" would be a better description. If you look at 18th and 19th century dictionaries, wrestling is usually defined by throws and takedowns, and grappling better describes the groundwork we think of today as wrestling. In the late 1800s / early 1900s Greco Roman and Catch as Catch Can became the dominant wrestling styles overtaking many old styles which, like glima, had no groundwork. This is why today most people associate the word wrestling with grappling on the ground, rather than something like glima.
@casthedemon
@casthedemon Жыл бұрын
Well actually wrestling is specifically grappling applied in combat. So this is wrestling. Whereas grappling doesn't have a combative association specifically. It just means "to hook."
@Stephen_Curtin
@Stephen_Curtin Жыл бұрын
@@casthedemon I'll have to disagree with you there; the word "wrestling" doesn't necessarily have to involve combat. It comes from an Old English word which meant twisting or turning. Eventually it became pretty much synonymous with words like striving / struggling, and could be applied to anything from full on combat to friendly sport to wrestling with thoughts or ideas. The point I was trying to make above however was more to do with the fact that glima is very much in line with the concept of wrestling from before the 20th.
@Stephen_Curtin
@Stephen_Curtin Жыл бұрын
Also I mentioned old dictionaries in my OP to illustrate my point, but I didn't gives any examples which I should have. Here's one from Samuel Johnson's To wrestle: 1) to contend who shall throw the other down 2) to struggle; to contend This is just one I thought of off the top of my head and could find quickly, but I've come across many other examples. Notice that, as I said, wrestling is defined by throwing rather than groundwork.
@casthedemon
@casthedemon Жыл бұрын
@@Stephen_Curtin wrestling comes from wrestle. Which is an old word and old concept. Wrestle comes from wrest. But they're seperate things and wrestling IS specifically about combat/sport. Also, the thinking that wrestling only means ground work is a ubiquitous definition, is flawed. For example, high school wrestling, Judo, and plenty of other arts aren't all about ground game. Much of those arts are geared towards taking your opponent to the ground, throws, etc. Plenty of people would see Glima as wrestling. Including classical wrestlers.
@Stephen_Curtin
@Stephen_Curtin Жыл бұрын
@@casthedemon ok this discussion seems to be going in circles so I'll just say this. Perhaps I've communicated my point to you poorly, if so my bad, but I don't disagree with the idea that styles which concentrate on standing grappling rather than groundwork were considered "wrestling" by most people prior to fairy recent times; in fact I've argued the opposite. I was merely responding to Dr Crawford's comment about glima which questioned whether it is wrestling or not. I believe that this questioning is the result of a modern viewpoint, and that before about 1900, glima is very much inline with most people's concept of what wrestling is. Hope this clears things up.
@Stormhawk777
@Stormhawk777 Жыл бұрын
Love that my 2 favorite internet fact daddies are besties
@cameronnorton5898
@cameronnorton5898 Жыл бұрын
Those ladies are strong as hell the way they can lift their opponents so high and so swiftly.
@ysakoko
@ysakoko Жыл бұрын
There's tons of comparison to Sumo and Judo here in the comments, but everyone should look up Ssireum(씨름) from Korea. Its extremely similar, with the same belted grips, one around the thigh and one at the hips. There's a pretty large professional circuit in South Korea with tons of matches here on youtube to check out. I would love to see some of these guys visit South Korea for some friendly matches or vice versa.
@benitoharrycollmann132
@benitoharrycollmann132 Жыл бұрын
It thrills and astounds me to see that the tradition of wrestling/grappling is one carried forward by almost every culture in nearly all corners of the globe. Thank you guys for sharing this specific style of such a widespread sport. It truly unites us all through our most primal human nature. The gripping of the belts almost reminds me of sumo wrestling, insofar as they grip the mawashi, or loincloth, to use for leverage.
