Are Gojo and Geto Gay?

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Jallomoth

Jallomoth

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@Your7T7
@Your7T7 7 ай бұрын
Everything surrounding their relationship is just so intensely romantic (whether or not the love itself is romantic, this is undeniably true) that I can't help but interpret them as gay, or rather in love with each other regardless of what sexuality they align with. There is still plenty of evidence that you didn't go over, like the English translation of what Gojo says to Geto being almost directly confirmed as "I love you" by Gojo's English VA, and the visuals of Ao no Sumika, but even with just this video's worth of evidence it seems all but confirmed. It's incredibly frustrating to see people attempting to shoot down this idea off of plausible deniability; "it isn't confirmed therefore it isn't true", when this is not at all how human emotions work in real life. Your loved one could be suffering and not tell you, that doesn't mean that suffering doesn't exist. People treat emotional nuance in media the same way they treat POWER SCALING and that, to me at least, shows a COMPLETE lack of reading comprehension beyond the absolute surface level. Nuance is extremely important when tackling these kinds of topics as you point out in the video itself. I am not against anyone viewing these two as just the bestest, most closest, most huggiest of roommates, but I personally feel that it is just too overwhelmingly obvious what Gege WANTS you to think they are to each other to see it any other way myself. And as someone who idolizes romantic love as one of the most beautiful things a human being can experience, it just makes the story of Geto and Gojo all the more tragic and, for lack of a better word, beautiful in my eyes. I can never see Ao no Sumika as anything other than a love song, and that makes it pair especially nicely with SPECIALZ, which is from the perspective of Sukuna, the character most vehemently and vocally against love in the entire series. It further eccentuates the still ongoing conflict of ideals between Gojo and Sukuna on top of the literal battle they were having at the time of Season 2's release. "The one who will teach you about love is..!"
@Geilolp.
@Geilolp. 7 ай бұрын
yap.
@Your7T7
@Your7T7 6 ай бұрын
@@Geilolp. You said one word and still somehow made less than one word’s worth of contribution
@mira.r
@mira.r 6 ай бұрын
Wait wait wait gojo straight up said (or idk sth close to it) "I love you" to geto?? When was this? 😭
@Your7T7
@Your7T7 6 ай бұрын
@@mira.r Gojo's english VA was asked at a convention what Gojo's last words to Geto were. He responded "I've been sworn to secrecy on that" and "It was localized I'm allowed to say that, and I am allowed to say that it was three words". Since there are little to no combinations of 3 words that would make sense in the context OTHER THAN "I love you", there isn't much speculation to be had here. Some have said that maybe it was "my best friend" or "you're my friend", but neither of those make much sense as last words before murdering someone (with the former outright making no grammatical sense?), nor do either of those tackle the fact that what he said was LOCALIZED instead of just TRANSLATED (aka, it was changed to be more clearly understood by western english-speaking audiences). Given the many different words for and expressions of love in Japan, it makes sense that it would have to be localized to a simple "I love you" if that was the intended meaning of his original Japanese statement.
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy 6 ай бұрын
@@mira.r it's not confirmed as far as I know, his English VA said Gojo told him 3 words before killing him, which could be anything on it's own but with all this combined, I'm leaning towards an I love You, even though to me personally Geto's reaction to that didn't sit very right, but it was so long ago we really don't know
@BlackRicard0
@BlackRicard0 7 ай бұрын
Fellas is it gay to being unable to connect with anyone so deeply except with you bro, your one and only, the one that teaches you how love is the most twisted curse of all of them? No? Thanks god
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 6 ай бұрын
Very gay dude.
@Iameepytired
@Iameepytired 6 ай бұрын
@@Oreosseasy, wear socks /j Aw man, now my comment doesn’t make any sense since the original comment is gone 😔
@poisonedlavender
@poisonedlavender 6 ай бұрын
​@@Oreoss just say no homo at the end! Works really well
@Dogeycorgi
@Dogeycorgi 6 ай бұрын
@@IameepytiredLOL nope it doesnt
@Pindie12321
@Pindie12321 5 ай бұрын
It’s not gay if they say no homo, however the phrase “no homo” was in fact, not stated a single time in the entire series. Therefore THEYRE HELLA GAY!!!!!!
@diogitalk
@diogitalk 7 ай бұрын
Bro even posted this during Pride Month and Men's Mental Health month. That's genius scheduling.
@moonlightmiracles1844
@moonlightmiracles1844 6 ай бұрын
You're the first person I've seen say it's both at the same time, I appreciate that
@D.A.F.O
@D.A.F.O 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the latter, sucks that it isn't as mainstream as pride month :(
@Däl-user
@Däl-user 6 ай бұрын
​@@D.A.F.Oactually it's because most of people just thinks they are the same thing because the whole point of the pride month is the emotional support and the mental health support to people who suffers from discrimination.
@Fillyshejay
@Fillyshejay 5 ай бұрын
@@moonlightmiracles1844 so fr, its disappointing that some people cant just see it as both, cause both are very important! 😭
@Benreyholic
@Benreyholic 5 ай бұрын
​@@FillyshejayExactly this! You can care for both. Afterall alot of mens problems are rooted in homophobia (and misogyny,, eg the patriarchy makes that Men cant be emotional cause thats feminine and feminity makes you gay) but some people refuses to acknowledge that for some reason. Its good to see other people appreciating both
@loja7576
@loja7576 7 ай бұрын
"this is true love" played when geto died Gojo knows him by scent "My best friend, my one and only" Geto speaks softer around gojo Geto wears a "gojo-kesa" First name basis w/o honorifics Getos body choked kenny cuz "protecting gojo came naturally" (geges words) Died same date
@sofanna-gedmana
@sofanna-gedmana 6 ай бұрын
happy gay month gay flag
@mochiiharakami
@mochiiharakami 6 ай бұрын
Their names match start letter and last letter, Geto and Gojo G and O if you think about it Same for their last names: Suguru, Satoru S and U
@CamiWuzHere
@CamiWuzHere 6 ай бұрын
@@mochiiharakamialso their names have the same number of letters
@mochiiharakami
@mochiiharakami 6 ай бұрын
@@CamiWuzHere ye
@demdem7946
@demdem7946 6 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@mochiiharakami this also matches with the only confirmed romantic people within jjk: miwa kasumi / muta kokichi, hakari kinji / hoshi kirara
@dimaf5594
@dimaf5594 6 ай бұрын
these two were the original situationship
@SharkSalesman90
@SharkSalesman90 6 ай бұрын
Trueeee
@MaybeMerillium
@MaybeMerillium 5 ай бұрын
they were the blueprint
@Pindie12321
@Pindie12321 5 ай бұрын
The foundation of the lack of communication yaoi troupe
@Suited_Nat
@Suited_Nat 4 ай бұрын
Correction; the original gay situationship 😂
@bonniedark0
@bonniedark0 Ай бұрын
NOOOOOO Let two Bros be platonically friends quit making me shitty KZbin videos
@stitch8296
@stitch8296 7 ай бұрын
Saw the title and just thought “yeah probably”
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 6 ай бұрын
Mothers basement definitely does.
@s_kolorowa
@s_kolorowa 6 ай бұрын
Same
@justalittlearty
@justalittlearty 6 ай бұрын
lol my reaction was "yes next question"
@kaleidoscopecatsz
@kaleidoscopecatsz 6 ай бұрын
real
@SamWiseR0bert
@SamWiseR0bert 5 ай бұрын
IMO, they just good homies and aint (too) gay. more Like a joking kinda way with my and my close friends.
@brodenspates1826
@brodenspates1826 7 ай бұрын
i think the whole point behind the "me and bro" gojo and geto memes is that me n bro are a lil gay
@yuki-ju6sq
@yuki-ju6sq 7 ай бұрын
LMFAOO
@slump6561
@slump6561 7 ай бұрын
pause
@personanonmaga5178
@personanonmaga5178 7 ай бұрын
no
@chocorobot4life
@chocorobot4life 6 ай бұрын
Omg 😭
@PENUMBRA-YT
@PENUMBRA-YT 6 ай бұрын
Geto was originally supposed to be female so yeah
@doodleplayer4014
@doodleplayer4014 6 ай бұрын
I read them as "besties mutually pining for each other, but doomed to end in tragedy"
@Anna-zi7sx
@Anna-zi7sx 6 ай бұрын
Valid
@mira.r
@mira.r 6 ай бұрын
this is my exact thought omg!! they 100% never dated, never confessed their feelings, were never remotely honest with their feelings, BUT heavily pined for one another. 3 years of high school of yearning, then a falling-out, then 10 more years of even MORE painful yearning. they're like the poster-relationship of doomed yaoi.
