Jada Got People out Here Fighting over CLEOPATRA 🙄

[@Alteori]

I made a huge oops! As I was reading up on the racial facial features, one of the articles that popped up with pictures mentioned, Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid groups. I still feel like a total noob even though I've been in this country long enough but I had NO idea the words themselves were now used as slurs based on the viewpoint and belief of the people that came up with them. The term "Mongolian" is still used even though that term was introduced by one of those racist people who believed that Mongolians were inferior, so I was a bit confused. I am SO sorry if it came off like I was being malicious. I hope you could tell from my tone and presentation that I was not at all. I was ignorant but I know now. Yeesh 😅

[@Dracounguis]

I'm ignorant but Mongoloid sounds more racist and derogatory Mongolian. 😆

[@miceltusav88]

Caucasoid, negroid and mongoloid sound like the names of enemies in a mech fighter game Also, I thought they were called "Mongolian" because there was a country or city state named Mongol, and that was what you called the people from there. Like how people from the United States of America are called Americans

[@Alteori]

@@Dracounguis 😂😂😂😂 I swear to god, I've even heard people in school use it. First time I heard it is when I came to the USA and they used it so casually so when I looked it up, they just said it meant of Southeast Asia, Americas, etc descent. I even thought it was a weird sounding name but - I'm so done

[@arcdecibel9986]

Everything's a slur now. I wouldn't worry about it and I give zero fecks about being called Caucasoid. Those terms are actually the scientific names for the haplogroups.

[@FrostbiteDigital]

@@Alteori I gotta say that video you linked about the black girl getting a lot of racism, there is ironically an astonishing amount of Afrocentric-charged racism in the comments towards Egyptians and Arabs lol. It's like an endless cycle.

[@JerseyWolf]

The part that really irked me was that this was supposed to be a documentary and yet Jada said she based it off her grandmother saying that schools and historians are all lying to her.

[@Ephideltrance]

Not hard to believe, historians learn things overtime. You acting as if Cleopatra ethnicity was never questioned or debated before- guess what, it was, until more info came out. And yes history books do lie or misguide so generally speaking..... not everything you read is true.

[@k0lpA]

this is the new trend, everything is a lie

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

It's almost like an entire generation was brainwashed to believe there is no objective truth only "your truth."

[@rocketraccoon1976]

My grandmother told me the first emperor of China was a black woman and not to believe anyone else. 🪭👩🏿‍🦱🪭

[@ArgentWolf95]

@@rocketraccoon1976 You know, this could start World War III LOL

[@ABtheButterfly]

Hamilton got away with race-swapping historical figures, but that only cause that was for entertaining musical play. what Netflix's Cleopatra did was race swap Cleopatra and then claim she was actually black and not of Greek descent and that is what made Egypt and other people upset. that's not "Oh this is just for fun we know the real Cleopatra wasn't black" They're like "Cleopatra was black, deal with it" Eygpt: but we have factual proof she wasn't black", Netflix: "You're just being racist"

[@lilacfantasy4]

Also, Hamilton's music is not historically accurate, so they can get away with colorblind casting, since it's a stylistic choice. This is a blatant rewriting of history, and its gross.

[@zoopdterdoobdter5743]

​@@lilacfantasy4 There wasn't anything "colorblind" about the casting of Hamilton. 🤭 That said, it was all a bit tongue-in-cheek and in good fun whereas Cleopatra was a farce from start to finish.

[@sifridbassoon]

@@lilacfantasy4 I'm not sure I would call Hamilton's casting "colorblind,"

[@Jbickley00]

Hamilton didn’t claim to be a documentary

[@Djurberg74]

They got away with it because Hamilton is a character in American history that extremely few non-Americans ever heard about. Those who had couldn't care less. And they didn't appropriate another country's culture. Nor did they exclaim that this Hamilton guy really was black in real life.

[@raeldri5867]

I believe what Netflix and Jada did is call "culture appropriation" like you know use someone else culture to make money without respecting it

[@handsomeman-pm9vy]

But only those Wiggins can claim culture appropriation. lol

[@housewilma4904]

@BlueRaven unfornatly it does because they have succesfully legally redefined laws to that only wuhites can be wacist. if minoriteis are wacist to wuhites they call "reverse wacism" and its a good thing they claim.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@azalalarson7952 According to the crime statistics and a Twitter AI employed in 2017, they're actually far more racist. The Twitter AI to expose white racism found that whites were by far the least racist at like 8%, with blacks being over 70% of all racists. The AI was then dubbed racist and disbanded. We are living in a racist clown world.

[@aedt3]

What they did is called “racism”

[@David-hc4xh]

Whilst its not perfect it tells an important story of an African Queen, how that people with darker skin (non-white) were once some of the most powerful people in the world and how it was from Africa that Europe got its power and wealth.

[@rosemartasgaminghoard]

The most disgusting part of all of this is the racism that has been inspired toward the Egyptian people. I've seen it online myself people even claiming that the people living in Egypt today are invaders who have lied about Egypts "true black history and origin " it's made me sick and angry. Adele James is a horrible person as far as I'm concerned and a racist.

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

Welcome to the party, Egyptians. Native Americans have been dealing with these culture-stealing hoteps for years now.

[@etruscancivilization]

Ancient Black Egyptian civilizations don't have anything to do with present day ARAB NATIONALIST Egyptians.. This issue does not involve their racist perceptions about a civilization that they do not have a part..

[@dalfifran7572]

@@JDoe-gf5oz They also attack Native Americans? Woow!

[@queenkajinakinoshita7395]

As I told others when I explained how dumb this situation is: Let Hollywood make a Documentary about Martin Luther King Jr. being a white guy because some dweeb says "My grandmother told me so" and watch how fast the roles are reversed

[@yosikama2611]

Now day Egyptians are for the most arabs and not descendants of ancient Egyptians. However, you CAN gen a general idea of of how ancient Egyptians looked like: The copt , which are now a very small minority are the remaining of that ethnicity. Not black .

[@Reptile64]

You gotta love how someone used "My great grandmother said this, so it's true..." as a "legit" talking point

[@MarsM13]

It's a part of something I've noticed from people with an intense political agenda: they don't think in terms of facts, but in terms of what "good people" believe and what "bad people" believe. In their minds, "good people" believe that Cleopatra was black, so if you disagree, by definition you are a bad person since you believe one of the things only bad people believe.

[@madaxgaming6405]

She is just a terrible person, just see what she did to smith

[@kr4t0sg.28]

Reminds me of the water boy : My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush. 😆😆😆

[@swagromancer]

My great-grandmother also used to tell me of certain historical lies I would be taught in school and shouldn't believe. Maybe I should trust her more than verifiable history? 🤔 I'm German, btw.

[@mercaius]

And a college professor no less.