@remen_emperor
@remen_emperor Жыл бұрын
Something I love about grappling and possibly wrestling is how much information you can get from your opponent's body without ever needing to see anything. I don't know about the belts, but once you have a clue of what you're doing, you can genuinely predict what your opponent is going to do purely based on feeling the tension or relaxation of muscle groups I haven't had formal grappling or wrestling training, mind you. My experience is based on job usage that I had to learn and figure out basically without training
@elizabethford7263
@elizabethford7263 Жыл бұрын
And THIS is the new thing I learned today! My world is bigger now 🌍
@froer9877
@froer9877 Жыл бұрын
the closeness would only be wierd to us modern people and only those who have not grappled at all or even played sport maybe. its a common reaction to bjj and wrestling etc which fades fast as you get in to it. i have limited grappling experience but i get the game part of it. if you have something to hold on to in grappling it changes everything and you have to trick your opponent or rather catch him of guard. i found this realy interesting. We still use the word bragd in swedish. I think Feat is a good translation.
@Cbr0749
@Cbr0749 Жыл бұрын
I have only heard "Bragd" being used as feat or deed in Faroese. had to check the dictionary, and sure enough. Bragd= feat,deed,exploit,trick,gimmick,ploy or Gambit when used in the context of chess.
@jthompson8177
@jthompson8177 Жыл бұрын
I find this interesting in that it seems so rigid and sport based but there is a practicality to it that some modern martial arts don't have, you really won't shoot a leg or want to be on the ground or lean over in a stance in the majority of practical situations as it leaves you vulnerable. I know in military close combat they generally teach a more upright stance as the goal is to go back to the weapon or gun. I may be reading too much into it though
@matthewlawrenson2734
@matthewlawrenson2734 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Judo and Aikido have parallel for me but this is very individual. Centre based! With the ability to take their mind and then centre. Internal grappling arts that are unique to Iceland. Very cool. Awesome to see this culture. Many thanks.
@scottmacgregor3444
@scottmacgregor3444 Жыл бұрын
Oh AWESOME. I haven't done it in a while, but I used to do Glima as part of my HEMA journey. Hopefully I can do it again before long. Good on you guys.
@AmarothEng
@AmarothEng Жыл бұрын
Just starting with some one handed swordfighting lessons, although I have a fair bit if experience in unarmed combat prior to that. The notion of not really seeing what the opponent does, but having to just "feel" it is a very familiar concept. The issue with combat at such close distance is that you don't get time to see what the opponent does and then react to it. That's luxury you have when you are at a distance when you need to make a step to be able to reach the opponent. At this close distance, you have to keep contact with the opponent to feel their weight, limbs or weapons shift, which, together with experience, gives you information about what they are likely to be doing next. If you can't process this information in a proactiev way, you are about to be too slow to react, as the opponents advantage (initiative) will get the better of you. It's easy to understand why a sport like this would develop out of the combat style so heavily based on large shields and very tight formations, which were very important right until the armor became good enough to be at least a semi-reliable defense against ranged weapons (and then until that ceased being the case again). The idea of "back and forth fighting" over very direct and agressive techniques sounds to me like perception skewed by flashy Hollywood scenes. Real fighting, especially armed, is very direct, to the point (no pun intended), and this clearly comes from the same spirit. The "rhytmic" movement is just a natural tempo any combat takes, if there are no arbitrary tempo-affecting rules in play, that is. Together with distance and the ability to put actual strength into the techniques, it makes the basics of any combat sytem. Jiu jitsu is a fun comparison, because that art is a very fine demonostration of "nothing seems to be happening, while everything is happening", and that is the very definition of the mastery of the biomechanics - the ability to put actual strength (of the entire body) into technicqus (while minimal effort is used and shown) I mentioned earlier.
@semperliberi
@semperliberi Жыл бұрын
Props to the Icelandic people for working hard to preserve their culture.
@onkelpappkov2666
@onkelpappkov2666 Жыл бұрын
The most poetically waxed way to say "people do sports and so the sports are done".
