Upgrade/Rank/Explain - MH3 PRECONS [Ultimate Guide]

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Decklists! Omo - www.moxfield.com/decks/Y4a836qfYUyCs2QZVsQdwg Ulalek - www.moxfield.com/decks/6-BI2AL1xUuTZMYEYTZcFg Satya - www.moxfield.com/decks/Qd6S9ERGwEeT3-GEo7v8nw Disa - www.moxfield.com/decks/V7TsxnS9HEere9x5Ct4w_w

[@itsanother8623]

4:09 for any of the Urza’s lands, you only need 1 everything counter on it for it to activate. For example Urza’s Tower could be ur only land out, if it has an everything counter on itself, it sees itself as a Urza’s Mine and Power Plant it activates and can immediately tap for 3. Just stating that to help out other peoples gameplay

[@CarlosOleaSixtos]

Question, do lands with an everything counter on them get the abilities of named lands or just the name of the land

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Just the land type

[@fdrehug7318]

​@CarlosOleaSixtos just the land types. However there are 5 exceptions, mountain, forest, plains, swamp, and island do have intrinsic abilities to tap for the respective color so the lands w/everything counter can tap for any color of colored mana

[@toddpacker1015]

I’ve been cooking with Omo… spanking our supposedly Eldrazi overlords 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Give me the secret techs you've got, this deck is going to be the ultimate secret tech mine

[@brendans1983]

I've been washing with Omo

[@poilu146]

Just put eldrazis in Omo and be a better Eldrazi commander cause you ramp into em faster xD

[@xwaevy6237]

omo is easy to win with, you can throw any creature tribal buff or static ability in the deck & it works. Omo is not impressive at all, Wizards wins all your games for you just by printing the card.

[@chrisfletcher1990]

I have Eldrazi Incursion and the Wife got tricky terrain, she has best my Eldrazi 6 times now and just stomps. Even after we upgraded our decks Tricky terrains just keeps me in check with its fast Mana gains😢

[@joshoa90210]

Quick note on the urza lands, all you need is an everything counter on the land itself and it now taps for the full value. Other lands not needed. One land with an everything counter on it means you’ve assembled tron off the rip.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

thank you for that correction! full oversight of that on my part... this commander can be a doozy!

[@joshoa90210]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic for sure! I have been watching tons of games on here with the not upgraded precons and it comes out of nowhere with huge mana and gets problematic in a hurry. This deck is very aptly named “tricky” terrain for a reason.

[@raulmunoz7423]

Nice video! Regarding Omo I think everyone is making the same mistake, not protecting her enought. Those everything counters don’t have any effect if Omo is not on the battlefield. So the only thing your opponents need to do is killing her and all that sinergies of merfolks and stuff are over. So, more protection of anykind is need: counterspells, phase out or blink (which is the more sinergistic with Omo by the way)

[@BudgetBrewBazaar]

I definitely would've liked to see a Maskwood Nexus in the first deck as a backup for the commander

[@fdrehug7318]

Yeah I'm making a tribal tribal deck for MTG presents and omo backed up with mask wood is butter

[@Dclem742]

Everyone I've seen who upgrades the Jund deck completely forgets about Bitterblossom. It's single handedly the best upgrade for this deck. It's a Kindred enchantment, so it counts towards Goyf power, and it makes evasive flyers to make more Goyfs

[@cpeterso]

Clearly the proper creature type to name with Raise the Palisade is Uncle Istvan

[@micheal5973]

Throwing every lord I’ve got floating around into my omo. Every creature is an anthem for every other creature and just have fun with the occasional land shenanigans

[@paulszki]

Hmm.... sounds like you're playing slivers that get turned off the moment your queen dies. Also, will it be worthwhile and fun if you're basically playing a bunch of vanilla lords that buff your stuff? I'm not sure, if that's the best use of the commander...

[@chrisfletcher1990]

​@paulszki it's his deck and his money he can do what he wants. It's all about having fun and just playing with what you can or have.

[@paulszki]

@@chrisfletcher1990 I don't think I forbade him to do as he likes? Not sure what the implication is here. I think I'm still free to voice an opinion, no? My point wasn't "you can't do it." it was "Before you spend money on getting cards for your idea, consider if you like the idea more than how the deck might actually play." No need really to tell me that he can do what he wants. I ... know.

[@DoNotPassGO]

Token creation is actually the way I went with Disa. Disa's second effect splashes with WAAAAAAAAY more cards than her first effect does. Throw in some changlings, a Doubling Season, some flyers, and your creatures are gonna go both wide and tall. I'd argue to also take out Coram and create a Voltron deck solely focused around him.

[@ilikeapples1]

With Raise the Palisades in Omo I'd definitely be naming Phelddagrif every time 😂

[@brendans1983]

I am going to buy a fk ton of Final Act's. All its going to take is some epic black battles to be printed, a Battle Pre-Con with black in its color identity, no Final Act reprint and another top-down, war-themed 'tentpole' set to be released and that card will become an instant staple. Free tendies...

[@APerson001]

Hear me out: Eldrazi Conscription on Ulalek, copy Eldrazi Conscription with Ulalek's ability, now you have a 22/25 commander with annihilator 4 and trample.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

not bad, that's pretty much exactly what an eldrazi deck wants to do, right? go nuts

[@mikebutler9356]

My favourite was to give conscription to a frenemy at the table. You still own eldrazi conscription, so if they ever attack you, just annihilator the conscription on their creature. It's chaotic and banter

[@APerson001]

@@mikebutler9356 what if they don't choose to sacrifice the Eldrazi Conscription though? Seems risky unless I'm missing something.

