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[@AJ_Ol]

Might be a coincidence, but almost everyone I personally know that’s against Jagex accounts has bought account services at least once.

[@charlesbrown4483]

I haven't used any service ever and the last time I rwt'd was nearly a decade ago, on an account that already got banned long ago. I don't care about that shit at all. I'm also not "against" Jagex accounts, I don't care if you want to do it for yourself, good for you. But excuse me if I don't want to risk multiple accounts with thousands of hours of effort and tons of sentiment attached it by transferring them to a brand new launcher made by a company who quite literally does not do manual customer support for people who aren't content creators or don't get thousands of likes on a social media post. And whose automated customer support is beyond laughably bad btw. If others feel confident in it, go ahead, I don't care because your account isn't my account. But until I literally cannot play without transferring, I'm not gonna do it. Because when something goes wrong and my account is either inaccessible or gets banned after I attempt to transfer to the launcher, I know 1000% I will NOT get any manual customer support whatsoever because there is literally not a method of contacting a human being at Jagex about such an issue(which is completely inexcusable by the way, pure greed on Jagex's part).

[@bb-anon6746]

What--Can't get your infernal on your own? Gonna pay someone for it? @@KZbinCensorship

[@BurgerJoint.]

Bad business decisions to make it harder for people to not break in game rules?

[@zbabyg6998]

@@KZbinCensorship Accoutn sharing is against the rules, they are making it less convenient. So sue them.

[@KingCondor]

Account sharing is not against the rules unless it's used as a service/to manipulate highscores

[@joegallagher23]

Bro when you dogged that Cape buyer into logging out mid raid I was dying laughing, truly top tier content!

[@garretts.2003]

Which video or stream can I see this?

[@idiotbrothersgaming6457]

For what its worth I had spotty internet yesterday due to having to take the starlink dish off my roof for a few hours. I was getting lag spikes about every 30 mins while playing on 2 windows, 1 thru jagex launcher, 1 thru reg. runelite and every time without fail the jagex launcher window totally booted me out of the game, while the runelite window powered thru with a few seconds of lag then good to go. I understand the reason was the dish but could be an indicator that you could be more likely to get disconnected while doing something important like inferno if you're internet performance dips

[@itachiuchiha1714]

I’ve noticed, ever since I started using the Jagex launcher, I will get a lag spike every hour that just boots me off the game immediately. At first I thought it was runelite settings. I turned off every single plugin and it was still doing it. It doesn’t even matter what I’m doing in game. Could be standing in the middle of nowhere and it will still happen. Completely put off doing any high level pvm content now

[@GilchristRS]

Only thing I wish with my Jagex Account/Launcher is that it would work on mobile. Logging in and out every time you want to change characters is actually aids.

[@ialphasoul2460]

You could attach runelite to the jagex launcher

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

nice. Thx for the video. I figured the topic would peak your interest.

[@oldschoolrunescapedude]

People can bot on the jagex launcher and can make accounts easy still no change for botters. maybe if there changing the detection systems

[@clockblower6414]

I use Linux exclusively, arch btw, and i use neovim btw, and i use a tiling window manager btw, and i don't like that I have to cheese compatibility by jagex's linked methods. It works but it's not ideal. We hit 4% market share, and I'd bet a good chunk of plugin devs main Linux too. I'm hoping for better native support to come to us, especially since the steamdeck made normies accidentally use Linux too.

[@KingCondor]

you should just install windows 11 for free

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

Linux is gay.

[@clockblower6414]

Haha nah im good my operating system doesnt glow

[@eugenesis8188]

Jagex, Temple OS support when?

[@bkisme]

@@KingCondor why are you recommending malware to your fans?

[@BRUHH139]

Rip linux users - mod ash has tweeted they have no plans to support the linux platform. As it stands linux users will have to run this bloat launcher through a compatibility layer like WINE to use the launcher to open runelite... which already runs natively on linux...

[@tormstorm]

It’s not that big a deal, it has become very quickly and easy to set up even though it’s not officially supported.

[@722Moo]

Nobody uses Linux lol

[@nagoshi01]

The jagex launcher in WINE can still pass authorization to and launch native Runelite. So having to set up the launcher is hardly the worst thing linux gamers have had to put up with...

