Jaguar & Land Rover Ingenium diesel part 2. Timing chains, balance shafts - would I buy one?

[@jonjones6583]

Definitely will consider your services for any future work on my vehicles. A very committed young man in his trade, Great to see in this day and age. Keep up the excellent work.

[@jrvehicleservices]

Thank you!

[@mazdaman1286]

The old Peugeot Citroen 1.9 and the 2.0 litre diesel engines could cover mind blowing mileages with simple routine servicing, , mine did 400,000ish before being rear ended, the engine lives on in a van somewhere. Now we have engines with a lifespan of a few years and less than a 100,000 miles before major surgery is required. Where exactly was the great leap forward in technology? ❤

[@cp4512]

Yep, not exactly good for the environment to have engines last only 1/4 the mileage life of old engines….

[@jrvehicleservices]

That is exactly the type of thing I mean, those engines were awesome!

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

It's deliberate. These companies are controlled by the WEF and this is part of the plan to make car ownership unaffordable for normal people.

[@pda49184]

Great stuff Josh. I'm impressed with the design of these engines and even more impressed at the quality of the work you do to keep them running.

[@k20aa]

Omg those engines look like nightmares

[@angusshapland2273]

Wellseal, wonderful stuff with a wonderful smell. I was using it on bike engines in the 1960’s !!

[@sprograt]

This technology is supposedly progression in my opinion its regression. Loving to videos since I first watched you on Salvage Rebuilds, keep up the good work.

[@miller333]

Cracking few videos to watch, finally good content to watch for ingenium engines

[@gold27b]

I admire your expertise 😊

[@Gearoid35]

Good video lads a lot of work there doing the balance shafts

[@jrvehicleservices]

Quite a bit yes! Not too bad if doing chains already

[@livesgas]

PSA 2.0 HDI 8 valve. One of the best diesel engines ever made. Modern engines that chase the ultimate in efficiency, fail prematurely.

[@jrodri14ii]

“A bit of a faff” TIL. I’m fighting with a dropped balance shaft that’s stuck in there myself.

[@ianjeffery3762]

I just found your channel! You guys replaced my time Ng belt on my black 2007 Freelander 2 back in 2020 ish...

[@colinblythe3710]

FYI :- the motor home - they need a a HEAVY DUTY commercial clutch in them with a stronger spring pressure - as the weight of the van burns them out - if you fit the standard peugeot boxer clutch 👍

[@4042buchan]

I got the 2.0 ingenium rear wheel drive and its giving me the absolute fear, if something does go wrong and the repairs run into thousands i think I'll be scrapping it, bought the car thinking i was buying quality not to throw money at it, my 2005 mg zs didn't give this much worry

[@marklondon2008]

I'm looking at a 2016 Jaguar XE 2.0 Diesel. Is there anything I should look out for? It's got FSH and 60k miles. Seems ok - but you never know with this new engine. i can put an OBD scanner on it before buying. Any advice is appreciated. Also, your office isn't too far from me, your knowledge and professionalism means you'll probably get some work from me.

[@brianb7636]

Great to see Wellseal in use here. Been using it for years, brilliant stuff.

[@JustMe-Dude]

not familiar with wellseal here in the USA. is that similar to permatex aviation 300 ?

[@jrvehicleservices]

It's awesome stuff

[@brianb7636]

Possibly. It's basically a form of Shellac but Rolls Royce developed it. 1 tin lasts forever.

[@simonhughes3705]

good work gents. been asked to do one but refused because could not justify the cost over the special tools! customer got a bit arsy till i sat down on the laser site and showed the the cost of tools alone for one job.

[@jrvehicleservices]

Cheers. We bought the genuine tools as they weren't available from Laser at the time!

[@brianhume4743]

Great video again, just saying from North of Newcastle 👍🇬🇧🍺

[@salisburyplain998]

Thank the lord we off loaded our 2017 evoque before it detonated 😅

[@garymiller7218]

Very good video, very complicated hope mine doesn't break, ill take it all the way to you if it does

[@robertfisher7009]

Have you released part 3 yet? I cant find it. I have a 2018 F-Pace with the 2.0 diesel Ingenium on 60k miles. I have only had a it a year without any issues and I love it. But having seen your video and finding other negative stuff, I am now thinking that I had better change this car soon!

[@jagvolvo33]

no just get a compression test done if its all ok then change oil every 3k and spend 3k on new chain and what not it ll be good after that. my guess is your going lose about 10k or poss more in real terms if you sell it , ive got 2016 with 65k on it and thats the conclusion ive come to.its a jag there always going to cost doe to look after them properly fact of life. the 6 million doller qustion IS can it be saved if you spend that 3k and check EVERYTHING every 3/5k ? not me i love old volvos its the mrs fpace ,paid 25 for it 3yrs ago with 25k on it ,if sold it now lucky get 10 for it, so figure best spend another 3k and hopefully get another 100k out of it , well thats my loginic in it all . the other thing is would i trust anyone do the job ?? if i dont bite the bullit and do it myself this kid and his crew from what ive seen are the only people id go to. SO he says at the end "would i buy one"? yes i would "

[@almousaim]

Great job. How much it cost to change chine and balancer please

[@tezblackwell6796]

Very clever people 👏👏👏

[@JamesHeath-o6o]

I have a 2016 Discovery sport are the engines the same as 17 1819 and 20 thank you

[@mohamedelasmai8371]

Merci pour votre video.svp a quoi sert les deux couvercles en plastique jaune ?