[@mrawesome1688]

As a greek, I feel insulted. This is one more attack to my peoples history. We offer so much to the world, and we are just getting insulted all the time for "OUR history." I perfectly understand why egyptians are furious. This is a despicable work. I m just wondering what's gonna be next now. The peloponysian War fought by black people in Africa?

[@housewilma4904]

they already did that they made a show called TROY where they made achillies and ZEUS HIMSELF bwak. they have no shame and unfornatly american and europes have submitted to wuhite guilt so no one feels safe to be honest. and complain when wuhite chracters are wace swapped heck even altori has poked fun at people who were upset by it before. the egyptians arnt wuhite and havent submitted to wuhite guilt so the fear tactics of "accept this or say it not that bad or you wacis" didnt and wont work.

[@mrawesome1688]

I know about Troy. I tried to watch the first episode.and I was like, no, there's no way I m watching this after I saw what they did to Achiles.

[@marcussinclaire4890]

Same people that complain about cultural appropriation will go and do this, absolutely ridiculous.

[@rockpirt1760]

Well i have heard that some people believe that native american is black.... so we maybe get pocahontas is black next

[@Aguijon1982]

I don't care what they told you in School. Greece is in Africa.

[@retrozip]

They could've just went with an actual African queen (who is black) , but no they just had to go political

[@vertigo2894]

Like some Egyptian rulers :)

[@Noodlezoop]

Native African** or Black African*

[@georgeericcastrillo2207]

Actually, Cleopatra is considered as one of the African queens because Egypt is part of Africa. As well as Nefertiti and Hatshepsut. But that doesn't mean that they're black!

[@DemonicRemption]

@retrozip As a black man who's studied African American history and recently learned about African Queen Nzinga, the term "political" might as well be synonymous with "lazy."

[@swirlyskyshock1155]

They Have actually. This Cleopatra Docudrama was Season 2 to the Series ‘African Queens’. The First Season was about Queen Nzinga, ruler of Angola. That Documentary was MUCH better recieved than Cleopatra. It was rated mostly Positive, but criticized because it lacked Context and Personality. It still was recieved FAR better than this Greek-Erasure Shitshow.

[@Etekatte]

I remember my grandma once told me, "I don't care what Alteori tells you, The Land Before Time 14 is the best Land Before Time movie."

[@serpentinious7745]

Shots fired lol

[@andrewtodaro2874]

🤣🤣🤣

[@thomasray]

WRONG 😂

[@andrewdowns3673]

I'm so pissed over this f@#$ing 'Docudrama'!!!🤬🤬 As someone who idealizes Cleopatra, wrote my final on her, and wrote a book on a mummy princess based on her, I find what these people did to be so heinous and disrespectful. I'm glad that they're not just having lawsuits from egyptologists and historians, but the entire country of Egypt!

[@themurrrr]

Can you confirm something I suspect: didn’t all high class Egyptians in those days shave off all their hair, including the hair on their head? I distinctly remember that being a thing, but no idea if Cleopatra also did it.

[@vertigo2894]

That bad to be black in your eyes eh?

[@vertigo2894]

Also the "country of Egypt " persecutes Christians and tortures homosexuals.

[@Ephideltrance]

But what will the lawsuits actually do? How will it stand up in court when Hollywood is well known for whitewashing? No one ever complained then. None of those lawsuits going to do anything, the show already came out and failed...and Jada continues being rich and living her life.

[@themurrrr]

@Hostmann Socrates Ooooh! Interesting…… I just assumed they both did.

[@cttommy73]

The reason so many people are pissed is because an American and American company are taking another county's histories, changing it, than telling them they are all ignorant and racist for objecting to having their history, past and culture taken and changed. Which last I checked, based on American media to an Asian, is supposed to be racist.

[@joelhungerford8388]

People are pushed cos Hollywood have been doing this for years now. A political agenda pushed as diversity and inclusion

[@KemetledAfrica]

Europeans did that to African countries all the time, they still do

[@spicyspace1319]

@@KemetledAfrica 🤔Provide examples and the sources too.

[@KemetledAfrica]

@@spicyspace1319 Great Zimbabwe

[@AZ-697]

America is dealing with a Marxist insurgency that has seized control of numerous institutions and company’s like Disney. Netflix’s Cleafrotra was just another political tool too push the agenda forward.

[@brothergrimaldus3836]

"Cleopatra was black." Where did you study? Where did you read that? "My friend has a grandmother, whose grandmother said, 'Trust me bro'."

[@kr4t0sg.28]

That's a whole water boy scene. "My momma said" LOL !!!

[@alexfriedman918]

My grandfather always said: “Whatever they tell you in school, JFK was a filthy Chinaman!” We had him committed immediately!

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

History? Smistory! Reality can be whatever I want it to be!

[@k0lpA]

they know its true in their heart :)

[@sifridbassoon]

@@k0lpA are you sure?

[@Publicistvideos]

I think the problem is not really just the appearance of a character, it’s that the “documentary” appears to want to erase the fact that Egypt was ruled by a Greek descended upper class for hundreds of years. I have no dog in this fight except that trying to erase the Hellenistic period in a “documentary” is pretty weird.

[@sifridbassoon]

I take your point, but I don't think it's the bigh issue here.

[@BrettCaton]

It's worse - every time they say Egyptian, they show a black person. Part of the Egyptian law suit is that they want to erase the Egyptians from existence.

[@laisphinto6372]

it is a big issue this is on the same level of historical rewriting the nazis did to lie that aryans were somehow the most awesome race. A DOCUMENTARY has to be accurate if not you can also pretend hitler was saving jews thats how retarded this is

[@PorchBandit]

you're right it's not just the appearance they literally said cleopatra WAS black

[@jarerarebear1765]

I still can't get over how silly that "my grandma would say 'I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black" lady sounded. Like, how can you be considered an authoritative historian and say something so nonsensical. I don't care how old your Gran is, lady, there's no way she was there to see Cleopatra in person.😂

[@dondragmer2412]

I don't care what they say, my racist granddad said Julius Caesar was black and that's why he deserved assassination. I hope my sarcasm is obvious and not taken seriously, but I am afraid that is something my granddad could have said. It's like the attitude the great but racist character actor and three-time Oscar winner for best supporting actor felt about the assassination of Martin Luther King. He was elated and danced for joy.

[@Noblesse_Sapphire]

I don't care what they say, I believe her grandma was one of the aliens who taught the Egyptians how to build the pyramids and made a contract with Cleopatra herself [Alien theme song plays]

[@GooseAlarm]

... Bruh my mother said the same shit to me. Not sure why anyone wants to "claim" Cleopatra as 'there own'. From what I've read she was exactly a perfect angel. Like didn't she kill herself leaving behind her children? Pretty sure one them was executed after she off herself. I don't know but she don't see why anyone would obsessed over this woman who existed hundreds of years ago and whose story no one actually knows.

[@dondragmer2412]

I forgot to mention that actor's name was Walter Brennan.