@WnxoSG2412
@WnxoSG2412 5 ай бұрын
​@@mira.r why would you do this to me ☹️
@mira.r
@mira.r 5 ай бұрын
@@WnxoSG2412 I just like being realistic, sorry. And with realism comes lots and lots of angst and unconfessed feelings. I just can't seem to suspend my belief and ever think that these 2 could be romantically involved with each other =((
@peytonthecajun4109
@peytonthecajun4109 5 ай бұрын
Also, gojo felt untouchable by anyone else because no one could hurt him in any way, no one could come close to him with his power, literally, but geto was able to get through that, he was able to have power over gojo, the reason we hate falling in love is because it gives others too much power over us, so it was the only thing that could give anyone power over gojo, that’s why geto made him feel not as untouchable, not because he could actually rival him in power, but because he had that innate, unconditional power over him Also gojo lashing out in front of the KFC was like him threatening to leak geto’s nudes if he walked away
@bitnn4703
@bitnn4703 7 ай бұрын
Personally, I don't think JJK is about romantic love. I think its about love in general. Familial Love, Romantic Love, The Love for a Friend. There's examples of all types of them. Maki's love for her sister, Choso's love for his Brothers, Yuta's love for Rika, Hana's love for Megumi, Yuji's love for his friends, Geto's Love for fellow Sorcerers. It was never about romantic love in specific. Even more specifically, its about how love is a curse, and how it leads to terrible things. Maki's love for her sister led to a massacre. Choso's love for his brother's led to his death, and to his own self esteem being beyond diminished. Yuta's love for Rika... well it literally cursed him. Hana's love for Megumi led to not only her own injuries, but to Megumi becoming Sukuna's vessel. Yuji's love for his friends led to him suffering immensely, and many of those friends dying or suffering. Geto's love for his fellow sorcerers led to him going down the wrong path in life. Not only that, but those who forsake love are rewarded. Sukuna, namely, but also characters like Kenjaku, Uraume, Kashimo, even some Jujutsu High students like Hakari forsake love in different ways. Even worse, the one who learned what love is, Kashimo, died as soon as he learned it. But... not nessecarily. The more the story goes on, the more this narrative begins to change. The more love becomes a blessing rather than a curse. And the more those who forsake it get cursed instead. Sukuna has gone though absolute hell, Kenjaku died as a result, Uraume and Hakari are locked in a stalemate, with no way to help their allies. But Kashimo... he got rewarded as well as punished, in a way. He died, but he died happy and fufilled. The more characters embrace their love for each other, the more they win against Sukuna. The closer victory is. And I believe the one spearheading this is Yuji. The one who suffered the most from it, is slowly beginning to flip it on its head. Slowly, but very surely.
@jakob9323
@jakob9323 7 ай бұрын
Very fitting sukuna is the final villain as he views love as useless and thats probably a big reason he hates itadori so much. He is the most loving character we see
@personanonmaga5178
@personanonmaga5178 7 ай бұрын
that's a beautiful summary
@unlimon6382
@unlimon6382 7 ай бұрын
I think it's more about how love relates to violence in difference ways. Many characters were not "cursed by love" so to speak because love is part of them, but when they loose it or it starts damaging them you start wondering at what point it stops being wprth it and what point it's better to become like sukuna. Then you have characters like Toji that work completely opposite but also the same. Toji grew unstable, scornful and desperate to prove his family wrong but, once he found love, he changed. Later on, when he lost that love, he went back to how he was before, and all these voids and insucurities led him to his death and abandoning his child. It makes you question what was the real curse. The lack of love or love. The best example is Megumi. Although Toji denies it, the most probable thing is that he did love Megumi, which he named his blessing. After his wife passed, however, he became unable to take care of a child. Many like to speculate it's because it was a reminder of his dead wife, which is rather likely. In that way, it ended up being a curse too. He was essentially a character both blessed and cursed by love, but also cursed by the lack of love We can't also ignore the fact that Geto, for example, also changed because of the careless way he was forced into aituations he shouldn't have been exposed to and not feeling supported, which can be a lack of love or at least a percieved lack of love. Then we have Mei Mei and her brother, in which she doesn't really love him but she takes advantage of his feelings to explait him. And there are examples like Gojo who became a better person through love even if he also suffered greatly because of it. That way, I don't think jjk is simply going from the premise of love as a curse, but more generally from how love as a concept changes or affects people in major ways. Including the loss of loved ones, the absence of love, the lies about love, the exploitation of your love, or more positive feelings like the blooming or the discovery of love
@paullossypaulplossy
@paullossypaulplossy 6 ай бұрын
why not mention gojos love for geto in this big ass comment? Isn’t that the whole point of the video?
@bigbruh5494
@bigbruh5494 6 ай бұрын
@BERF337it ain’t even that long you’ve probably write school essays longer than this
@Raraichaa
@Raraichaa 7 ай бұрын
Adding to these: Gege has confirmed that he reads BL series. Some of the gay relationships in the BL mangas that he reads share tons of similarities with Gojo and Geto's relationship. So there's a possibility that he got inspired by them.
@Oreoss
@Oreoss 6 ай бұрын
WHAT IS THIS FR?? PUT THIS ON SKIBIDI
@GaussTheWarframe
@GaussTheWarframe 6 ай бұрын
Who knows, Suguru could’ve been wanting to “expand” Satorus “Domain” the whole time
@Na0m1z_
@Na0m1z_ 6 ай бұрын
​@@GaussTheWarframeASJDJFJFKDHHFEJDJFD 😭😭😭
@OsamuDazai_Beloved
@OsamuDazai_Beloved 6 ай бұрын
LMAOO WHATT 😭😭​@@GaussTheWarframe
@kkkumofie
@kkkumofie 6 ай бұрын
​@@GaussTheWarframe CRAZY WORKKKK
@Unknown-Alice
@Unknown-Alice 6 ай бұрын
One of my favorite little thing that could maybe just be coincidence is that when you count the days between Geto and Gojo dates of birth, then look for the day in between, its July 7th, also the day of the tanabata festival in Japan or the day of STAR CROSSED LOVERS. Like Im sorry??? Also Geto's birthday being the first day of spring in Japan and their entire relationship being viewed as Gojo's first and last spring of youth, which is another way of saying the time of your first love?! They actually make me feel insane Gege please
@lelamo4619
@lelamo4619 6 ай бұрын
ain't no way that could be a coincidence
@roroo
@roroo 5 ай бұрын
STOP I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS YOUR BRAIN>>
@Unknown-Alice
@Unknown-Alice 5 ай бұрын
@@roroo LMAO it wasnt from me but i did do the math myself and it lines up perfectly :3
@RosePetalsandDaffodils
@RosePetalsandDaffodils 4 ай бұрын
Also “Where our blue is” was released on July 7th on Apple Music… coincidence… I think not
@roroo
@roroo 4 ай бұрын
@@RosePetalsandDaffodils you’re COOKINGGG
@alexmanrique2280
@alexmanrique2280 7 ай бұрын
Btw the producer that told the Steven universe crew that a gay wedding could kill the show was a gay man
@Seraphinamagi
@Seraphinamagi 7 ай бұрын
Damn
@AJGundam
@AJGundam 7 ай бұрын
Friendly fire will not be tolerated
@jamesjones5023
@jamesjones5023 7 ай бұрын
I mean i definitely stopped watching it because of the gay pandering.
@justinhigginbottom8668
@justinhigginbottom8668 7 ай бұрын
​@@jamesjones5023 you're such a dork 😂
@TheManDude
@TheManDude 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@jamesjones5023”I mean I definitely stopped watching Sesame Street after it started teaching kids to resolve their issue peacefully.”
@tras500
@tras500 7 ай бұрын
10:30 it's also important to mention gojo actively picked that day. in chapter 221 when gojo gets unsealed and confronts kenjaku kenny initially proposes november 19, but gojo asks for december 24 and kenny replies "how romantic" now this could be interpreted as romanticism between gojo and sukuna, but the fact that kenny the person who has access to geto's memories and knows when he died says it leads me to believe otherwise. also on the topic of trans and non-binary characters in japanese media while i have zero credibility in the topic and am basically a complete outsider to japanese culture I believe gender transition is a bit more accepted in japanese culture than homosexuality moon channel has a great video on the topic if anyone is interested
@dannyblanco8544
@dannyblanco8544 5 ай бұрын
What’s the video called?😅
@倪文瑄
@倪文瑄 5 ай бұрын
in a lot of east asia, transsexualism is more accepted than homosexuality
@funkyfranx
@funkyfranx 4 ай бұрын
@@倪文瑄 That's because they're more comfortable gay men turning themselves into straight trans women than they are with gay men just being men
@annaissodone
@annaissodone 4 ай бұрын
kenjaku also possesses geto's memories so he knows what that day means to them and also presumably knows the 3 words gojo said to geto before killing him
@Certifiedfrogluvr
@Certifiedfrogluvr 7 ай бұрын
It think it’s fine if you see them as lovers or if you see them as friends, but regardless of how you see them as long as you understand how important they are to each other in the series that’s all that really matters.