[@Spulverin15]

You still co trol the permanent, so you can sacrifice it if you want 😀

[@angeliyoofgs]

@@APerson001 you are the one that needs to sacrifice a permanent you control. The opponent controls its creature but you control your aura on it. So the point would be: i give you this as a present but if you attack me I'm going to sacrifice the aura.

[@Helthurian]

I threw Maze's End into the deck because it's a cheap alternative win con.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Yep, I actually am gonna add that

[@supranova7594]

PSA: for the Omo upgrade a creature with an everything counter will Not count for a full party towards Multiclass Baldric. While the counter works for land type stuff like the urza types, "party" specifically requires 4 different creatures with those types even if one of them is all. This is the reason changelings didnt go hard when party mechanic was first introduced.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

For sure. We get to spread those counters pretty quickly

[@supranova7594]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic Agreed and definitely still worth a slot since she can just do the counters every turn. Still just a thing to watch out for for newer players, she Alone won't get all the abilites until there's 3 other everything creatures. 👍

[@fdrehug7318]

Yep you only can count the creature as 1 for the party

[@wolfknap9494]

the only cut I disagree with is eldrazi conscription because with your commander you can copy it for two extra mana and chose the same creature or a new one. if you put it on your commander you have a good chance with winning with commander damage.

[@F4xP4s]

Putting everything counter on Urza’s Tower would automatically allow it to tap for 3?

[@supranova7594]

Yes cuz it checks for any lands with the other 2 types and an everything counter includes tower, mine, and plant type for that land even the urza piece itself.

[@EastToWestTCG]

Even though I'm not overly invested in Commander anymore, I ALWAYS tune in to Jake and Joel! -Phang ✌️

[@zach12360]

I love oblivion sower. Hitting 1-2 lands off of this is great. Every other cut seems reasonable though! Inclusions also seem pretty solid! I would definitely hold off on picking anything up for another month or two and hopefully prices start to die down.

[@fdrehug7318]

It gets better with exile effects because Oblivion sower doesn't specify exiled from the ability, all exiled lands that player has you get

[@LookADistarction]

Have you posted your thoughts on buying the ripple foils that people are selling off of the Collectors Versions? Just more Bling Era noise or something worth picking up as they trend towards the bottom? I was looking at a Ripple Junji The Night Sky and I don’t know if it’s worth it.

[@TrashcanActual]

I'd keep Ulamog's Crusher for a while just because of the interaction with Ulalek and God forbid Echoes of Eternity. Being able to slap down 12 8/8 with annihilator 2 each AND they need to attack next turn it puts super heavy pressure on your opponents in one turn without removal.

[@admiralcasperr]

You've sold the Inversion Behemoth short. It can kill any 0/Xs, push more damage trample damage with low power, high toughness creatures, or prevent favorable blocks by switching a high power to the back. Wall of Omens preventing early damage? No problem. Want to push through a Kynaios? No problem. The only irritating thing is when opponents have N/N creatures, but if your group has a lot of defensive play, you can invert that with the Behemoth.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

This is as good a defense of behemoth as I've seen

[@AndJDrake]

Raise the palisade, type has gotta be "clown" right?

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Hell yes 😂

[@theonewingedangel8680]

“Gamer” ?

[@fdrehug7318]

"EYE"

[@AtlasAdvice254]

I think Omo is better suited in a legends themed deck like Jodah or Sisay, being a creature that comes in and turns a land into a command tower at least once per turn is crazy

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Doesn't work like that, gives it land types not abilities.

[@fdrehug7318]

​@@JakeandJoelareMagicbut a command tower would tap for one of wburg so it's close to omo making lands Island swamp forest mountain island.

[@xMareZx]

The throwing deckboxes in every creator‘s MTG videos is getting out of hand 😂

[@toms1782]

Coram, the undertaker is the secret commander of these 😛

[@rsm014]

Silverquill lecturer would go great in the bant Dr who deck

[@kozad86]

WotC making a Lhurgoyf deck implies they have a product in the pipeline with a lot of Lhorgoyf creatures, imho. It just feels like WotC is winking at us, like they did with the first Eldrazi commander deck.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

100% - we've been seeing the winks more clearly over the past few years

[@fdrehug7318]

It's possible, I think however they wanted to make these modern horizons deck be based on solid modern decks of the past, elderazi winter, simic value, energy, Lagouifs are famous in the format

[@jenzo42]

What timeline?

[@BlackScreen9]

Thats what I'm saying

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

didnt save for some reason, check now?

[@jenzo42]

​@@JakeandJoelareMagic all gucci!

[@dannyriat9859]

Some good uncommons in those decks aye?

[@jeanpierrepolnareff2356]

My creatures are Uncle istvan

[@sheppardd03]

Creature type beebles 😂😂😂

[@magusofthebargain]

I don't like any of the 4 decks. Thank you for making this video so I can look at and prepare for playing against these decks without picking up any of these overpriced monstrosities myself.

[@fdrehug7318]

Name "EYE" there is like 7 creatures with the subtype "EYE"

[@timothytiu1333]

Its not the same when you make a video without your husband, jake.

[@dizzyloops]

First (prob not but gotta try!)

[@theonedraven8007]

remember if you go kiss your homies, make sure to say No Omo