Jake Wallis Simons vs Peter Oborne: Should Israel launch an offensive in Rafah?

[@kandilula]

Deary me, Peter is unhinged. Happy to believe the word of Hamas but believes nothing from Israel or USA. Well argued, Jake.

[@paulananke]

Do you believe Israel’s pathological lying?

[@The_Chairperson]

One side is a bunch of "pathological liars".

[@incurableromantic4006]

How come these people who claim to be "concerned about the suffering in Gaza" - never have the slightest concern for the suffering of half a dozen other wars going on right now? Why do they *only* come out of the woodwork for this particular conflict? Is there something about Israel that particularly bothers them?

[@serpentines6356]

Well, that is the interesting thing isn't it. The best thing to do would ask those (like the protestors) who are all upset. Since, according to the info. I have - more Muslims kill other Muslims, and the Islamic terror groups in Africa sure have a field day murdering Christians, and various other innocents, it would be interesting to pose some questions to those particular people. We all have a voice, (or, most of us), so I hope people keep dialoguing, and discussing things with people they don't agree with. Echo chambers are so boring.

[@fahd6757]

What’s the evidence they don’t care? There was so much support and concern for Ukraine for example. Milosovic was tried for war crimes etc. Bro I think probably YOU don’t care about genocide. Stop projecting 😂

[@paulananke]

@@fahd6757yes Ukraine, Iraq (2m demonstrating), Saudi, Afghanistan and more. Just an unthinking talking point.

[@peterwillson1355]

@@fahd6757 The thousands of people protesting every week about the genocides in Syria, Sudan, Nigeria, Yemen....The thousands who demonstrated when ISIS was cutting throats...

[@roysuttontv]

Basing an argument on what’s been seen on TikTok probably won’t age well.

[@roryhungrrr]

It's wider social media he should've clarified. Turns out there's a shed load of evidence of disgusting dehumanising treatment from the IDF going back years.

[@shahzadakram4667]

Actually it probably will. Israel lost the narrative and that's not changing any time soon.

[@Dakini31]

Jake is a class act reasonable, Peter is outrageously pro-Hamas.

[@SzTz100]

He's pro-Palestinian civilians, including women and children.

[@peterkirk123]

Jake supports Apartheid Israelis genocidal attack and surprise surprise unhinged spectator fan boys applaud him !

[@SuperKripke]

Pretending people with opposing views are terrorist sympathisers is plain for all to see when you continue to defend the IDF that has terrorized a population at scale.

[@malehumanperson7901]

The hysterical response to pretending he thinks British forces were being insulted made me cringe.

[@aroyaliota]

Disingenuous, IMO he was feeling frustrated & lashed out.

[@malehumanperson7901]

@@aroyaliota Frankly I found them both gross.

[@incurableromantic4006]

Standard tactic of the woke - deliberately misunderstand what you said, and then demand an apology.

[@Frost-uy9me]

​@malehumanperson7901 Why do you find both of them gross? Osborn is the only gross person here, trying to force the other person to accept his ridiculous, puerile, unsubstantiated, nonsensical claims.

[@terrypussypower]

@@Frost-uy9me. *Oborne

[@shainanash8518]

The advocate for Israel is correct, informative, and compassionate. Jake you are strong. Thank you.

[@markderby29]

😂

[@edwardbernays8514]

Sycophantic rhetoric about the bald man being compassionate. 30,000 dead people and thats the best you can come up with..? Joker.

[@eelswamp]

Since when do wars stop because a certain threshold of casualties has been reached?

[@LA19764]

When Israel is involved.

[@Cabronosidad]

When they're not wars but genocides.

[@eelswamp]

Well, the ICJ has ruled that military operations cannot be construed as demonstrating genocidal intent (Bosnia v. Serbia 2007), so that one's out. @@Cabronosidad

[@eelswamp]

Exactly. World opinion holds Israel to a higher standard than other countries. I wonder why?🤔@@LA19764

[@eelswamp]

@@DisinfoWatch No idea. I haven't studied the case or the issue.

