Jagex Promised This Would Never Release

[@Brentastrophe]

Even if claws are not the situational best for some stuff now, they are just some of the coolest spec weapons ever released in the game.

[@ColonelloRS]

So true, the animation is so nice

[@FANGaus]

I had a pair until my account was hijacked by the Venezuelans :’)

[@Trolleyduwer]

@@FANGaus how would you even know it was venezuelans? lmfao

[@FANGaus]

@@Trolleyduwer shut up, you’re probably Venezuelan that’s why you’re mad 😠

[@0xsergy]

​@@FANGausjagex account or not?

[@AwHellNahhh]

1:54 Not only can the pneck heal you during the claw spec, it negates any pending damage when it activates. You can see how the second claw spec only hits once because of that. This pretty much makes the pneck a solid counter to dclaws for just 2k gp.

[@BeanTaco856]

Same mechanic makes the seren fight at the end of SotE so jokishly easy too

[@MrStone125]

@BeanTaco856 serene wasn't hard to be fair. It's just eat food/brews and mage the bitch with a trident

[@ItsSmurff]

6:41 that login screen just gave me so much serotonin and nostalgia... wow

[@yoitsJ03]

I wish a version of this type of runecape existed. when runescape first got "hd" graphics, I actually really loved the feel of the game.

[@RSWrecked]

jagex just added HDOS to the official jagex launcher its pretty much the same graphics as 2008-2009 claws look identical on that client as they used to back in the day as well which is pretty dope

[@lukebukem4777]

yeah. honestly. RIGHT BEFORE EOC was my favorite time in RS. Graphics were great. Game was heading in a decent direction and no bad updates besides the free trade crap. But since i play an iron now. I think free trade is dumb and is what allows RWT to happen.

[@Greenleaf_]

@@lukebukem4777 No bad updates, except you know overloads, curses, and summoning power creeping the game at an extreme rate.

[@lukebukem4777]

@Greenleaf_ i enjoyed all of these except summoning

[@nZoot]

​@lukebukem4777 the only thing I didn't enjoy about summoning was that I couldn't afford to go past 89 after it came out for a long while🤣 was pretty broken on my turm zerk though for getting the tokhaar especially

[@Hananniee]

(little did they know...)

[@darkdonzaloog]

Another thing that was popular with claws but gained more attention with korasi sword was the Energy transfer lunar spell. Ideally you got a load of friends with the spell that could follow you into the wild and spam dump their energy on you so you'd rush people with just special attacks.

[@irelandspacifist6156]

im actually glad that you made this video because this has been a talking point i have brought up with people and they claim they never promised it and asked me for proof and for clips etc that i couldnt have been bothered to actually find. thanks for the vindication now i can send them this video whenever it arises

[@ColonelloRS]

Glad I could help :)

[@Leafinator64]

Those people must be pretty god damn stupid. It was a literally April Fool's joke one year. Too bad they're pansys

[@SetariM]

Make sure to save it to a separate playlist so you can find it quickly. Gotta win them arguments yo.

[@the_wudarian]

you should get a better friend group than a bunch of losers who argue about a 20 yr old video game

[@TriforceofCourage13]

From what i remember, Korasi Sword was much more feared/hated than claws

[@Equitine]

ya that was my first thought. korasi into a chaotic maul with the highest max. or into hand cannon such fun times.

[@connerdownes2034]

meanwhile im in full virtus with poly/veng set up anti pking the fuck out of all of them

[@BigBoyz33]

Im glad they still came into the game, they are so much fun to use during boss slayer tasks.

[@HarambeFilms]

Can't wait for the Divine spirit shield episode! Love the lore of these.

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you! Thats definitely one I want to make a video about in the future :)

[@007kingifrit]

the claw special attack is also mathematically different than the rs2 one in osrs

[@ssss5619]

yes i believe it used to roll the damage as a whole, instead of 4 splats indepently

[@8BitGamer4life]

The OSRS one is better.