[@dondragmer2412]

To AlarmGoose Her son by Julius Caesar, Caesarian, was executed by Octavian, Caesar's nephew and adoptive son. Her twin children by Mark Anthony, a boy and a girl, were, I believe, adopted by Mark's sister. She also killed her own sister in a struggle for succession and went to war with her little brother, her husband, and he was drowned in the sinking of his warship. Egyptians are proud to claim Cleopatra because of her importance to a pivotal time in history. She can't be blamed for her suicide because Octavian, who became Augustus Caesar, the first emperor of the Roman Empire, would have made her captive and probably would have executed her anyway.

[@broEye1]

I think the most absurd part of all of this s that the creators in one breath complain that "the concept of 'race' didn't exist back then so there was no black or white" and immediately afterward talk about how they deliberately made her black as a statement. If you're going to make your decision based on race, you can't exactly say anything about others noticing that decision.

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

That's a lie anyway, the concept of race has existed for millennia. It just used to be more akin to what we call "Ethnicity" today than the major Haplogroups (White, Black, Asian). Our concept hasn't changed, we've just shifted to using different terms for the same concept. The ancient Egyptians had specific terms for non-Egyptians, be they Greek, Nubian, Arab, Persian, or otherwise. Everyone recognized the differences in ethnicity and culture between different groups, and considered each a separate racial entity. Several different groups co-existed within Egypt, but the indigenous people were their own group distinct from the others (who were mostly immigrants, relocated prisoners of war moved into Egypt by the Assyrians, or merchants).

[@IzzySarru]

@@berserkasaurusrex4233 Yeah, human history is basically full of "These people are marginally different than me and that makes me angry" moments that escalate into horror.

[@housewilma4904]

@@IzzySarru to be fair at first it made sense humans were so spread out that by the time you walked enough to find people who looked diffrent then you they would entirly culture then you. and back then the "evil barbarians" was certainly a fear i mean the assyrians are right out of horror movie cant blame people who ran into them having really negativer views of other mideast men for a thousand years after.

[@IzzySarru]

@@housewilma4904 I'm not saying all of it was unjustified, we have the instinct for a reason. It's just that you can find many examples of us being dicks over stupid shit. Sapience really do be a double edged sword and we're just monke brained enough to cut ourselves on it half the time.

[@TheNachmar]

@@IzzySarru Hey, hey, don't lie about our ability to wield the double edged sword. We definitely cut ourselves on it more than just half the time

[@mesicek7]

She's also a strong woman. That part where they showed her training warriors was so fucking 2023

[@MandatoryMyocarditis7]

lol. Cleopatra was estimated to be about 5 feet and 100 lbs.

[@faithshrine5375]

lol I cracked up on that training scene,also the techno music on the steamy scenes,I literally just watched that to give it a thumbs down 😂

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

And that Rome was essentially a failed state that needed her help. 'Cause it ruled by those evil men who always destroy everything.

[@marcmonnerat4850]

@@MandatoryMyocarditis7 In fact, Caesar's legionnaires rescued her from her brother's prison by hiding her in a carpet, unseen and unknown.

[@calistafalcontail]

I havent watched that garbage but do they show how she married BOTH of her brothers? Cause thats a nice yikes moment.

[@nathanrood865]

As my favourite villain once said, "I'm surrounded by idiots..." Good grief, racism and ignorance is so loud these days. All they had to do was call it "historical fiction" and NO ONE would have batted an eye. By the way, SUPER big props on your research Alteori! (And yes I saw your pinned comment, I definitely did not think you came off in any way other than genuine. We live and we learn)

[@k1988smith]

Say. It. Again. Historical Fiction!!

[@housewilma4904]

cause they dont WANT it to be ficiton this "representation" people never wanted representsation they wanted DOMNINANCE AND PROMINENCE they didnt want there to be a "accurate" reprentation of population they dont want 15 percent of all roles to go to bwak people they want 60 70 80 90 100 PERCENT OF THE ROLES FOR BWAK PEOPLE. look at how they reacted to the poor crew for the lilo and stich remake literally arssing and getting the native ACTUAL HAWIANS playing the HAWIIAN CHARACTERS fired cause they didnt like they wernt bwak cause again in there mind "everything everything not wuhite or asinic must be dark as coal"

[@jljl5449]

I dont care what Netflix tells you, Cleopatra was Hawaiian

[@CT-uv8os]

Naw her great great grandma was Cherokee and looked it!😂

[@gvjudd1289]

☺🥲

[@nhaan4178]

Wait, you must be wrong, my grandpa told me she was Asian

[@Delta-6501]

My ex step cousin who's an sister of my brother's friend told me Cleopatra was Mongolian Obv y'all are all wrong

[@nightmarefreddy0422]

She be putting pineapple on her pizza

[@Goremize]

What I find hilarious about this is that they did a documentary of one of the most powerful woman in the past, a doc on Cleopatra of Egypt, but went so woke and inaccurate that they offended the country the document is about to the point the entire country sued them. Like, I really don't understand why they thought they could gaslight actual history and try to lie about one of the most powerful women in history and get away with it. Cleo was already a brave and strong woman, they didn't need to woke it, and yet...

[@kiplingwasafurry1108]

It's a major pet peeve of mine when historical documentaries, films, etc. do this. It's like "Cleopatra wasn't interesting enough, lets make her black" or "the planning of D Day isn't tense enough for a movie, lets make Montgomery and de Gaulle assholes for no reason to build tension". It's a slap in the face for us historians who actually consider these events and figures interesting, we don't NEED to add tension or "cool" things to events that are already tense and cool, especially when it throws historical figures under the bus.

[@TheNachmar]

@@kiplingwasafurry1108 Alternatively, it can be seen as "we can't have a black person be powerful unless we have them usurp the position of a white person" rather than "Cleopatra wasn't interesting enough"

[@Goremize]

@@TheNachmar Exactly. Like what's with all the blackwashing these days, just like how its honestly impossible for Disney to come up with new characters that are written well and have good character progression. So instead of coming up with new original good writing that has more effort then "character trait is that they are black or gay" Because that's somehow a character "trait". They remake. But trying to remake someone who was actually alive and someone people respect and of course, rubbing it in the face of real historians? I truly do not understand that move. Cleo was better represented in Asterix and Obelix book series and cartoon movies.

[@miceltusav88]

This reminds me of the time one of my friends got bent out of shape because and i quote them "You don't like starfire being cast as black". They tried to say they made her orange because of the time period, and how they were not interested in making black heros. I merely pointed out that if that were the case, then why was Cyborg created to be in the teen titans? Cyborg, aka, Victor Stone, who was a black man who got into a horrible accident and his father saved him by fusing him with machines. Making him a cyborg. I didn't have a problem with the actress being black, i had a problem with them not staying true to the source material and coloring the actress orange. Not to mention they had her dress up as some kind of hooker

[@TheBlackThorneKnight]

Yeah. They could've covered her in make up like how Zoe Saldana's Gamora. It's either the Titans crew were lazy or deliberately tried to stir up some controversy.