@everythingz888
@everythingz888 6 ай бұрын
Yes!!
@joykittyzits
@joykittyzits 6 ай бұрын
Exactly, but in the end of the day gege unfortunately never explicitly confirmed it or at least yet. So we shouldn’t ever really say its canon, its just heavily implied by the fans & others.
@gamer3d147
@gamer3d147 6 ай бұрын
I feel like no one should argue that they’re soulmates
@BeaTades
@BeaTades 6 ай бұрын
yesss!!!! this!
@uwu-chan
@uwu-chan 6 ай бұрын
Yup, whether they are interpreted as friends or lovers, they are soulmates and deeply care about each other. That doesn’t change no matter how you see them.
@nonopenope
@nonopenope 5 ай бұрын
We know three things about the last thing Gojo said to Geto: 1. It's 3 words in English (confirmed by Gojo's EN VA). 2. It was spoken at some point in JJK 0 (stated by Gege in an interview). 3. Geto's responded to it by smiling and saying "at least curse me at the end." "I love you" consists of 3 words in English and was spoken by Yuta in an earlier scene. It also makes sense given Geto's response.
@subsbygrace
@subsbygrace 5 ай бұрын
RAGGHH OMGGG
@Molly-e8m
@Molly-e8m 2 ай бұрын
THIS IS SO... but I thought it was for cinematic, the studio did a pretty good job *still sob* because letting the viewer figure it out for themselves is what makes them remember it longer. yeah, i heard MAPPA really likes Gege
@rerorero6493
@rerorero6493 Ай бұрын
man, stop hurting me like this
@elisabethsun7059
@elisabethsun7059 Ай бұрын
“My best friend” is also an option, apparently they didn’t mute it in the Italian (?) dub (I think it was Italian) and it said something like that. Ao No Sumika also seems to point at it being “Will we meet again?” but it’s not 3 words. Though an unofficial translation of the Light Novel gives the description that Gojo’s words were “embarrassing (translator’s note: makes you self conscious)” so it could definitely be something like “I love you”
@TheCarrot85
@TheCarrot85 Ай бұрын
Also, the Japanese VA of Gojo said the line is "such embarassing/cheesy words" (Knowing Japanese culture, it would be something that directly displays some kind of love and emotion. Japanese finds that cheesy and embarrassing to say/hear from/to a loved one) I went through the entire English transcript of JJK 0, finding sentences that fits these 4 conditions "I love you." is the only answer
@mymelodyjeongin5644
@mymelodyjeongin5644 6 ай бұрын
they're gay, because if one of them was a girl nobody would argue about their relationship
@LiN0K_
@LiN0K_ 6 ай бұрын
Ehhhhh not really. In fact it’s quite the opposite actually. People nowadays fetishize and sexualize BL/GL characters and openly hate straight ships. That’s why I personally don’t view them as lovers (cuz a lot of ppl sexualize their relationship) but I can’t view them as “just friends” either. The “love” they have for each other much deeper than that
@Däl-user
@Däl-user 6 ай бұрын
​@@LiN0K_when did someone fetishize or sexualize their relationship?
@applejuice8118
@applejuice8118 6 ай бұрын
@@LiN0K_do you live under a rock?
@zennaonthez
@zennaonthez 6 ай бұрын
yeah probably because the way gojo and geto behave is extremely common for asian boys to behave with their besties but not with girls. I always saw them as friends as i've seen thousands of friendships like theirs is in real life. Westerners will probably call this gay but idk seems just like friendship to me.
@molester628
@molester628 6 ай бұрын
no they are not.
@saawysorenson4585
@saawysorenson4585 7 ай бұрын
I also thought it was just to express the way Gojo was fixated on Geto, in his eyes he was the only one sharing the same world with Gojo, love, romance whatever Geto was his world for all purposes. Gojo might not even understand what love is as hinted to, he just knew that Geto was the only one to ever understand him, love might not even be enough to describe it, romantic or not.
@xyippee
@xyippee 7 ай бұрын
16:12 im also pretty sure that japan has a weird relationship with people being gay vs being trans, so it’s “less controversial” to be trans than it is to be gay, strangely enough.
@airplanes_aren.t_real
@airplanes_aren.t_real 7 ай бұрын
I've heard that it's more about conforming to a specific standard than just identity Like if a trans person aligns themselves with the stereotypical idea of what their gender is they are more likely to be accepted than a gay man that is already not conforming
@xyippee
@xyippee 7 ай бұрын
@@airplanes_aren.t_real oh yeah, this exactly
@magicnebula5398
@magicnebula5398 6 ай бұрын
How do they feel about non binary or bisexual people than 👽
@xyippee
@xyippee 6 ай бұрын
@@magicnebula5398 i wouldn’t know lol😶 probably badly since i used gay as a synonym for queer in general, and non binary would likely be seen as weird too, since the acceptance of trans people in japan seems to rely on how much they conform to the standard of their gender, and there isnt really a standard to non binary people
@burnbats
@burnbats 6 ай бұрын
what if your trans and gay
@TOIKA_2AM
@TOIKA_2AM 6 ай бұрын
It literally doesn’t change the story so I don’t know why people are so against them being in love 💀
@vulmere
@vulmere 6 ай бұрын
true 😭 to me it makes their relationship even more painful just that but it really doesn't change anything
@antoniocarlosoliveira9146
@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 6 ай бұрын
I personally think it ruins a bit of the symbolism behind these 2 , ever since day 1 , gojo was told he was the strongest, he was told he was the reason the balance of humans and curses in jjk shifted , he was pretty much treated like a god and kept away from the outside world by his clan , but then , when he met geto , he could finally have someone just strong enough to relate to , and the thing is , geto pulled gojo down to earth , geto was a special grade who grew up in a family of non-sorcerers , he wasnt raised and treated like a god , he didnt turn out to be arrogant , he was Humble, that is what helped geto change gojo in a way you know ? Geto was the Bridge between gojo and his humanity , because gojo didnt belive he could have such a thing when ever since day 1 he was treated like a god and a tool , so them being BFFS , at least me , makes way more sense , and yes , i can acknowledge that gojo and geto do share such a deep bond that not many BFFs have , but i see it as platonic love , that they saw eachother as brothers . ( ps. But that doesnt mean i hate anyone who ships these 2 , u can i ship them , i personally find the ship very saturated and overrated and i've already been through this before with naruto x sasuke , despite everyone shiping them , i never did and always saw them a friends , in the end , naruto got with hinata ).
@pannajohns5255
@pannajohns5255 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 but Naruto didn’t get with Sakura? She got with Sasuke and Naruto got with Hinata, though their relationships don’t have much chemistry, especially Sasuke and Sakura
@antoniocarlosoliveira9146
@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 6 ай бұрын
@@pannajohns5255 oh sorry , i keep mixing up these 2 , its been a long time since i watched naruto.
@Justy_cz
@Justy_cz 6 ай бұрын
Because they aren't. No hints. No nothing. There were literaly no romantic feelings between them.
@Bleached_fusion-uj6vw
@Bleached_fusion-uj6vw 7 ай бұрын
i thought geto x gojo was a meme, then I watched season 2, and the move and completely agreed
@SharkSalesman90
@SharkSalesman90 6 ай бұрын
Right?? It's like so heavily implied
@Unknown-Alice
@Unknown-Alice 5 ай бұрын
Lmao that was also me i was so confused because of Kenjaku TT after being hyerfixated on it for a few month, I can safely say they are atleast heavily implied as long as you just look out for it
@moonstone-spell-caster
@moonstone-spell-caster 4 ай бұрын
Nooo, same could be said between me and my best friend but I am not sexually attracted to her
@Unknown-Alice
@Unknown-Alice 3 ай бұрын
@@moonstone-spell-caster Ok? That literally means nothing, you can compare both relationships all you want it has 0 value
@AAABatteries.
@AAABatteries. Ай бұрын
Same fr
@juicegirl2696
@juicegirl2696 7 ай бұрын
Japanese speaker here. I liked Ao no Sumika before I knew Jujutsu Kaisen (a lot anime op’s are regular songs to me). I thought it was a love song/breakup song.