[@LunarcomplexMain]

"Remembered sessions" but like, not everything is remembered, some things are carried over to every client you open, hope they change that

[@currentcommerce4774]

i dont have a jagex account & i was able to play leagues on release

[@kevinmalone1820]

When I make a jagex account, can I make a totally new email? One that's not connected to my RuneScape account? Like a brand new one and use that for the jagex account?

[@Bigtexbbq]

I think you would have to link that new email to your main account somehow, or more likely create a new account under the new email, then add your main to the newly created jagex account.

[@TTVBunnyDougie]

I'm resisting this until the very end.

[@KingCondor]

Gl on hack

[@TeezyTattoos]

@@KingCondorif he hasn’t got hacked yet how’s it going to happen now? Don’t click the links in your email and you’ll be fine kid.

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

there aren't really any linux options available for the jagex launcher. what a bummer if they make it a requirement

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

if i could login with a jagex account from vanilla runelite that would be PERFECT

[@burntfish123]

Click jagex launcher, select character, click play, runelite opens. Pretty convenient and I'm not a pleb that buys account services so yeah it's pretty great actually

[@brianw554]

Does it have quest helper or xp trackers?

[@KingCondor]

Yes

[@dg9509]

Do you pay membership for each account? Ironman and main for example on the Jagex launcher?

[@villanx1]

Yeah. Each character still needs a separate sub.

[@jokerrrr2313]

yeah like before, for any char u want mem on

[@charlesbrown4483]

Yes, you get none of the benefits of paying for a traditional MMO launcher like WoW, but all the inconveniences of transferring over your accounts.

[@dg9509]

The only thing holding me back from making an ironman is the extra cost...

[@zachbunch8701]

@@GomkamfI mean I don’t need membership on 20 Accts can we get a tiered system so if you want like 2, 5, 10, 20

[@pellevapes2069]

Im running runelight on a Chromebook using Linux emulatorn, only able to install the mobile client in Android but runelight works perfekt in linux and the jagex account dont work in linux

[@tormstorm]

The Jagex launcher works fine in Linux, it’s just not officially supported.

[@pellevapes2069]

@@tormstorm oh i need to test that thanks

[@MickeyGRS]

I want so badly to have a Jagex account, but the launcher doesn’t run on Linux

[@tormstorm]

It does run on Linux, it's just not officially supported.

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

@@tormstorm fuck app images

[@zbabyg6998]

OSRS players for years: "We need more account security, they don't care!" Also OSRS Players: "They can't force us to use the more secure Jagex launcher?! They don't care!"

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

as long as i can still play on linux idc

[@andrethyst905]

The only legitimate issue I have heard about Jagex accounts is that the Jagex launcher does not support Linux. Outside of that they're fantastic imo.

[@tormstorm]

It still works fine on Linux, even though it’s not officially supported.

[@andrethyst905]

Ah, is that so? Well, I hope it stays working then, it'd suck for the linux users otherwise.

[@theoneonly2406]

I switched to jagex launcher and actually like it, plus the extra exp lamp is always nice.

[@zachbunch8701]

Hm is that lamp tho?

[@yoga4u283]

prob 5k xp@@zachbunch8701

[@ageofampire2]

​@@zachbunch8701same as genie lamp, freaky forester also gives lamps

[@ScoutMadeThis]

i was falsed banned on my jagex account iron man... would suck if all my accounts were locked because of that but i hope it cuts down on the real botting issues

[@Pizzapartyat9Tk]

i would change to jagex acc except they have no interest in making it linux compatible so if i switch i cant play anymore

[@KingCondor]

L is for Linux

[@anotherglitch2788]

@@KingCondor But what's the problem with Linux? They could write a launcher for MacOS, why not Linux? MacOS isn't too different anyways since it's Unix based too

[@juanhurtado7244]

@@anotherglitch2788 To much engine work for that 5% world worldwide Linux fellas

[@tormstorm]

You can still use the Jagex Launcher and Jagex accounts in Linux, it’s just not officially supported.

[@TeezyTattoos]

Talk about the false bans

[@GoodMrFe]

I agree with a lot you say Condor but I'm ready to die on the hill where I claim that all bots are bad for the game. The argument that nobody wants to pick flax is stupid. You can call me whatever brainrotslug you want but I like woodcutting and the ''boring'' shit that even ape from brazil jungle can do. If we lived in a bot free world then you do not need to go pick flax you can buy it in GE. Or whatever boring content just buy the material. Will it be more pricey? Yeah. But I don't see how that is such a big deal because the boss drops will be equally priced by a HEALTHY economy. I'm also not an outlier, there are definitely people who would do the mundane stuff.

