Jagex have changed the Runescape mid-game meta

Can we just be happy for Torag's and invest before it inflates unnecessarily? Seriously though, it needed this.
The Zombie axe is a new #oldschoolrunescape mid-game weapon that's meant to "plug the gap" between the Dragon Scimitar and the Abyssal Whip but have Jagex just inadvertently changed the mid-game forever?
00:00 - Hammers baby
01:12 - Major conspiracy
03:23 - Zombie Axe
In this video I cover the Torags Hammer's update, touch on the new Perilous Moons dungeon, the Sulphur blades, the Zombie axe and stale mid-game progression.
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All music in this video was sourced from OldSchool Runescape/Jagex, Epidemic Sound and YourBestFriendJippy
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A link to the gear progression table from Reddit I used in this video, credit to Prme:
/ gear_progression_list

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[@killerfroob]

Super hype for the future of my iron

[@GoblinChunk]

bro thats axe of despair from yugioh

[@sean01208]

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[@ScriticRS]

Thanks man, appreciate you

[@AntiSora2]

So 2 things about the hammers. 1) They should update the set effect to maybe make it so the second hit at least can do 75% max hit, giving a slight bonus to dps instead of the damaging to run. 2) This 2 hit attack is a minimal dps increase if the proposed minimum hit of 1 vote went through, idr if it passed or not, or if it was an overall announced change. So as long as you would hit, you always minimally hit 2 instead, thus making it maybe nice for low level slayer/skips and point boosting, making the kills just slightly faster

[@imadudeplayingadudedisguis5842]

I dont play osrs, but wont the double hitsplats apply on-hit effects more often?

[@shambothelizard3793]

Cool video. Torags idea: There should be a small % chance that the second hit hits the exact same spot as the first hit. This would cause the target (npc or player) to say "ah shit, dead leg" or "ah shit, dead arm, you bastard." If leg, lower run energy, if arm, lower strengths.

[@ScriticRS]

My friend you need to apply for a job at Jagex NOW

[@revan1186]

I need to ask I maxed on rs3 and I'm know doing a ironman on rs3 but I want to try out osrs is it possible to do everything from low to max without touching the wildy Im not great at PVP and don't really like it all that much

[@smokee772]

Yeah you can pretty much ignore the wilderness entirely

[@jagercogswell3091]

Let’s try and get this man’s channel up there so we see this kind of stuff on the regular. Awesome vid man

[@mrmooo527]

great quality video mate

[@Villdyret]

even tho im not playing oldschool, just watching rs vids generaly! but this vid feel's realy realy good :D

[@Francisco-bu9ew]

One gap I think torags could fill is turael skipping. Maybe make it good against low hp/low def monsters. Something like an execute effect that if you one shot an enemy the next attack has less delay. Or make every hammer has it's own attack speed, so if you kill an enemy with one hammer you can use the other to attack other enemy, that'd be so cool.

[@bagsoftea]

Very great update! That is a great idea for us ironmen and will make the grind so much better until whip. Thank you jagex! Love your videos btw, keep up the great quality!

[@thomasdrennan1291]

I just got my whip yesterday! Rip

[@TheMCcreepermen]

Oh boy! Tormented demons! I sure do want those dragon claws and dragon crossbow!

[@fake28rss]

jagex already said the claws are staying in cox and that a new unique will be added in for tortmented demons

[@TheMCcreepermen]

@@fake28rss i know it's called a joke

[@fake28rss]

@@TheMCcreepermen i went back and reread the comment in a joking tone and laughed . thanks for clearing that up for me

[@conspiraciesexposed7760]

Scritic you should mention the osmumtens fang I didn’t wanna rush whip so did Toa on my iron man for the fang and got the whip later

[@99sonder]

If the price of the Axe settles between 300k-1.2m, then it could also be a nice middle stage weapon for mains as well, since while the whip isn't really considered that exprnsive nowadays, it's still a 2000%+ increase in price from the D-Scim

[@Muganhilton]

I like the idea of utilizing more weapon options depending on fights. Being an ironman with a d scim and rune c bow, I don't expect changes till 85+ slayer

[@Ozonencb]

I just want Varlamore, this new zombie thing reminds me of that zombie place in Rs3 that people used to afk train at chaos druids.

[@vahn_legaia]

The weapon gap between d scim and whip needed closing long ago. Better late than never?

