Games That Hide Their Own Sequels

[@JacobGeller]

Tired of spoilers? Would you rather listen to me wax poetic about Peggle? Head on over to Nebula for a whole exclusive video on it! nebula.tv/videos/jacob-geller-peggle-might-be-too-pure-for-2024/

[@moltenclay]

Hey as someone sensitive to spoilers but who utterly adores your content. The firing squad idea for including a blank was brilliant. I won't watch this video until I one of the games on that list, and this was a perfect way to warn us.

[@zaviera-b1617]

The firing squad idea is so brilliant, I'm going to play the full video at low volume so I don't get spoiled but the watch time statistics aren't ruined

[@astronish.]

hey jacob! huge fan here, what are you thoughts on mystery visual novels or have you never tried any?

[@fallout3fan623]

Danganronpa V3 would fit on this list perfectly. You should really play the series, it's a surprising blind spot for you

[@nostopit179]

I've been on a binge of your content recently and halfway through the peggle video I half expected some existential tangent about Iraq or Diogenes, lmao I think it's time for a break.

[@MaybeNotPayton]

"You know how in a firing squad" oh it's Geller time fr

[@Flashv28]

Jacobed my Geller

[@Scypek]

I just paused the video with the intent of giving my suggestion, before unpausing and realizing my suggestion was the exact thing he decided to do next... great mind things alike. Except in my version, the non-discussed games outnumbered the discussed ones 5 to 1.

[@casadastraphobia]

​@@Scypeki fear your version would cut the views in half by convincing everyone that a game they want to play will be spoiled

[@guyWSonicpicture]

She Jacobed my Geller til I Videoed essayed all over my nebula ​@@Flashv28

[@leos4243]

Jacob should do a video about games influenced by Robert E. Howard

[@kaysienothin]

If this video doesnt secretly contain the next 5 jacob geller videos i am going to be disappointed

[@cringerthemad]

Found it! At minute 12:34 you have to hold your breath, cross your toes on both feet, and hit ctrl+W.

[@landlocked_lifts332]

Those are actually contained in the "Nebula" expansion pass

[@CraigStevenLikesStuff]

"Welcome to the sequel, asshole!" with that music and Jacob's enthusiasm just hits so goddamn hard.

[@CraigStevenLikesStuff]

Did he smack his desk before delivering that line? 😂

[@cwaero]

Personally I thought World of Goo 17 was one of the stronger entries in the series

[@brianthomas8411]

World of goolf goated

[@avimo2565]

Same, wog2 would’ve been good if not for that chapter 4 which was very clearly a cash grab and designed to promote Netflix. World Of Goo 21 sucked more though.

[@mattymerr701]

I would absolutely play a point n' click by 2dBoy is what I learned from it

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

Honestly surprised Frog Fractions wasn’t at least passingly mentioned in this post when I watched it on Nebula. Can’t think of a game that literally hides its sequels more than that series

[@ShadeMeadows]

*THIS.* This is exactly right.

[@jjthepikazard212]

that was my first thought

[@workingclassreptiles]

Aww. Still watching this and I thought they would have mentioned the Frog Fractions sequel.

[@marx96xVx]

I literally thought this video is gonna center on frog fractions and was really confused when it didn't show up on the list of games the video talks about our even on the list of games that were used in the footage

[@ditchboyhill_0781]

That was the only one I knew about going in I was very surprised not to see it

[@KadeC021]

That Dragon’s Dogma 2 transition had my jaw on the FLOOR. I can’t imagine how it would feel to find this after investing a solid chunk of time into the game!!

[@emryx]

But what happen after the Dragon’s Dogma 2 title screen ? Is it just an long epilogue or is there a game after the transition ?

[@ashdean3474]

@@emryx I don't know, but now I really wanna find out.

[@kuyaaa_]

​@emryx the game still plays out, and you have whole new missions to do. It's essentially the end game, and the map is completely changed. It's my favorite part of an already solid game

[@emryx]

@@kuyaaa_Good to know, thanks !