[@eugenesis8188]

Brother. Make a level 3 non combat skiller ironman and get it near max level and then tell me if you still think real people would be able to fuel the game's supply economy

[@GoodMrFe]

@@eugenesis8188 If you want to take that stand then what graphs and stats you have to backup your own statement where there wouldn't be enough suply? You don't. So having this discussion is useless. It's just ''what ifs'' without any ground information. I do skilling right this very second on an iron account that is well into mid game could say im entering into late game maxing territory. Having to bring my osrs portfolio to you to prove that I'm individual who has any value in what he says is so utterly stupid.

[@eugenesis8188]

@@GoodMrFe I brought up that account build because it doesn't exist and requires the gameplay you're claiming so many people want. It's really telling that you're just gonna flat out lie and claim to have an account that nobody has.

[@GoodMrFe]

@@eugenesis8188 What?? I never claimed ''so many people want to just skill''. Are you twisting words into my mouth now? I said that there ARE people who will do the skilling stuff because they genuinely like it. And you nor I have stats to tell whether there will be enough to support GE and the people who avoid skilling like it's an illness. But I will say that we have some stats with bots and data for the current game. We do not have any data from a bot free game. So let's say you are 100% right and there won't be enough people to supply stuff to GE. Ok. Then just roll it back.

[@ageofampire2]

​@@GoodMrFeremember the free trade removal ?it should have been very good after all it removed all bots and all rwt , how about evolution of combat? , sure they could have rolled back

[@Yltimate_]

You've said it before, this is the best thing you and everyone can do to REDUCE BOTTING

[@youknowthe444]

Does it even mention botting in the blog post?

[@Yltimate_]

@youknowthe444 they have mentioned it multiple times and it is implied by switching to a Jagex account that you will have a much harder time botting on the inevitable Jagex client

[@youknowthe444]

@YltimateUIM i haven't read the blog post. I assume botters will not be able to use their shady third party clients if forced to use Jagex Launcher but was not aware it was in the post.

[@stevegoldstein3402]

@@youknowthe444it says “improved bot detection” at the top of the blog

[@gonadiator]

Lmfao this guy is the best

[@TektoniusPrime]

What would happen if there was a data leak? What would happen to jagex accounts? All of those accounts would be hacked, right?

[@Democratsknowbidensucks]

You need jagex to do stronghold of security now. Just went to try to do varrocks diary for ge teleport and was locked out. wasnt able to get final emote for diary without adding acct to jagex.

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

So?

[@dodog33]

Sit

[@zachbunch8701]

Then make one it’s literally like 2 minutes

[@Democratsknowbidensucks]

@@zachbunch8701 Nah jagex can sell your info not mine.

[@jemmieboi3414]

I had an old account (my original) that I was skeptical of playing having been hacked over 16 years ago when I was young (signed up for a clan or something). It had a lot of memories attached like playing with my dad, school friends, etc on it. The Jagex account allowed me to link that account and for it to go from a 5 or 6 character password to protected. I'm all for it. Great step toward better account security. To add it also had some random email made up on it and all of the security questions were just random keyboard smashing. Smart kid, I was.

[@andrewsears16]

I wonder if this would slow down bot accounts...might make it harder for them to restock their farm with new accounts

[@HeyAndrooSky]

I was thinking the same thing, botters will always find a way around it though.

[@charlesbrown4483]

No, it won’t do anything at all.

[@jususi71]

"Upgraded" 1 of my accounts to a jagex account, after that I couldnt add it to the jagex launcher or log in with runelite, 10/10 would do again(works on steam tho)

[@charlesbrown4483]

And having your account linked to Steam seems to be one of the biggest avenues of getting hacked in 2024, so that’s great…

[@jususi71]

@@charlesbrown4483 definetly true, it doesnt make me super motivated to make my main a jagex acc tho, feels like jagex should not try to insentivise/force players to "upgrade" to a jagex account before fixing shit like this

[@alcoholenthusiast]

"Jagex can't snap their fingers and make bots disappear?" bUt whAt aboUt BOT NuKe Day? Joking aside, the context of today's botting issues and back then is drastically different.