[@mariareitman6559]

Jake is absolutely right.

[@Frost-uy9me]

Is there something wrong with Peter Osborn? Is he senile? His reductionist fallacy and fallacy of equivocation is not working for me. Why is he taking the whole issue personally with an emotional outburst like Franklestein and Miko? Has he got a personal vendetta to settle with Israel? Or is he trying to pacify the protected group or Western infiltrators? This is unbelievable!

[@SingSing-g3c]

Jake is absolutely right

[@culturespot75]

Oborne comes across as your average anti-Semitic leftist intellectual, one you'd typically pick out from the Anglo-European liberal middle class

[@davido9080]

Antisemitic because he isn’t an Israel war hawk?

[@tamirhalperin2404]

Palestinians are infinitely more semitic than Zionist european immigrants to Palestine. But I can see you haven't looked up the word semite in the dictionary yet. The first Israeli knesset in 1948 didn't speak any semitic languages and were forced to learn it or the UN would not be able to accept it as a representative class of people claiming to be semites.

[@Crouchy232323]

It's fortunate that your kind of argument has been overplayed to the extreme.

[@alistaircroll1036]

Nonsense

[@mikegray8776]

@@Crouchy232323 1) Culturespot didn’t make an argument, but a perfectly valid observation. 2) to dismiss any comment for being made too often rather marks you out as a potential flat-earther, as well as a casual anti-semite.

[@ZAR797]

Jake makes sense to me. The press where I live is very pro Hamas.

[@eelswamp]

Jake argues rationally. Osborne flies off the handle, appeals to emotion and relies on Tik Tok. Enough said.

[@madmartinline6]

Yes, hard to understand people who see Hamas as freedom fighters. The pro Palestinian protest marches in London seemed to start even before Israel began its offensive . Hamas after all have the same idealogy of ISIS that inspired the Islamic terrorists to kill 3000 on 9/11. Then there are the 50,000 Islamic terror attacks over past 40 years killing an est 210,000 people.Those killed on 9/11 were not just Jews but a whole range of different innocent people from all over the US & the world including many Muslims. In fact Muslims seem to be the main victims of Islam.It is so sad that they are too indoctrinated to see this. Peter is supposed to be a Middle East expert but he seems to be on a different planet than most of us & I wonder what his true agenda really is !

[@richardh7231]

Well spoken Jake.... And good on you for keeping calm.

[@johnwebley3790]

A great discussion, Peter tended to bluster, also seems taken in by the Hamas propaganda, Always worth watching Spectator TV for the open debate

[@MasterMalrubius]

Seems? He is all in. Stating that the press has been pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian is ridiculous. He mentions a handful of news outlets out of thousands.

[@flamboyentpromotions3471]

No Jake is taken in by the IDF propaganda, Peter didn't defend Hamas once

[@afifahhamilton8843]

Jake Wallis Simons handles interviews admirably. He stays cool while dealing with slurs and worse, and manages to return far more elegant blows, with aplomb. Peter Oborne's sudden reaction seemed oddly out of place, or 'performance' based, rather than in the flow of actual debate. Initially I thought he was teasing. Apparently he believes his own bluster. I assume he writes for The Guardian or The Independent (misnomers both).

[@madmartinline6]

Yes, I looked up Peter Oborne on Wiki & it does make interesting reading. One thing amongst others that I noted was that following the scandal in Rochdale about the Muslim grooming gangs he actually blamed the young teenage victims & our decadent society for what happened. I thought maybe he was just a naive humanitarian but maybe he is an Islamist himself ?

[@samuellowekey9271]

Gaza Health Authority, you mean Hamas?

[@peterkirk123]

Israeli government , you mean white supremacist fascists ?

[@SuperKripke]

War against Hamas, you mean a genocide against the Gazans?

[@shahzadakram4667]

30,000 civilians..."you mean Hamas" and Israel wonder why they have no friends.