[@pixillest3468]

@@emryx SPOILERS Short version: The world map gets a lot bigger because every previous lake/ocean/river is dried up, revealing new locations and enemies. The rest of the world gets lots of tougher enemy spawns, and the player only has so many in-game "days" (time gets weird in the "unmoored world" as it is called) to save every major city in the game from an incoming storm. You have to complete quests and defeat unique bosses in order to slow down the storm and evacuate the entire world map to a location that can be saved. It is both awesome and... not as awesome as it sounds. A lot of folks chafe against the timer and fail states(s) of the endgame, and unfortunately the newly opened up terrain doesn't hide anything particularly interesting outside some late-game loot. You'll still be fighting mostly reskins of the enemies you fought before. The new boss fights are neat, but also too-little-too-late as up til now you've fought mostly just the same enemies from the original DD ad-nausuem. This coupled with the fact that the game has no hard mode and is brain-dead easy by this point for anyone that spent more than 30 hours playing before hand really takes the wind out of the unmoored world's sails. It is, like almost everything in Dragons Dogma, a really cool idea with pretty rough execution.

[@Saikimo127]

Gotta love how a friend of mine said when seeing the video title: "Hey that's not war crimes, this time" and then not even a minute into the video (00:50) he uses that metaphor for his method of hiding the spoiler, lol.

[@DonTinker]

It's a Jacob video, you know it'll be war crimes

[@OstrichFingers]

On the topic of late title cards, Nier Automata has its title card drop approximately 30 hours into the game

[@aliasnando]

So does Binary Domain, I think it clocks at 40 minutes after a hell of a hollywood-esque intro with gameplay included

[@Cybermaul]

Warframe has a character creation screen about 100 hours in, and a whole new title card some dozen hours after that.

[@devanshkmishra]

Has jacob played nier? I don't think he has talked about it in any video which is such a shame considering the entire world of nier is so deep and it deserves video essays of thos quality

[@akatsukilevi]

@@Cybermaul Warframe, the game I played for 2 years before finishing the tutorial

[@petshrimp9748]

Also pretty neat how nier is its own hidden sequel

[@quiteadept]

I didn't want to be spoiled, so I changed the video to the Chinese language dub with subtitles off so I couldn't understand anything he was talking about...

[@Chairman_Miao]

哈哈哈

[@FullMetalAtheist]

What's the point of even watching at that point?

[@TonySpike]

​@@FullMetalAtheist woosh

[@DirtyMike124x]

​@@FullMetalAtheist regardless of whether or not you got the joke...I think your screen name is dope and give you 10 points if you thought of it yourself. Only 5 points if you copied it though lol

[@ThisisallMax]

My jacob is SO gellered right now

[@BookWyrmOnAString]

Who up gellering they Jacob rn

[@chickengogo1683]

she ja on my cob till i geller

[@dizzypear]

At the KZbin video, straight up gellering it, and by it, well, let's justr say my jacob

[@gbag37]

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[@jacob99503]

As a Jacob I am indeed Gellered.

[@gnomed6154]

I always knew the EDF series deserved more video essay recognition. Very stunning, very validating.

[@AstromarineCorpse]

that song at the end means that what EDF deserves is game of the year

[@michaelroach3175]

It literally has a Sseth video

[@Goldiloxz]

In this video I got spoiled about the fact that World of Goo 2 EXISTS IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS SINCE THE FIRST ONE

[@diegoultraman]

I really scratch my head on why the game is being only in Epic. (although I know it was primarily funded by Epic thus that's why). It had 1 trailer only which is fine for its theme. But you can still buy it in their website or Nintendo Switch for 30$ and no DRM. So there's that at least. I wish it had a slight more marketing, more people speak about it, or just be in Steam Store alongside Epic.

[@avimo2565]

You’ll love it

[@largob1594]

Wanna know something else? Pony island 2 also came out recently. Of course I have no idea whether you weren't aware of this yet, liked pony island, or even know what it is, but it would be incredibly funny.

[@bmckelvy5717]

In the same way that "Jacob Geller Thinks about Superstructures" is a genre with several entries, this essay is definitely a spiritual sequel to "Dark Souls 3 Is Thinking Of Ending Things"

[@KeybladeSpirit]

One of my favorite things that happens in Kingdom Hearts is that the mobile game port of the lost media browser game spent a good long while appearing to be just a much grindier version of the original game with a lot more filler content, only to never actually get to the ending because it was a sequel all along. It looking like a port was part of the story. The tons of extra filler content? It was all happy memories meant to replace the trauma your character experienced in the Keyblade War, a story event which had been previously implied to be noncanon and solely intended to give an ending to the cancelled browser version.