[@TwoWheelNinja]

Just switched after watching your vid. I was initially holding out due to early reports of mobile client bugs.

[@JoebsonOSRS]

The main problem with jagex account is if your email is compromised then you jagex account will be compromised and then you will lose access to account and jagex will NOT recover it for you. They send a message saying your email was most likely compromised and its your fault not ours gg stfd. And that stupid back up code means nothing because hackers change ur acct to diff email request new back up codes rendering your old ones useless

[@fissionphoenix4995]

I'm honestly waiting for the day my account gets banned for all the "totally legitimate" alching I did to get/maintain a couple months of bonds. It was quite a shitty experience all things considered, the times I was afk notwithstanding. I'm embarrassed by my account's magic experience and some of my time in NMZ was "totally legitimate" as well. I've since stopped doing things "totally legitimately" like that and I'm aware my account's days are probably numbered by some metric. In the meantime I guess my goal is to make use of the account to gain some actual skill at playing the game so that I can enjoy myself when doing it all over again on a fresh, unstained account. Assuming there's no sort of forgiveness clause I could apply for whenever they do one of those "routine checks" and determine that my embarrassingly large magic xp was alched in a way that looks less than kosher.

[@fissionphoenix4995]

Idk if one thing that might be in my favour is how much I reported the bots advertising rwt websites and shit while otherwise clicking in the exact same spot more often than absolutely necessary to alch things. I almost wonder if my consistently reporting such advertising might be why I haven't gotten banned already?

[@Bigtexbbq]

@@fissionphoenix4995don’t break the rules and you won’t have to worry about your account being deleted lol there is no saving grace

[@stevegoldstein3402]

Just don’t do it anymore and you’ll probably be good. I have a friend who “totally legitimately” suicide alch’d to 99 magic on a fresh account almost a year ago with no ban. Sometimes you get lucky

[@itachiuchiha1714]

I’ve noticed, ever since I started using the Jagex launcher, I will get a lag spike every hour that just boots me off the game immediately. At first I thought it was runelite settings. I turned off every single plugin and it was still doing it. It doesn’t even matter what I’m doing in game. Could be standing in the middle of nowhere and it will still happen. Completely put off doing any high level pvm content now

[@jaywelp5598]

Only issue I've ever had with my jagex account was leagues release day...

[@henkbijdevaate884]

Haha funny fact; ray zysm's stats are almost the same as mine with about same time played. Except mine is a main lol 😂

[@TheTrueRaptor]

I really want to upgrade, but I'm INCREDIBLY hesitant after interacting with Jagex systems for almost 20 years now. I worry that if something were to go wrong, I won't be able to get in touch with a customer support agent (because they don't exist) and am effectively risking my 2k total ironman with ~120 days played. I just wish this whole process was automated, so it's not my responsibility if i fuck something up.

[@lostknight1903]

I suggest switch now before it's forced upon you. As the latter as much more chance of something going wrong

[@bamxz9336]

I upgraded in 5 minutes with no issues. It's amazing

[@therebelofchaos1674]

It's really truly not that hard or bad. took me less than 10 minutes to link everything and I did it first week that they were out. Just do the damn link before it gets forced on you.

[@QuentinofVirginia]

2.2k main, 3451 hours, shadow, tbow and scythe. Been using a Jagex account and have encountered absolutely zero problems apart from the lack of HDOS integration which has been fixed ages ago.

[@faithisprecious]

Don't worry about it. I upgraded my OG 2005 acc which also is an iron with 400 days played 2200 total. Everything went fine as expected. 👍

[@tin-headgaming2473]

yes make one

[@wesleyreintjes8248]

it stil doesent fix it botters have 2 jagax acc 1 for thier bots and other to play on and you can get banned for trading a friend dont know why but when i went bossing i gave my mate my bgs so after that i get a warning ps my mate gave the bgs back ofc

[@kittengaming2746]

Well some content is impossible to do now thanks to bots got tor rev caves and try to do your slayer task with 2 bots camping every spawn

[@reptileman97]

Good, will make buying/selling accounts harder

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

will also make playing on linux virtually impossible

[@shelbyzacher2746]

New accounts have no choice now. You cant complete the stronghold of security without making a jagex account.