[@samuellowekey9271]

@@shahzadakram4667They have friends who don't believe "gaza health authority" lies.

[@shahzadakram4667]

@@samuellowekey9271 and believe Bibi s lies! Well done 👏👏👏

[@neilgibbs1973]

Oborne completely circumvented the pointJake made about Hamas' long term goal of an Islamic Caliphate. Probably because he knows it's true but was to spineless to acknowledge it.

[@incurableromantic4006]

It's a bit awkward for western wokies to admit they're shilling for a bunch of religious extremists - so they just fudge the issue.

[@SuchaDoofus]

Oborne massively biased again. What a side to choose....

[@RS-uh7rz]

The IDF has conducted press tours of Hamas tunnels. In light of this independent third party confirmation, Peter's claim the IDF's videos of these tunnels are faked is hard to understand.

[@SuperKripke]

These are largely bunkers. The fact that you continue to believe in underground tunnel cities reflect on your moral outlook, not his.

[@ijejlnfzzdfar7540]

Has Peter ever heard of the bombing of Dresden ?

[@mISSsophisa]

The whole debate around Gaza often sounds as if people forgot that wars are… bloody and people tend to do awful things during them. I see significantly less outrage and hysteria at wars in Syria and Ukraine

[@jacksonfolly]

There was plenty of hysteria surrounding the war in Syria, but didn't have as many people protesting because the number of factions involved was too numerous and complicated. In addition the presence of chemical weapons in Syria is something that completely differentiates the moral impetus for the conflict. Dismissing civilian casualties as 'part and parcel of a war' is a very hollow and dismissive position to take. You might think differently if you were on the receiving end of such a policy. As for the Ukraine war, China, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Iran abstained in the U.N votes in order to preserve their good trade relations with Russia, which were very difficult to build since the Red Scare of the 1970s. These three countries alone represent a total of 4 Billion people which is nearly half of current global human population, which might explain why there seems to be less outrage for Ukraine.

[@mISSsophisa]

@@jacksonfolly I do not wish to diminish the atrocities and casualties of war yet this is the reality of war. To pretend that the army of any country can as a whole behave noble and proper during a war (like one of the speakers) is naive bordering on hallucinating. One needs to also remember that IDF does not deal with an opposing army in this case and one cannot often differentiate between a militant and a civilian on the Palestinian case. Apart from that I would totally agree with you

[@Mysticalmagicalcastle]

​@@mISSsophisaAbsolutely agree! Hamas are cowards, they won't fight man to man with IDF. They run and hide behind women and children!

[@reinerwilhelms-tricarico344]

In Gaza so far at least 10,000 children were killed in 5 months. In the Ukraine war it was at max 600 during 2 years of war. That alone pretty much explains the difference in hysteria and outrage, don't you think?

[@mISSsophisa]

@@reinerwilhelms-tricarico344 The conflict in Ukraine did not start 2 years ago. That was what they call 'full scale' invasion. One could argue that the conflict goes back ages, definitely till the nineteenth century and then twentieth century 'Holodomor' which was Soviet-made famine in Ukraine during which between 3.5-7 million Ukrainians died. British journalist discovered it at the time. There's a quite good film about him 'Mr Jones' dir. by A. Holland. Then obviously now we have proves that Russians kidnap Ukrainians children and some of them are already adopted by Russian families, even Putin's close friends. So I wouldn't go and try to get into 'Who suffer most' olympics with Ukrainians...

[@JohnHarmer]

Peter Oborne seems impervious to reason on this topic, Jake Wallis Simons seems a rational man facing an appalling enemy who have almost no common ground with the moral norms of western civilisation.

[@crista6899]

Nice racism dude

[@JohnHarmer]

@@crista6899 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHmWXptqabuFqLM

[@Salipenter1]

Peter never mentions that Hamas retains hostages from Israel.

[@hilicohen257]

Ask Peter to Host Hamas in is home if he loved them that much

[@wb1956]

Why have we not seen this level of faux outrage with other conflicts? Russia / Ukraine for example...