[@thelavenderbeds]

i literally finished dragon's dogma 2 two days ago and kept thinking that "i think i need jacob geller to talk about this". i think i manifested this in some way. sorry.

[@LoremasterLobsang]

Don't be sorry, I'm glad you did because this video made me want to play it

[@CallN0w]

The World Unmoored is legitimately some of the coolest shit I've seen in a triple A video game

[@shadows0le]

@@LoremasterLobsangSame, I was cautiously excited for it but put it on the back burner for money/bad review reasons but now I am sitting here trying to work out if I can afford it asap

[@lily2o852]

A someone who has played, like, five video games ever, these videos really make me appreciate them as an art form. There are so many unique aspects about video games, from their interactivity to the endless possibilities of subverting expectations and their almost unique ability to immerse you into a story and give YOU agency and influence in it. And all the while the thing is called something like "World of Goo". So, wow, I'm impressed.

[@iglusmulmus5171]

Inscryption was truly a great and captivating experience. I really dig ARGs and the sheer quality that went into this game (with it's hidden ARG elements) was outstanding.

[@hjewkes]

When I saw the inscryption clips at the beginning i was getting hyped before seeing his note that this was _not_ what the video was about lol

[@btcbuster5556]

@@hjewkes especially because it fits the type of game in the video pretty well, it does have different versions of the game within it

[@damagaz]

I agree, but it has nothing to do with the video. ...Actually, upon further consideration, the third act of the game could fit to the topic of the video.

[@MookalH]

it's wild because inscryption is a stealth sequel to The Hex, but that kind of hidden sequel isnt really what he's talking about here. also why he didn't mention frog fractions

[@hjewkes]

@ right!? I was really surprised it wasnt going to be in the video lol

[@thehairiesthare]

Earlier this week I mentioned this topic to a friend. We had just completed a game that revealed more video game. I said “Oh this is like another game I’ve played-“ I couldn’t remember it. Just seeing the title of this video something flooded all of those games back into my mind… and yet none of them are discussed in this video. What a bizarrely common phenomenon.

[@1UpWelch]

Feel like sharing a list?

[@suetyhercules7717]

Please you have to share or at least give a hint

[@thedocblock6421]

The ending of the video... Is wonderful But... There is yet more to see The More Games That Hide Their Own Sequels begins now

[@B0nehilda]

i literally got chills at the dragons dogma II reveal, even though i knew there was a hidden sequel coming

[@ongabonga4378]

16:45 this hit me for some reason. I think even outside of just videogames, everyone has a sort of physical or mental list of things they want to do, but end up falling in this trap and using their time doing whatever they're used to instead. They forget the drive they felt to try something new, and instead fall back on whats familiar, so the list of new things just keeps growing bigger and bigger without any items being knocked off. Change is difficult.

[@LOC-Ness]

It’s basically thinking you need to do homework, and I think a specific form of nerd culture made it more widespread.

[@cattysplat]

The whole big gaming industry has become like this. Chasing trends, chasing nostalgia, chasing filler content like achievements and collectables, chasing multiplayer grinds and never ever investing in new ideas that risk the slightest chance at failure. It hasn't helped that gamers have been eating up the same games and experiences for so long now, because it's comfortable and reliable like a McDonalds. But how many years of eating the same foods until your body and mind just start rejecting it outright, even become allergic. Indie creative tonics for all is what this industry longs for.

[@omfgsushi7071]

I love how I'm essentially playing a game of chicken with a youtube video, hoping that the one game I haven't played yet was the blank, makes for a great start to some grade a existentialism.

[@AstromarineCorpse]

so, was it?

[@Wormopera]

The one game that I kinda did care about the spoilers was in there lol

[@Joseju]

I had just checked your channel because I was just itching for another vid. So glad to catch this one so soon!

[@Mantisette]

vaya, yo tambien... se puede decir que nos hemos dejado caer por aqui?

[@longboy5639]

Happy to see the "Where we fall people?" Guy in the coments

[@Mantisette]

@@longboy5639 they/them, thank you :) but yeah, happy to oblige. i really did just drop by to check the channel too, it was a call from god ig hajsjajs

[@Kolyvri]

Eyyyy my man, Jacob geller hablando de Dragons dogma 2 fue una increible sorpresa!