[@yungsmorc6462]

Leaf bladed baxe

[@vahn_legaia]

@@yungsmorc6462 ehhh sometimes

[@fosterschutt6125]

Cudgel

[@vahn_legaia]

@@yungsmorc6462 good for only 1 or 2 npcs?

[@vahn_legaia]

@@fosterschutt6125 better than scim?

[@theriotartist]

Can't wait to see builds around Zombie Axe nuking in PvP. 65 attack is interesting

[@Jamesk715]

As a group Ironman, the axe is greatly needed. Super excited for the updates!

[@thegeneral19]

Do claw weapons finally hit twice?

[@arkxszn8934]

The armored zombies are from rs2-3, when you spoke with the spy in varrock and it would tele to the wildy

[@YugeArmsOSRS-qo9fl]

One thing with the zombie axe that'll be useful for mains is to use on Duke before scythe or soulreaper axe

[@ApeviaGuy]

I think personally with the Zombie Axe concept it seems decent to be behind a Lv70 Smithing requirement, however I could see having a lower level such as Lv60 or Lv65 Smithing, but also needing a mid to low level slayer to attack the Zombies could be another way to make it not so instantly obtainable.

[@666chris9]

Nice video, i like your content +1

[@RazorBird]

10/10 vid

[@user-wv3cc3ct3o]

00:26 and mans spitting facts

[@cgrw1]

Man I started playing in April '05, wild seeing the double hit finally happening I didn't bother with OS as I'm not into PvP or PvP culture, but now the community is voting in & getting nice PvE updates & the main storyline; kinda gutted I don't have the time to level a new account to endgame at 07 speeds 😂

[@sirwerty]

nice the only barrow set i have on my iron is torags

[@anorangewithacapybaraunder2370]

You know what would be cool? Level specific raids that drop level specific gear + set bonuses that would compliment different pvp level brackets

[@jordannovotny9996]

The fact that the Abby whip is locked behind 85 slayer is crazy being a lvl 70 weapon. Same with the Trident and Granite equipment.

[@Frothtastic]

not really, that’s part of the challenge lol

[@dm9910]

There's another stealth buff to Torag's hammers. If you hit twice for the same overall dps, that has the side effect of flattening out your damage so that you're more likely to hit closer to your average. For example let's say your max hit is 10, your chance of dealing 10 (or zero) on a hit is 1 in 11 (remember you can hit 0s). If you have 2x5 max hits instead, that drops to 1 in 36 to deal 10. But to compensate, your chance of hitting for 5 is 1 in 6. So basically, if you ever find yourself in a situation where it's important that you hit consistently but don't necessarily need to hit hard, then Torag's could have a small niche there. Unfortunately in those situations you might be better off with knives which have range and hit 2.5 times in the time it takes Torag's to hit twice, so it might be too small of a niche. But it's something at least.

[@Mizt_Sim]

Hey I voted for two hits with the Torag's the other day lol. Just thought it would fit the two hammers, didn't realize there was a meta for it.

[@CyberSamuraii]

I'm 85 melee stats and have a quest cape and still use a dragon scimitar on my iron. I'm happy about these news.

[@DRSUTTON]

Yo that zombie axe looked sick lmao

[@ScriticRS]

MS Paint goes hard 😂

[@westfriesOSRS]

I wonder if it is a good idea to turn my 60 att maxed pure into a 65 att pure

[@johnboy2436]

im maxed with 61 attack so for me i want it to be good!! new meta!!

[@GainsCoach]

Torag set has a bonus in pvm! As you hit stuff it increases your defense. That’s why it’s updating for valamore

[@ScriticRS]

Good point! Although it only works with an amulet of the damned which puts a lot of people off - Still, some decent potential there for perilous moons you're right

[@dongson869]

Literally we need more mid and low lvl pvp and pvm content glad they are pumping the mid lvl content. Waiting for the low lvl content to buff up my pures.

[@allhailfoamy1]

Would be nice if torag was like a budget bgs. Like have a 1/10 chance per damaging attack to drop your opponents defense by what you hit?

[@Jorvalt]

The Zombie Axe should also make for a really good whip alternative for strength training.