[@Tec2Nut]

Would this be recommended when haveing the timing chain done ?

[@johnthebeekeeper1706]

Please enlighten me with all the modern technology in engineering why do these engines need balance shafts am I missing something

[@alpinab14]

Would love to see loads of content on the jlr 3.0d v6 diesel engine thanks

[@jrvehicleservices]

We don't see as many but we do see a fair few! Inlet manifolds are quite common

[@alpinab14]

Yea keep seing the inlet manifolds cracking on the forums but also spun main bearings and snapped crankshafts pop up from time to time also , not much coverage on the 3.0d engine even tho they are used in a lot of cars across the range so any content on the xf and those 3.0d I think would be welcome

[@jrvehicleservices]

@@alpinab14 cranks definitely definitely happen but not as common as say the chains on the 2.0

[@alpinab14]

Awesome thats no bad thing 👍

[@stevewaghorn2029]

Whats wrong with a slot to time the balance shaft?, the shaft is on a taper pulley so it is infinitely adjustable anyway. I wonder where all the worn metal and bearing material goes..... no wonder why the engines grind themselves to death!. Seeing the way the balance shaft times up is exactly the reason why I will never own a JLR product!. Loving the in depth content, thanks Josh!.

[@jrvehicleservices]

I've got no idea why they couldn't just put keys on the lot to be honest! Be miles easier!

[@maximz3850]

I have seen the video and am fascinated by your performance. I'm from Germany myself and would make my way to you if the chain and balance shaft Need to be replaced. Now I have the problem with the piston rings. What would the costs be for you if the whole thing is replaced? If you still do it at all.

[@DR-pb9rx]

Where is more detailed video of timing chain replacement? I was watching it couple days before and now I cant find it anymore.

[@razor1uk610]

Episode 3..

[@philip.aocallaghan4602]

What would the approximate cost to have chains and shafts replaced on land rover evoque

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

1 million pounds

[@navjotisher]

Do we need to take the complete engine out, if we need to change balance shafts??

[@AlluringLordL]

Do you think it's worth getting the balance shaft done as a precaution, if the timing chain is being done anyway?

[@user-bz9cb8bp2y]

Thanks for the information, daughter has 2ltr ingenium engine 😢.... Drives OK now on new engine (50k dead ) ... But I wonder for how long 😢.... Very bad place to put a timing chain, new engine designers... What were you thinking 😢....

[@frasermitchell9183]

There is a BMW engine the same. I agree, though !

[@johanndork5364]

and Audi I think. Dreadful, and what are all those pipes, tubes and cables everywhere….built in unreliability and guaranteed leaks.

[@aparvez88]

Can you replace the front crankshaft seal without removing the 8mm bolts holding the housing? Might damage mine as trying to remove a seized crankshaft pulley dampener😢

[@aparvez88]

My crankshaft pulley dampener is seized on. Wd40 and heat it came off but leaving behind the aluminium part on the pulley to the crankshaft… any ideas how to get this off without damaging the crankshaft?

[@mandykaur8684]

where did you get the seal installer, its not available anywhere

[@bastogne315]

Hope those special tools come wiv every new JLR?

[@Ben-jv9rr]

Hi mate - how much for a pre-emptive timing chain change on a 2017 disco sport Td4, 73k on the clock so thinking it’s time-ing to chain-ge it? What do you think? Can the chain / runners be upgraded?

[@clivemills8391]

I have an epace 180 awd with 23k on the clock 2018. I think that there is too much crankcase presure with blow back from the dipstick and oil filler when open. Jag say it is normal, is it something you have come accross?

[@2_wheel_rob]

Do the Ingenium 3.0L petrol & diesel engines suffer from the same problems as the 2.0L?

[@jrvehicleservices]

We haven't seen any yet but from what the dealer boys say they are pretty good engines!

[@gokasssj]

where to get that engine balancer tool?

[@-DC-]

Make it as complicated and out of the cheapest components as possible 🤣 What could possibly go wrong !

[@jrvehicleservices]

Not cheap to buy though!

[@briancarton1804]

What could go wrong? Absolutely everything.

[@jonpyke1595]

Hi, great informative vids, what year did JLR sort out these issues with the Ingenium Engine or are they still unreliable ?

[@luckysmiler]

Thanks for the good video

[@petruandreascondurachi3718]

Good video , interesting 👍

[@christophergraham9726]

Is it possible to get crank timing on wrong stroke? IE: compression or exhaust stroke.

[@dandumitru4186]

Hi, can you tell me from were you buy parts ? I have a Jaguar 2.0 diesel ingenium and very soon I must to change timing chain.I am from Romania and this the price for parts is too expensive. Thanks a lot

[@rubenrodriguezvega314]

and what about Ingenium I6 D MHEV?