[@iluvtv2]

I used to flip back in the Rs2 days and my entire bank was around 40Mil. I remember putting in max GE offers in every morning before school hoping I would get the claws. I eventually got them at like 38M and then they crashed down to 25M and I was so panicked. Good times. I love the claws!

[@Brandonls4]

overloads are a bit unfair to add when talking about how op claws were in pking, You couldn't use overloads in pvp pre-Eoc.

[@carlsonkearley3727]

Completely unrelated lmao were not talking about eoc combat or eoc wild

[@Brandonls4]

@@carlsonkearley3727 considering hes talking about claws in the context of pking and i quote "tons of overpowered updates got pumped into the game. Things like summoning familiars, overloads, curses and pvp armors allowed claws to reach and insane maximum hit of 129" which just isn't true because you couldn't use overload in the wilderness pre-eoc. - 5:31

[@Shortdood]

Where did you get the Runeshark clip from @5:19? All there video are gone afaik

[@ColonelloRS]

Their Godsword Set From Scratch series was recently found by someone and re-uploaded to KZbin :)

[@Shortdood]

NO WAY WHERE@@ColonelloRS

[@RsChrisG]

You should make a video about Dragon Claws on the day of release in rs2. I don't know how many people know this but they got nerfed hard, back then I had a ton of GP and paid 500m on day of release for a pair, went to a pvp world in varrock wearing NOTHING but the claws, potted up and speced out a guy in full dharocks. (again, I had literally no other items equiped) I'm not sure how long it was before the nerf, but if you could find any info on it, would be interesting and maybe you could make a video grouping that in with how insane the blowpipe was in PVP on it's day of release before they make it a tick slower against players. Edit: Before someone asks me how I paid 500M on DOR when the trade limit was still a thing, back then there was "junk trading". Look it up if you don't remember.

[@ColonelloRS]

That sounds awesome haha, I'll have to see what information I can dig up

[@RsChrisG]

@@ColonelloRS It was insanity for the short time before the nerf. I'm not sure how long the nerf lasted, I pked with them for maybe 3 or 4 hours before panic selling them to someone a little while later as the price was diminishing quickly.

[@JD-re3cj]

@@RsChrisGyou know Jagex can be very dumb at times when they have to nerf an item 3 times like they did with the blowpipe. And it took years

[@RsChrisG]

@@JD-re3cj Yeah man, it was insane lol. Like just imagine right now, naked with Claws 99 str potted hitting around a 70 with one spec, no bonuses. and on a guy in full dh lmao. I'll never forget that shit, i was mad too because the loot was like 70k.. memories of pking people for mils and getting little statues n shit.

[@grimreaper686]

Love the animation but my favorite thing about claws was always the spec had multiple hit splats on the screen at the same time. Didn't matter if i hit 4 0's, there was 4 splats on my target and i liked it.

[@spiritofnex]

Claws were really well balanced when they released in osrs, and they're still great weapons today.

[@N0skGaming]

Miss the OG version of dclaws and godswords but RS3 is dope af aswell.

[@tvdvd8661]

Claws used in meta for rs3 still

[@spiritofnex]

@@tvdvd8661 I've never seen anybody use claws in rs3. Jagex added chaotic spikes to turn dragon claws into chaotic claws, but even that didn't help. There are so many better weapons in rs3, especially at tier 60. And even if you only wanted to use it for the spec, it takes up 2 inventory slots instead of 1, making it not very worth it as a spec item.

[@ViveLeQuebecLibreTabarnak]

@@spiritofnexpeople who do high end PVM camping melee will sometimes use a dclaws EOF as an adren dump, it’s quite common among melee users. Nobody just uses straight up d claws though. It’s always just the EOF spec.

[@spiritofnex]

@@ViveLeQuebecLibreTabarnak That make significantly more sense. I thought he was talking about claws themselves being meta, but just their spec with EoF makes sense.