@user-em8yf6nq1r
@user-em8yf6nq1r 5 ай бұрын
Porque lo es
@myownsunshine3570
@myownsunshine3570 6 ай бұрын
Finally, someone said it! I'm so fucking happy someone said this outloud in a public platform such as youtube. You literally said all the points that me and (some of) my friends have made among ourselves. What I've come to notice is that most people who see Gojo and Geto as queer are queer viewers - I speak as a sapphic woman. My queer friends and I think that Gojo and Geto's romantic feelings were obvious, meanwhile my straight friends and older brother don't really see it (they usually they accept other interpretations, but I'm highly aware that this is something that is not that common among the JJK fandom, my friends are just very open minded). I think queer people grew up looking for representation between the lines, so we are used to this type of situations; while staight people are used to have everything presentend to them on a plate, which makes them less accustomed to subtle romantic plotlines such as this. Also, thank you for pointing out the differences between the american/canadian/european and japanese views on lgbtq+ rights. In the West, we tend to forget that our morals and ways of thinking are not universal. It's safest for the mangaka for the characters' sexualities or genders to be vague, if they wish to make a story with a queer subplot - it's not ideal, but it's the reality. Hopefully, in a decade or two, japanese mentality and laws will change and queer people like me won't be called insane for seeing the obvious. Great video, I'll check out your other stuff! Maybe you'll gain a new subscriber.
@Qkkkqr_
@Qkkkqr_ 6 ай бұрын
This is off topic but is it wrong for me to think Naruto and Sasuke had something 😭?
@Honered_fr
@Honered_fr 6 ай бұрын
@@Qkkkqr_Bro😭
@Qkkkqr_
@Qkkkqr_ 6 ай бұрын
@@Honered_fr is it wrong tho?? 😭😭
@GreenTeaGal01
@GreenTeaGal01 6 ай бұрын
lol "someone." i didn't even realize people were still debating it till i saw this video
@Unknown-Alice
@Unknown-Alice 5 ай бұрын
@@Qkkkqr_ Without having watched Naruto, from what ive heard theyre kinda queercoded?? I mean idk, I feel its more like queerbait since theyre just like "woops just kidding theyre straight as hell" but im never watching Naruto soo idk
@ARandomEliatrope
@ARandomEliatrope 7 ай бұрын
I like how, despite mentioning the opening, you didn't even bother going into the nuance of the visuals and meaning of them, with the fighting fish and such, because that single line was really all you needed to prove it.
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 7 ай бұрын
He literally said lets not get into the themes on this video. Theres alot to unpack in the opening but he is touching on it to prove the overall story.
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 7 ай бұрын
@null6406 no for something that big it needs it own seperate video dedicated to that only. He is using that factor to once again show how gay they were through the _overall_ story. The themes are one factor just as many others he mentioned in which he condensed into one, this video dedicated to all the hints not just the theme songs
@theyoungknight.3119
@theyoungknight.3119 7 ай бұрын
@null6406 Sometimes delving too deep into the evidence can stray you away from the point you are trying to make, The video isn’t just about proving if they were gay but rather Jallo was trying to show us the deeper nuance of the implications that them being gay represents.
@yulimartorrealba5851
@yulimartorrealba5851 6 ай бұрын
​@@SemekiIzuio What's in the opening? What happens in fish's part?
@Unknown-Alice
@Unknown-Alice 5 ай бұрын
@@yulimartorrealba5851 So the opening is pretty clearly a love song going as far as to use the romantic word for love (koi) in japanese. Its also very clearly about Gojo's teenage years, and implied to be a sort of letter to Geto, the same way the ending is from Geto to Gojo about his defection from Jujutsu high. Ive actually done an analysis of both songs and god its crazy how much love symbolism is in there 😭 The fighting fish, or betta fish symbolism, is about the fishes that are shown in the ending (i think, maybe the OP). They represent Gojo and Geto, being both white at the start before one of them darkens and becomes "sick". The reason they are betta/fighting fish is because two males of the species cannot be together since theyre extremely territorial and one will end up killing the other for dominance.... Also, when the black fish is in front of Gojo, he cant help but stare at it, but Geto closes his eyes and ignore the white fish passing in front of him, showing how their relationship is decaying over time for Geto but Gojo is kind of oblivious to it. Yeah its pretty sad :(
@pannajohns5255
@pannajohns5255 6 ай бұрын
They are literal soulmates. They remind me of Soul and Maka from Soul Eater, they are soulmates, you can’t imagine them with anyone else, if they were it feels unnatural and forced, they just make sense. Wether it’s as lovers or best friends, their love is unbreakable
@tlpa
@tlpa 3 ай бұрын
soul eater is Cool
@CherryNah
@CherryNah 6 ай бұрын
There is 'love' between them. I don't really care about if people interpretation is romantic one, platonic one or whatever: is an intense one and is what hurts about they parting away from each other's lives.
@Suited_Nat
@Suited_Nat 4 ай бұрын
Yep.
@ApplePi3.1415
@ApplePi3.1415 6 ай бұрын
Also. Fun detail but the KFC break up spot was in shinjuku. SHINJUKU. The gay hub of Tokyo. Known for their gay bars. Hell they arnt even far from one when they broke up.
@meghanrodriguez2393
@meghanrodriguez2393 5 ай бұрын
That's amazing!
@ryzennte
@ryzennte 2 ай бұрын
this is genuinely a hilarious detail how odd would it be to have this as a coincidence
@mariem8705
@mariem8705 5 ай бұрын
Just like ‘Ao No Sumika’, is a love letter to Suguru. ‘Akari’, is a love letters to Satoru. “Realizing that something seemingly everywhere Exists only here In the trivial silence of the night Only I, residing in memories, awaken It exists only here I want to touch you Even with trivial conversations Show me your blushing face once more”
@Megumi_Fuhiguro.
@Megumi_Fuhiguro. 6 ай бұрын
And lets mention that gojo has sore eyes when he wakes up in his chair at the end of the hidden inventory arc. So he cried while thinking about his past with geto . Hinting that he misses him
@recuperalendy
@recuperalendy Ай бұрын
I would cry too if i had a best friend like gojo
@ndoie
@ndoie 5 ай бұрын
chat is it gay that I would literally sacrifice the entire world for my best friend who I am totally 100% into
@Pindie12321
@Pindie12321 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Please come to terms with your blatant homosexuality.
@miku_dayo7688
@miku_dayo7688 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's kinda gae
@RumiCatty
@RumiCatty 4 ай бұрын
Idk...I guess it is a bit 🙃
@toyafan0111
@toyafan0111 3 ай бұрын
seems really straight to me!
@hi.k1
@hi.k1 Ай бұрын
history would say you’re just friends
@Sammy117
@Sammy117 6 ай бұрын
I also think that Geto having a “family” consisting of individuals who are considered on the “outskirts of the acceptable majority” within a very conservative Japan, says something too (orphans (mininana & negi), a black person, someone who is very likely lgbtq, and a woman sorcerer who probably isn’t that mainstream amongst sorcerers who are predominantly male).
@Suited_Nat
@Suited_Nat 4 ай бұрын
I agree with this so hard.
@-Radical.Ed-
@-Radical.Ed- 2 ай бұрын
I recognize everyone except the lgbtq, you mean Geto himself or another person?
@ridztheloon9193
@ridztheloon9193 2 ай бұрын
@@-Radical.Ed-larue
@Sammy117
@Sammy117 2 ай бұрын
@ I’d consider Larue to be a person who is likely to identify as lgbtq. He looks like how one might caricature a gay Mama-san in manga, I guess?
@chosoistryinghisbest
@chosoistryinghisbest 6 ай бұрын
someone pointed out that gojo has remembered geto for longer than he had actually spent time with him and I fell to my knees. if you think about it, they didn't even spend that much time with each other, they spent maybe 3 years actually together. and gojo spends the next decade remembering geto. in season 2, star plasma vessel arc they were in their 2nd year which was 2006. In 2007, the next year Geto starts his murder spree and cult. he never even graduated from jjk high, so they were very much still in school. So from only 2004/2005ish-2007, is how long they *actually* spent together. Gojo then procedes to just have to remember Geto from 2007 to 2017 when he ended up killing Geto. If you think about it, it's like how could they even be so sure of who the other is, and why do they keep refering to each other as best friends even when they both haven't even seen the other in a while? I can't take this as platonic because to *ME* there's something more here than just friendship. To me, it's like they're both holding onto a love from days gone by. And its something that only works because they're still hung up on each other. If they weren't they would've just killed each other by now, they wouldn't have waited 10 years waiting.
@hanako_0319
@hanako_0319 2 ай бұрын
Oh my god! I never consciously thought about that. I'm gonna cry. 😭 I am 100% convinced their love is of romantic nature, I accept if someone doesn't see it that way, but I won't let anyone try to change my opinion.