@bjarnitryggvason7866
@bjarnitryggvason7866 Жыл бұрын
Now that's a farewell greeting! I've always immensely enjoyed glíma whenever I've tried it.
@KickyFut
@KickyFut Жыл бұрын
Seeing Ian in a video, talking about hand-to-hand combat and melee weapons, and not even *mentioning* guns for 22 minutes is a unique and interesting thing! Great video, very informative! I find the concept of glíma a strange and uncomfortable art, but that's just because I'm more familiar with kicking and striking from much more distance.
@thoraro
@thoraro Жыл бұрын
Holy crap! Gun-Jesus in Iceland. Sadly, there was little shooting I presume. The woollies look good on both of you. Content cossover made in heaven
@jordanjoestar9096
@jordanjoestar9096 Жыл бұрын
I love glima tbh it's one of my favorite combat sports I wish more places taught it.
@Wingy102
@Wingy102 Жыл бұрын
Loving the diversification of topics and giving it a red hot go. I think the closest looking in philosophy and style to glima is Irish collar and elbow. If you are keen you can find information from "hero of a thousand holds" and "headhunterhiggins" youtube channels.
@connorperrett9559
@connorperrett9559 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget The Rambling Kern.
@melissahdawn
@melissahdawn Жыл бұрын
I wondered when I first started studying Glima about wresting when the ground is snowy, I like the extension of riddles and balance to maintaining a well-rounded being (meaning play chess to exercise your brain but don't neglect your body). Also, Ian mentioned the relationship to sword and axe combat, this would be a less fatal way to practice.
@samuelemeryjiujitsu
@samuelemeryjiujitsu Жыл бұрын
12:35 is such a beautiful sequence
@bootshockley2072
@bootshockley2072 Жыл бұрын
My first time seeing Glima, it would make sense this is a Scandinavian way of fighting. Many sources claim that Vikings/Scandinavian warriors liked to get buckle to buckle when fighting. They were known for their aggression like many champion boxers who like to get inside and go to work. Take someone who has become disarmed in battle, they can get in close and grab their opponent by the belt and codpiece and try for distance it would be a formative move. Not that I'm advocating Anglo-Saxon tossing as a sport.
@TuskKult
@TuskKult Жыл бұрын
What an incredible and beautiful tradition! I really hope Icelanders add the fuel of their time, energy and dedication to the searing bed of embers of this combat sport we got to see here displaying their prowess. Her recovery at 11:26 from that throw was genuinely impressive, I had to re-watch that multiple times to fully take in what was happening to understand and appreciate it! The overall bodily-kinesthetic intelligence and footwork displayed here is absolutely phenomenal.
@tanya_thivier9
@tanya_thivier9 Жыл бұрын
It’s not really practiced anymore. It used to be a game played by men only.
@111flitz1111
@111flitz1111 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, adults compete (and usually practice) on wood floors. It is a more slippery surface than the mats seen here, which really changes the dynamic of the style. The footwork therefore has to be fairly precise or else you might slip when you come back to the ground after an airborne defensive position.
@withoutfurtheradoforever
@withoutfurtheradoforever Жыл бұрын
@Eva Dögg Jóhannsdóttir It's really beautiful to watch.
@AllahuSnackbar270
@AllahuSnackbar270 Жыл бұрын
Looking at 11:26 and reading your comment I had an epiphany. It's fairly easy to stay up in theory, you can always anchor yourself to your opponent, who doesn't want to fall. Tiny mistakes make a huge difference.
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 Жыл бұрын
@@AllahuSnackbar270 no no you'll break your fingers, don't do that.
@DrFrankenskippy
@DrFrankenskippy Жыл бұрын
Good to see the Glima presentation thx. There's 'combat glima' worth a nosey too by a guy called Lars Magnar Enoksen who has some amazing vid's on youTube showing Glima in a more realistic (less sport geared) fighting grappling POV and I like the logic of how the winner is the one who gets back on his/her feet as given a battlefield situation or even modern day multiple opponent milieu ground fighting would leave you open to being stabbed or cut down.