[@Mysticalmagicalcastle]

Because Jews aren't involved in all the other conflicts going on around the world! This conflict is all about antisemitism pure and simple.

[@hazelgolding3455]

Thank you Jake, fact and truth will always prevail above the biases of irrational & sentimental rhetoric of armchair observers of a Nation fighting for their very existence.

[@shrimpie202]

These Hamas apologists are blind

[@ag.s2012]

He (Peter) lost me at “we now know we have around 29,000 dead in Gaza”, where he makes no distinction between terrorists (circa 8-10k, whilst unverified along with civilians). Can’t listen to a chap who just wants to have another attack at one side. This guy is clearly comfortable with Hamas and its intentions. He is part of the problem of causing the antisemitism against Jews in this country alongside other people who are one-sided. Probably for screwed by a Jew some time in his life and holds onto it

[@billbadson7598]

_"He (Peter) lost me at “we now know we have around 29,000 dead in Gaza”, where he makes no distinction between terrorists"_ If the IDF doesn't discriminate between terrorists and civilians, how can he be expected to?

[@VaucluseVanguard]

Nothing to do with the UK really. I think that what UK MPs should concentrate on tackling those who want to make this a major issue in the UK, who want to disrupt our lives by grandstanding on a conflict the UK has zero influence on by holding rallies that just cause a pain to normal people. These people include a huge number of religious sectarians and we know from 30 +years in Northern Ireland what religious sectarianism leads to. Additionally, we should tackle evident racism on the streets of the UK. Since 7 October, there has been a huge uptick in antisemitism, we should be tackling that as unlike Gaza that is something our politicians can do something about. The UK needs to reconsider rules on who can stand at an election. George Galloway is standing in Rochdale, having indicated his only concern, the thing he will spend all his time on is an issue that does not impact upon the safety, wealth and welfare of the people of Rochdale, he is seeking to represent. Finally as someone who spent over 30 years in uniform as a British Army officer, Oborne's reaction to Jake Wallis Simons comment about TikTok videos was both childish and ill informed in the extreme and simply demonstrates for all his reporting and his family ties he knows nothing about soldiering, nothing about the stress of battle and very little of British Army history. I'm very proud of my service, but I have no illusions about some - a significant minority - and how they behave. To me Oborne's real objection seems to have been a comparison between a British that is largely gentile and Israeli army that is overwhelmingly Jewish and suggesting that Jews are more likely to commit war crimes. There is a term for that - antisemitism.

[@mikegray8776]

Well said. 👏🏼

[@andrealeetobias3474]

What about the hostages?

[@zephaniahblack1725]

What a good thing is this guy doesn't decide about Israel. It is not Nethanjahu's war . It is about Israel survival . Pity, but he can only destroy Britain , if you let him.

[@patricknoble3090]

It doesn't take long to find evidence of war crimes by British army in its last war, ie Afghanistan. Same with eg Australian army. War is horrible. People are flawed. Noone is perfect. Live in the real world peter. One side tries hard to be as humane as possible. The other is a barbaric as possible

[@unknown-zi3je]

@patricknoble3090 so one side is humane and the other is barbaric. Nice..comfortable narrative

[@tillitseac3774]

This 'debate' is sooo annoying. This is NOT 1945. The nature, ideas and character of the enemy today has completely changed. Israel has to respond to a totally different situation.

[@mikegray8776]