[@nicderemer1]

Korasi when it was first released was more overpowered because you could get it for like 150k

[@5uper5kill3rz]

Mod Ronan / MLgudi videos back in the day 😍 good times

[@FSAPOJake]

I know Mod Ed is a huge While Guthix Sleeps fan and wants to eventually get it in OSRS once it fits the storyline. I wonder what will be done to the tormented demons since they obviously won't be dropping dragon claws? Unless they will, just at a nerfed drop rate.

[@ColonelloRS]

Interesting! I always loved the look of Tormented Demons so I hope they return someday, although maybe with different mechanics since they're so similar to Demonic Gorillas.

[@AwHellNahhh]

Not only that, but we already have Demonic gorillas in the game, which are really similar to how Tormented demons were in pre eoc. I'm guessing the tormented demons osrs will be getting will be very different from pre eoc tormented demons because of that.

[@GhostlyGhille]

Tormented demons >> Demonic Gorilla substitutes. I loved that questline.

[@VColossalV]

When the wilderness was brought back in RS2 I made about 2 bill within the first month, mainly just claw rushing on a perfect turmoil Zerker account on unsuspecting mains. Rushers used to hide under those seeds you could turn into a plant. I was that guy. The anti-rush meta with Korasi started becoming a thing around then too. Combo eating certainly was a thing back then. Also, claws when they originally released had a guaranteed hit, later they nerfed them by introducting the dreaded 0-1 hit which was fairly common.

[@HemmiezRS]

saw the title and instantly remembered watching qa's back in like 2014 where they explicitly said they would NEVER bring claws, vls, and divine spirit shield into the game, overall i'd agree they made the right decision, but it's definitely funny to look back on how absolute denial turned into welcome acceptance within like 2 years

[@DjMindis]

We need the decision reversed for original HD as well. Thier excuse of being lazy arses to spend months makes even less sense now that osrs is over a decade old

[@erickchristensen746]

This video just made me wish they’d give us a OldSchool RuneScape HD mode from the 2008-2012 era. As much as I love the old RS2 graphics and animations, I did love the HD changes for the most part. And then EoC ruined it xD lol The current HD Runelite Pluggin is very nice but just not the same

[@Zehiret]

Play with HDOS client then

[@GhostlyGhille]

2011-2012 rs was better than 07 by miles

[@erickchristensen746]

@@Zehiret Only RuneLite is allowed by Jagex so no thanks. I’m not about to be banned for something like that

[@Zehiret]

hdos client is allowed by jagex wtf@@erickchristensen746

[@PLmatiPL]

Remember having ags and claws at once in 2009. Felt like god (90m for ags and 40m ish for claws).

[@aaronloiselle3651]

Doesn't count when you buy gold lol.

[@PLmatiPL]

@@aaronloiselle3651 didnt need to. Barrows items prices were at the top back then, that's how.

[@Araxoth]

@@aaronloiselle3651everybody buys gold, you got to be some special kind of stupid sitting in your late 20s grinding some boss for 4 mill an hour when u can buy 20m for one hour of your jobs worth lmfao - times change dawg, i dont like it either but its the truth

[@Zak-jt6nk]

I had both and would act nooby at the duel arena and deathmatch people with melee only no gear limits no pots no food I'd destroy everyone with max strength double claw spec or claw to ags while they would maybe get 1 ags on me lol

[@nohate1286]

@@aaronloiselle3651people like you give OSRS a bad name, hate on own player base almost as much as you hate your own mental health. Hate to see it. 😂

[@johngalbreath9394]

The NighmareRH clip at 5:54 brought me back

[@savage77z]

Did someone say tormented demons that was my specialty. I think I got over a dozen claw drops 2009-2011

[@FortifiedIllusion]

Rip tormented demons, I'm guessing demonic gorillas are pretty close. Would be nice if claws were obtained by tormented demons I never got to fight back in the day

[@Jennn]

I really like how you tell these stories and how they are produced. I even enjoyed your ad. Thank you for providing this video for us!

[@ColonelloRS]

I really appreciate that, thank you!