@Eulemunin
@Eulemunin Жыл бұрын
Very cool. The weird look seems to me to be a training tool about timing. All the movement reminds of HEMA grappling at the sword. Especially the balance and feel from the opponent through the belt. Not unlike the feel through feders in a bind.
@sbejoh
@sbejoh Жыл бұрын
this is a type of content i didn`t think i needed. i`ve been following Ian for many years.. but now i`m hooked on Jacksons channel. seen 3-4 vid so far. his content is really good. Thank u Jackson (and Ian) Greetings from Alta Norway
@CHMichael
@CHMichael Жыл бұрын
They look like brothers.
@DevonSmart
@DevonSmart 3 ай бұрын
That is a lot of fun to watch! The harness is flattering and its very elegant, a true martial art!
@SaturnineAberrance
@SaturnineAberrance Жыл бұрын
Lots of comments mentioning similarities to Mongolian wrestling - also some similarities to sumo wrestling where belt grips are very important. There's no requirement that a belt grip always be maintained in sumo, though.
@einarbolstad8150
@einarbolstad8150 Жыл бұрын
Best sign-off so far.
@nicknucks661
@nicknucks661 Жыл бұрын
Judo meets Mongolian wrestling. So awesome. Badass as hell these folks are keeping this art alive.
@flowermeerkat6827
@flowermeerkat6827 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I see that men and women can face off together. It seems like it's a sport that is more about quickness than about brute strength. I love the sweaters you guys are wearing btw!
@Ca11mero
@Ca11mero Жыл бұрын
You can see in one of the clips that even though the big guy got a lot more strength than the girl, every time he tries to throw her, she balances forward (towards him) so he can't make the throw. Looks very interesting
@connorperrett9559
@connorperrett9559 Жыл бұрын
This appeared to be just training. I'd imagine that actual competition would have sex based divisions and probably weight based divisions as well. At my Judo club men and women do randori together, but actual competition is divided by sex, weight, and age.
@Skoopyghost
@Skoopyghost 15 күн бұрын
One of the most fun things to do is to pick up your opponent above your head. I used to do it as a kid when we praticed glíma.
@zwinmar21
@zwinmar21 Жыл бұрын
In some ways it reminds me of a balance game we played as kids: Put a food forward opponent puts same foot touching along the outer edge (his to yours) grab the opponents hand , the same side as foot, now try to pull each other off balance, your feet cannot move.
@irishpsalteri
@irishpsalteri Жыл бұрын
A challenge is that so many people want the martial arts to be 'practical and tactical' and not about learning what the discipline can teach you. This is fascinating. Jujitsu is a good comp.
@ofnair
@ofnair Жыл бұрын
Very interesting regarding the word drengur being such an honorific. In modern Swedish the word "dräng" just means farmhand, and afaik in Danish it means simply "boy".
@joelmattsson9353
@joelmattsson9353 Жыл бұрын
Semantic drift can take you by surprise, for sure. 'Bragd' meaning 'trick' caught me off guard, but it makes a weird kind of sense
@themanhimself1229
@themanhimself1229 Жыл бұрын
@@joelmattsson9353 I think Icelandic hasn't had much linguistic drift, so that would be from y'all.
@shaundoesnotprovideidentif3461
@shaundoesnotprovideidentif3461 Жыл бұрын
Re. the "ground game" vs. "getting to ground". If you are armed and armored -grappling is a very real thing. But people aren't choking each other out on a contemporaneous battle field. You can very easily see the initial throw and that advantage being prioritized. You can close in to make the weapon irrelevant, then you can throw, and make it relevant again with you in the advantage. Now that's descended into a dance-step formalism, and no argument there. A lot of traditional martial arts have descended into a similar dance-step formalism over time. But "throw them down, stay standing" thing? I get it, I think?