[@sunwukong1443]

Or get a Latino

[@jb-vb8un]

was friend named CHERTISHA CHERTISHA ?

[@BlueDaisy33]

To be fair, I assume they didn’t because of TV show budget and they did the same with Garfield. That and em how is her outfit any different from how Starfire normally dresses? Like I’ve seen Starfire, depending on the comic she doesn’t really wear much

[@Cerebrum123]

To be fair the original Starfire, not from the old Teen Titans cartoon but from the comics, was often very scantily clad. The lore reason was that she needed her skin exposed to absorb as much cosmic radiation as possible in order to fuel her powers.

[@FrostbiteDigital]

It's not just the blatant race-swapping that's wrong, they get so many other things wrong as well. They don't even get the timeline right because in the show they claim that Rome was an emerging power when Cleopatra ruled, but in actual reality Rome had become an established power after it had won both the first and second Punic Wars. Two events that pretty much were the catalyst lead to Rome being a world power for many hundred years, at that point in time. Cleopatra was born YEARS after. (Also the Roman armour looks very poor and low quality too.) Like bruh, this is a freaking documentary and they don't even get the timeline right lol. Hilariously enough, Gal could pass for being Greek/Mediterranean and thus would've made a better casting. And this was during the time of the Ptolemaic Kingdom, a time when Egypt was ruled by the Greeks.

[@Burns_RED]

She thought she was living a naive life without Tiktok? It was a BLESSED life. Stay away from that app, people.

[@Dracounguis]

If this was just a historical drama, it would have been okay. But they were selling this as a bonafide documentary.

[@joelhungerford8388]

No it wouldn't be ok. They have been doing this for too long now. Its just a ploy to remove white people

[@k0lpA]

It would have been criticized by history buffs but yeah if it's fiction we don't care

[@sifridbassoon]

When I was in high school (WAAYY back in the 70s), the textbook in my French class had short essays that talked about different topics. One of them was a fictional interview with a guy who was descended from an old royal family. We had an assignment to write up a similar interview about ourselves. Two of my friends in the class (who were black) both wrote up stories saying they were descendents of Cleopatra. When I read them, I thought they were so strange. But I guess it shows that this meme of a black Cleopatra has been around for a long time.

[@randomperson-up5vt]

This show deserves to fail. They don't care about history at all.

[@happymaskedguy1943]

The Smith family are an absolute blight on current culture.

[@Noodlezoop]

No not really but thanks

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

Absolutely. Did you know William once said in an interview that he can't have sex with his wife because it makes him violently sick? It might not be a great idea to take someone so mentally deranged as a font of wisdom. Everyone knows his kids are memes, but it turns out he and his wife are just as whack. I guess that's what happens to child actors.

[@aquaticalateralis]

I mean, Willow at least makes some nice music.

[@StyleshStorm]

The worst part is Will Smith once upon a time was on top of the world with his charm and charisma. How the mighty have fallen so far.

[@elliottbrown1329]

@@StyleshStorm yep. he gets to fall on a pile of 400 million dollars.

[@dragonninja3655]

"she cared about her studies almost more than polictics" the 'documentary' claims. Yes, we've all killed our sisters for the sake of our studies before. So relatable.

[@idonomaeatomoku9322]

Genghis Khan, or Temujin, belonged to the tribe called the bourchikoun, literally translating to grey eyed people. The portrait you showed on screen was one comissioned by his son Ogadai, who drew the Khan and him. While Genghis was grey in hair by the time the portrait was drawn, he still has very notable light eyes, as does his son an his son has very obvious red hair in the protrait. Temujin's wife was also named Bourtai, which means blue-eyed. You still find blue eyed people with red hair in Mongolia. Quick google search of red haired mongolians will show you some of them.

[@LukeLovesRose]

I'm sure they were still mixed with whites

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

The Mongols were always one of the most ethnically diverse groups, being made up of Tatars, Rus, Turks, alongside the central Asian peoples. No telling where the red hair and blue/green eyes originated from. It is interesting that some of the oldest surviving (until the Taliban destroyed them) depictions of the Buddha and his followers showed them all with obviously red hair and in some cases red beards. In fact, quite a few cultures depicted their ancient cultural heroes as having red hair and often blue or green eyes as well. Even in the New World that's true. One of those weird historical oddities, like the common flood myths or stories about dragons that every culture shares.

[@LeeroyPorkins]

Ancient Spirits of Evil! Transform this decayed form! Into MUMM-RA! THE EVER! LIVING!

[@foracal5608]

Ooh big time critical hit against CRT

[@mrgodzillaraptors8632]

Nice reference

[@shinobinokami3462]

In case people don't know the reference, it's from Thundercats.

[@foracal5608]

@@shinobinokami3462 nah it was from uuuh insert completely stupid show reference here sorry I froze :\

[@I.____.....__...__]

>> it's from _Thundercats_ > nah it was from Okay. _Thundercats Roar_ 😒

[@mjgasiecki]

I think a main issue of all this is that Netflix called it a docuseries. To me, this should mean that history and characters should closely match what they actually were. Shouldn’t be based off fringe experts or theories. Especially for for something that is pretty well documented. We aren’t talking about something from 10k years ago where we don’t really know the truth.

[@bewareking6458]

I'm all for a documentary on historical figures of the world as long as it is accurate to the countries' historical records and origins. I wouldn't be so mad at this if it weren't the fact they are misrepresenting said historical figure and demeaning said people from that country.

[@mercaius]

It's textbook cultural appropriation -- they are explicitly claiming another nation's history as their own, while grossly misrepresenting it by intention.

[@KemetledAfrica]

What do you mean, Egypt once was majority black

[@jb-vb8un]

HTTR

[@CT-uv8os]

​@@KemetledAfrica So is South India. Maybe Cleo was Dravidian.

[@metoo3342]

@@KemetledAfrica Maybe in prehistoric times but not for thousands of years and definitely not during the time of Cleopatra.

[@decknamen4948]

@@KemetledAfrica Source: Trust me, bro. Go open an actual history book and not your racist, Afrocentric drivel.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

Should I copy and paste my top comment from the ''Diversity Should Not Be A Trend'' video you made a month ago? Okay, I will: ''Controversial take: It isn't even diversity. Ethnically replacing characters isn't diversity. It's replacement. And it is racist.'' Funny how well this aged, isn't it? Makes you see just how often this shit happens.

