The “wtf did you just say” after the comparison to coco got me so good lol
@salchi-papa7 ай бұрын
Hey guys, btw, with Nadu + Shuko/Umbral mantle... you don't need to unattach a creature and reattach another. You can target the same creature with the equip to trigger Nadu.
@legoking10017 ай бұрын
I've played mtg for over 10 years and I never thought of this
@salchi-papa7 ай бұрын
@@legoking1001 that’s how I felt when I learned that you can target a creature with equipment even after it’s already equipped. The target still happens, but nothing else (equipment wise) does
@Mr12345pokemon7 ай бұрын
Ewwwwwwww
@salchi-papa7 ай бұрын
@@Mr12345pokemon LMFAOOOO this is so valid
@wedgearyxsaber7 ай бұрын
I heard someone say this and thought they were just making stuff up, but this really seals the deal. That's both bizarre and outrageous. Thanks for the clarification.
@bend59637 ай бұрын
Totally missed the fact that Evolution Witness with LED makes infinite mana of any color with Kenrith activations.
@jgmclellan7 ай бұрын
But that's only in Tayam where you can take the counters off again right? You Can't evolve it if it already has counters
@RobShannanigans7 ай бұрын
@@jgmclellanthe ability triggers any time a +1/+1 counter is placed on it. Evolve is just one way to do so.
@SardonicVida7 ай бұрын
@@jgmclellankenrith has an activated ability to put a +1/+1 counter on a target creature for 1G, so it creates infinite green mana with LED and evolution witness
@odyseeus7 ай бұрын
@@SardonicVidainfinite any color mana with it after you have infinite green
@jgmclellan7 ай бұрын
@@SardonicVida gotta, missed the part where OP said you also need Kenny, ty
@TH3M4X487 ай бұрын
Omg I was screaming in my car that with “Evolution Witness” you guys didn’t mention Kenrith and the with THE NEXT CARD you mention him! LOL
@skyguytomas96157 ай бұрын
Seems great with LED, anything else?
@obcuretwin57087 ай бұрын
@skyguytomas9615 it's pay 2 mana bring any permanent back to hand?
@MrWrekka7 ай бұрын
Tyler's giggle after "just get rid of Kinnen" when discussing Disciple of Freyalise should be a clip you guys keep forever. That giggle had like 6 different emotions in it and I'm here for it.
@InazumaKICKyt7 ай бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh has had a ton of references to other Konami IPs throughout the years. Tactical Espionage Expert is just Solid Snake, Vampire Hunter is a Castlevania character, and Aitsu, Koitsu, Doitsu, and Soitsu were in Parodius, Konami's Gradius "meme game." So Cameron is totally on the money when he says YGO has had (a form of) universes beyond.
@purplebobcat10207 ай бұрын
You don't have to atk with SIX ever btw. Just discard land and retrace. You can also use SIX with Necrobloom. Dredge 2 for a land to hand. Rinse and repeat. Honestly you can get your whole library pretty easy. Endurance would be an amazing protection piece as well.
@Tryc37 ай бұрын
Tyler is a great addition. His monotone voice is fantastic in contrast 😂 Lots of range and flavor Edit: Nadu is broken cuz wotc misplaced the last quotation marks. Last quotes should be before (This effect only happens twice) not after lol
@Trogdorbad7 ай бұрын
I don't think that's the case, because then the rules text wouldn't make any sense - what ability only triggers twice each turn? Nadu doesn't have a triggered ability to only trigger twice. It would break how magic cards are formatted. If anything, the mistake is that either he shouldn't have granted the ability to all your other creatures, or if he did, it should have only triggered off stuff your opponents control.
@worms357 ай бұрын
One card I think you've missed is Unstable Amulet specifically for Ob Nix. It makes every spell you cast from under Ob trigger a new card being exiled.
@signisakanades13297 ай бұрын
Notably: Invert Polarity can counter counterspells. You have them change their target to themselves or to the invert polarity. Not sure which one specifically.
@Koshersquid7 ай бұрын
Evolution Witness + LED in Kenrith is infinite mana all colors, no?
@hobez647 ай бұрын
Yeah that's a fair point
@johndoetv4887 ай бұрын
Evolution witness + LED by itself is already infinite green right?