@samueljohansson2025
@samueljohansson2025 11 ай бұрын
The thing about the dance step thing is that in order to effectively throw someone who doesn't want to be thrown you really want them to move and time it, you can't sweep the feet when someone is standing on them for instance, that's just kicking them in the shin.
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 Жыл бұрын
The thing that surprised me the most is the male to female ratio, I've never seen so many women grappling, in striking arts maybe but this is a first time.
@nivekje
@nivekje Жыл бұрын
I did this today at our HEMA club day and it was fun to learn. Easy idea of what can happen but so tricky to master.
@erin4841
@erin4841 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me so much of ssireum, an ancient form of Korean grappling. Fascinating to see the similarities created unknowingly so far away from each other.
@darlebalfoort8705
@darlebalfoort8705 Жыл бұрын
Well, the sweaters are beautiful.
@faramund9865
@faramund9865 Жыл бұрын
Exactly the kind of video I was looking for, nice stuff boys!
@magicsharkwizard4577
@magicsharkwizard4577 Жыл бұрын
Modern Icelandic glíma was basically created in the early 20th century when they outlawed lausatök and started to use tight fitting spandex making the "belt" necessary. Before that people just used their day to day clothes, which were well made at home, and for a short period they even used Judo-like uniforms. But then came the spandex fashion which hasn't left since. But glíma is also the game. Fang is the original fighting art which includes both all the fangbrögð from glíma as well as lausatök
@johanmetreus1268
@johanmetreus1268 Жыл бұрын
Lausatök ? Here Enokssen must have missed something in the Viking art of combat. Where can I learn more about this and about fangbrögð?
@jimrodarmel8512
@jimrodarmel8512 Жыл бұрын
Sounds very similar to the invention of Judo, also early 20th century, as a safer sport alternative to jujitsu competitions that were causing a lot of serious injuries in older boys and young men.
@jimrodarmel8512
@jimrodarmel8512 Жыл бұрын
@@johanmetreus1268 Probably if you get in contact with a Glima team and put out feelers, some of the participants may have started investigating the roots and may put you in contact with historical resources.
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 Жыл бұрын
Why did this not become more popular worldwide? I did both Jujitsu and kung-fu and in both those martial arts there was love and respect for partner style dancing. I think most of the people I knew there would be over the moon to try Glima (don't have the special I) . Thanks for sharing this with the wider world. Also, I did not expect Ian here. Lovely when an unexpected crossover happens.
@ysakoko
@ysakoko Жыл бұрын
You should look up Ssireum(씨름) from Korea. Its the same belt grips as you see here in Glima, and there's a fairly large professional circuit in south korea with tons of matches you can watch here on youtube. There's also mongolian bokh wrestling where instead of a belt, you grab a sleeveless jacket, but i see tons of similarities between this and glima. I love how humanity has developed these sorts of wrestling styles independently from each other.
@Ca11mero
@Ca11mero Жыл бұрын
I like these collaborations :) you both are fantastic! This for sure looks unique and interesting, would like to try it one day!
@Leon-R2D2
@Leon-R2D2 Жыл бұрын
5:39 Wrestling is the transition from standing up to ground fighting. We do grappling at the ground fighting stage
@geocyclist
@geocyclist Жыл бұрын
Glima reminds me of Shima or Tegumi: Okinawan Grappling in that you start with and must keep your hands on your opponents belt. Tegumi is missing the "dance" aspect though. Thanks for introducing me to another MA!
@danthefrst
@danthefrst Жыл бұрын
What a great and well put together episode! Great thamks
@gubjorggisladottir3525
@gubjorggisladottir3525 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for introducing the "Icelandic glíma".
@Brucesfuckinfoodreviews
@Brucesfuckinfoodreviews Жыл бұрын
Their English is unbelievably good
@alinapopescu872
@alinapopescu872 5 ай бұрын
It looks genuinely interesting. I hope it thrives everywhere in Iceland.
