Jail Time for Canadian man who imported THOUSANDS of FAKE Toonies into Canada! Slap on the Wrist?

[@pierredubord]

Just a matter of time before you run into one of these new ones James. I agree fines and 9 months is nothing, a serious deterrent would be handing out 14 year prison terms.

[@CADRollHunter]

I'd definitely like to see some stiff sentences!

[@tomzy81]

If you haven't watched it, there's a great documentary on Crave about Frank Bourassa's 20$US counterfeit notes. The amount of preparation he put in is mind boggling. Worth the watch. Also, as a new collector, i went around a few banks and found one that gave me 20 rolls of canadian pennies for free! Oldest coin found was a 1939. Love the channel, new suscriber!

[@CADRollHunter]

Thanks so much for subscribing. I appreciate it. I'll definitely see if I can watch that video. Sounds like it would be fascinating! And congrats on the pennies!

[@Rock_Girl_Daze]

I collect. Took me forever to get a dark loonie. Seems I’ve got a few all of a sudden….will have to check the details.

[@CADRollHunter]

When it rains it pours! Thanks so much for watching!

[@Teragonsu]

So glad you did a video on this. I saw the news article last week and I was wondering how to get it to you to hear your thoughts on it. Also, just checked out your music, its funny I heard you before and I never put 2 and 2 together. Amazing work on both sides of the channels. Thank you

[@CADRollHunter]

Thanks so much! I appreciate it!

[@chevalier10]

James, just watched your music video! You are seriously talented! What an amazing performance! You are a star! Keep up the great work on both fronts!

[@CADRollHunter]

Thanks so much!! I really appreciate it!

[@davidbandler]

The machines that count, sort, & roll coinage don't discriminate as long as the coin likely has just the correct thickness and diameter - as evidence by the sheer amount of Canadian Pennies and British Pence you can find here in the USA when you get rolls of Pennies at our banks. Our banks and system down here don't seem to be able to easily remove foreign or counterfeit coinage from circulation. Every time I get rolls of old Pennies to look through, usually out of $5 worth, you get several Canadian Pennies and a few other foreign coins or strange tokens that are Penny sized. Clearly a Penny is not nearly a big of deal as $2, but similar challenges in a modern, automated banking world.

[@CADRollHunter]

I imagine that's true! The technology to remove them would likey be cost-prohibitive.

[@davidbandler]

They could probably use something similar to what soda and vending machines use, but those are usually a simple circuit checking for inductive or similar magnetic-reactive properties of precious metals (to prevent people from spending blanks and cheap fakes.) But that system still wouldn't be able to remove foreign coinage; you'd be looking at some sort of OCR system what's used like for paper currency. That system would be probably relatively cheap to make and use, but the cost to develop (and likely change all coinage) and deploy would be the barrier. Counterfeiting is one of the reasons why paper currency gained preference over coinage.

[@NumisCanadawithBruce]

Good to learn about these as I go through a lot of toonies in one of my jobs.

[@CADRollHunter]

These are pretty much circulating freely. Let me know if you ever run into these at work!

[@vernevens1598]

Why is this person jailed when the banksters commit fraud on a regular basis but they never go to jail.

[@CADRollHunter]

It seems the bigger the fraud, the lesser the penalty. I guess you have to commit it the realm of billions to really get away with it!

[@CBe-ot8vu]

Wtf is a bankster?

[@Alrik.]

Thanks for the news update James! 😃👍

[@CADRollHunter]

No problem 👍

[@_Fervid_]

Interesting information.. I've noticed as well that tellers at banks don't have the time to search the rolls or even count/weight the rolls when you deposit them.

[@CADRollHunter]

Yeah, I don't think they have the time to do it. Which is why I'm often shorted, I guess!

[@1practicaljoker]

Did he pay his fine in toonies?

[@CADRollHunter]

Lol! Now, that would be hilarious!!

