James O'Brien meets Baroness Sayeeda Warsi

Lawyer, businesswoman, campaigner and the first female Muslim UK cabinet minister. Baroness Warsi has broken glass ceilings throughout her career and tirelessly campaigned against Islamophobia within both society and the Conservative party. She joins James to discuss why she believes she's in a toxic relationship with the Conservative party and which cabinet minister is to blame for taking the party away from its conservative values and turning it towards the far-right.
Sayeeda hosts a brand-new podcast with comedian, David Baddiel. A Muslim & A Jew Go There. It's available to listen on all podcast platforms: linktr.ee/amuslimandajewgothere
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[@kopperbird6665]

It’s funny her saying the Sunak should focus on his principles. She’s assumed that he has some.

[@BigHenFor]

He has priorities, and those are the roots of his problems. Likewise, we need to take a long hard look at our priorities, because that the roots of our problems. And if people like Rishi Sunak are a problem we don't want, then we've got to change our priorities.

[@delatroy]

@@BigHenForonly if reprioritisation empowers the implementation of different policy

[@CEO786]

Lol

[@carlomariaromano4320]

His principle is to follow the money and pursue power.

[@MaxMisterC]

Sunak has plenty of principles....! ....But if you don't like them, well, he always has others...

[@flossiehoward7615]

I am left of centre in my politics but i have always admired and respected Sayeeda Warsi - a very articulate, intelligent and most importantly compassionate politician.

[@fktygglbtchbtch1384]

It DOES'NT matter at the end does it. You are set in your place. I mean, she can be fcking Goddess and you're probably still going to fck things up just because

[@Dodgydrains]

There is not much difference between being slightly left of centre and slightly right of centre. The only difference seems to be the rhetoric and not much difference actually in policies.

[@zhillaburns1160]

Pity she is a tory.

[@mjwilliamsb2676]

@flossiehoward - same as Anna Soubrey, she was a tory but also principled, sensible and compassionate. I rather wished the more sensible tories would separate themselves out and form a separate party, maybe with some centre left folk like Chris Bryant, because I don't vote Tory, but I'd vote for a party full of people like these two.

[@fang_xianfu]

​​@@mjwilliamsb2676 make sure you vote for proportional representation if you get the chance, and maybe you'll get your wish!

[@johnrussell3961]

She hasn’t changed. The Party has!

[@pashaj92]

Wow that's profound.. Especially in a time when we bounce opinions around and not thoughts and ideas. Powerful people don't want the underclass to think.

[@pashaj92]

@@quenky1 which is fantastic.

[@pashaj92]

@quenky1 what does Shariah mean in your mind?

[@pashaj92]

@quenky1 Can you send me the veils verse, I think that I may have missed it.

[@pashaj92]

@@quenky1 veil?

[@knockshinnoch1950]

Terrific interview. Sayeeda Warsi is an imposing political figure- principled empathic inclusive and bags of common sense. If more Tories were like her then that party would be a very different beast. She doesn't pull any punches when it comes to Michael Gove, an odious, destructive toxic creature.

[@johnsmith1474]

How can it be terrific when nothing is said here?

[@fang_xianfu]

​@@johnsmith1474 I'm not sure what you expected but there was a lot of content there if you wanted to see it.

[@clivet3252]

Imposing political figure? She was on Steph's Packed Lunch. The coalition government she was part of was perfect was it? She tells you things you want to here and you lap it up.

[@clivet3252]

​@@johnsmith1474because they're taken in by her Tory bashing routine, even though she's a Tory.

[@barnaclefelching4079]

​@@clivet3252giving that tories are polling at record levels of mediocrity, it seems a fair few tory voters agree with her. She has consistently stood by her principles, which is pretty amazing, she is a normal thoughtful reasonable person, which is really weird and dangerous

[@cpm1531]

When I hear/see politicians talk and act in this manner, it makes me question how did we end up with such an incompetent government. These are the people we need in charge

[@TheJohnpandy]

Fear.