[@erwidobi7812]

@Jennn fuck me; what heaven did u fall out from lol

[@zzzarkka]

I never thought for a moment dragon claws wouldn't make its way into the game. Too iconic not have on an RS2 server backup of 07.

[@austiniscoolduh]

i was pumped when it was released because its part of my nostalgic past. I was obsessed with being a 1 def dclaw pure (and whip/ags pure) at the time. This was before that type of pure was really even a thing.... like in 2008 i think.

[@Sousabird]

Fighting people with dclaws is great if you want to roleplay a guy getting murdered by Wolverine

[@SenapaiGaming]

starting to become one of my fav channels....synthwave and runescape! keep it up

[@NoMoreQQ]

At 6:00 lmfao OSRS didn’t come out 3 months after EOC came out 😂. Everyone sure wished it had though.

[@ColonelloRS]

It was 3 months and 2 days exactly :) EoC released on November 20, 2012 and OSRS on February 22, 2013

[@CarlosSuarez-tk8qk]

I used to stake maxed pures lvl 98 at the duel arena via “clawing”. I was the same lvl except with 85 attack / def and like 65 str. I would instead pull out DFS + SOL spec and watch their claw specs hit 0s and 1s whilst I slowly kill them 😂

[@Greg_Buckingham]

Hey that was me trolling at Kraken lol 8:40

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

1:02 Dclaws used 25% spec no? So you could use them 4 times?

[@Josh-jw3go]

You're thinking of the dragon dagger

[@Bowfa]

So nostalgic. Love the videos dude

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you!

[@Volkain10]

As someone who played back then I can assure you the old claws were a force to be reckoned with. The biggest reason they were bullshit was because the low price meant people would just hang out near the wildy entrance, hop the pit and spec you as soon as you won a fight meaning they would get both the loot from whoever you just killed and whatever loot you were carrying all while risking absolutely nothing. This was called “PJing” and it was extremely common. It pretty much ruined a lot of edgeville pvp back then. It got so bad that a popular money maker was simply going to a pking world, sit at the side, wait for someone to PJ, then come in and pick up whatever scraps they left behind. You could make a surprising amount of gold on a fresh account with no skill investments simply doing this until the scavenger bots took over and started collecting everything immediately.

[@Equitine]

"they can just keep repolling the same thing" sort of like what they did with the magic crafting skill...or sailing...probably others but these two i remember. especially since they did sailing so many times it actually passed.

[@thereptyler]

Your video segment for Factor is off by a minute. You put it ending at 4:27 when it ended at 3:27.

[@heavyiron3572]

You know whats crazy, oldschool is legit rs3 but more barney style. They copy and pasted nearly every aspect of it. Tormented demons are the same as demonic gorillas with the z-shard drop, instead of claws. Chaotic Maul and Rapier is just the grazy Rapier and elder maul. The gauntlet is a half-backed farce of Dungeneering. It just keeps going too. Now they added the "korsie sword" too.

[@Makem12]

Jagex lying to us and implementing items and features they shouldn't? Never🙄

[@MikeSmith-lw4li]

9:20 that's what happened with VLS, and the new skill.

[@QPoily]

IMO the bigger reason why dclaws aren't as 'OP' as they used to be is because ranged powercrept the living shit out of KO combos with dragon knive/thrownaxes/ballista combos. In comparison the dclaws are simply too slow and don't have the kind of stack damage those kind of combos do.

[@boss2329]

Ah yes, my favourite quest, "Well, Guthix Sleeps"

[@2147B]

i never click out of your videos, always a great listen/watch while scapin

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you!!

[@MichaelChiklisCares]

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[@FreakzDontSleep]

love these lil history vids

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you!

[@cdallen46]

Ha! I just bought my first pair of d claws today after getting two pairs of ranger boots from 100 medium caskets. What a coincidence!