@zacheryhallowell80137 ай бұрын
@johndoetv488 no because adapt says if there are no counters on it you can activate it. Kenrith is needed to give it the counters
@hobez647 ай бұрын
@@johndoetv488You'd need Kenrith to put the counter on Evolution Witness so that the Lion's Eye Diamond returns to your hand
@johndoetv4887 ай бұрын
Ty kind sirs
@ManchyGaming7 ай бұрын
Funny thing about invert polarity, you still get a 50% shot at taking control of an uncounterable spell when you are desperate.
@taylorharrison52497 ай бұрын
Never been this early before. Have a good weekend boys!
@MrWader767 ай бұрын
You already know we here early to support the boys! Nice to see yall on elder dragon highlander! I hope that brings more eyes on my favorite CEDH channel! You guys deserve all the success ✌️
@dub2537 ай бұрын
"What the fuck did you just say?!" @ 19:40 SENT me holy shit 😂😂😂
@thesamuraiman7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@nicholaschau91277 ай бұрын
Invert polarity gaining control of a counterspell can make the counterspell target invert similar to misdirection
@colinfanning98547 ай бұрын
Truly missed this
@HootNBerries7 ай бұрын
“Bill the pony rider” got me good 😂
@decktechsfordecks7 ай бұрын
Something cool about bridgeworks battle is it turns on Druid lines in tayam!
@DMGtubez7 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of necrobloom with any cost reducing effects for cycling on the cycling lands just going through your whole deck dredging it heard that's pretty good
@Ningitsuu7 ай бұрын
For Eladamri, I feel like he does have a home in one cEDH deck, and that's Selvala. He has a neat loop you can do with sabertooth and great oak guardian.
@skullkrusher-dx4kg7 ай бұрын
Selvala is just looking to shove as many loops as possible too so having another one doesnt hurt.
@joshuacheek73787 ай бұрын
Good to meet y’all in Commandfest ATL! Fanatic of Rhonas will be playtested in my Sakashima/ Kodama list.
@ryanquinn12577 ай бұрын
I don’t even play cEDH yet I still find y’all fun to tune into. Spending like five minutes on primal prayers to give it a 0 after calling it collected company for your hand 😂
@AndrewS-vu4ji7 ай бұрын
One thing with shifting woodland, you can tap itself for its own cost, so if you're getting a shuko or something else that doesn't need to tap, it actually costs 1 green mana, rather than the 2 if you would need it untapped. Urza's workshop is the only card that cares about the urzas land type specifically.
@GreenNightlight7 ай бұрын
Important thing about shifting woodland is you dont need to tap it to activate the ability so you can use itself to pay the cost
@Trogdorbad7 ай бұрын
I said it on the short but god Six is fun. I've never been a selfmill or monocolor guy, but I got a copy for the Disa precon and my god did it make me want to build a deck for him on his own. What a beast. I'm pretty sure it was said on the short and maybe already said here but Six doesn't have to attack to get the retrace - attacking just mills, but Six always grants the retrace to your permanents in graveyard as long as it's your turn.
@garrettleblanc79267 ай бұрын
Cam and I have the same shirt!!! The conversations in these have been great!
@devincriss59857 ай бұрын
I love the accidental quoting of always sunny at 1hr20mins
@DHDaegor7 ай бұрын
1:02:11 - to answer this, no, GW Selvala doesn't really want this card. We don't run many Plains (or lands in general), so this is far more likely to be a tapped land, and we generate green mana when comboing so the double white activation cost is killer.
@loganfendt41977 ай бұрын
Been loving the hell out of Imskir. I’m slowly building him up but with his playstyle with artifacts there is so much wiggle room when it comes to budget options. I think the deck either is just using him for draw with occasional flinging OR you go for big creatures that allow you to get multiple triggers on death and the draw is an afterthought. I played my most recent game where he drew me 20+ cards and he was around 24 mana lol
@pokedadsam90417 ай бұрын
8:04 disciple sacs your etali too and lets you refire with the mana you find or atraxa.
@KellyUnekis7 ай бұрын
Urza's Workshop is the card that cares about "Urza's" land types. Was a set pack only commander card in Brother's War I think.
@douglasyellow7 ай бұрын
arena of glory can also give haste to two creatures in the same turn if you cast each with one pip
@mikelrocks137 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to hear the evaluation of cards from new sets with regards to your favorite casual decks I think. Maybe once every couple of sets?