Oborne’s faux-indignation about perceived criticism of British wartime conduct is pathetic. I am at least AS patriotic as the next man - and FAR more so than Oborne - but you have to recognise that war (as distinct from terrorism) is almost always ugly and brutal, and regrettable things happen on both sides of any conflict. Oborne insists that both his grandfathers fought in both World Wars. This is clearly a lie on two fronts. Any ancestor old enough to take up active service in WW1 was almost definitionally too old to take up arms in WW2. I am sure that there is some armaments factory, or uniform supplier, or Home-based training or intelligence Regiment that employed Dorset landed gentry - but I would bet serious money that O(s)bornes antecedents never saw the business end of any weapon other than a 12-bore knocking down pheasants on a Sunday morning. My father, by contrast, saw out a miserable war in Burma and Malaysia. But to the point, Oborne has been taking Muslim “sponsorship” and proselytising for Islamic objectives for decades! It is absurd to blow the “I love Britain” trumpet, whilst ACTIVELY campaigning for MORE Muslim rights and MORE unintegrated Muslim immigration into a country and a continent which they openly detest and seek to over-run. To try to balance this by seeming to bristle about comparisons with British bombings of Dresden and Hamburg (vs Gaza), without taking into account the pressures & sensibilities of both late-30’s Europe and 21st Century Middle East is not only facile - but utterly effete and dishonest. ….. Which is of course EXACTLY what observers of Oborne’s hypocrisy have come to expect from him.

[@billbadson7598]

_"but you have to recognise that war (as distinct from terrorism) is almost always ugly and brutal, and regrettable things happen on both sides of any conflict."_ Is the distinction between war and terrorism "when we do it" vs "when they do it"?

[@sabihajenkins]

Such Islamophobic language. You are a true fully paid up member of the Conservative Racist Party! Do you hate Jews as well may I ask or is just one type of religion you espouse hatred towards because of course Muslims have done so many bad things to you?

[@aweejobby788]

They need to go right to the border then when they’re done,they could fly over here and deal with the humus supporters here aswell seeing as our own police force are so impotent!

[@nickdawson9270]

So condescending! “Pay more attention”, “Educate you a little”, from Mr Oborne. In contrast, rational narrative from Mr Simons. Perhaps “we in Britain” should not be leaving Israel to fight alone?

[@TJ_USA]

Oborne on upper-middle class hand-wringing autopilot.

[@jprw]

Poor old Peter Oborne what the hell happened to him

[@alistaircroll1036]

Nothing poor about him. He isn’t great at putting his point across but is extremely knowledgeable about the inhumanity / genocide being carried out in Gaza by Israel .

[@mikegray8776]

@@alistaircroll1036. He hides that “inner depth” totally convincingly. I have rarely seen a better portrayal of shallow and blowhard partisanship

[@ishmulin]

What a funny guy. He believes to TikTok videos, but not to the IDF’s ones.

[@errolkim1334]

What about IDF videos on TikTok

[@raquelfereres6396]

You bombed 25000 civilians in Dresden. The israeli army is one of the most moral armies in the history of warfare according to your own army. Dont lecture about the British army

[@Red_Haze]

Peter Oborne is one of the worst interviewees I’ve seen in quite a long time. He’s clearly forgotten the art of debate.

[@TJ_USA]

Oborne's reaction to the reference to the British Army suggests he is on something!

[@julianshepherd2038]

Pride in Britain

[@incurableromantic4006]

It proves he's never read even a single history book if he thinks no British soldier ever did anything ugly.

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

@@julianshepherd2038 Nope. it simply proves that he has never set foot in an army barracks or spoken to a squaddie.

[@Beckiner67]

Peter Osborne made a fool of himself with his outburst. He was “doing a Matt Hancock”. Taking Jakes comment out of context when he knew he was losing the argument.

[@paulananke]

He held back for too long probably. Listening to the regurgitation of Israeli lies is galling - hard to maintain a reasonable tone against mass murder.

[@mariareitman6559]

Peter is ridiculous.

[@rogersevers123]

Ridiculously spot on you mean

[@Mysticalmagicalcastle]

I disagree! I've heard hardly anything condemning hamas's atrocities on Israeli citizens on the 7th Oct by the media! It's all about antisemitism and standing with Palestine. 🇮🇱💙🇬🇧🇮🇱💙

[@lotyg5036]

So tell Hamas to go out

[@michaelschneider4837]

Britain bombed Dresden has he forgotten?