@airy_fairy
@airy_fairy Ай бұрын
They’ve been meeting for hate sex every six months
@rajmohabe8412
@rajmohabe8412 6 ай бұрын
i can’t believe I got recommended a 25 minute long video about if gojo and geto are gay
@teslajeffrey
@teslajeffrey 6 ай бұрын
i can
@uwu-chan
@uwu-chan 6 ай бұрын
legendary yt recommendation pull
@rajmohabe8412
@rajmohabe8412 6 ай бұрын
@@uwu-chan fr
@kaleidoscopecatsz
@kaleidoscopecatsz 6 ай бұрын
so worth those 25 minutes of my life fr
@Unknown-Alice
@Unknown-Alice 5 ай бұрын
I cant believe it wasnt recommended to me and i had to look it up
@ShockedTaiLung
@ShockedTaiLung 7 ай бұрын
Finally a REAL JJK analysis!
@MonoNako
@MonoNako 4 ай бұрын
If one of them was a girl would this even be a debate? People so inherently against this kinda stuff with non-hetero relationships it's weird.
@toyafan0111
@toyafan0111 3 ай бұрын
THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYINGGG peoples bigotry just jump the fuck out when you express that you can see satosugu in a romantic way even though their closeness is indisputable. but if one of the was a girl they would praise how it’s the best ship in the world due to all the canon and background information on them… like it’s okay to like a gay ship it’s not gonna kill you
@editornoob4606
@editornoob4606 2 ай бұрын
I mean, I've seen ppl do this with itakugi🤷🏾‍♂️ but overall yeah
@AAABatteries.
@AAABatteries. Ай бұрын
Yeah, exactly. I don't know why people have to be like this :/
@GetoSuguru-z7c
@GetoSuguru-z7c 5 ай бұрын
In a novelized JJK0, there is a line that I found would fit the whole romance thing, in my opinion. "Even so, Gojo's gaze, covered under the white bandages, had always, always, been staring at the shape of Geto's soul"
@Puddlycake
@Puddlycake 4 ай бұрын
24:50 “using the censorship in favor of the story” I don’t think it’s possible to word this in a better way, this explains everything
@kingoftropes922
@kingoftropes922 7 ай бұрын
Regardless of how romantic that love they have is, the fact that it is so intense, that it is so defining to both of them is kind of what is more important, at least to me, about their story. It's easy to write off anyone who says they are gay as just being fujos obsessed with making any closely involved male characters butt buddies but as this video points out there is more than enough to argue that there's a lot more to it. And it's easy to write off anyone who says they're just friends as just being homophobic but there is a certain level of beauty that exists within two people platonically loving and caring for each other so deeply and I think it's genuinely important to have representation of deep love between two people of the same sex that doesn't just come down to being romantically involved since not all love that is deep has to be romantic. Regardless of how you feel though, there is one undeniable fact in all this. *KENJAKU IS A PAN ICON.* #MYGOAT
@yothisdogisbehavinggoofyaf5248
@yothisdogisbehavinggoofyaf5248 7 ай бұрын
PANJAKU FTW
@crocoboi7936
@crocoboi7936 7 ай бұрын
Facts it’s the same thing where people ship Naruto and sasuke or gon and killua just because they are really close doesn’t necessarily mean they are gay.
@jakob9323
@jakob9323 7 ай бұрын
Kenjaku is NOT a pan icon (it was for the mission trust)
@elliciencias2197
@elliciencias2197 7 ай бұрын
​@@crocoboi7936 the Naruto x Sasuke thing makes a lot of sense, they shared two kisses between each other, Naruto has sacrificed his life more than once for Sasuke and so does Sasuke to him, they've passed trough, done and share more things that with their girlfriends so Naruto x Sasuke is actually a ship that makes forreal sense. Gon x Killua doesn't since both of their characters are children that found comfort on each other and so became friends trough two defining factors gon is strong and so is Killua.
@crocoboi7936
@crocoboi7936 7 ай бұрын
@@elliciencias2197 first of all the kiss was just a joke it was complete accident also Naruto has been interested In women the whole series. Bro has sexy jutsu. They had a brotherly bond because of asura and Indra
@vianabdullah2837
@vianabdullah2837 7 ай бұрын
I've always interpreted them being soulmates, but it's vague enough to be considered up to interpretion. Even Mei Mei and Ui Ui is more explicit lol.
@wontonschannel
@wontonschannel 7 ай бұрын
bit of an understatement.
@justinhigginbottom8668
@justinhigginbottom8668 7 ай бұрын
Like Zelda and link, besides the first game there relationship is always vague enough to be interpreted
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 7 ай бұрын
It kinda tells a sad story that you can have such inappropriate things shown in most anime popular and manga. A lot of underage (coded or explicit) stuff with adult is still considered fine. Even incestuous things are more allowed. But two confirmed gays sharing a peck on the lips? That is too much.
@mira.r
@mira.r 6 ай бұрын
​​@@Sienisota right? i see so many jjk fans treating mei and ui's whole dynamic as 'haha mei mei's literally drake someone come get her' but the moment they see anyone interpreting sugusato's relationship as romantic, they lose their absolute sh..t. make it make sense to me istg.
@gamer3d147
@gamer3d147 6 ай бұрын
I think what’s vague is them being romantic and up to interpretation. But them being soulmates is clear, Gojo denies his abilities, the thing that makes him himself yet he claims his soul knows otherwise
@Skelo.t2k
@Skelo.t2k Ай бұрын
My jaw dropped of how you explained this. (Fr) Even with the manga and the animation. Your explanation is perfect and is forever going to stay in the back of my head. Thank you for explaining.
@BLAnna7
@BLAnna7 29 күн бұрын
For me, they are definitely lovers, or at least, they love each other, but never talked about it. Maybe only Satoru has feelings for Suguru, which would make it even more tragic in my eyes tbh. Love the video, thanks for sharing it! 💜
@lolkuok6705
@lolkuok6705 7 ай бұрын
" Whatever Hakari and Kirara have going on" * Shows a panel of Hakari touching Kiraras Butt, like its a regular Tuesday for them both*
@brunitop4753
@brunitop4753 7 ай бұрын
You don't touch your homies like that?
@hairlessgrizzly559
@hairlessgrizzly559 7 ай бұрын
Gaygay was cooking when he made the genderqueer character hot as fuck
@respectfulevil9022
@respectfulevil9022 7 ай бұрын
good for them tbh
@evilwizardcat1234
@evilwizardcat1234 7 ай бұрын
gege cooked when making kirara and kashimo tbh
@jakob9323
@jakob9323 7 ай бұрын
​@@hairlessgrizzly559almost all the characters are hot its not a suprise
@CloudyDaze
@CloudyDaze 7 ай бұрын
More than any powerscaling video, this is the kind of analysis that keeps me engaged with the series. It gets to the heart as to why this series is so great and also so infuriating. Interpretation. The top of Gojo and Geto needing to be vague by necessity instead of being black and white is undoubtedly great writing. I just wish we didn't have that desire to ask for a straight answer, otherwise conversations would be less painful to have. Also the bit about the theme blew my mind. I shared the clip with my friend. Pray for my safety.
@teslajeffrey
@teslajeffrey 6 ай бұрын
nah nah it wouldnt be a straight answer hehehe ghhdhhgghcxtycc
@Suited_Nat
@Suited_Nat 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, these are the videos that are severely lacking in the JJK commentary community. I’m sick of seeing powerscaling, since the nuance of the series is chefs kiss 🙂‍↕️
@deejus_e
@deejus_e 7 ай бұрын
Yea they fruitacious keep scrolling 😤
@kevinvescio4778
@kevinvescio4778 7 ай бұрын
Yo wsp Deejus I am a subscriber
@FlOotch
@FlOotch 7 ай бұрын
Deejus spotted
@Bleached_fusion-uj6vw
@Bleached_fusion-uj6vw 7 ай бұрын
i got to know HOW gay they are though!
@sphynx2691
@sphynx2691 7 ай бұрын
GEGE WRITE ONE YAOI CHAPTER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!
@marymay4723
@marymay4723 7 ай бұрын
​@sphynx2691 for real I would pay ANYTHING for him to make a little fantasy side story "what if they could be together" thing. I would be completed
@natsuryuu
@natsuryuu 7 ай бұрын
The theme of them longing for each other but being pushed away by fate is so heart-wrenching. If nothing else, it's a poignant reminder of how ephemeral existence is and how helpless even the strongest can feel when they cannot stop the most important thing from just seeping through their fingers. Fun fact, the street their 'KFC break-up' happens in is called Omoide Yokocho (思い出横丁), which can be translated to 'Memory Lane'. Also, after the latest manga chapters, the other Gojo's image song (Mada Minu Ashita ni by Asian Kung-Fu Generation) feels even more prophetic in how it portrayed the dynamics of these two.