[@danebirbhaha7520]

Hombre joseju, que sorpresa verte aquí, donde cae - (nah but these videos have insane production values, I'm amazed we get them for free)

[@jmd810]

I played all of EDF5 with a friend, then we palyed all of EDF6 and were constatly surprised by the twists. The moment when you get to save the guy from EDF5's turorial and then he helps activate Barga early in the invasion blew our minds.

[@BreezyBeej]

as someone who has played every EDF since 2017 religiously, EDF6 really spoke to me. They landed on a story that takes the player's gameplay loop and makes it part of the core narrative In a way that moved me. and the entire notion of the game was the indomitable human spirit.

[@spookydood5500]

(16:35) "You could be a content creator without the inconvenience of having to create content" goddamn.

[@AstromarineCorpse]

so, a react channel?

[@ZgermanGuy.]

Just scan your face and AI does the rest

[@ogto]

if i'm not mistaken, Dragon's Dogma 1 ALSO pulls the same trick, of using a magical dagger to... end the cycle.

[@duckluiz]

Yes, it does. And iirc, only using the godsbane gives you the real ending of the game

[@Cedutus]

this is honestly part of why DD2 is so disappointing, we already saw them do this once and doing it a second time just felt cheap.

[@cattysplat]

@@Cedutus It's Capcom though, all their games pretty much run on throwbacks and nods to their past.

[@ieatatsonic]

Shoutouts to Danganronpa V3. No, I do not mean Danganronpa 3. That's something completely different.

[@XavierGobble]

I was about to say the same thing, I know the twist wasn’t received well by some people but I really liked it

[@ZhugieH]

Yeah I was thinking of V3 when watching this. Loved that twist

[@Deley18]

I'm still working my way through the series, so I've yet to see this myself.

[@RetepAdam]

V3 was the first one thing I thought of as well.

[@KyrieFortune]

Spoilers for Danganronpa V3 . . . . . . . . It's clever because V3 looks to us like "Version 3" or as a generic cool thing the creators sometimes do like "Street Fighter 2 Turbo". But no, it's V3, as in the roman numeral for 5, V, and 3, Danganronpa 53, the 53rd Killing Game. It hides the real number of the game IN THE TITLE ITSELF

[@baconslime640]

A similar game to this is Deponia Doomsday, which only exists because fans kept pestering the creator to make a fourth game. It literally starts with the protagonist being old in a frozen wasteland, full of monsters, and lighting a nuke to end the world. Its expectations are weighed down by the old games, and the creator essentially says, 'F you, you wanted this,' destroying everything and finally ending the loop in the game and for the fans, so they can never ask for another game.

[@nicholaslewis57]

As a game developer, I always thought it would be a good idea to hide my personal project on a disc in a place no one would find it (kinda like inscryption lol)

[@NutrigrainHulk]

Played Stanley Ultra earlier this year after seeing it on a Gellar top ten list and god almighty, feels like I've thought about it every day since. Such a distinct game!!

[@Comicbroe405]

Not exactly a sequel but Alan Wake & Control being connected was a big surprise for me.

[@colbyboucher6391]

...And Quantum Break, in as IP-dodging a way as possible

[@theperfectpixl]

I love the back and forth going on between those 2 where Control had an Alan Wake DLC and teased Alan Wake 2, then Alan Wake 2 had a Control DLC and teased Control 2.

[@Chest3rTheSquirrel]

@@theperfectpixl which makes it so every single game listed there had that in them since they're fully connected at this point

[@captnconfusion280]

Spoiler for the uhh video essay i guess // . . . . . . . . . I love when games adress the franchise metanarrative. My favorite example of this will always be the Deponia series by Daedalic - it used to be a complete trilogy with a conclusive narrative, but the fanbase was super unhappy with the ending of the game (because the funny main character sacrifices himself to save his love interest/the world). So when Deponia 4 rolled around, it begins with an opening scene set in an apocalyptic wasteland with an aged but somehow alive protagonist setting off a bomb that blows up the world. And from there it unravels into a narrative of time travel that is obsessed with fixing the end of the previous game, only to make it worse and worse each attempt. It's a genius metanarrative about coming to terms with endings and letting go of a beloved franchise.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

That's also what Danganronpa V3 does right at the end (A game that kinda fits in this video too.)