[@phillipblair9511]

"the most urgent, the most disgraceful, the most shameful and the most tragic problem is silence." American Jewish Congress President, Rabbi Joachim Prinz 1963, just before Dr King gave his "I Have A Dream" speech, he said this. We AMERICANS do not have dual loyalty to Fascist state on the other side of the world. Israel-Palestine could be a single democratic bi-national state for all Israelis and Palestinians, as envisioned by Martin Buber. Albert Einstein and Martin Buber were right all along, and now the whole world knows it, and it's time to start being honest with ourselves and admit this. In Martin Buber's Zionism "its desire to live in peace and brotherhood with the Arab people, and to develop the common homeland into a republic in which both peoples will have the possibility of free development." Shalom from AMERICA 🍉🕎🙏🇵🇸🕊 PS, Stop saying we AMERICANS need a safe place to escape to. That antisemitic dual loyalty trope is pure anti-Jewish bigotry! I'm told that it's a Mitzvah to remind you that... WE ARE AMERICANS, NOT FOREIGNERS! 💞🇺🇸🕎🇵🇸🕊

[@samuellowekey9271]

Hamas couldn't rearm via the tunnels without the help of Egypt.

[@sylvialandman3959]

Where does he get his numbers from?

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

Literally he gets them from Hamas

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

Peter Oborne has obviously never once set foot inside an army barracks or spent more than two minutes in the company of a squaddie. His faux outrage was perhaps the most ludicrous thing I have ever seen on KZbin.

[@mading374]

Oborne should apologize to the other guy for that pathetic and childish outburst. He controlled his hatred until that point but then lost control.

[@AHamiltonScrip-wx1rj]

Jake Wallis was balanced and thoughtful during this interview.

[@Mysticalmagicalcastle]

Jake speaks the absolute truth, he knows what's going on!

[@cathyontong5324]

I am offended that this man, Peter oborne is offended for the brits but places the idf, who left their loving wives and children to protect everyone and he compares good family men with hamas.Will oborne. Run away when hamas goes for HIS WIFE AND CHILD? DISGUSTINGLY DECEIVED.! 😮

[@ianr54]

I have total respect for Peter and Jake makes my stomach churn

[@martycrow]

Why does Oborne, not for the first time, mispronounce the Labour leader's name as 'Schtarmar'. A Freudian slip? But a consistent one. Typical of a certain type of Arabist Englishman I fear.

[@MountainRhode]

Wow. I've never come across this Oborne character before. And now having listened to him I can assure myself that his fatuous idiocy is very likely to preceed him should I encounter his juvenile platitutes again

[@johndoe-vc1we]

4:00 it will not be more terrible compared to what has occurred already. The same tired arguments of no place to go just to force a cease fire and prevent the defeat of the opponent. I'd much prefer such questions be answered by military personnel than journalists.

[@אורליכהנא]

one off them is totally unable to control his anger...and shout very unrespectfully....and it shows his wickness and his real carecter

[@johndoe-vc1we]

18:22 _don't slag off British forces_ Like the way this outburst was completely ignored by Jake who then went on to say tiktok cannot be the basis for any serious discussion 😊

[@magicalwishlist6616]

Wonder what would be the comments by Peter during WW2. Too many NAZIS killed.?

[@Kala-hl1ih]

Spot on Oborne.

[@sabihajenkins]

Well done the interviewer for putting Jake in his place for not answering any questions about the debate but just spewing his constant anti Palestinian - Christian’s and Muslims - full of lies rhetoric! 👏👍🏼

[@TheOneAndOnly61300]

Jake told the truth. The man has morals since he backs the IDF and we all can respect that.

[@ianr54]

The world stands with Palestine,fee Palestine

[@mishoren]

Oh dear, don't invite Peter Oborne again, he doesn't do Spectator's reputation any good.

[@squareinsquare2078]

The Spectator is a rag.

[@kingshousetube]

Who really is Britain and what is the shift...lastly what does it really matter?

[@stevelambou3463]

I don't think the child hanging from the roof with her legs blown off was not but horrified.