@bubsbuben914
@bubsbuben914 7 ай бұрын
Something I do not think is discussed about enough is how a lot of people who vehemently say they're not lovers are usually comparing it to their real relationships and are uncomfortable with mlm relationships with characters they like. It's a huge problem in shonen communities where many people feel uncomfortable with gay relationships because they hate the idea that one could perhaps see them as such
@Facials75
@Facials75 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t think that’s why people don’t really like mlm, yaoi and yuri is very fetishized and a lot of shippers take over said community and fill it with mostly just ships of wlw and mlm, and with how much it is shown in communities and etc. it can get annoying very annoying
@miko-ee
@miko-ee 6 ай бұрын
To put it in words, I had a similar relationship with my best friend. It was a really weird blur line between love and friends.
@LittleSparklingStars
@LittleSparklingStars 6 ай бұрын
That's completely besides the point. I read BL, but I'm not crazy like some people out there. I acknowledge strong platonic relationships exist, and to me Gege was very clear and explicit that their love is a platonic one, not romantic or sexual.
@mariem8705
@mariem8705 5 ай бұрын
Or they want them straight for themselves. Do you know how many of the gojo & geto fangirls would lose their minds if they found out both of them are gay?
@MONNSTROSITY
@MONNSTROSITY 5 ай бұрын
@@LittleSparklingStarshe modeled gojo and getos relationship after a BL he read that ended in tragedy. Ignoring nuances doesn’t mean the author intended something to be one specific way. They have a sort of romantic relationship whether or not it’s more than platonic. There are many, many things he wrote that point to it being explicitly romantic, but that doesn’t mean it immediately makes them in love with each other. But still…
@swaggiraffelord6309
@swaggiraffelord6309 7 ай бұрын
One moment in the show that might relate to this topic is how Gojo's students didn't even know what he truly looked like until after he killed Geto. Like showing that his students didnt know anything really about him as he didnt know what to do with his feelings until after its to late to go back
@raec5426
@raec5426 6 ай бұрын
Well he did tell Yuta about getting his ID from his best friend and in turn Yuta took it upon himself to want to kill Kenjaku so that Gojo wouldn't kill his best friend again. So Yuta got a peek at that side of Gojo.
@pepics3069
@pepics3069 7 ай бұрын
Now I want a whole jjk ships series from you.
@airplanes_aren.t_real
@airplanes_aren.t_real 7 ай бұрын
Jjk ship tierlist
@Dogeycorgi
@Dogeycorgi 6 ай бұрын
@@airplanes_aren.t_realsix seasons and a movie
@TheHonored01
@TheHonored01 5 ай бұрын
​@@Dogeycorgia man of culture i see
@hello1735
@hello1735 Ай бұрын
I've never thought of them being gay until now. I was like, "huh, these are a pair of very good friends" and I love my friends very much so it made so much sense how they acted to me. And hey, there's nothing wrong with that either. Love is love, whether romantic or platonic. But I can definitely see them as gay given all the nuances surrounding their relationship. Anyways, it doesn't matter if they're gay or not. It is undeniable that these two loved each other, and nothing will change that whether you believe it or not.
@TheAngryMarshmallow
@TheAngryMarshmallow 2 ай бұрын
Holy fuck. This is the BEST video i have seen on the subject. The nuance and the backed up logical argument is perfection. You did it quite succintly as well! You just earned a follow from me!!! Bell and all. Fantastic work!
@NUMBER1FRANCISGLAZER
@NUMBER1FRANCISGLAZER 19 күн бұрын
I don't know how to describe it but, whenever I feel sad about satosugu I just come back to this video. like some sort of comfort video.
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy 7 ай бұрын
I was going through most of this video with so many thoughts but the way you ended it made me like it so much more, I appreciate the fact that you didn't just call the non - shippers stupid and move on with it slapping them with the hints layered throughout the series, cuz really, it's not anyone's fault for not knowing 24th December is Valentine's Day in Japan or that KFC is a romantic food item (that shit still blows my fucking mind man, Gege you sneaky little....). I think people who've read the story and had the impression that they were best friends don't deserve to have their view forcefully changed, because in the end, they had just as much emotional attachment to their friendship as someone who interpreted otherwise had to their romance, saying things like, that would just make their story better and more tragic (Mother's Basement said that in his OP analysis where I first found out about all this) is a little disingenuous as in my opinion friendship and romance are separate drives and one doesn't have to invalidate the other, having romance in a relationship doesn't automatically make it more, and it kinda sucks to see that implied so many times in stories and social media, even subtly with phrases like, "more than friends" or "just friends", I might just be saying all this as an aromantic who barely experiences one of those feelings but alot of my friends share the same opinion. And same goes for the people wanting them to be gay, I believe both sides can just simply, accept a different opinion and even appreciate the fact that a form of art they love is nuanced enough to be open to interpretation.
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 7 ай бұрын
As another aro ace you totally get me. Theres alot of implications sure but nothings been confirmed so it can be left as it is to the person that fits best for them either frienship or more. It is smart not to confirm anything because it would absolutely destroy and chaos to the manga and characters considering how much of an Icon Gojo is and how globally popular JJK is to the point its very dangerous. But still I personally would just like an answer just so that everyone gets their answers and this speculation hinting obviousness gets put to rest. I can imagine after JJK is over people will still wonder.
@mira.r
@mira.r 6 ай бұрын
As someone who isn't aromantic but hasn't experienced any romantic attraction yet, is romance not "more" than friendship? I feel like it genuinely means a relationship with more intimacy, affection, loyalty, and closeness than friendship right? There are some things you could admit to your beloved but not to your closest friend. Though, I suppose you would consider your closest friend something akin to your beloved..? Also, I feel like phrases like "more than friends" and the like just refer to romance having more intimacy and stuff than friendship, not that it's more meaningful or superior to it. Sorry for the rambling; I'm genuinely curious about how you would view these types of things. I hope I didn't offend you in any of this 🥹
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy 6 ай бұрын
@@mira.r Oh no I'm absolutely not offended, I myself wrote this in curiosity of others' opinions as well. I personally believe (funny coming from me) that even though relationships are generally prefered with the closest friends and have the potential to greatly enchance the bond between two people due to all the time and things they get together, making it a general estimate is still something I wouldn't agree with, I think people are perfecttly capable of making friends they share very close bonds with without any form of intimicy or romance, just like they're capable to getting into potentially bad relationships, and when it comes to things like secrets, my friends pretty much all there is to know about me and I would like to believe it goes both ways :D. With phrases like "just friends", it is possible they don't imply superiority, I obviously don't know the origin of these and shouldn't have implied otherwise. But I stil believe, especially in western moveies, that friendships between people who have the potential to be attracted to each other is often sidelines in favour of their romance, Harry and Hermonie from the Harry Potter movies comes to mind (not to say she should've ended with Ron), and I just personally don't like to see that.
@ichi_san
@ichi_san 6 ай бұрын
I love this video, thank you. No matter how people interpret these two, this video emphasises just how deeply they love and care for each other. I see them in a more romantic lens, but I get that sometimes platonic relationships can be very deep too. OMG!!! The multiple christmas eve references gege wrote for them is GENIUS, thank u for sharing this
@mysteryman5494
@mysteryman5494 2 ай бұрын
After the ending of jjk. I just think gaygay had no idea wtf he wanted
@lain5858
@lain5858 2 ай бұрын
For real the most empty ending i read in my life
@Jelen-c5q
@Jelen-c5q 5 ай бұрын
Are we forgetting the fact that Kenjaku also took backshots for Jin and stayed so long his stitches became scars
@anyabailey9537
@anyabailey9537 20 күн бұрын
No we are trying to *repress it*
@helenaschair
@helenaschair 22 күн бұрын
a 25 minute video essay on whether or not a fictional character is gay w his best friend? hell yeah
@saltyspandex5058
@saltyspandex5058 4 ай бұрын
The thing about queer subtext is that it is everywhere in anime and manga but naturally queer fans are most likely to pick up on it and when we bring it up we are typically dismissed because of our queerness
@saltyspandex5058
@saltyspandex5058 4 ай бұрын
Also phenomenal video
@mamamiaWAAAHHH
@mamamiaWAAAHHH 3 ай бұрын
😔real
@vianabdullah2837
@vianabdullah2837 7 ай бұрын
13:54 I love the meme of using Eiji Aonuma to represent Eiichiro Oda.
@slightlydapperdwarf49
@slightlydapperdwarf49 6 ай бұрын
I think Gege did what many movie writers do when they want to keep something vague. He wrote some scenes in which it was implied that there was romance between Gojo and Geto, and some where they were just friends. The best part about this tactic is that it always leaves things up to the audiences interpretation. Personally, I think they have a very romanticized friendship, but the question of "are gojo and geto gay?" is entirely up to the viewer.