[@IndelibleSin317]

As a black woman I'm tired of black washing and race swapping

[@Shineinpoverty]

I was listening that black Egyptian girl and could not get rid of the feeling: people are obsessed with race. It has become a disease that tortures souls. And one more thing that I begin to realize is that people are just afraid of each other, afraid of speaking to each other, afraid of showing interest and accidentally saying or showing something that simply not allowed and then being severely punished for nothing more but words. And as a result we as a society are becoming cold careless units everyone of their own being a nation of almost 400 millions. And then with loneliness we ask, why are there so many mental disorders? Because everything is no longer allowed, because instead of making friends we stay away from each other in small isolated groups of the same ethnicity or believes. Because nobody can be allowed to speak and a chance of mistake. I hate it this way. And with that, I've begun to despise everything that is hiding behind words such diversion inclusivity race gender etc. These words now mean toxicity hate and malice. And my most sincere hope that people would simply move away from all of the above, condemning them first, and then replacing with things that actually help people to live in respect with each other.

[@arthurmyself7183]

By portraying a greek historical figure as being Greek.

[@TheCreatorNFE]

For me, it's just better to stay to with my own. Most others don't support what we support, which causes friction. As much as I loathe this term, we have to stay "on-code".

[@blackprism5381]

I heard about the series and I’m glad I didn’t even take the time to watch it

[@Dracounguis]

Just like what the BBC did Anne Boleyn. And there was zero confusion about what race she was. 😆

[@juanasweets1368]

I’m pretty sure that was channel 5. A broadcaster that tends to lean into controversy to boast its low ratings. Edit: it was also an psychological thriller NOT a documentary. No one complained when the made Henry the 8th 20 years younger and fit in “the Tudors” The problem with cleopatra is that they are saying it’s a historical documentary. No one EVER claimed that about the channel 5 historical fiction.

[@claudiameier666]

still garbage and insulting

[@cjsteadman6217]

Don't really care about the actors playing parts in a movie I'm never going to see, but She did manage to really piss off Egyptians. You know, the people the movie is supposed to be about.

[@BlueDaisy33]

The thing is that it’s not a movie, it supposed to be a documentary and you can’t do this in a documentary

[@Dracounguis]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the Egyptian scholars might be the people you want to go with if you're making an Egyptian documentary not some woke Hollywood casting director who probably thinks Africa is a country. 😆

[@stephenpmurphy591]

And couldn't locate Egypt on a map or name other famous female Pharaohs.

[@samueltitone5683]

Or maybe go with the actual Egyptians telling you "bro what the hell are you doing?"

[@moderatecanuck]

Not really. They are as Eurocentric as the rest of the Egyptologists

[@flacsa636]

The silly thing is, even if Cleopatra was ethnically Egyptian, Egyptians and most other North African Mediterranean peoples aren't even black in the first place and never were. How this "Cleopatra was black" meme ever got treated as some sort of legitimate argument is beyond me. Especially when you have the actual country of Egypt saying how silly the notion is. Not all African people have the same physical complexion and characteristics, it is like saying a netflix series should cast a Chinese man as Ghandi because India and China are both Asian nations.

[@themurrrr]

She was greek, putting it simply, but yeah. You can look up the info on her heritage, it is known.

[@ltchip2593]

Well, theres a surprising amount of black communities that genuinely think that most cultures are due to black people being in power and it being wiped from history. On insta ive ran into those claiming indeginous Americans and mexicans were actually historically black and were the ones who started those societies until they were stolen or washed out by said races, many people believe in this circle also think ancient indeginous chinese tribes were black.

[@KemetledAfrica]

Wrong the founders of Ancient Egypt where black.

[@moderatecanuck]

Pfffft

[@Creekmore]

@@KemetledAfrica I don’t care what they tell you in school

[@cyliemyrus]

It boggles my mind that people think others can't be born in another country and raised in another.

[@RussianJackal]

What happened to the cute and charming college teacher that professor Klump was dating? Everything that comes off this woman in the last two years is just bitterness and poison.

[@happymaskedguy1943]

You know that was a movie, right?

[@RealButcher]

hmm, did not know that. Prof Klump, was that the oversized overweight charming guy?

[@mikaelafox6106]

Hollywood ruined her.

[@realtsavo]

That's Hollywood baby!

[@claudiameier666]

its possible she realizes her only claim to fame is marrying someone with talent

[@natto4now]

To make it fair Let's make a history documentary about Christopher Columbus and we have him played by a black African man The greatest colonizer of all time

[@themurrrr]

That is not how you make it fair. Make a documentary about Nelson Mandela and let it be played by an Asian person.

[@tekcomputers]

@@themurrrr I am going to make a docuseries about Shaka Zulu.... I am pushing for casting Christopher Walken as Shaka Zulu.

[@claudiameier666]

no i want black hitler or stalin !

[@leifareed]

Thank you. Not Egyptian here, but a history lover. I see so many people saying “egyptians are not black” or “egyptian culture comes from what is modern day Sudan” and both sides omitting something conveniently incompatible with their narrative. “Egyptian History” (putting the “ because is a bit reductive, it’s the history of many cultures, countries and populations in reality) spans almost 4000 years. I remember learning from someone that for example, Pyramids were ancient history to Cleopatra herself, bejng buit 2500 years before she was born. You explained it already better than I ever can, but sometimes is not one side or another, it’s both, proved with context and background. However the issue the majority of people have, is with cleopatra and the ptolemys in jada’s so called “documentary”. (My issue is also with the romans, some looks scandinavian, please, seriously? But whatever by now, these are not the only problems the documentary has) I’m happy that someone is eloquently analysing all sides of the coin

[@kiplingwasafurry1108]

As a history major myself I applaud you for how well you looked into this subject and gave good feedback on it. I hate it when my favorite historical figures aren't portrayed correctly in media, like when ww2 movies make Charles de Gaulle look like a shitty person for no reason, meanwhile he was a great and courageous leader. It pisses me off so much because I've researched this man when these people can't seem to read a wikipedia article, and I'm not even fully French so he doesn't represent my heritage. I can't imagine what it must be like for Egyptian people to see their heritage and ancestor butchered by Hollywood actors trying to push a revisionist message.

[@geardog24]

My grandmother showed me the movie Cleopatra Jones once. She says that was the most realistic version of Cleopatra she's ever seen.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

Old wise women like that know what they're talking about. We should probably burn all the history books and just listen to what our granma's say.

[@jacobcox4565]

​@@migarsormrapophis2755 That's kinda like what they said in the "documentary" Don't listen to history books or school, because my Granny said Cleopatra was black. Those professional scientists who spent decades of their lives studying Ancient Egypt and all their culture and rulers definitely don't know what they're saying. The only one who is ever correct is my Grandma, who said she was Cleopatra in a past life and remembers her as being 102% African with a 2% margin of error.

[@crakhaed]

Lol, my dad brought this movie up to me this morning when I told him about the Netflix show. She was a badass apparently

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

@@jacobcox4565 Who would win, the entirety of the scientific and historical establishments, OR... gramma? The answer may surprise you...

[@ninadiamant8937]

If you are dissatisfied, imagine me as a Greek.