@internationalfishers2367
@internationalfishers2367 Жыл бұрын
Gilma: How to make someone really regret trying to dance with you. 😀
@PoofyKittyPants
@PoofyKittyPants Жыл бұрын
This is the first time seeing it and I can completely see it's combat application and distillation to sport.
@charlymicky1722
@charlymicky1722 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining a bit about this unique and fascinating martial art!
@mcjon77
@mcjon77 Жыл бұрын
I click on a wrestling video and I see Ian. My worlds have collided once again.
@AlozarLorandul
@AlozarLorandul Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that nobody seems to have noticed the similarities between this and Sumo. That was the very first thing I thought of when I saw this. If you go watch some Sumo matches, aside from the ones that are over quickly because somebody gets thrown out of the ring, it's not uncommon for two rikishi to lock on and grapple each other with their hands on their belts and try to throw the opponent to the ground or trip them. Then if you consider that both are small, historic, cultural sports practiced predominantly only in their home country, both by "warrior" cultures... I don't know, seems pretty similar to me! You also see in Sumo a lot of rikishi of varying sizes, and no weight/height classes, just as mentioned here.
@setc12
@setc12 Жыл бұрын
Icelandic tango. The landscape behind you is stunning. Would love to paint it.
@31_bit16
@31_bit16 Жыл бұрын
What a crossover, I can't believe it!
@kimbarator
@kimbarator Жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome -- what a treat !! I heard of glima on my one trip to Iceland, but never imagined that 2 content-creator heroes of mine would join up to explore & demonstrate this incredible "combat waltz" tradition !! Two good sports you are !! 👍👍
@crlkrlf4718
@crlkrlf4718 Жыл бұрын
Its a bout of strenght, or a duel amongst soldiers in down time. So you don't want to hurt the oponent. All of the old rules were to avoid serious injuries. This seems to be partly mordanised.
@urdin2242
@urdin2242 Жыл бұрын
This is the best crossover I’ve ever seen!
@ksbrook1430
@ksbrook1430 Жыл бұрын
Learn something new each day.
@mustafaabdelwahab1478
@mustafaabdelwahab1478 Жыл бұрын
I did infact enjoy two historians attempting to throw each other to the ground using an ancient form of formal grappling
@domdecoco5915
@domdecoco5915 Жыл бұрын
By far the biggest crossover ever
@philosopherboy
@philosopherboy Жыл бұрын
Great video! Love to see the intersection of history and living practice. As an aside, I will say that "wrestling" is probably an equally valid word for this as "grappling" - based on the fact that we often use the word "wresting" to refer to a wide variety of other traditions globally. For a lot of folks in the martial arts, "wrestling" and "grappling" are relatively synonymous when detached from the specific modern traditions in the U.S. - and the way those expectations inform wrestlers internationally. Some people say "wrestling" and mean American freestyle or amateur wrestling, but even the tradition in the U.S. is so much richer than we often remember, with various folk wrestling styles that have more or less faded into obscurity (often deriving from older traditions from elsewhere or, like catch wrestling, from once popular modern styles that have lost traction in recent years). If we look at Sumo, Judo, Greco-Roman, Irish collar-and-elbow, Ssireum, Senegalese wrestling, etc. - we often see rules that are fairly idiosyncratic with some resonating similarities - like touching the ground with anything but your feet will cost you a match or limitations to what parts of the body (or clothes) you can grip. Virtually every culture has some form of wrestling and you see similar principles and techniques arise in different, wildly geographically separated regions. (Only so many ways to move the human body, after all). But as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts - I think maybe my biases make it easier for me to see the similarities and focus on them. To someone from the outside, Glima certainly feels very pretty different than the wrestling we see at the Olympics, for example.