[@Gloomdrake]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740is V3 a third game or a rerelease of the first game?

[@zacharyfeldman6822]

I've always described that game as the fourth of the trilogy. There is no other way to describe it, and its perfect for that. I'm still fucking mad they killed Rufus off, and I don't think I'll ever not be mad. But 4 turned the anger from hot to more of a sad anger, an anger that the games writers had that ending in mind and they had structured the entire game around it, and they refused to write themselves out of it as that would've invalidated the first three games. Its also kind of like how the makers of hotline miami 2 blew the damned world up at the end of it as a polite but firm "fuck you" (the sort of "fuck you" that you say to a friend after they make a dad joke) to people who wanted more. But a third game fixing 2's mistakes, both in gameplay and storytelling deserves to be made, I would absolutely love it if a dedicated group of fans created it as a firm but polite "fuck you" back to the creators. The issue with the hotline miami series that deponia 4 provides is closure. Deponia 4 provides a sense of closure that 3 failed to. Hotline miami has no sense of closure, which leaves a bad taste in your mouth when the credits of 2 roll.

[@jazpuh]

@@Gloomdrakeit’s a third game, although it’s very confusing because as far as I know, the actual sequel to the second game is the Danganronpa 3 anime. This is completely separate from the game Danganronpa V3.

[@Digolgrin]

@@zacharyfeldman6822 I would argue... maybe Hotline Miami 2 ending the way it does, without actual closure, is exactly the point. Like, HM2 is THE game that basically says "there are no happy endings for those who enjoy hurting other people." Everyone you play as dies violently, whether in nuclear hellfire or at the hands of someone else, playable or not. If we actually DO get to the end of the game, and decide we want to play hard mode, the game basically comes out and asks us "okay now why the fuck would you want to do this AGAIN? You KNOW how this story ends." If you commit to a life of violence, there will never BE closure for you. You'll either die a pointless death or become just another victim, sometimes even as a result of something completely outside of your control.

[@renano95]

"Remembering is better than playing something new" wow that describes how i feel about gaming a lot of times It's hard to get into them as much as I used to and would instead rather talk to my friends about old games or watch videos about said games

[@blackmagemasher4031]

Quick note about the "you can't play x first!?!" I had a little brother who only knew MGS because of the memes, and when Armstong blew up hard he decided to jump into the series. He started with 2, so he could play Revengence, played 1, played 3, we are about to start Peace Walker..... Morale... it doesn't matter, any entry does a great job of hooking people

[@bartolomeus441]

Changing the order helps emphasize different themes in the franchise. Watching Lucas' Star Wars from I to VI emphasizes rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker. Watching it from IV to VI and then I-III puts the emphasis on the Rebel Alliance that try not to repeat the Republic's mistakes.

[@Т1000-м1и]

Now I know that that's from that and am interested in it

[@brie1619]

i read JoJo's part 7, then 6, got obsessed with it and watched all the anime, and it makes other fans inexplicably mad. i never could have slogged through part 3 without knowing where the later entries go.

[@PeaceLoveAndGuns]

Need a Jacob Geller SIGNALIS vid. "Remember our promise."

[@Tarnished-bn5gq]

Dragon’s Dogma 2 (You know, the game taking place after The Arisen ends the cycle) reminds me of Dark Souls 3 (yes, another Dark Souls comparison), except inverted. The cycle of Grigori and The Arisen was what kept the world in balance in the series, rather than what’s keeping the world decaying due to stagnation in Dark Souls. Revoking that cycle entirely, causes the world to destabilize, and morph into a hellish inversion of itself, much like how breaking Fillianore’s Egg in The Ringed City destroys the protective force keeping it alive. Both series are about refusing to continue a cycle, however while Dark Souls depicts it in a canonical, in game sense, Dragon’s Dogma depicts it in both a in game, and meta sense.