@bricknolty54787 ай бұрын
24:20 Life From the Loam offers some really interesting loops with Six
@Jaketg937 ай бұрын
On invert polarity, it does counter counterspells on a win-flip same way that swat words (assuming the counterspell can target instants)
@heirkaiba7 ай бұрын
The other Nadu win is legit Temur Sabertooth + anything that makes mana. You can also run Minamo, it’s a fun deck but it’s not overpowering. I just like having options in Simic.
@BVBridesifyer7 ай бұрын
Temur sabertooth would need to bounce something that can untap another creature that makes mana. For example, sabertooth bouncing Hyrax Tower Scout so you can recast it and untap Selvala would work.
@koreyg85527 ай бұрын
It’s absolutely overpowering, what are you talking about, have you actually played against this deck
@CHoustonify7 ай бұрын
WHERE!! does Tyler's shirt come from, I really like it
@wedgearyxsaber7 ай бұрын
The creator also plays a ton of cEDH
@CHoustonify7 ай бұрын
@@wedgearyxsaber oh neat! who is that?
@wedgearyxsaber7 ай бұрын
Gold sabretooth, he is on Etsy. My original reply did not send
@charginggemo7 ай бұрын
Dude I love haywire mite, not sure why but probably one of my favorite magic cards, so clean
@wardious25627 ай бұрын
Bridgeworks Battle can potentially be very big for Tayam, as it provides a buff to your Devoted Druid without needing threshold while also acting as removal or a simply land drop.
@bricknolty54787 ай бұрын
28:47 omg does my favorite jank card, Spine of Ish Sah, finally have a home 😮
@bkyang6247 ай бұрын
Arena of Glory and Shifting Woodland are by two favorite lands in this set. I threw Arena of Glory in Kaalia and Voja, and Shifting Woodland into my Eldrazi deck.
@danielgamboa61307 ай бұрын
11:20 monogreen elfstorm with scryb ranger and quirion ranger and baby you got yourself a stew
@ulyssessanchez23287 ай бұрын
Plage getting a 2.Anything is very generous, I pulled it out of a collector pack and as pretty as the card but a Boros Giant that's just a Lightning Helix, can be fun but I don't know if it'll be doing anything
@EpicWin13377 ай бұрын
The Necrobloom goes infinite dredge with fluctuator + a cycle land > Bridge from Below > Dread Return > Auramancer > Cthonian Nightmare > Priest of Gix > Shambling Ghast > Infinite energy > Kozilek's predator > Infinite black mana > Blood Artist > infinite drain. It also fits Proteon Hulk lines with Warren Soul Trader + Gravecrawler + Blood Artist. I think its a strictly Casual Combo playground commander but, it does have some spicy lines to win.
@andresenriquezgomez69107 ай бұрын
Evolution witness is a good card in Kenrith decks. Makes infinite mana with Kenny and LED, you can neoform dockside into it and return dockside to your hand immediately and it's really good with cauldron. Six is definitely one of the best cards in the set. In decks with ad nauseam and breach it can act as a breach when paired with grinding station and a maná rock until you mill your breach and cast it. In Korvold It draws your deck with Dakmor salvage and any 0 mana artifact that sacrifices itself (netting also mana if it produces mana). In decks like Kenrith that use the graveyard, have permanent based wincons and are very mana hungry a t provides so much value... Overall great card in the format.
@NinjaJerky7 ай бұрын
I just realized that Shifting Woodland can help pay for itself since delirium does not require a tap. Just float the Green from SW then use it to pay. not bad.
@bricknolty54787 ай бұрын
1:06:00 I'm not familiar enough with cEDH to know if self mill graveyard decks are competitive, but this goes nuts in those decks. It's just free selection.
@gabrielgriffith74777 ай бұрын
51:45 I actually play liberator, urza's battlethopter in cedh as my main deck. I have a couple of mtgtop8 listings with it, but nothing crazy. Mh3 gave my deck so many good cards. I would really love to see liberator get some more recognition in cedh, but it's not likely.
@pokedadsam90417 ай бұрын
3:34 this probably sees play in Sissay too. Remove a stax piece tutor for something bigger; you paid 1 mana essentially.
@RsDrPowers7 ай бұрын
Evolution Witness with Evolution Sage, returning sac lands to trigger proliferate several times a turn (granted you can play multiple lands per turn)
@obcuretwin57087 ай бұрын
Evolution witness in kenrith has felt insane. Kenrith staple imo. Also creates a new bomberman loop while not being a dead card outside the combo
@connorsheffield65767 ай бұрын
Everyone has great commentary but god Cam is just the best.