[@contentofcringe6440]

Hey there Cad roll hunter sorry I don't know what you go by. BUT I've recently found one of your coin hunting videos and I've been obsessed with your videos! I swear I've watched 10+ of your videos in the last two days. However just have a few questions Im fairly new to coin hunting and got into commemorative coin hunting few months back. Ever since i watched your channel tho I've been checking all the spare change in my house for cool coins not just commeratives. Coolest things I've found are .5 silver 1968 quarter and a 1970 low mint nickel. However this has been through spare change and I've ran out of it 😂. I really want to start coin hunting however Im quite young and don't have a bank account. So I was wondering if I take 50 dollars to any bank will they give me coins and if so what coin do I get? Is 50 too little? Sorry for the long message hope you can reply. Thanks again ❤

[@CADRollHunter]

Thanks so much for reaching out! I'm glad you're enjoying my videos! Some banks will want you to have an account with them. So, you might need to do that. Depending on your age, you might need to get a parent to go in with you to set that up. $50 is lots to start with. Maybe ask for a few rolls of quarters ($30) and ten rolls of nickels ($20). Quarters are great for commemoratives, and nickels are your best bet to find something old. You might not find anything the first time - or maybe you'll luck out! But if you keep trying, you're bound to find something cool! Definitely let me know if you find anything interesting!

[@jeffbryan3224]

If there's NO DENOMINATION on it, is it even a COPY of a COIN? NO Therefore counterfeiting charges should be dropped.

[@CADRollHunter]

I'd agree, unless authorities know he's already passed some off as real money. We might need to learn more!

[@jeffbryan3224]

@@CADRollHunter I think "passing off something" is a fraud of another type. They're technically not coins. They're not even FAKE COINS and metal medallions is a more accurate description. Crook or not I hope he's got a decent lawyer.

[@micheltremblay-m2y]

why facebook is selling fake coins and getting away with it..??....can somebody explain that to me..??????

[@CADRollHunter]

I think these have been selling on some of the Chinese e-commerce sites, like Alibaba.

[@collectingonthecheap56353]

In the US, the current punishment is $250,000 fine and or up to 20 years in Prison for counterfeiting or passing counterfeit money. Of course, there are certain conditions warrant a full punishment yet protect a poor citizen from accidentally receiving and spending one.

[@CADRollHunter]

I think the average person shouldn't have much to worry about, except perhaps confiscation. But we should throw the book at these distributors!

[@davidburgoyne7489]

I have found maybe 10 camel toe toonies. The machines spit them out. Like the carwash and the laundry mat. You can report them and turn them in, but you are out 2 bucks, screw that,,

[@CADRollHunter]

Millions of them are circulating, and they're being passed off everyday by unwitting folks!

[@hykountry]

I’m not a country music fan but that’s a great duet and video. Very cool!

[@CADRollHunter]

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!

[@bhringer]

I wonder what would happen if you were to receive a fake Toonie from a bank and then inform the authorities??? Obviously, a person could be shooting themselves in the foot wrt to any good relationship you had with the bank so unless you were fed up with that particular bank...

[@CADRollHunter]

Well, I'm not going to be the one to try it, that's for sure!!

[@sdanbewa]

Back in the day, counterfeiting currency/money was punishable by the death penalty

[@CADRollHunter]

Yeah, things have changed, that's for sure!

[@Sola_Scriptura_1.618]

Trudeau keeps printing money and inflating our wealth away, so what is wrong with Canadians importing Tooneys? 😅😅😅

[@DontCryAboutIt]

Good on the judge to make him pay and keep him from teaching the other criminals in the gray bar motel.

[@alberthanson1971]

It's about time! I wish that Law Enforcement were just as diligent.

[@CADRollHunter]

Yup!

[@Legomanfred]

It's definite, that these are "times of change". 👍🤔

[@CADRollHunter]

Yup! 100%

[@hykountry]

He got off so easy. Can’t believe that’s all he got for jail time. Government is not taking this serious at all.

[@CADRollHunter]

For sure!

[@soiledbear2051]

9mths is a joke......If this had happened in the USA he'd have gotten years in jail....Treasury Dept dont mess around down south.

[@CADRollHunter]

I think you're right about that! It's far more serious south of the border!

[@tomzy81]

A little off topic in terms of this video, but is there an area where you can get your older copper coins recycled to get more value in return versus its face value? I've made tons of phone calls, nobody accepts them. I guess it's the illegal aspect to melting coins in Canada making all areas refuse them. I wonder what's the purpose of separating the copper pennies if no added value comes from there metal content from no buyers. Any thoughts?