[@BecauseBen]

I remember fighting dragon claws a lot back then and they were absolutely busted. Much more so than AGS. I used to do 1 on 1 normal duels back then (Classic "funning" no food and pots with no overhead prayers when that was a more common thing) and they would shread through my armour much more often than AGS.

[@Godzeller3143]

I bought a set of d claws when they were first released in RS2. It wiped my cash stack, but it wasn’t too bad (like 30m if I remember right). I sold them as I just never had a use for them and was young and didn’t realize how strong they were. Yes, I am a moron.

[@AlienFoodage]

Damn I miss those 09 graphics! Love the vid

[@christianmain6342]

bro that chicken in the ad looked drier than Death Valley ngl

[@TheRileyg98]

"Repolling the same thing over and over" you mean what Aziya did with the barrows gloves replacement for pvp?

[@tvdvd8661]

5:40 Tfw Necromancy can hit 300s (30k) at level 70 with t70 weapon and armor You dont know overpowered

[@SinDragon]

I remember when they added the joke ones, it was funny af haha

[@Astral-Wubs]

Huh I don’t remember the Ags being 120m when claws were released unless it’s just been that long aha.

[@hyperkaioken4982]

uhh since when could u use overloads in the wildy back then?

[@andrewjackson1459]

That was 2008!? I feel very old.

[@Ashvek]

I've only recently started watching your content and I've been tossing it around in my head about wanting to start playing RS, the only thing stopping me right now is getting an idea of how the community at large treats new players. I'll admit, always a problem for me for just about any MMO, even ones without text chat or the like XD

[@BlackEyedkoala]

And then and then we get the korasi……..

[@MCshadr217]

I mean, what about the Dragon Kite? Jagex literally made a whole joke item about it, and now it actually exists.

[@Grindhardballhard]

They also said they wouldn't release special attack ring yet here we are

[@ArchonZach]

Lovin all the hypercam 2 clips

[@gramozosss1]

I remember on the day of release claws were 250k lol.

[@ThatsRNG]

AGS was and thankfully still is the best high level KO weapon in game. Even better than that scuffed Korasi, so old school is still old school awhile longer 😊

[@ByrandOfficial]

To be fair EOC has massively improved since it's initial release. I doubt RS3 would have gotten Necromancy, as it is, without it.

[@Makem12]

"Repolling over and over until they got the outcome they wanted." Like sailing.

[@Skoobzzzz]

I think we just don’t see the decimal position currently. Like you can hit .5 and it could look like a 0 but if you hit another .5 it comes up as a 1 I believe.

[@GhostlyGhille]

Wgs was one of my favorite quest and quest lines

[@J3dotgg]

Overloads were not allowed in PvP until EOC by the way

[@ColonelloRS]

They briefly worked in PvP for two days after they released before Jagex decided to make them PvM only :)

[@J3dotgg]

@@ColonelloRS Fair shout :P

[@nocapvisualz]

I would argue this video should be about the korasi lol.

[@BoredErica]

Dclaws used to be more accurate than AGS and had minimum dmg of 1 no matter what. It's current dclaws that's less accurate than ags. AGS was expensive in large part because it was cool. People did not know about phoenix necklace or tick eating back then. Many players were using godsword unironically as a main weapon, so they sure as hell weren't used those strats back then.

[@Leafinator64]

*double specs you with a voidwaker* So they add claws, (said they would NEVER) and then add Korasi with an EVEN STRONGER spec than it inittialy had, bravo. This game started going downhill ages ago, Im truly worried about the content to come. With Reddit controlling the polls and the jagex team just re-skinning rs3 content and putting an osrs logo on it like it's original idea is sad.

[@SteadfastHero]

You deserve way more views

[@Patrick.Weightman]

9:10 This is literally how all state politics work and it drives me insane

[@Dystraxion_Ak]

Love ur content man keep it up!!

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you!

[@AlbinoMidge9377]

We fine until that korasi-vigour gets introduced

[@connorhurley-winter3006]

We have voidwaker and lightbearer

[@silverscreen4522]

Another banger. ❤❤❤❤

[@MsUltrafox]

Factor the microwave dinner that is not new just the latest microwave dinner version since 1996.