[@bigtimegoblin]

Who cares there’s not that many bots at revs anyway 🙄

[@minoritymind]

I'm not sure i agree with "some botting being an integral part of the game." I understand that buying whatever resource i want at any time is the result of bots largely, but the economy would balance without them. meaning the resources would become more scarce, prices would rise, and people would be incentivized to replace the shortfall in the supply. Competing with bots is like competing with AI in the real world. Once labor is so cheap and efficient, they'll displace a large segment of the population. Real players are losing their "jobs" in runescape to bots.

[@leonsayer4010]

I want acount membership not charecter membership

[@Sargaxiist2022]

Everyone says RWT doesnt ever get banned. I bought gp ONE time and caught a 7 day ban. Im a good boy now. Not gonna lose my almost max account Edit: the dude constantly having a reason why he cant use the client at work... maybe you shouldnt be playing fucking runescape at work if you work somewhere that requires security clearance.

[@GizzyPope]

While it wasn't a ban, I caught a "warning" for RWT after splitting to someone's alt account (they were an iron). While they may have gone and sold that gold, why was I the one to catch a warning? What is stopping jagex from actually banning me if I ever decide to do non-ffa raids again (refuse to ever since that) with no appeal? Edit: I have no clue if this person ever did sell gold or not, I only knew them from them randomly joining my ToA team.

[@GizzyPope]

@@Gomkamf that doesn’t stop the problem of a potential ban happening to begin with. A warning is only justifiable if I actually had RWT. Let’s say it’s a 2-step program warning > ban. If I could appeal the warning I don’t have to worry about the ban by resetting it. But the way the message read is if I am “caught again” I’ll just be banned. No room for appealing until after a decision is made. which at that point I might as well of actually RWT’d. Not to mention how many people get banned all the time and get appeals denied. There’s an entire thing going on with some pk streamer atm except his case they claim he botted.

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

i gave my alt 2 mil to flip cheap runes on the ge and it got banned in like 30 minutes for "macro major". never got it appealed. thanks jagex

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

@@Gomkamf this doesn't work lol. its gone for good unless you're a youtuber or smth ig

[@ryanomalley1776]

Get off there jock

[@KingCondor]

Cringer

[@yellow.t4r]

This is for new accounts only. Why are you guys so pressed? How often do you make new accounts? This will help with bot reduction and game economy.

[@reynaldomar6150]

They have the software a capability to kick all bots out??? But they need bots to raise and inflate bonds. Jagex is fucking dumb as fuck

[@bigtimegoblin]

That’s it?

[@charlesbrown4483]

"This will help with bot reduction" No, it will not.

[@williamdoody]

You don’t know anything about bots. Most if not all use jagex launcher btw 🤯

[@KingCondor]

They use the jagex launcher, but not jagex accounts

[@DopeyBloke]

nah its good i dont get hacked anyymore,, and i deleted my microsoft account some fkn how dont ask and theres no way to get it back microsoft said its gone for good. But because i had my backup codes and 2fa still im able to log in using either one of them thank god.... thought thatd be handy for anyone who did the same and gave up.. i needa go to be man.. fwark

[@meredithlevi]

Hey king!

[@OvrlordEtna]

Only downside of launcher is that you cant sell accounts off it. And that is where your downvotes are coming from, rule breakers.

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

or you know.. linux users???????? way to shit on an entire group of players

[@fissionphoenix4995]

If you work in a secure area you sure as fuck shouldn't be playing osrs at work, speaking as someone who was in such a situation with working nuclear power in the navy and would 100% accept being unable to play osrs in any way while sitting around staring at numbers on a civilian nuclear reactor for 8 hours at a time just to be able to call myself reactor operator again.

[@Metallikatzz]

There should be no account sharing period. PKers shouldnt be able to share accounts. Friends shouldnt be able to login on each others accounts. Only 1 jagex account should be logge in based on your Hardware ID. No one should be able to multibox. Or use an alt to tank/scout certain things. Scouts ruin the wilderness. Multiboxing ruins bosses.

[@Metallikatzz]

Literally watched a goldfarmer on Twitch the other day. Use 9 accounts at gwd with Shadows and 1 tank. Multiboxing. Literally using 0 Supplies just farming gold.