@bonniebailey9574
@bonniebailey9574 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is so cool! I love watching their feet 😮😲
@kmarchery
@kmarchery Жыл бұрын
I am jealous Those are such awesome sweaters
@andrebighach
@andrebighach Жыл бұрын
my man got recognized on the street in iceland, he's an iceland star, becomes a youtuber in america and gets popular in a small unfamiliar country. I really should have seen that coming though, the show is all about nordic life. I find that crazy. my assumption was that the interest in scandinavian behavior was a non-scandinavian behavior, and the people interested in it were the people to whom it was still new or novel to, as well as that in america for example, what kind of person you are, as in what older foreign group of people your body type is from has this huge effect on how you are treated, so I would expect heritage is bigger here than even for the original people themselves. it is ANCIENT scandinavia, so perhaps there is still novelty value in old norse life to modern scandinavians.
@briansorensen5102
@briansorensen5102 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jackson for the introduction. So hard to find information, and this was so enlightening.
@crisgroom3857
@crisgroom3857 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a very honorable contest, I love it.
@someonequiet3365
@someonequiet3365 Жыл бұрын
I think one lesser known grappling style this reminded me of was tegumi, which is a folk wrestling style found in Okinawa. Also some of the leg reaps reminded me of the leg techniques seen in judo, such as osoto gari, kosoto gari, and maybe a front uchimata.
@dr.ratatoskr6233
@dr.ratatoskr6233 Жыл бұрын
I didn"t know they were brothers, i love both of their channels and never thought of it myself... That makes sense and is wonderful!
@casualhitman
@casualhitman Жыл бұрын
Never done combat sports outside of SCA/EMP but wow this looks fun, almost a dance like cadence with the stepping
@blueunicornhere
@blueunicornhere Жыл бұрын
14:16 it's not as weird if you consider a viking on a battlefield that has lost his weapon. Punching an armored opponent hurts your hands. If you are up close grabbing their armor while locking their weapon arm beneath yours he can't hit you. So it makes perfect sense in form and function.
@OldToby53
@OldToby53 9 ай бұрын
Interesting. Im reading Men of Terror by William Short right now and it talks of glima but in pictures. Seeing it done puts it so much more into perspective. It wasnt what I imagined.
@inlikeflynn7238
@inlikeflynn7238 Жыл бұрын
These are two of my favorite youtube content creators, and I had no idea that they even knew each other.
@senordiaz1
@senordiaz1 Жыл бұрын
Pretty similar to Korean folk wrestling (ssireum) and lots of other folk wrestling. I like it
@Correctrix
@Correctrix Жыл бұрын
With the focus on the belt, the grappling art it most resembles is sumo. After that, I’d say traditional Japanese jūjutsu, which incorporates standing strikes, blocks and throws, and only really works on floor-wrestling moves as a way of controlling a thrown opponent, unlike BJJ.
@hattorihanzo2275
@hattorihanzo2275 Жыл бұрын
My host on AirBnB took me to a KR game. He wore the same wool sweater Ian is wearing at the beginning.
@OldieBugger
@OldieBugger Жыл бұрын
And that nicely choreographed ending... Kudos! I had trouble stopping me laughing uncontrollably.
@KaitenKenbu
@KaitenKenbu Жыл бұрын
Mr. crawford shot finnish brutality as well? Impressive. Hope the glima injuries didn't slow you down. I want to see some footage of that.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen Жыл бұрын
It has been up for a month or so.
@KaitenKenbu
@KaitenKenbu Жыл бұрын
@@jameswoodard4304 I watched all of Mr. McCollum's footage, or at least I thought I had. I don't remember seeing Dr. Crawford in them guess I'll have to check again.
@myrlstone8904
@myrlstone8904 Жыл бұрын
@@KaitenKenbu Impressive, yes ! Jackson is skilled in shooting with both the rifle and pistol. He did very well for a first for him Brutality event. He and Ian collaborated on their respective channels giving in detail their experiences in Finland. Both excellent videos. As you can see here, they interact and compliment each other very well.
@NexGenRogue
@NexGenRogue Жыл бұрын
Oh my, a surpising collab but a welcome one!
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