[@axelerod]

whats the average cost for all this work

[@AlfredTheGreatKingOfWessex]

What are the repercussions driving with a cracked DPF? Would it be good for the car? DPF shooting out soot, less LP EGR intake because the mesh filter is completely blocked. Less regenerations because of no back pressure so no oil dilution?

[@jrvehicleservices]

You'd think so but they tend to try and regen more. They also can block and then cause turbo damage

[@murrayedington]

24:00 you seem to have 2 gaskets there. Did you put sealant between them, too?

[@jrvehicleservices]

I didn't explain this well enough. We put Wellseal between all layers of the gasket

[@markraz28]

Hi. Is your scanner an otofix. I have one. Just wondered what you think of it. Really enjoying the vids. Are you the guy in the fb group

[@jrvehicleservices]

Yes and yes. We've got a few tools but the Otofix is always first out the box.

[@g.cristian4150]

Hello, can you tell me please what symptoms gives bad balance sahfts? Because i have a vibration since 80k km, since there i changed the motor mounts (mine where good when i changed it ), i changed the exhaust vibration damper ( this was alsoo good when i changed it) , the vibration is still there at 120k km now. I also changed the motor mounts actuator and the vibration is still there, there is no chain noise. I have the car since 30k km, i made the oil changes every 10k km, the engine sounds good, but that vibration when stationary and around 1300-1400 rpm makes me mad, can be possible my issue is balance shafts?

[@g.cristian4150]

The car is an xf 2019 180hp, thanks.

[@robertbowes1001]

What causes a really nasty rattle on these engines at the top end we have got 2 in work both same noise haven’t had time to properly get into them yet but wanted to know if you knew of anything

[@jrvehicleservices]

Chains usually but we've got one in with bad lifters at the moment. Unusual though.

[@jrodri14ii]

Is 100ml wellseal plenty???

[@mickymac6571]

Good content Josh, do you rate the 3.0 Jag diesels, ( I wouldn't look at the 2.2)

[@khalidacosta7133]

You need to point out which YEAR. The earlier 2.2 diesels were PSA engines and generally very reliable. The 3.0 was also PSA but more Ford and generally ok if you don't drive the car like you stole it.

[@jrvehicleservices]

The 3.0 is alright. They do have crankshaft issues but other than that generally okay. Turbos and inlet manifolds go but not super super common

[@mickymac6571]

@@jrvehicleservicesThanks Josh, seen a few advertised with knocking bottom ends at relatively low miles but have been advised it's lack of oil changes, never know out the turbo's, something to think about.

[@leebrand2172]

I wouldn't touch one of these 🙂 Question - what does that stupid "tooling" cost?

[@system11yt]

I don't like seeing that amount of plastic buried deep in an engine on a critical component.

[@emerryan578]

kzbin.infox3Hs4YCq9vs?si=uI5cMUDeLd-g6svv What would you diagnose as the cause of this sound?

[@jrvehicleservices]

Really, really hard to tell from the video. Half think it sounds like flywheel. Does it change when clutch pressed? As I say, really hard to tell so don't quote me on that!

[@emerryan578]

​@@jrvehicleservices thank you for replying It's an auto, 2.0 diesel,, sorry I should have said (I'm not very mechanically minded but trying to learn bits and pieces) You're not alone, 2 garages so far, not sure. One said balance shaft and needs a new engine. The other said something on the exhaust, but it's still there. The engine mounts were changed and this noise appeared soon after. Not sure if coincidence. I've seen two other instances of this on XE forums and one was apparently solved with timing chain (loose timing chain slapping against guides) and the other also timing chain and the owner decided on an engine rebuild. My chains, bearings etc were checked when this started and were reported as ok. Total mystery. Bringing it in again next week to a new garage. Enjoying your videos, you're very well- versed in Ingenium.

[@tam1381]

Almost as bad as the German engines. Bmw, Merc and VAG .

[@lucasedmund3600]

What a palaver.

[@chriswilson263]

Those balance shaft needle bearings look crap!

[@jrvehicleservices]

They were the biggest issue!

[@razor1uk610]

Rubber/PTFE/Soft Bearing Cages!?! Tapered Interference Fit joints without any Alignment Marks or Keyways !? ...What The F**king F**k !?!?!?! ?!?! 😱😰😢

[@robertcochrane717]

i will never buy anything with this chocolate engine in it the costs are horrendous thousands landrover and jag owners needing engines good cars being scraped as uneconomical to repair bring back the 2.2L it was a good engine in the 190hp at least you can fix it without going bankrupt

[@ZX600E7]

What awful design. Welseal, wow blast from the past

[@nigelbarratt6825]

What an absolute faff! Not content with making some of the most unreliable engines in the history of cars, they have to make them the most difficult to repair when they break down, with ridiculous regularity. Why on earth would anyone buy them??

[@rxy2580]

Jaguar engines are shite, JLR should be ashamed of themselves for producing crap

[@jrvehicleservices]

I blame too stringent emissions standards and not enough money in production