[@TheBadBuffalo]

Honestly, I can’t say I was expecting that level of artistry and self-awareness in Dragon’s Dogma 2 from a juggernaut dev like Capcom. At least not to that degree

[@adevertillo610]

my favorite rendition of this will always be labyrinth of galleria and how it plays with what you'd expect from a sequel; it's more connected to itself than it is to refrain and it's constantly teasing you with grander possibilities of connection before stamping it out and forcing you to work for it more, to play more, to truly put the effort to get the conclusion you think it deserves

[@kholdseid6614]

@12:09 Bug Tuah pounce on that thang

[@mofvu]

😭

[@glizzygoat]

29:06 THIS is the pata narrative I love to see from Jacob. please never stop doing what u do

[@glizzygoat]

i see the irony in that last sentence. Jacob Geller foreveerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@purpleblah2]

I'm surprised you didn't include the fakeout title screen for Hotline Miami 3 in Hotline Miami 2.

[@AintNobodyAtAll]

A wonderful video. Incredibly well done! When I first saw the thumbnail I was like "Oh, like how in Super Mario 3D land there's a whole new set of 8 worlds after you think you've beat it?" No way, that's too tame. Shit gets wild in your examples here.

[@twicethess-ratedghoul7859]

Man, this video has the ultimate dilemma of ‘oh man, I need play and finish these games’ but I also wanna watch your video !!! I’ll be back in a week and if I haven’t at least started/finished these games, then I’ll just watch the video cause we only get one vid a month and I always look forward to them. See you then my dude !

[@chlli]

16:30 reminds me of livestreams on yt shorts where a ball bounces around spinning rings over and over playing sound effects, completely automatic.

[@caseyarmitage2862]

Weird that the misdirecting fifth game in the list that supposedly doesn’t include its sequel literally contains a teaser within it for its actual real sort of sequel. It’s maybe the game to which the title is truest of them all

[@SGresponse]

Ultimately World Of Goo 1 had the same twist but without digging into the metanarrative of sequels and the like. The first time I was told "You are not compatible with... the world" I was in the same state of mind as you when you found Dragon's Dogma 2.

[@pollyanna7201]

Mentioning Peglin at the end there caught me so off guard, been playing that game a ton recently and yet, hadn’t even thought people had heard of it

[@eldritch_midnight6007]

It scratches an itch I get while bored at work for something simple and quick but with enough depth to be fun

[@TheBadBuffalo]

3:29 Wait until you hear about Thai filmmaker Apichatpong Weerasethakul

[@DumbCup]

Echo point nova is 🔥 0:28

[@regularshowman3208]

Okay so much like this video I can’t talk about this game without spoiling it so. If you like visual novels, this will spoil the most recent entry of one of the more famous VN series. Got it? Cool. Danganronpa v3 does a really cool trick where once the twist drops, that you’re not in a sequel to the previous entries set in the same universe, but in fact in an alternate universe where DR is just as fictional as it is to us, and it’s had so many sequels that it’s become a reality TV show with real deaths just to satiate the audience’s need for more DR that makes them feel as excited as it used to, and you find out that this isn’t Version 3 like the title suggests. The v is a 5. It’s Danganronpa 53.

[@anotherbacklog]

EDF! EDF! EDF! Never in my life I expected Jacob Geller talking about EDF. Now only if I can hear Jacob Geller sings the EDF song I can finally rest In peace.

[@godribbon]

When people say that DD2 has a bad story I find that triggering. Did they just not see the true ending?

[@tenshi7751]

Xenoblade 2 fits this theme very well, even though it does have 2 in the title, for the majority of its play time it passes itself as a final fantasy style sequel, but (and if this hasn't been spoiled by the existence and marketing of xenoblade 3 or by the existence of this comment on this video), towards the end it shows the scene of the creation of 1s world and how 2 relates to that. There's a lot more detail but I'll leave it there. I'll also add to that that it also fits the running post apocalyptic aspect of this video, though I don't think it really uses it to comment on the nature of sequels like the games in this video do

[@Jaydee-wd7wr]

2:34: You can(not) redo

[@avimo2565]

Cool to see wog2 mentioned. What about Duck Life 9 as that wasn’t announced for a while?

[@Nazmazh]

Me, fully having played the fakeout title in the list: "Oh boy, I hope he talks about that one! Maybe I completely missed something there!" Y'know, it should have been obvious once the first couple of examples were listed, because I remembered nothing of the sort in there. Again, though, it was entirely possible that while distracted by [big obvious sequel-related thing in the game], I completely overlooked something else.

[@3ndlessL00p]

You and me both. Really, I was excited for Jacob to talk about [REDACTED].