[@NikonGlare]

You keep them as coins hooping that one day you can use it to barther for its copper value. You could also find someone willing to buy them for the copper value, but it must be a local deal as shipping is too expensive with how heavy it is. It is basically a worthless bullion waiting for its day to shine.

[@CADRollHunter]

That's exactly it. Waiting and hoping!

[@CADRollHunter]

There is currently no marketplace for cooper coins. However, if the cost increases, eventually there will be a market to buy and sell them based on their bullion value, exactly the way silver coins trade.

[@tomzy81]

Cool thanks!

[@jamiewellbourn3609]

More punishment than someone in Ontario recently got for murdering a child with their vehicle.

[@CADRollHunter]

Now that's crazy! And sad, as well.

[@jamiewellbourn3609]

@@CADRollHunter Ya! It was in London Ontario, someone confused the gas pedal with the brake and went 120km/h across a field into a bunch of Girl Guides. 2 years house arrest, no jail time. And no acknowledgement that the driver caused the harm, she insists it wasn't her fault.

[@MMan-yo3ix]

What a joke! I thought counterfeiting was spose to be serious..

[@CADRollHunter]

You'd think so!

[@nicolerichter-smith2573]

Loved the comment about the US debate. 😅😂😅

[@PigeonMeatball]

Cool video!

[@CADRollHunter]

Thanks!

[@MrCrobee]

He didn’t pay a cut to our honest

[@welchianachi7707]

OK I do not know Canada law but, if those fake coins differs so much from the original, then should we still speaking about counterfeit? For me action of this person is clearly fraudulent, but by just ordering those coins from china should not be penalised. Instead penalised should be attempt of spending it as a legal tender. Customs should pass cackage to the recipiont, then police authority should monitor recipiont behaviour, and catch him red handed when he would try to use those coins as a legal tender.

[@CADRollHunter]

It is probably important to note that these ones don't actually have a denomination on them. Just "Canada $ Canada." So, I suppose you're right there shouldn't be an issue with just owning them, if there was actually no intent or attempt to pass them off as real money.

[@mikecole819]

Maybe this person helped the authourities with additional info on future deliveries therefore lessended his jail time.

[@CADRollHunter]

Now that's something I hadn't thought about. I guess we'll see if there are any additional arrests/updates.

[@thanhdong4195]

9 months is a Joke

[@AdolphMarx]

CT Toonies must be an eastern thing as I've not seen one out west. Any stats on that?

[@CADRollHunter]

That doesn't surprise me. I imagine that there are some out there, but if they were imported into Montreal or Toronto, then they're probably circulating much more heavily there. Thanks for watching!

[@tommaciejewski7029]

Boggles my mind

[@CADRollHunter]

Yeah, me too!!

[@Southernstar-RHINO]

I’ve done more jail time for possession of weed.

[@CADRollHunter]

It's crazy - it doesn't make any sense!

[@mikecole819]

Ok...im loosing my mind! I dont see a "LIKE" button here!

[@CADRollHunter]

I hope you found it!!

[@mikecole819]

@@CADRollHunter i still dont see it

[@IsaacMa-kb2ho]

Hey shouldent you make a video about the new RCAF toonie

[@CADRollHunter]

I should - I just looked at the email now!

[@digginggopher]

I got a cameltoe toonie from circle k

[@digginggopher]

Yeah my bank teller didn't even know there were fake toonies

[@jamesmatheson9624]

We should go all digital

[@CADRollHunter]

It would certainly cut down on counterfeiting, but as a coin and currency collector, it would make me a bit sad!

[@Clayton-kf3su]

Why even mention Swiffer and Kamala on a Canadian coin channel????

[@sawyerdawson28]

Thanks for sharing, James! Very informative video. I've always wondered what kind of sentence someone would get for that. It's crossed my mind several times over the last year or so.

[@CADRollHunter]

It was just because it was the news story on the screen that I was showing. And my comment was acknowledging your point exactly, that viewers of my channel would be much more interested in the story about the counterfeit toonies.