[@chrisgibbs804]

That's the way the rules used to be. Except it didn't work. Ppl will use VMs or a raspberry pi(lol) to multilog. You can't really stop it. Or hell, remote other accounts an a server/buddy's pc. They made it allowable because the rule was unenforceable(practically)

[@charlesbrown4483]

Jesus christ dude, you sound like the Stalin of MMO's. Is there anything we CAN do? By the way none of what you suggested would stop people from doing any of that shit lmfao

[@yardpimps8327]

I think its just botters and rwt that have an issue

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

the normie windows user experience

[@Ash-Ketchum-and-Pikachu]

jagex launcher is overall much better just for the choice of hdos, new client and runelite

[@willbone3036]

who the fuckk... besides a bot.. is filling buckets of water or jugs for money...

[@chrisjferro7808]

Your point at 5:03 worries me, i agree with you it makes sense, but worries me because in the event of false bans now all your accounts are fucked because jagex made a mistake and banned your entire jagex account This entices me or other players to make multiple jagex accounts with different emails. (Kinda defeats the purpose of the whole jag account thing) The downside not being able to have the launcher sign in your accounts faster would suck, (youd have to log in and out of the laucher ect) But now being banned falsely could mean all your accounts are banned for a dumb reason, or by a mistake the system detected on one of your characters. Its definitely something that could be resolved if the support for accounts was better for the game, but currently you need to have a reddit post blowup, or have a content creator help you reach out for bizzare ban issues that arent legitimate, or get the attention you need

[@charlesbrown4483]

Yeah the whole idea of Jagex account bans stopping bot farms is just outright wrong, I like Condor but that was a shit take. The way bot farms operate completely defeats the purpose of banning entire Jagex accounts in an effort to remove one person's bots. It's basically just a half-step extra in the process that bot farmers use lol.

[@lolmuffins1]

@@Gomkamf I just got false temp banned on my maxed main after coming back after a year break, getting dragon cup, and then doing 200kc muspah in main game. 2007scape deletes my posts because only streamers and hlc and popular twitter accounts get to dispute their bans on reddit, and I have no hope that the appeal system or twitter will help me. I don't even know how to bot. The ban wears off in a day but I cannot risk playing on that account anymore when I am on a watchlist for the next year and I can get perma-banned at the whim of a jmod that can't do his job correctly.

[@xSevenDevilsx]

@@Gomkamf Same i've had the same main since 2006, I've always played fairly working on my account myself. I've never seen a ban. now that's not to say false bans don't happen but they have never happened to me *yet*

[@zxyen1629]

@@lolmuffins1 post your recent runelite ss if thats true. You can't just say you don't know how to bot and you played this game for 100 years or you can't risk that achievement. its the most common phrasing from botters/rwt/account buyers.

[@Fluid1227]

@@lolmuffins1 I always laugh when people say their false ban posts get deleted and cry its because only streamers get attention, because you can see multiple false ban posts daily from non content creators. Just smells like clienter/botter copium thinking they couldnt possibly be caught

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

Launcher was what saved my Ironman from being hacked. Could of lost 2 Ely's and a lot more. For some reason even after I changed my password they were still getting in. Through an authenticator as well. I unlinked steam as I thought they could of been getting through there. And I made my account a Jagex account and seemed to be fine since. They were trying to log in and brute force the pin. I went to log in and someone was on my acc. If I didn't happen to log in at that exact moment, they could of been still trying to brute force the pin. And hey maybe they will actually be able to do something about the insane amount of bots now! Maybe come back after I'm done with SoD. I also don't get this "making money off bots". If players are willing to spend gp on bonds, you think bots wont?

[@jamesstevens7685]

Listen man I may or may not buy small amounts of gold and already gotten a flag for it. I disagree with banning the entire jagex account for a ban . Just my take though . Opinions are like a**holes everyone has one.

[@juanhurtado7244]

I was on a race with a friend of who can reach faster 99 str. I waste a lot on pray pots and when I reach 99 I take a one week break. When I logged in.. PERMANENT BAN for Macroing Major. Bruh what? I spend money on pray bc I´m dumb how the ruck you run a bot?? Rip my 99 mininig, fishing, str and my kbd pet. Thanks Jagex for the false ban.

[@zxyen1629]

you got proof? runelite has a folder that ss your level ups

[@juanhurtado7244]

@@zxyen1629 Yes, but they did not even give me the chance to appeal.

[@juanhurtado7244]

Update: I recover my account. Some dude hack my account and farm 8 Dragon warhammers lol. No hammers left in the bank sadly...

[@larryw5533]

Bots aren't just picking flax anymore they're fighting Nex and every other boss. Saying bots are good for the game is the most r-tarded thing I've ever heard you say, and you've said alot.