[@smollnano]

Meanwhile I was hoping that he wasn't going to talk about [REDACTED], since it was the one game on that list that I want to play, but haven't gotten around to playing yet 😂

[@_harrop]

Watched on nebula already! This video reminded me that Alan wake 2 lake house came out and i loved that. I played all the other ones thankfully

[@unitymask]

I can't believe myself I saw the jiequan battle and my heart skipped a beat because NINE SOLS HOLY SHIT HE'S TALKING ABOUT NINE SOLS before remembering about the text onscreen that says the games weren't going to be discussed. Which I read one second ago

[@orthopoxy]

There's a game that's an indirect direct sequel to it's predecessor in such a way that's not even acknowledged by the characters because at the time its revealed it's incredibly minor, its title doesn't even drop until the 30 hour mark and the story does a hard reset during that title drop that forces you remake your characters with 13 brand new classes. It also combines gameplay and narrative so ambitiously in the last act that it would make Kojima blush with its audacity. It's Labyrinth of Galleria and I wish more people played it because the story is a genuine masterclass.

[@RougeMephilesClone]

Shout-outs to Okami, which has its second and third games inside of it. Same for Copy Kitty, which arguably hits game five.

[@Koich14]

I do not say this lightly or haphazardly, Jacob. This is easily one of the best essay channels I've ever stumbled upon. I still reread the Golem every once in a while.

[@moofree]

I think it's Space Quest 6 which is this idea as a game mechanic... You time travel through future space quests and stuff.

[@w.watson9521]

When the credits started rolling, I wish someone had seen the side-eye I gave the video, expecting a part 2.

[@AugustRx]

That's for nebula

[@user-xsn5ozskwg]

When I was playing DDII I was in the same place as you. Didn't take note of the odd title, thought the narrative choices were thematic if a bit uninspired, and left wondering if there was more. The twist it pulls is *so* satisfying.

[@Shonji_Ikori]

Nier Automata has a literal trailer for the second half of that game before just throwing you into it

[@iciclepops]

this video essay gave me chills and made me think a lot. i think its one of my top 3 video essays now

[@lyingpancake95]

What a fascinating correlation of intent on the part of all these games. The media landscape of games and film has truly been weathered by the onslaught of regurgitated intellectual properties. I really appreciate how you spotlighted these titles that had something interesting to say about that trend.

[@mohireza1]

Ok I had freed this evening to watch some of your older videos, I open YT, and you have uploaded a video 6 minutes ago!

[@DracoGalboy]

Your video on peggle alone is worth the price of nebula. And that's ignoring the other content you have there, and everyone else there too. This video is, as always, an interesting dive into something I was vaguely aware of but not invested into.

[@krenkrombo9616]

0:20 Without the explanation that the spoiler alert itself will be a spoiler, the spoiler alert wouldn't have been a spoiler.

[@Surepeacooler]

More Jacob Geller YEAAAHHHHH (Looking forwards to your book btw, I preordered it around when you announced it)

[@TheFeetCrusader]

Ōkami is my go to game to reference when it comes to a game having its own built in sequel. It basically having 3 self contained story arcs within a grand narrative and then ending in a purposeful, yet satisfying cliffhanger was something I wish I could experience again for the first time. :-)

[@ngwoo]

Boy I sure wish I had played DD2 before this

[@thedalekditto15]

The Stanley parable was my introduction to narrative analysis. It is one of my top five games of all times, and oh god Ultra deluxe is the only way Stanley Parable could have truly lived again. It is interesting in a way few other games could dream of, and somehow so much funnier and darker. It is one of my favorite games ever again.

[@JimFaindel]

You are the only reason I keep logging back onto Nebula like once a month. Cheers!

[@darksentinel082]

15:00 this part of the game genuinely changed my life honestly.

[@inoswap]

One really interesting instance of “hiding its sequel” I think is this one little indie game called MOTHERED. A demo came out for it as part of a collection of indie horror game demos (I think it was Dread XP?) and, say you saw the demo in the collection, and you’d already played the full thing, but that was a while ago. So you boot up the demo and play it- and the game actually checks to see if you have a save file for the first game on your computer; and if you *do*, then it doesn’t go to the demo but rather the semi-sequel MOTHERED: HOME. It’s really cool. Also Ikaruga pretends it’s a standalone schmup but it’s actually a sequel-prequel-end-of-the-timeloop-metacommentary-on-schmups to Radiant Silvergun and I would pay any amount of money to hear your analysis on that.