[@duxmealux281]

We need it, D-scim at 115 combat is a crime

[@aaronb3225]

If you're using d scim at 115cb you have bigger problems

[@MyNameIsSalo]

why did you grind 115 combat but didnt touch slayer ..? You are 85 slayer LONG before 115 combat. Kinda your fault for afking at nmz or crabs for way too long

[@GGOL]

104 cb here and finally 85 slayer...at 94 str

[@Leviweyhrich]

Who are you!? Good video mate, subbed

[@Zanderb20]

The people complaining about new weapons for mid game players are the same people who cry on twitter to mod ash that they should get to keep their max cape when sailing releases

[@IvankovichArstotzka]

Nah man, it's all about the point made at 6:28. Creating too strong of a linear weapon progression can make getting cool niche drops feel worth less because there's better options that are easier to obtain. Strangely enough adding new weapons can reduce weapon variety in the end if not done well, which is sad

[@xmannkiller]

70 smithing is a joke even as an Ironman. The gathering of materials of it is not cheap but 100% doable with profits at the end. Steen Warhammer/battleaxe from kourend volcano arear just next to slayer master is 2 bar value at giants foundry and buy iron scimitar from AL Kharid 1 bar value. When you finish fremenic trials, you can buy mith claws from the island you charge taxes at also worth 1 bar per item. This will be earning you gp+good experience rate Edit: Start out with 100k gp to minimize the runs for mats you have to do

[@allaboutcake945]

That zombie axe looks dope bro

[@hec8]

Straight to the top tier of osrs update video creators.

[@christiannobile9981]

How is this better or anything other than to be used as a spec wep if it’s 5 tick

[@johnboy2436]

overall DPS will be more. Damage per second matters more than anything. didnt you see the chart he provided? Iv seen two of these now. Seems it will be OP which is good.

[@unorevers7160]

I just came from rs3 and started my first iron. I have to say I enjoy oldschool a lot. But some progression paths don't seem right. Im really excited to have a weapon in between d-scimm and whip. Having to grind 85 slay, alongside all of the QoL requirements you need to have to even endure the grind, is just to much. I like to start bossing and do some mid lvl stuff. There is so much end game content already. Its time mid-game gets some love. While Im at that a mid-game ring and amulett upgrade would be also great. Grinding 82 hunter for a glory and daganoth rings being the only viable option for combat rings is a bit daunting

[@BorBrandon]

stocking up on hammers

[@calamcouzens2090]

Might come back for the axe , fang was a let down payed 179mill for it then went to do mining when. Finish I used for first time and it was 20mill 😂

[@MrCarrot14]

We kind of already have cudgel filling the role that Zombie axe will, but for crush.

[@ilbgentyl]

Huge buff for torags instead of run energy could be every 4th missed attack you attack a 3rd time. You could still miss that third attack but it would roll back into that pummel. Would be a little cooler for low lvl players and would make some steady dps weapons or make its attack speed or damage increase the longer you fight a target so long encounters it would be more optimal. You could even make it drain your run energy for increased dmg/speed so the ring of endurance had more use.

[@randomnerd112]

I cant see the zombie axe having stats that high upon release, it's only half a second slower than the whip and more powerful than the fang without its nerf and stupid abilities, how is that an in between for the dscim and whip? I'm pretty sure it would hit higher than the leaf bladed battle axe even on task with a slayer helm and that comes with the extra req of at least 55 slayer

[@Goose-wedding]

i liked ur zombie axe art

[@thealbertlynch]

new sub!!!

[@Irithyllian]

I hope they buff the soul reaper axe and make weapons with higher ticks more accurate, maybe alter the attack stat itself to improve it.

[@ltrikky6559]

Torah’s hammers should use run energy instead of special bar. That would be interesting

[@Saphiros]

tbh if you're not 85 slayer and need an upgrade you can just go to gwd and get a z spear or a sara sword there's also leaf bladed battleaxe that sits in this exact same spot at level 65, so I'm not really sure this is needed or wanted

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

feels odd for new stats of axe also, like they give insane str bonus for new axe but take thier time to say kinda fix stuff like scythe which lot moaned over and that scythe for rareity, price while also been end game should get bonus like that i think. Also im still fang user and think scythe could benefit off str bonus as to make it useful more for people who own one.