[@ianr54]

Long live Palestine 🇵🇸

[@michaelschneider4837]

The British Army shot dead an un armed Stern leader in Israel. British army soldiers stole alcohol from my grandfather home. Whats he on about

[@emd180362]

Peter Oborne being a reasonable journalist..Good for him!

[@paulananke]

“No fake videos” - what a joke. We have seen the real evidence again and again

[@robintang7304]

What so big deal about British army, god send? Don't raise your voice.

[@morenikeahmed5019]

Why are you saying differently when Batatahu himself said otherwise. Please don't compare with British army. British armies are too decent to compare with IDF😮

[@mathish1477]

Oborne is an appeaser, wast worth the debate.

[@ianr54]

Jake is a typical Jew,will not listen to the other side

[@peterchaloner2877]

Speccy is nuts.

[@paulananke]

Spectator - the opinion of the right wing

[@ma55382uk]

Jake who said hed fight for Israel against Britain 😅😅😅😅

[@suomusirkus]

Was waiting how long it would take before emotional over talking, shouting and authorative gestures of " im not listening" would take place. 19 minutes. Much better that U.S could ever. The participant engaging in this action didn't surprise though.

[@ianr54]

🇵🇸 🇵🇸

[@robertwilliams-mv9ok]

Poor delusional Jake.

[@amyhylton3761]

Great discussion 👏

[@estherlev2472]

Unsubscribed because you deleted my comments and not for the first time. Shame you take part in censorship.

[@Justlib543]

There allot debunked stories. lol

[@kaym737]

Peter Oborne

[@MarcusCorbett]

This war did not start on Oct 7th. Such irrespinsible disengenousness. There's another word for that.

[@Mysticalmagicalcastle]

Israel gave control of gaza over to Egypt in 2005! Because it was to much trouble for them. Israel also gave Gaza billions of dollars in aid in 2005, for them to build their own modern infrastructure, hospitals and schools! But instead hamas was voted in power by the Palestinian population and they spent the money on buying weapons and building tunnels in order to eliminate the Jewish people. Keep in mind also that Palestine was only created between 1948 and 1967 by Jordan and Egypt respectively! And the people of Palestine are made up of Egyptians, North Africans and jordanians.

[@morenikeahmed5019]

A few low for isreali armies again coming on social media. Liar liar

[@sabihajenkins]

Jake the ultimate interrupter of interviews. Kate where r u? Kate you have gone AWOL. Out of your depth? Why aren’t u doing what u r paid for that is to chair t interview and to stop Jake spewing inflammatory language.

[@shahzadakram4667]

Is Jake the new IDF mouthpiece? I hear loads have resigned recently, so he must be particularly thick skinned, or more likely just thick.

[@deafknighte7093]

My other comments got suppressed, but look up the Walk Free Global Slavery Index, there are 5x more slaves today than were trafficked during the entirety of the multi-hundred year trans-atlantic trade. Good day sir.

[@GreekRican]

THERE ARE FAKE VIDEOS

[@GreekRican]

Peter Has My Vote

[@john1703]

And so the argument rages, indefinitely. Both sides, Hamas and Israel, want the other side to cease to exist. Even Egypt, with the Sinai peninsula, does not want to take Gazans. This video was terrible. Both men simply defended their existing beliefs. Repeatedly calling the video evidence fake was bound to elicit a strong response.

[@MrJREllman]

Oborne gets news from TikTok.

[@MarcusCorbett]

'We've been here before'. Indeed. Bertrand Russell pointed out this barbarism untill Israel's allies can no longer stomach it, was a tactic.

[@shtuny7795]

This peter is spoky😂😂😂

[@joekay5380]

Peter ate you impartial ??!!??

[@foofkanon]

Peter is a true moral Brit, a dieing breed unfortunately.

[@michaelschneider4837]

I have to say I find this insulting. The attack onthe Jewish JC speaker was as if he isn't British. And, the comparison of the IDF to the British Army is wrong. As an IDF soldier I am insulted by this British person.