[@imariwilliams2353]

how are we not sure that the wig isn't giving Jada PTSD?

[@tymanung6382]

Thank you for your extremely comprehensive discussion!!

[@agm5424]

I have always said/believed that the whole representation thing was nothing more than a "first step" to rewrite history itself in a way that benefits the people in charge, aka the state/ruling class that control the schools that propagates this ideas. It goes like this: First: They start by doing something like giving the mantel/title of fictional characters of a specific gender/ethnicity to another character of another gender/ethnicity. Think turning the Falcon into the "new" captain america or having not Pete Parker as the "new Spider Man. Second: They now start changing the ethnicity of fictional characters, think not-shaggy in the velma show and King Grayskull from He-man as an example. Third: Now they begin changing the ethnicity/gender of historical characters in historical fiction, while making little to no changes to the story itself. Think of shows like the Vicking show, the one with the british queen and the poc Cesar, and now this Cleopatra stuff. Fourth: They change the history itself, whether is the events or the description of the people themselves, in fictional history shows. Examples being the Woman King movie and probably this Cleopatra show. And then fifth: they change history itself by changing the books or the documentaries that talk and are supposed to teach real world history itself.

[@RealButcher]

Yep, seems like that. ❤

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

Yup. Just like the 1619 Project is actively rewriting American history. Hell they've been doing for years thru entertainment; the all black cast for Hamilton being a good example.

[@IronDino]

To be fair, Falcon took up the mantle of Captain America decades before the MCU was even a thing and there's been various versions of Spider-Man's for about as long. Nobody likes the Velma series. The only thing good about it was some of the animation, and inspiring individuals to show up a studio by writing it better.

[@IronDino]

@@sarasunshinemt4444 Hamilton had an all black cast? For one of the musicals?

[@housewilma4904]

@@IronDino yep it was the first this trend of "wace swap everything and tell any who complains they wacist so everyone has to applaud us under social pressure". i always thought the bwak actor in hamiltons looked f ing ridclous they should of at least changed his outfit too.

[@vanessarussell7048]

The director/producer/lead actress can’t back out now. That would mean admitting they were wrong

[@foracal5608]

3:00 in and you're speaking more facts than a fax machine

[@Djurberg74]

There are many black African queens who lived interesting lives, but the American audience have never heard about them and would thus be totally uninterested is such a documenatary. They can't be interested in something they can't relate to, because the Americans in general lack that level of education, flexiblity and cultural curiosity. Also, Americans can't relate to anything save their own present day national traumas and silly cultural wars. Everybody have heard about Cleopatra, so they project their own cultural issues on her. This is not about woke versus traditional, left versus right or black versus white. It is just the same old American imperialism once again! This time the Amerocentrism is barely hidden hehind a mask of "Afrocentrism". But black or white, left or right, woke or asleep - Americans will be Americans... ☹

[@jadonsmith3224]

That Jason Momoa bit 🤣🤣🤣 You're doing great work. Your videos are a great mix of critical thinking and humor.

[@JJ174000000]

Alteori this was a amazing video. well researched and very educational, i did not know that Egypt had a problem with racism, and I read alot about other countries.

[@matthewatwood8641]

It is definitively, one-hundred-percent known what Cleopatra looked like. Her appearance is one of the most well-documented in all of human history.

[@handsomeman-pm9vy]

"CleoBlacktra?" ROFL

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

I've seen people claim that 100% of her images- even the coins she minted- were fake and "whitewashed." Source? They say so. And then one genius who pointed out how "isn't it telling that there were no movies made about her prior to about 100 years ago?" Yes, it would be really interesting if movies were being made about her 1000 years ago, but only making movies about her after the invention of moving pictures is racism somehow.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@LizRealGirlBeauty They are suffering from brain rot.

[@jenothemississippianofmand5202]

No it isn’t 100 percent known. You assume because she was of greek descent she was “white”. Ancient Greeks and Egyptians didn’t look the same as their modern day descendants. The greek dynasty she is descended from would have died out from inbreeding if they didn’t mix the Egyptian population at some point. Cleo’s mother and grandmother are unknown. Cleo likely didn’t look like Gal Gadot and probably resembled the actor who portrayed her, lighter skin, curly hair and dark eyes. The claims that busts of her appearance are as dubious as the claims of a white Jesus, whom we know is Roman Emperor Justinian. The Romans definitely changed alot and took up the culture of their conquered changing it.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

​@@jenothemississippianofmand5202 ''Ancient Greeks and Egyptians didn’t look the same as their modern day descendants.'' If anything they're less white now since Europeans were more prevalent than 6% globally the way they are now. ''The greek dynasty she is descended from would have died out from inbreeding if they didn’t mix the Egyptian population at some point.'' Based on? Because inbreeding isn't necessarily harmful. It doesn't cause afflictions. It only strengthens them. So if Ptolemy's lineage was affliction free, inbreeding would've done little to nothing to worsen the condition of his descendents. ''Cleo’s mother and grandmother are unknown.'' Just her grandmother, meaning she is at most 25% locally Egyptian. Look up Nora Arnezeder. She's a half Egyptian, half European actress. 50/50. Look her up and tell me she ain't white. And that's a 50/50 gal, not a 75/25 European/Egyptian one like Cleopatra. ''Cleo likely didn’t look like Gal Gadot and probably resembled the actor who portrayed her, lighter skin, curly hair and dark eyes.'' Yeah she wouldn't have looked like Gal Gadot, because she was whiter and had lighter hair and eyes. The actress is west African. Doesn't resemble Cleopatra in the slightest. ''The claims that busts of her appearance are as dubious as the claims of a white Jesus, whom we know is Roman Emperor Justinian. The Romans definitely changed alot and took up the culture of their conquered changing it'' So your entire basis for claiming that she was black, is your own pathetic speculation that everything we know was wrong? She has four busts, all of which extremely similar, all of which showcase her as European. She has four colorized illustrations, all extremely similar, all showing her with identical skin color (white) and brown to red hair. We have two written descriptions of her, one of which from Lucian who knew people that knew her, and he described her as ''white as snow'', specifically her breast area, which heavily confirms she was white since white women under a Mediterranean sun tan, while they'd cover their privates most of the time meaning those areas are left whiter than the rest. Literally every piece of hard evidence shows she was white. Cope.

[@mechgouki7999]

Documentaries, facts, truths, all these things mean nothing to Hollywood.

[@serpentinious7745]

They mean plenty to Hollywood. Hollywood considers them the enemy

[@agm5424]

The channels Metatron and Despot of Antrim did videos explaining and showing the many ways how this "documentary" re-wrote history.

[@bjm392]

I appreciate the research that went into this.