[@IvankovichArstotzka]

leaf-bladed battleaxe felt like such an awesome crush upgrade when I got it. Kind of sad this same level requirement axe beats it so extremely drastically

[@TNTspaz]

I know the reddit is complainin about wilderness but Im really happy about all the recent upddates in general. Scurrius is a fantastic beginner boss and so many things are finally being properly rebalanced Thhey really need a boss to work up towards stuff like Zulrah tthough. Since and new bosses kind of work under different combat systems. With Muspah using both

[@jeffsupplee5031]

I mean it's like leafbladed axe just forgotten about ?

[@KarimBoctorAwad]

Do you suppose justi set will be good in the barrows 2.0 thing?

[@zbabyg6998]

Jagex said it will favor defense....

[@youngphil8766]

A nice and not over the top presentation, very enjoyable :)

[@GrumbleGombol]

OSRS players: We want RS like it was in 2007! Also OSRS players: NEW STUFF PLEASE!

[@glenn6284]

Great update need more content for low/mid lvl players specially for iron mans

[@TKize777]

dude armored zombies were geat back when they first came out in rs3, hope they still drop a fck ton of planks

[@jdblank815]

The axe is cool. filling mid game gaps is nice. Variety is also nice, why is scimitar only viable weapon of its tier up to dragon from bronze. Buffing battleaxes, maces, spears, swords, ect to match dps of scimitars would be great

[@MrAtlasjc]

Would be useful for melee smacks on my pure nher

[@Faebelll]

I mean, i like that they add more ironman options, i dont use a main, mainly because i dont like paying my way through content - so adding more options that a ironman can have is pretty good to me 👍

[@killcybering2]

Barrelchest anchor is the 5 tick 60 attack crush weapon Zombie axe should be 5 tick 60 attack slash weapon

[@reilagji4752]

It will never be used with those stats

[@thomas-jt5uy]

it has better stats then the barrelchest and prob is a 1h weapon. (not 100% sure)@@reilagji4752

[@lampisfun1139]

Dragon long sword is the 5 tick 60 attack slash weapon, and it barely gets used once you have the scim, what’s wrong with having something better than a scim but worse than a whip?

[@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot]

@@lampisfun1139 There is the sarachnis cudgel. It is a 4 tick crush weapon that requires 65 atk, and it has 3 more accuracy, and 4 more strength bonuses than the dragon scimitar. I am not against more weapons between the dragon scimitar, and the whip.

[@johnboy2436]

@@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot still less DPS than scim. Have a look loads of DPS videos on YT showing this.

[@AltijdHard_403]

I think there should altogether be more early-midgame unique items that require grinding. Wearing gear that has taken me hours of grinding the same monster feels more satisfying than wearing quest gear.

[@aaronwalden5417]

Wait so you are telling me there is going to be something to do before hitting 90+　levels in osrs other than just sitting at sandcrabs?

[@ScriticRS]

Hell yeah

[@sawyerowen5377]

Id like to see some of the best gear come from quests make quests feel more rewarding

[@matthewbonfield]

runescape detective on the case

[@tpavoncello]

Now that the axe is actually out, Im quite disappointed it doesnt look like this

[@ScriticRS]

Paint jobby > ?

[@tpavoncello]

Hey, it's actually a cool looking piece man. I think the actual axe is the most boring looking weapon they've released.

[@gregorygejoff1628]

Actually even for ironman accoutns now it's alot easier to get 70 smithing now because of giant foundry.

[@jameswitt8124]

T hams are such a dope ass weapon....Ive always wanted them to be decent....

[@Azletrack]

Wouldn’t it actually be worse DPS since you can’t have a hit after every 2.5 ticks and the max will be 50%, they would either have to round up or down

[@lampisfun1139]

He read the post wrong, it’s not 2 hits with 50% max hit, it’s the exact same hit, but they’re just visually making it two hitsplats that add up to the actual hit.

[@rs_cruze]

Bring it back to when whip or d scim was bis melee lol

[@LilratbagsOsrs]

WTB Scritics zombie axe

[@cloud67899]

Thank God Arnoured Zombies are coming back :D

[@edvp8613]

Finally some content for mid level players.

[@idniilzo]

I had almost 1k torags hammers waiting for them to buff them. Would be nice if I hadnt quit...

[@DwasTV]

what they need to change is fkn adding hotkeys to prayers and weapon spec.

[@daniel69]

You are looking big mate are you hitting the gym?

[@mendelson6052]

Sick, I’m really glad I got my whip in time to make absolutely 0 use of the new weapon and that it diminishes my scim to whip grind. Welp, time to start over.