@steelraptorx
@steelraptorx 7 ай бұрын
So they loved each other , but they couldn’t tell each other
@batzev1
@batzev1 5 ай бұрын
You're fking weird 😭
@JoshucaVA
@JoshucaVA 7 ай бұрын
I like that how Megumi was given a description of pansexuality without the direct statement that he's queer
@molester628
@molester628 6 ай бұрын
he isn't, it was only on fandom.
@aditisk99
@aditisk99 5 ай бұрын
Where? In this video or in the manga??
@molester628
@molester628 5 ай бұрын
@@aditisk99 when todo asked his type, woman or man he said as long as they have a good character.
@merdandus
@merdandus 5 ай бұрын
​@aditisk99 on Wikipedia, and most of the fandom has mutually agreed that he is after the confrontation with Todo
@umyaya
@umyaya 5 ай бұрын
​@@aditisk99when todo asks megumi what his type was, he said "someone" instead of just a girl.
@quentinreeb9012
@quentinreeb9012 6 ай бұрын
I think the most interesting possibility is that their relationship was neither "friendship" not romantic. The relationship they had was heavily defined by their status of being the "strongest" and the companionship they found in being "equal" at one point. It's like two people being stranded on an island together; even if they come to love one another, first and foremost they needed each other to stay sane. That's my take at least.
@quo9138
@quo9138 4 ай бұрын
finally someone who gets it. geto was the first person gojo didn't see as an animal, its not that they had love between them, it's that he was his only equal. this also parallels to Gojo teaching Sukuna about love- them 2 aren't IN love, it's just that they're the only 2 creatures on each other's level. It's way broader than "gay or friends" its more of a question of "do i see this creature as a person or an insect"
@Lethia277
@Lethia277 Күн бұрын
Yes this.
@zzxell0
@zzxell0 7 ай бұрын
You did the absolute best possible job with this video. Thank you so so so much. For how informative you made this video and how much of the jjk story you brought into consideration. You absolutely could of made a video just abt getogojo and it would of succeeded but you did everything you could to show us WHY there relationship is the way it is and how it goes so much farther, reaching into our own world. I greatly appreciate it. I learned a lot.
@motherwar3698
@motherwar3698 6 ай бұрын
"his only regret was that he wasn't there to pat him in the back. happy pride month" SHOTS WERE FIRED AND THEY HIT MY HEART. srs tho, this was a nice video
@anonymouscommenter9478
@anonymouscommenter9478 4 ай бұрын
the exact KFC branch he chose to use is like a street away from a gay bar and in the gayest district
@coolkcroyale
@coolkcroyale 3 ай бұрын
Wait really??
@anonymouscommenter9478
@anonymouscommenter9478 3 ай бұрын
@@coolkcroyale yes!
@hatman9609
@hatman9609 Ай бұрын
Honestly I think they both had feelings and NEVER ever discussed it with each other, it wasn't something they felt was okay to ever feeling, Japan isn't exactly very respectful to gay people, this probably holds true in JJK and with the eyes of the Jujutsu world on them, it was out of the question.
@JessicaYu-eu3ks
@JessicaYu-eu3ks Ай бұрын
and the fact that gege asked the voice actor of geto to say satoru's name like a married women and greets his husband that came back from work ( idk if im correct of not but i believe this )
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 7 ай бұрын
I wasn't aware that gayness was seen as a fetish in Japan or other cultural things mentioned, so thanks for info. Personally I think Geto and Gojo weren't lovers, but they might’ve wanted to be, and would have, if things had been diffrent. Perhaps my asexuality is colouring things for me, but I think they had romantic love for each other, just without the physical aspects.
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 7 ай бұрын
Not saying physical was out of bounds, just that that it wasn’t the part that was most important to them. That it could've gone that way, if they had lived normal lives in a world where gayness was as accepted as in Western countries. But it wasn't. And they never confessed their love to each other, because the world they lived in.
@apersonwhohasnothing
@apersonwhohasnothing 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, same. I am a sore loser with no friends and because of this I have no idea how close friends are like. So, I personally prefer interpretating them as somewhat romantic or them having soulmate kind of love so that it makes it easier for me to understand them.
@LittleSparklingStars
@LittleSparklingStars 6 ай бұрын
I think he's blowing it out proportion because there has been gay protagonists in shounen before. Also, the theory of Gege insinuating them being gay falls apart considering they were admiring Waka Inoue's tits on Gojo's flip phone. If you want to subtly insinuate something, you gotta be consistent. And OP lyrics, really? Gege had no say in the lyrics of this song, considering it canon is wild to me. Only Gege has a say what is truly canon or not, not some songewirter or anime director.
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 6 ай бұрын
@@LittleSparklingStars Gege has said the anime expands on things he didn't have time to write in the manga, and he has been an active part during the writing of the anime. Junpei's backstory, for example, was something Gege really wanted to flesh out more, and said he was glad he got to do that for the anime. This wasn't a case of author selling the rights to some animator. Gege had given out a copy of JJK to his favourite animator even before jjk had hit big, saying that if there ever was going to be an anime, Gege wanted him to be the one who animates it. Gege has been fully involved and approved everything put into the anime.
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 6 ай бұрын
@@LittleSparklingStars As to tits... If you are *actively* hiding in the closet, you make sure to talk about tits to your buddies so they don't suspect anything. Especially in countries like Japan, where image is everything. Plus looking at an image of a pretty girl while ignoring Riko was a deliberate joke on her expense. Canonically, according to the author, Satoru Gojo is afraid of women. Suguru Geto was more desired by ladies because his personality was less abrasive than Gojo's. I did say I thought they didn't actually DO anything, right? Because that is how it comes off: As teens who might’ve explored things if their lives weren't in constant danger, and if Japan wasn't judgemental about gays. Compare to Naruto and Sasuke for example: Despite having a bit fan service sprinkled in for the yaoi fans (in the manga), it was always obvious they were interested in women and had their own female love interests. Gojo's and Geto's relationship seems to include genuine like, love and respect each other. They have never shown any interest in women around them and have no known history of girlfriends, not even Geto, who Canonically is more popular with the ladies. We have no confirmation on Gojo's or Geto's sexuality, or lack of thereof. Arguing over individual interpretations is silly: Don't like this type of interpretation? Don't consume content that likes it.
@ShaudL
@ShaudL 7 ай бұрын
Something that a lot of people don’t think heavy into is that Sukuna speaks on not needing to be taught what love is; as he already knows. However, he believes he was the wrong one got the lesson. I think this was a meta way to say Gojo needed to understand what love is. He lost it and his understanding of it with Geto. Geto was Gojo’s heart, and he took it with him.
@malaxiabil1676
@malaxiabil1676 6 ай бұрын
"Stay curious" as a last phrase.....danm you asking your whole audience to become at least heterocurious, bold move
@ronbonbunny
@ronbonbunny Ай бұрын
its usually very rare for me to see a man defending/analysing a gay ship so much love to you!!!
@ApplePi3.1415
@ApplePi3.1415 6 ай бұрын
Very nicely written. I really liked how you presented the information. And the editing was immaculate
@Anantinfinit
@Anantinfinit 7 ай бұрын
One of the gojo canon theme song is "shame on me" by Avicii ,where the narrator of the song explains his obsession & toxic love for his lover. Both geto & gojo died during Christmas Eve aka the most romantic holiday in japan. One of gege recommended bl manga "the night beyond the tricornered window" has the same scene as the kfc break up incident. For, some reason gojo really gives me a little bit of the vibe of loras Tyrell from asoiaf ( both loras & gojo put renly & geto on pedestal and nobody can replace their place in their life or heart.) Yes, Megumi definitely fits the archetype of ' tragic Greek hero'.
@filthyizaya1547
@filthyizaya1547 3 ай бұрын
The Avicii one always seems to me like the most in-your-face hint you could possibly imagine.
@kkoolaidmanzz
@kkoolaidmanzz 6 ай бұрын
THEYRE TAKING OVER MY FEED ON EVERY SINGLE APP I CRY OVER THEM AT LEAST FOUR TIMES A DAY
@kazoo.0821
@kazoo.0821 9 күн бұрын
This is such a fire video essay, I'm literally getting that satisfied tingling feeling in my head, ITS SO GOOD
@patas4487
@patas4487 6 ай бұрын
the fact alone that the kfc scene was inspired by an actual bl breakup scene says it all
@katfulcoded
@katfulcoded 7 ай бұрын
The entire segment about theme is unironically some of the best content ive seen in a jjk video Also I find it ironic that the theme of interpretation is shown best through who is currently the most looked down on character due to surface level beliefs about him. Actually kinda funny.