[@ShallowVA]

I think the first game I ever saw do this was Space Quest 4, where you steal a time machine and travel to previous and future entries in the series. The title on the window even changes to let you know that you're playing Space Quest 12: Vohaul's Revenge II now.

[@evahicks5733]

peggle is a huge meme in my dorm and i was NOT expecting that jumpscare. peggle escaping the singular tv in the lounge and getting referenced by JACOB GODDAMN GELLER. i wish i could watch it but poor, someday I'll pay for a month and binge all of it

[@fluffycritter]

Space Quest 4 did a pretty major send-up of the long-running franchise time travel thing, all the way back in 1991.

[@JulianDanzerHAL9001]

1:05 I'm not sure it does, not if its the complete unexpectedness that makes the twist but damn I love how convoluted this already is one minute in

[@LynnHermione]

I don't play games but this was very interesting.

[@JethanOnYourScreen]

I wonder if Seth and Jacob played EDF together

[@SeanORiordan-DSMV]

So glad I get a new Jacob Geller video today 😊

[@CallN0w]

1:50 evil Jacob reveal

[@milo3733]

"Earth Defense Force 4.1 - The Shadow of New Despair" is such a delightful name for a video game

[@ponivi]

long game titles with no purpose other than to be long scratch an itch inside my head i did not know existed until i played edf4.1 for the first time

[@Grittyhamy]

May I say this is maybe one of your bests? And not just because I was (slightly) involved? Great job as always Jacob! Honestly got chills when you introduced the meta nature of these reveals.

[@WolfieDawn]

Your lips are literally when cats do the :3 and I love that. Also. Your voice is somehow comforting. Thank you for letting me think about things that aren't the fiery constant terror of the world actively around me in reality. ❤

[@keenanjohnson231]

A lot of grace is being given to Dragon's Dogma 2 here. The twist is wonderful unless you've played the first game. In which case you're already expecting it. I didn't expect anything revolutionary but i expected more than a glorified remake.

[@deevilknievel]

It’s an absolute pleasure watching your content grow over the years. Thank you for being a role model.

[@rafaela00002]

Love this genre of Jacob videos that are basically "so, I played some game that have this thing in common"

[@theapocalyvid]

“Well the others are immediate sequels and I don’t expect EDF 6 to switch things up THAT much, I bet that’s fake…” “…You’re less likely to get that strong a reaction from fans of the Earth Defense Force series” “whelp”

[@thanatoast]

(SPOILERS FOR the Danganrompa series) I wonder if you could consider a hidden sequel the 50 games we don't see between Danganronpa 2 and Danganrompa V3? They canonically happened in the "lore" of the Danganrompa series, each game is "canon" at least to the "real world" of the universe V3 takes place in, even if we never play through them. It, too, plays with the idea of series decay, but more from the perspective of Fandom. The fictional DR fandom in the game has, apparently, learned nothing from the series that they love so much. They treat the main themes of Hope and Despair as basically teams in a sport, and they don't really connect with those themes beyond the superficial because it just "has to be that way".

[@memeweirdguyn.0019]

I love that The Stanley Parable keeps up with their own jokes and themes by basically gaslighting you (or a newcomer) by never drawing the line where the original Stanley Parable ended and where the new content started Like *SPOILERS:* the section of "Stanley Parable 2" is literally an inside joke of the criticisms and what is the point in making sequels if you don't change the formula at least a bit

[@kimgee.12]

Thank you for this. Really needed a fresh jacob geller video in my life. Fantastic as always!

[@honestket]

THE STANLEY PARABLE MENTIONED LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[@2782Jack]

I always get that vibe from games like this that they soon become more concerned with being a work of art than actually satisfying the audience, It's not that art can't be entertaining but often it feels like most art isn't concerned with that, it's too busy asking questions to create satisfying gameplay or narratives

[@flameknightx1737]

Another great example for this would be "Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator". Like honestly back then when you booted up that game expecting some short fun minigame and then suddenly realized, "Holy shit, this is actually FNAF 6!", that's probably one of my most hyped gaming experiences. (I know this sounds like a troll comment to anyone not familiar with FNAF, but just look it up.)