@de_lectionnes_illustribus91557 ай бұрын
Questions that popped up while watching the video : - Will Phlage be played in Dihada ? - Can you consistently enough draw your deck with Nadu to add thoracle and even labman ? - Will Dylan play vexing bauble in blood pod ? - Will Dylan play Arena of Glory in Codie ?
@Technogeek1017 ай бұрын
For discussion about Acerak and the primal prayers combo there is the option of decoration module to get energy as well. Golgari energy doesn't sound great but sure.
@eyeh07 ай бұрын
34:49 Bill, the Pony Rider
@sarusvalley7 ай бұрын
one thing about Shifting Woodland, it can tap for its own ability I believe. which is both neat and weird :p
@arob_3k7 ай бұрын
I put Eladamri in Shalai & Hellar. Plays dorks, combo and stacks creature from the top of my library. Great card advantage.
@Coulrophobia297 ай бұрын
Running Six with intuition in my Tasigur deck, looking for six/animate dead/hullbreaker. Also after playing with it since it was released, Six is actually bonkers good to the point where I tutor for it.
@hellproof23797 ай бұрын
I’m a fan of vexing bauble. Its like a mini d grid
@brainbenderNo17 ай бұрын
I'm fucking dying at the "just get rid of Kinnan" 😂 and Tyler's laugh❤
@AtlasAdvice2547 ай бұрын
It definitely feels like the 2-3 color decks get a big boost from this set and because of that, the 4-5 color decks get pulled down some which I think overall rounds out the format more as we've been in a higher color count meta for what feels like a long time now
@jonathonskogman83377 ай бұрын
I have a fringe chatterfang Cedh deck and eladamri is super useful in there as I have lots of token creatures and being able to cheat in creatures that are wincons is super helpful.
@VitalSyntax7 ай бұрын
Its actually just "thonian"... and "shuko" not "shunko" lol
@Illiteratesoup7 ай бұрын
Casual Rec: Fanatic of Rhonas could be really fun in Ghired, Conclave Exile. Ghired ETB with a 4/4 Rhino token which turns (Ferocious) on . then if it dies, Eternalize it to make a token copy and populate it to make more token copies. also, Evolution Witness will find a place in my Kenny Aristocrats deck. so many loops with Dockside.
@definitelynotmany49727 ай бұрын
20:59 Greenbelt Rampager with Primal Prayers gives you infinite ETBs.
@Dracomandriuthus7 ай бұрын
The disciple of freyalise is a banger with Yargle and Multani
@ShadowWasntHere84337 ай бұрын
Invert Polarity can change the target of the Counterspell to itself the same as Deflecting Swat.
@adams3337 ай бұрын
I play Fanatic of Rhonas in Derevi for the Emiel combo.
@darthagan7 ай бұрын
winter moon is a nice piece of hate for mono colored decks against greedy mana bases
@AndrewJCulver7 ай бұрын
Invert Polarity on a counterspell can make the counterspell target the Invert Polarity if you win the flip.
@B-rad24247 ай бұрын
Deciple of Freyalise is a must in Etali!!!!
@juice177767 ай бұрын
And Fanatic of Rhonas seems good in it too.
@Revival_JamZ7 ай бұрын
With Kenrith and Evo Witness and enough mana you can start looping perma silence until you find your wincon
@Dracomandriuthus7 ай бұрын
Flute can also be "prevent target player from playing their commander"
@kodyroby99397 ай бұрын
In a more casual state, the lotr palantir combos with necrobloom. If you have a land in your yard you can dredge instead of the draw trigger and force 2+however many counters on palantir worth of cards from the top and burn for total cmc
@chrisbedrin36187 ай бұрын
That doesn't actually work. The Palantir cares about what they chose, not whether or not you end up drawing the card. (See CR 118.12). From what I understand it's bugged on Arena, but it doesn't actually do that.
@aymanmz7 ай бұрын
Are you folks doing a set review for the new commander cards? Feel like some of these lands from tricky terrain could do work
@cupmallows7 ай бұрын
If you think real hard, invert polarity can steal creature spells if you win the flip. Then you get their commander or dockside or whatever creature at a 50/50
@supersam66567 ай бұрын
I’m running kozileks unsealing in 7 mana atraxa and it’s wonderful to get the draw three off of cast
@Ian_Dierks7 ай бұрын
No Basking Broodscale? It combos with several cards. Maybe not completely cEDH viable but it's close enough to mention I think.