[@Doabubba]

I'm glad claws came back games not the same without them.. Please bring hand cannon back... I know it won't happen but shit

[@luxrideraow5057]

Pretty sure claws is more accurate than AGS. AGS spec is twice the accuracy, while d claws is x4. If any of those 4 slashes rolls a hit the entire damage lands.

[@vikingraider712]

I want option for rs2 graphics that runs smooth like 2008 computers for people that dont have expensive rig runelight hd and hd client for some reason dont run well

[@AppalachianLumberjack]

Thats crazy that these days ags and claws prices literally switched today claws are close to 100m and ags is about 10m crazyy

[@demigod8522]

Claws made Dragon Daggers look like sticks when it came to the special

[@ainmosni22]

Claws are more accurate than the ags. Ags has a higher attack bonus, but claws have four opportunities to hit. Even with a lower max hit, your expected damage per special attack is much higher. Same concept that makes the fang powerful. Claws arent good because they're cheap or have low requirements, they're good because you have 8 chances to hit per spec bar, heavily weighted in favor of hitting big numbers (If your normal hit chance is 50%, you have a 75% chance of getting a 3 attack spec, 85% chance of at least 2). The expected damage difference scales UP vs higher defense enemies, even if the overall expected damage goes down. Vs a pure you can expect a special attack to be three times higher on average than a normal attack, scaling up to 9x damage at very high defense levels and gear. So yeah, videos great but it kinda misses the main point on why claws are great, which is higher accuracy granted by multiple, rapid attack rolls that scale better vs high defense levels than any melee spec weapon outside korasi

[@6bakerbrain9]

Hey Colonello, just wanted to suggest something from a long time fan: When you end your videos, I sometimes want to watch the one you’re talking about on screen, but I don’t have the time to click it, as there is no time until the video ends. Maybe give 5 seconds more before the video ends when you’re done talking? I would love it at least! Poggers? ❤

[@PapayaHammock]

It’s unfortunate how unappetizing that burger looks

[@RealCool64]

use to be rank 1k on bh on rs3 not sure nowdays but almost all my kills where from sitting under them plants veng stall into claw rush ahah

[@unums]

I think you meant *Korasi/Voidwaker.* But, hey, Content is Content!

[@andrewgrossman7]

Can we talk about 2008-2012 being many people's favorite era of runescape? I think he meant 2007-2012. It is actually offensive to hear 2007 being forgotten about considering osrs is based on 2007 lol

[@jayuice1234]

man those were the days bro could make a decent amount of money loaning your claws or ags too. You and and friend could get Bandos down to almost 0 0 by the time you both speced your claws with turm and ovuls

[@CHESTER9871]

I remember I bought them for like 250k and over a short period of time they raised to like 24m if i remember correctly

[@epic1053]

Dragon claws are actually more accurate than AGS at least for the special attack, dragon claws roles 4 times and only 1 of the hits needs to land for all of them to count.

[@LooseGooseGamer]

add summoning or something other than a dfs for tanks to use.

[@_zarthix_]

They were a member item and I could never afford a membership even 20 years later

[@TheBooboo1992]

I love these unfounded takes that curses were overpowered when piety is just as strong. It’s like most of these people didn’t even play rs2

[@HavocParadox]

if i remember correctly.. yuo couldn't use overloads in pvp back then.. not till Eoc.

[@ColonelloRS]

Yup you’re correct! When they first released they only worked in PvP for about 48 hours before Jagex decided to make them PvM only.

[@kingkaga898]

Early days of osrs were so great. The game has lost their way, again.

[@fredfredburger288]

Did he really just say we got osrs a few months after the EOC update? Is that correct I thought it was years!

[@ColonelloRS]

Yup! EoC launched in November of 2012 and OSRS launched in February of 2013. :)

[@karlos42O]

You couldn’t use overload pots in the wildy…