[@andrewtaylor940]

Why? Well lets look at this from Egypt's point of view. This is not just rather rude and uncalled for Cultural Appropriation by a segment of the American Black Community of their History and their Culture. It is also a very dangerous bit of propaganda. They are seeking to Apply American Afrocentricism to a land thousands of years old. Claim that nations cultural heroes as their own with no regard to the consequences. Egypt is one of the states that borders Sub Saharan Africa. Historically Egypt, while having contact with Sub Saharan Africa. Black Africa around the headwaters of the Nile. Was almost entirely populated by North African/Mediterranean peoples. To Egypts south lies Sudan. A Hellish Failed Nation State of Warlords and Violence. And now Ms Jada Pinkett Smith has just given these Warlords a Propaganda Tool to convince tons of uneducated bandits, terrorists and child warriors that Egypt actually belongs to them. People can and likely will die as a result of this type of revisionist historical bullshit. It is no different than the crap Putin spews to invade Ukraine. Jada has just given very bad people a populist Casus Belli for violence in the Middle East. well done you ignorant American Idiots. "Because My Grandmother Said So!" /smacks head

[@KemetledAfrica]

No, it wasn't. Where is your proof. Why are you pushing a eurocentric version of North Africa and Ancient Egypt

[@gideonros2705]

Putin invaded Ukraine because Ukrainian government didn't abide by the Minsk peace agreement and for 8 years bombarded the Ukrainian region of Donetsk and Lugans killing 14000 Russian speaking Ukrainians AND because Zelensky went public by suggesting Ukraine should be armed with nuclear weapons AND because NATO would sooner or later accept Ukraine as a member theoretically stationing nuclear weapons, as they have in Romania, directed at Russia leaving Russians 5min of tactical response in a nuclear exchange which say a lot about Western values and intentions in the first place. You left lot of context. Regarding the Russian historical revisionism regarding Ukraine can be claimed if you are a Ukrainian but cannot be reasoned as a motive for the attack since Russians not only paid Ukrainian gas bills, forgave debt and made numerous offers of peace settlement. A strange way of coveting someone history by giving them free gas and debt relief.

[@yousam3821]

As an Egyptian, I wanted to comment about the Egyptian Nubian girl who was talking about Egyptians being racists to her. It is very confusing but the Nubians, while some of them who were born inside Egyptian borders are Egyptians by nationality now, are not considered Egyptians ethnically speaking. They had and still have a different civilization, language, and culture and most of them live in Sudan. So, not every Nubian is Egyptian and not every Egyptian is a Nubian. In fact, they don't really mix. Also, Egyptians and Nubians were enemies in the past during the age of Ancient Egypt. In modern times, they have a big role in Modern Egypt. Two of our presidents had Nubian origins. They participated and had a big role in the war against Israel. Also, one of the most beloved singers in Egypt is a Nubian. But still, I understand the attack on this girl because she doesn't even look like the Nubians we know and she was born in the UK. So technically, you can not say she is Egyptian because she was not born in Egypt, was not raised in Egypt, is not ethnically Egyptian, doesn't speak Egyptian Arabic, and, until recently by law, was not considered Egyptian by nationality from her mother. And, there is nothing called as "Black Egyptians". That's a very weird western term to use. Egyptians are neither white or black, they have different shades but have certain characteristics that make them identifiable as a separate ethnic group. I am against that kind of racism , in which you insult others, but, I am still with maintaining the privacy of my society and its individuality without insulting others. Egypt has a very conservative closed society as India, China, Russia, and Japan.

[@lookarabbit2888]

Lol that first joke slapped.

[@ArnoldFrost]

I understood that reference

[@BreakerInc]

Except... there are images of Cleopatra, we don't HAVE to guess what she looked like, so just race swapping her is flat out insulting, as they're obviously willingly snubbing actual history. If this had not tried to be a Documentary, this would never have become such a huge issue, though as someone with Egyptian Ancestry, I don't like Jada putting her hands all over that rich, wonderful History to begin with, but.. that's me.

[@TheNeonParadox]

My take is pretty simple. If it were a work of historical fiction or something, i couldn't care less if a green alien plays her. But if you want to call somethings a docudrama/documentary, it needs to be accurate.

[@YaBoiKiryu]

She seems to always be causing fights. 😂

[@breevans5219]

It really does matter how the show/movie classes itself. The main issue with this is that they didn't portray this as historical fiction, they said DOCUMENTARY! That implies it's based on actual research and fact! Some people tried to say Bridgerton's Queen Charlotte is in the same lot and it isn't because that series and the original are HISTORICAL FICTION with Regency Era England as the backdrop. That "world" doesn't try to say it's anchored in facts. These are two very different approaches to changing the race of a real person and notice which one has more backlash.

[@dovelove1920]

Exactly 👍🏼

[@richardlopez4318]

Yes, black people in Egypt are called Nubian, because that’s what they are. They are not the original people of Egypt, so they are referenced differently. The ONLY black dynasty was the 25th dynasty. That girl that is acting Egyptian, she might have been born there, but she is not a descendant of ancient Egyptian. That is all.

[@joelhungerford8388]

Likely not dark skinned?! NO she definitely WASNT DARK SKINNED. not only was she Macedonian greek, she was royalty. So not only was she European, her skin would never have been in the sun.

[@Cward5656]

A first i didn't mind black cleopatra. But then the trailer was acting like it was correcting history. On top of that, Netflix told Egypt that they are racist.

[@richardsanchez5444]

I'm not surprised about that girl being shocked Egyptians have a deragatory word for black people. People have deragatory words for everybody. I mean in the u.s redneck is a deragatory word against people from the south. Tree hugger. May not seem as offensive as others but they're still used as a deragatory term.

[@theunnaturalformula]

Love your research and logic.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

I intend to home school my kids. I trust myself with this because I have a deep thirst for knowledge, know how to do research properly, and I've done work in education in the past. Just don't trust other people with my kids. There are people who shouldn't homeschool solo, and definitely people who probably shouldn't have kids if they aren't capable of properly raising them.

[@CevicheGato]

Truly try nomadic lifestyle

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

@@CevicheGato that'd be cool, but I'm more of a forest hamlet guy myself. Ideally, I'd like to find a community of people with their own quality skills and knowledge that I could trust to help me expose my kids to skills I simply don't have. Like, I don't know much about plumbing, and my carpentry is nominal at best. It'd be neat to know someone who knows how to properly tan hide, build a boat, or put buildings together, ya know? History, language, brewing, a bit of microbiology (mostly just Saccharomyceae yeasts though), grammar, gardening, and woodworking are my strongest skills at the moment. I also know how to fix jewelery, and I'm not a shabby bartender either.

[@myosi.]

Interesting Video whatever these super loud meme sound clips in between truly hurt with headphones. 😢

[@God-ec8ni]

NetFLIX BRAIN AFRICA = BLACK EGYPT = AFRICA EGYPT = BLACK

[@Urd-Vidan]

The more shitty things for me is not the skin color, but the straight up fake history about Cleopatra the Netflix shows.