[@KozyCL]

I've seen people pushing 'Oh, the jagex account isn't safe' but honestly those people are just idiots, you are your own weakest link when it comes to internet security, those people need to stop downloading weird shit and clicking random links.

[@ageofampire2]

2 years ago i had weeks of not being able to play because someone was trying to bruteforce my password , i love jagex account because i am no longer afraid of stuff like that

[@charlesbrown4483]

What isn’t safe is the fact that you can lose access to your account simply by making it a jagex account, not being able to use the jagex launcher or RL, and if you’re lucky you might get to use Steam, which is how tons of people get hacked. But hey I guess Steam is just some weird sketchy link that idiots click on huh?

[@ageofampire2]

@@charlesbrown4483 losing access? it is easyer to use your account on pc on phone and on steam by using jagex accounts , if you use some weird hack client you will lose your account in the end , jagex used to give more info when recovering accounts , very soon they will stop offering any info on that front

[@TheFawly84]

It's hilarious really that people wanted better account security for years. Jagex then release better account security and people complain.

[@therebelofchaos1674]

I swear only the Runescape community is this wishy washy about what they do and don't want lol.

[@charlesbrown4483]

I never said a word about account security. What I think is funny are the Jagex simps who are praising Jagex for making yet another game launcher, which is completely fucking unnecessary, and doesn’t give you any benefits of any of MMO launcher(like, no paying for every fucking account). I want to keep my account. I don’t want to lose access or get banned. I know that’s what will happen after I transfer and it’s only a matter of time. And guess what options I have when I lose access to my account? Absolutely none because there is literally not an avenue to contact a human being at Jagex, because their customer support is nonexistent.

[@ItsJustColton]

People mad at this: “My totally real friend of mine and not some random on Reddit got hacked in a very niche and stupid way at his own fault. Everyone who uses jagex account and launcher is at risk because everyone must be as stupid or stupider than that guy.”

[@charlesbrown4483]

No one is worried about hackers. We’re worried about JAGEX. The dogshit company you’re simping for. The same one that makes you pay for each individual account. The one who released a launcher that supposedly has BASIC security features in the year 2023 shortly after their massive data leak came out yet again. You know, the company that provides no avenue to contact a human being for customer support? The company the predatorily prices their game’s membership based on geographic location? Pull their balls out of your throat.

[@CaptnBeeBop]

Honestly it does suck… I have a bunch of failed HCIM accounts that are now regular iron man accounts that could be great starter accounts for my friends for me to give away to them. I wouldn’t be able to do that with a Jagex account /: Mark my words, they will FORCE everyone to have a Jagex account soon. Won’t be able to use runelite without it I’d be willing to bet

[@2014Alm]

Getting someone else's account sounds like a terrible way to start playing tbh.

[@eprimchad2576]

you dont need to mark your words, jagex has stated multiple times that everyone will need a jagex account eventually.

[@lordfizzz]

What's the point of someone wanting to play the Ironman game mode but get a head start?

[@StepmaniaFreek]

Good. Jagex accs are safer.

[@charlesbrown4483]

@@2014Alm Maybe other people want to play the game differently than you? Crazy concept, I know.

[@ihateyoutubedootdoot]

man i was pretty well with you until the "if you dont switch to a jagex account you deserve to be hacked" stuff 😂 truly a brain dead take

[@arturchrz]

jagex is being sold rn so removing bots will bring player numbers down which they don't want

[@KingCondor]

theyre not being sold lmao

[@arturchrz]

yes they are, google it theyre looking for a bil@@KingCondor

[@therebelofchaos1674]

"should you be forced to make a Jagex account" Absolutely. If you don't use a Jagex account I'm immediately going to make the assumption you're either a RWTer or a botter from now on.

[@charlesbrown4483]

You’re completely lost if you think fucking jagex accounts will stop bots or rwting. You might be a bot yourself honestly.

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

dude.. linux. fucking hate comments like this yo i just wanna play osrs

[@Crimsonery]

Resisting the switch to Jagex account has the same energy as people resisting mask during the pandemic, refusing the idea that it would help.

[@TeezyTattoos]

Bruh did that mask save you from getting covid? Foh stupid 😂

[@therebelofchaos1674]

Bad analogy.

[@satanicmuffin9309]

Useful idiot spotted