@Houdini11387 ай бұрын
Emrakul’s Messenger goes well with Marneus
@alexanderwyman17927 ай бұрын
I'm a Chulane player. Primal Prayers combos with greenbelt rampager to fulfill a similar line to shrieking drake and alluren. I havent playtested it yet tho.
@thiagomoreira48517 ай бұрын
Winter moon could be used in Magda.... Slow multicolored decks, and can be tapped for artifact effects
@oscarperezcame7 ай бұрын
I have a K'rrik deck and a Selvala deck... imo the bolt mdfc lands and the null blast are good... Null blast is helpful cuz there are not many counterspells in those colors... I also run Warpin Wail cuz of that reason
@Lumautis7 ай бұрын
Warning to people that are building Necrobloom. This does synergize really well with The Gitrog Monster. But this is not a Gitrog deck. From my experience this is a Fluctuator deck. Its also niche. Horizon lands with Kodama is also pretty good. Also shifting Woodland can stack a bunch of activations on with infinite mana. The transformation isnt a part of the cost. Do with that what you will. Kinda like Mirage Mirror
@tylermulkey86477 ай бұрын
So in temur and glint eye color combos intuition can get you six shifting woodlands and underworld breach and as long as you have a land in hand you get a breach out
@isileeamaryllis7 ай бұрын
Does Play to Win do cube? They keep mentioning a cedh cube but I can't find the videos anywhere 😢
@basschatfield7 ай бұрын
Is Disciple of Freyalise good in Etali? Either getting it from an ETB trigger of Etali,or sacrificing Etali / token copy and drawing the 7 cards? Or 11 if flipped?
@AndrewRingle7 ай бұрын
This set is so beautiful. There are very few staples, but there are SO MANY good cards if you build around them. Unfortunately, edh is singleton, so you need like 40 synergy cards to build around a 99 card instead of 6/7 for your 60 card decks
@dancingmathusalem54517 ай бұрын
30:50 why can't you do the deflecting swat trick and redirect the counterspell to Lose Polarity? Is the process somehow different?
@Blue-collarMTG7 ай бұрын
Love this set!
@MrPhantomPC7 ай бұрын
Invert Polarity is pretty sweet, i had it replace actual counterspell, which honestly I should probably cut already but it just feels wrong to cut counterspell in decks where I inherently value counter spells.
@JacobBos19887 ай бұрын
Fanatic of Rhonas is amazing with Tasigur. Tasigur turns the Fanatic on and the Fanatici pays for Tasigur by himself. Also, did you guys not discuss the UB MDFC? The land etb tappen, but it's a tutor on the front for bowmaster/fierce Guardianship/ad narset etc. It's also blue, so you can pitch it to FoW.
@koreyg85527 ай бұрын
The land coming in tapped makes it suck. They should have said pay 6 life
@stasjovb7 ай бұрын
Invert polarity works similar to swat where you can point the counterspell at invert
@maxbow-arrow59317 ай бұрын
30:30 Can't you redirect the counterspell to Invert Polarity itself? Like with Deflecting Swat?
@StudioNBS7 ай бұрын
18:05 “It would get a one but it has the same staff that Jafar from Disney’s Aladdin has” How did no one acknowledge this? 😂
@thesamuraiman7 ай бұрын
🤣
@Eifuh7 ай бұрын
Love the video as always!! You’ve probably already been told this but Magda is actually pronounced more like “mog-da” instead of “maeg-da”. Just letting you know cause I have a friend named Magda but it doesn’t really matter 👍👍
@joshholmes13727 ай бұрын
Boros has two tutors for dockside. Recruiter of the guard and imperial recruiter.
@jackpabich7637 ай бұрын
I wasn't sure if Basking Broodscale would get a mention because of it's comos but 3 card combos aren't what cEDH tends to look for
@TisAtirius7 ай бұрын
Primal Prayers and guide of souls + cloudstone and a 0 drop creature is infinite energy. Would be interesting with Rograk but idk what the strategy would be to actually win lol
@Naren257 ай бұрын
I can confirm that it works in Tayam, but isn't needed
@johndoetv4887 ай бұрын
Just ordered some play to win game mats all the way from malaysia. Sup dylan cam and tyler😊😊