[@JDWalker495]

Y’all ain’t see nothing yet, just wait till they roll out the Martian Luther king documentary starring ‘The Rock’ “I have dream, and it’s for your SMELLLLLLL, what the Rock is Cooking.”

[@vertigo2894]

Martin Luther King's race is central to his existence.

[@KelliRocks]

@@vertigo2894 So was Anne Boleyn's. They should cast that Dylan "Bud Light" dude to play MLK!

[@vertigo2894]

@@KelliRocks Huh? Why are you displaying racist sentiment? Did black people or Martin Luther King create this show? Disgusting behavior. 1.I am not debating Anne Boleyn, we are talking the Cleopatra show. 2. it is completely racist if every time we see anything like this, the first thing you creatures mention is MLK or some other civil rights figure. Even when we are talking of fictional works. That is problematic. 3. In Cleopatra's case, her features are Middle Eastern. There is a very strong rumor about her mother being local Egyptian. The fact she was the first Queen of her Greek/Macedonian line to speak Egyptian and have a connection with the people strengthens the rumor. Now don't strawman me! I am not making claims but to compare this situation with MLK is bigoted and asinine

[@acsound]

@@vertigo2894 There are copious photos of the man: clearly of sub-Saharan West African descent -- but w/this current zeitgeist, let's cast Nigel "Uncle Roger" Ng in a new documentary on Dr. King's life! (/sarc: b/c I do not want the King family to hunt me down.)

[@vertigo2894]

@@acsound Did you understand a word I said in my previous reply to @kelik5453

[@arbiter11171]

These directors are out here saying all Africans look the same.

[@Echo4Sierra4160]

I heard Cleopatra had red hair. There are some Frescoes from Pompeii and Hurculaneum that showed it.

[@ericconnor8251]

Thanks for making a balanced video highlighting Cleopatra's colonial Greek ancestry but also the multiracial/multiethnic nature of Egypt going back to antiquity. Nubians emanating from Sudan were assimilated and Egyptianized going all the way back to the Bronze Age, especially after the Kerma culture was conquered during the New Kingdom. Most Egyptians are brown, though, not black.

[@spiraldown2710]

This reminds me of when Ani3al Planet put out a “mermaids are real bruh!” “Documentary” and then they changed her songs cuz consent. 😏 no ships were sunk and only 1 horse had a heart attack and the persons portrayed in this work of fiction are not based on real people

[@cola98765]

It all reminds me when Rami Malek, got called as "not dark enough" for his role in Night at the Museum.

[@codyjames796]

The open alone made me stay and watch. I taped my mouth shut to keep she who would not be spoken out my 👄

[@itznotdatserious99]

This was an excellent video! Very well done!

[@themurrrr]

I am no historian, but I also distinctly remember learning that especially higher class Egyptians in those times, shaved from head to toe. That includes the head hair. So another things this documentary got wrong. They were all “yeah show that beautiful afro”…. This is not the way to elevate and inspire people. This is just ignorance and vanity sold as truth.

[@sifridbassoon]

@ anna K Ignorance and vanity sold as truth can elevate and inspire a lot of people. 🤨

[@themurrrr]

@@sifridbassoon True. Sad, but very true.

[@Newie69MK]

A very well balanced and nuanced video. Well done, Alteori.

[@Sylus_Domanni]

As a Sicilian mut with a drop of British heritage, I am proud of my Carthaginian/Greek/Roman/Arab/Norman/Italian/Phoenician mafioso background. You race-baiters better not appropriate my rich Cartho-Greco-Roman-Arab-Latino-Norman-Phoenician-Godfather heritage or I’ll scream!

[@KemetledAfrica]

Go ahead and scream

[@MightyMarven]

Afrocentrism is not a new trend. They also claim they were the original jews and the original native Americans. Afrocentrism has also been causing violence for awhile, in 2018 an 18 year old Egyptian girl named Mariam Moustafa was beaten to death in England by 10 black woman who thought she was appropriating their culture by wearing an Egyptian symbol.

[@marktrain9498]

On the one hand she says she's proud to be Nubian, and on the other hand she claims she's the descendant of the people who built the pyramids and that the middle-eastern Egyptians are intruders from Europe. Can't have it both ways. The truth is that she's Egyptian but not "native Egyptian", in the same way I'm American but not "native American". The people who built the pyramids were indistinguishable from Cananites or Syrians or Iraqis.

[@Idontbuyit-no8ts]

Being Egyptian myself I also consider her Egyptian, Nubians have been there for a very long time and are clearly part of the Egyptian history, but she's not ethnically Egyptian, unless she's mixed of course, and if it's the case her ancestors build the pyramids indeed. That being said she shouldn't be rejected for being black, Egypt has a lot of progress to do on this matter.

[@BahDuest]

Thanks for making the vid

[@andreix123]

What I hate about this history manipulation is the fact i find it too important to ignore and i dont really want to fight these idiots

[@LukaGG600]

As a proud Macedonian i feel that this show is literally blackwashing someone from our heritage

[@conner13.c16]

This video made me remember a KZbin channel called Mr. Imhotep who is literally an Afrocentric claimer of Egyptian history. Basically he bases all of his claims in the: “white people have been trying to silence Egyptian real black history bla bla bla” and he clashes a lot with real academics and egyptologists, even reaching the point of disregarding their work just because they are white. Now that is truly disgusting in every sense.

[@ChibaBanana]

Love your video, very on point and informative. I like how you brought Genkis Khas as example. I wanted to pointed out someone who might not be familiar with the Egyptologis circle that Zahi Hawass...is not really that good of a person/arcademic, he has been accused of domineering behaviour, forbidding archaeologists to announce their own findings, and courting the media for his own gain after they were denied access to archaeological sites because, according to Hawass, they were too amateurish. He is very much nationalist and when some archeologist found a potential evidence that some structure in the Egypt preceded the Egyptian culture he accused them of lying and he is also the one who lead the excavation and exploration of the area under the sphynx, he found something there but kept it secret and board it up, prevent other archelogist to enter.

[@silverscorpio24]

Historians, Egyptians, and depictions: "She was Macedonian Greek." Grandma's grandma: "Trust me sis, she was black."

[@RachelNichols-writer]

Another historical fact. Cleopatra used her charm and feminine wiles to get men to do her bidding.

[@animezilla4486]

I swear see if it's not one issue it's another

[@pointeddown]

Jada doesn't care about her own family, why would anyone think she would cared about strangers.

[@robertluna5737]

I can't wait to see John Cena's stunning portrayal of Martin Luther King.

[@TheBayzent]

It's not about casting her as black, is about casting her black AND trying to pass it as a Documentary what pissed off Egyptians.

[@Pirokh]

MLK: Played by Ryan Renalds.

[@onlyoldnavy]

While not black she definitely wasnt Elizabeth Taylors shade per the bust.