@NecroCrafter
@NecroCrafter 6 ай бұрын
I want to add that Akari (Hidden Inventory ending) is Suguru pov. I am so sad since I read the lyrics from both songs, ages ago. Every day I found another sad aspect of their relationship and love, how deeply they care for each other even when they paths were so different. Gojo shaped his life as a teacher to not repeat the story again, give Megumi two friends because he did not wanted he ended alone like him. He took teen Geto's morals to heart and lived by it. They love each other maybe in ways they as kids did not understand. My heart ache every single time. Gege did in fact wrote a love story, love in so many shapes and layers just like irl.
@3TMANEISGUTS
@3TMANEISGUTS 6 ай бұрын
This is quite literally the best analysis of characters I've ever watched!!!💗
@stef2285
@stef2285 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video, and so glad you covered the cultural context! I personally believe theyre fruity but like its also so clear why gege would only keep it as subtext and up to interpretation. Also i have the same interpretation as you in that they do deeply love each other but were never able to he together.
@yulimartorrealba5851
@yulimartorrealba5851 6 ай бұрын
Why?
@LYN3Y_
@LYN3Y_ 6 ай бұрын
Also I love your explanation of thrm bro, like if you see them as just friends then that's fine but you literally CANNOT deny thst their soulmates, platonic or not, their just like that. HAPPY PRIDE MONTH!!!
@Pusheenowaaa
@Pusheenowaaa 3 ай бұрын
The way auto-generated subs change Gege to gaygay is hilarious
@baligong3592
@baligong3592 7 ай бұрын
"Domain Expansion: Infinite Backshots" - GayJoe "Domain Expansion: Filled Womb Profusion" -GayToe
@Iameepytired
@Iameepytired 6 ай бұрын
Gege shouldn’t have somewhat confirmed geto mpreg but at the same time, this is too funny 😭
@roroo
@roroo 6 ай бұрын
Um
@Emerald_Raven08
@Emerald_Raven08 4 ай бұрын
​@@Iameepytired he...what...?
@Iameepytired
@Iameepytired 4 ай бұрын
@@Emerald_Raven08 sadly I cannot send pictures here in yt so imma quote the 2 different times it was brought up (but feel free to google it if you’d like) 😭 “The nature of Geto’s cursed technique allows him to store curses in his stomach, which is very reminiscent of pregnancies and actually the reason why Toji’s worm mistook him for its mother. Papa Geto could also be Mama Geto under the right circumstances, haha” “Recently, I’ve been thinking that it is entirely possible that Geto Suguru could become impregnated with a curse in very odd circumstances because of how his cursed technique works. I decided this only applies to weaker curses which wouldn’t be very unreasonable for him to use!”
@DevilWillCry-bo6gl
@DevilWillCry-bo6gl 2 ай бұрын
@@Iameepytiredwhat is Gege onnnn 😭😭 that’s so funny omllll
@Ray_Fall
@Ray_Fall 6 ай бұрын
I think saying they’re just friends or in a gay relationship is equally shallow. I don’t see them having romantic feelings for each other in the common sense, but I don’t see them being just friends either. They’re passionate for each other, in a way that goes beyond just platonic or romantic. They are each other’s soulmates, with some bromance on the side.
@tadesman1998
@tadesman1998 7 ай бұрын
thank you for this video, i just never have the energy to debate this online but you just explained it so well, thank you so much
@deatricearanelabellagar1633
@deatricearanelabellagar1633 3 ай бұрын
Expected a fujoshi rant, but it was way more in-depth and eye opening than I ever expected. The deep dive into the Japanese love culture and how media and mangakas deals with LGBT content was such an unexpected but much needed commentary, that I thank you for broadening my world view... While watching JJK I did think they were soul mates and were lost without each other, more than just friends or even lovers. But with everything you presented especially the OST part, I will look at at them again when I rewatch JJK when s03 comes out just to break my heart even more knowing all this
@mensoree
@mensoree 7 ай бұрын
Theyre literally soulmates. I can see them being romantic, or platonic but either way no one will ever convince me that they are not soulmates.
@itsmespidysvessel6077
@itsmespidysvessel6077 7 ай бұрын
Dude, thank you for making this video.
@rinseyong5202
@rinseyong5202 6 ай бұрын
"...and there's only one thing that gets me through it all, and that's knowing that you're here beside me... In a platonic waayyyy????" "If it's platonic, it's REALLY intense."
@INC0GNIT0...
@INC0GNIT0... 16 күн бұрын
Gojo's censored last words to Geto seemingly mouth "I love you". Gojo defiantly has to be Bisexual considering he has all the evidence to love Geto (a man) and has said himself in a Juju short he's into bubbly positive girls (e.g. Miwa), he has also been stated he doesn't have a girlfriend because he wouldn't be loyal.
@aishsk2554
@aishsk2554 4 ай бұрын
i love your essay style or writing voice. it's giving they/them and im here for it OTL this may be my favourite video on the internet right now?? and not just because of what ur saying(even if ur right about all of it) but also bc of the perfect way you delivered it?
@bombomyu
@bombomyu 6 ай бұрын
You put this so well together, unlike other popular gay ships in shonen for example sasunaru, which is unintentionally and accidentally kinda gay but none of the characters are aware because they might not meant to be written that way (thats why there are jokes about how shonen authors suck at writing straight romance but unintentionally wrote the best gay love story). On the other hand, satosugu though... it's intentional, not in a queerbaiting way, but a vital part to the plot and gojo's character. Also especially I'm sure gojo himself is very much aware of what he's feeling, he's intentionally written like that. I really agree with 11:11 because it's also my headcanon it's really fitting to the situation and that's what makes satosugu so complex and more painful. Tragic indeed. I feel like, dare I say, even though there are other romance subplots in jjk, but if we take satosugu context as romance, it's is the deepest one(?), more refined and explored, albeit vaguely, well because gojo and geto are very impactful in the story. I may be a shipper but I am still healthy enough (lol) to differentiate something that is explicitly canon, subtext, or headcanon. Sometimes some people tend to overanalyze. Thank you for the video, I love this! I'm glad I found this on reddit, I like that you're trying to be as objective as possible.
@HopefullyMusic23
@HopefullyMusic23 7 ай бұрын
Happy Pride month fantastic video as always dude!
@memelordkai6829
@memelordkai6829 7 ай бұрын
7:21 is likely incorrect. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think a voice actor said in an interview that the English translation of Gojo’s last words to Geto was a three word phrase. That probably implies it was ‘I love you’. The JJK0 light novel also describes it as ‘Such embarrassing words, never said before even when they were students.’ The original Japanese that’s translated as ‘embarrassing’ roughly means ‘makes you self-conscious’.
@minismallists
@minismallists 6 ай бұрын
I thought it was "I love you" cause I read gojo's lips
@Iameepytired
@Iameepytired 6 ай бұрын
@@minismallistsplus something that the English va for geto said (although purposely phrased to be vague) is really making me think that’s the case
@syakiraalessandra7447
@syakiraalessandra7447 6 ай бұрын
​@@minismallists gege said that the words have been said by gojo before in jjk 0, he never said "I love you"
@syakiraalessandra7447
@syakiraalessandra7447 6 ай бұрын
It's 3 words with a comma in the middle, like "_ _, _"
@syakiraalessandra7447
@syakiraalessandra7447 6 ай бұрын
3 worded sentences gojo have said including: "you'll be lonely", "come on in", " just be careful ", "that's about it", " you did it", "those old fools" "how's it going" "we'll meet again" honorary mention: he said "welcome home". The only 2 worded sentence he said, I think his last words to suguru were " welcome home, suguru" or "we'll reunite, right?" Idk though
@maddykun7852
@maddykun7852 Ай бұрын
I absolutely LOVE that you brought up Steven Universe because it getting canceled over a wedding was tragic
@alanfletes1427
@alanfletes1427 14 күн бұрын
Gege plotted so hard on the gay subtext that he dried out of.creativity and fumbled the end
@KatoViegas
@KatoViegas 6 ай бұрын
I see jjk as like the most homo manga I’ve ever read. There are so many gay scenes you can say, and so many different characters that people have gay ships with. To list a few I wouldn’t mind if they were cannon and would actually support are, satosugu, Itafushi, and nobamaki. They all have their scenes that make it actually have sense to it. Especially satosugu. This whole video proved it pretty much cannon. But thing like Itafushi, which have little things that they do for eachother, and how megumi could even tell yuji was feeling down at the exchange event? He asked if he was ok cause he cares. Yes a friend can do that too, but I just see it differently.
@eyegoat33
@eyegoat33 6 ай бұрын
Bro why did this video make me cry 😭
@emma_nutella58
@emma_nutella58 6 ай бұрын
All I can say is that they both really do love each other whether it he gay or not is up to us
@DanS044
@DanS044 9 күн бұрын
As an essay, this video is excellent And of course it’s easier to describe and argue for something that does exist
@ishitok-136
@ishitok-136 Ай бұрын
This essay ate me up so hard- I loved it tysm for making this
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