[@zerowilde]

USA. Rhetoric, Propaganda. Fear and manufactred fear.

[@JS-vf5gn]

The first Tory I’ve heard makes sense in a decade. Baroness Sayeeda 🇬🇧 desperately needs ya. 🙌🏾❤️

[@wavydavy9816]

I can't understand (or stomach) the minority members of the tory party who _don't_ call it out for what it is. Patel and Braverman are two examples of the worst offenders but there are many, many more who actually seem to relish the social, racial and religious division that their party promotes.

[@Tamarlane389]

You’d think so, but to understand that, you would have to understand the history of the Indian subcontinent and role of the British in it.

[@wavydavy9816]

@@Tamarlane389 Are you perhaps suggesting that the slightly more wholesome attitude expressed by the Baroness is something to do with her Pakistani (and hence Muslim?) decendants rather than the Indian/Hindu background of Patel and braverman, and the prevalent attitudes towards social class and mobility in that part of the world?🤷‍♂

[@TheOne-yq6qk]

@@wavydavy9816Yes, Priti was worse than a skinhead.

[@Tamarlane389]

@@wavydavy9816 Patel and Braverman were the subject of my point. They exemplify the Hindu right who have a long history (going back centuries in India) of aligning themselves with whomever is in power. Survivalists. Add to that their close ties with both Israel and India’s RSS, both of whom are fascistic, anti-Islamic regimes. It therefore seems likely (particularly with Braverman’s rhetoric), that they are leveraging the abundant Islamophobia in the ether for their own political gain. Similarly, their unconditional support for Israel (even without mandate in the case of Patel), is the other dimension of the above point - pandering for personal gain.

[@mjwilliamsb2676]

​@@Tamarlane389Braverman had a Hindu mother, but a Christian father - she herself is a Buddhist.

[@taichi500]

What an enlightening interview, and an incredible woman.

[@PLl-jr8xi]

She's only there because Cameron needed a Muslim and a women and she helped both categories.

[@jeffsimon9594]

Exactly, as in 'not credible'

[@fathimachaudhri9757]

​@@PLl-jr8xiCameron wouldn't have offered her the job if she hadn't the credentials for it

[@pashaj92]

@PLl-jr8xi if she didn't have the integrity and wasn't able to articulate her argument whilst being acutely politically aware, Cameron who is very keen to protect his back would never have taken her on. There are two million Muslim women in the UK approximately, do you think he would have plucked one at random. Perhaps your opinion would have been better if it hadn't been given wings. My hope for you and myself is that we come back to this platform more educated than we are now. Remember staying silent allows the ears to engage and thereby allows the brain to do it's job.

[@PLl-jr8xi]

​@@pashaj92get a grip.. stop waisting your time writing paragraphs written in clichés.. Educate your self on things that matter. Not these idiots. My statement is correct.

[@user-sk9zf2kx3q]

Great woman great politician. But to be honest wrong party .

[@Moonwalker379]

All the better to affect change from within. I'm no fan of the Tories but this incredible woman is well placed to change the traditions of an entitled clique.

[@user-em3vl6li5w]

She is an incredible woman, but she has being talking about Islamophobia in the Conservative for years, it’s got worse. I wish her well though.

[@km99999]

She should first Asian p.m. other than sunak.!

[@bobjary9382]

I think she would be an asset to any party but I am so grateful she is there to comment on the likes of Patel and Braverman when they spew their hatred

[@fibergoddess1]

As a Black American, I found this to be a fascinating, informative interview.

[@husnachowdhury7770]

What an amazing interview and so reminiscent of how we all felt and grew up in this country .

[@unprofessionallyamateur6354]

With so much discourse being online and extreme it’s so refreshing to see there’s still reasonable conservatives you can break bread with

[@ReaperMan1010]

With the world as it is, I forget that not all Conservatives are heartless monsters. While I might disagree with her politically, I have a lot of respect for Baroness Warsi. If more Conservatives were like her then politics as a whole would be a better place.

[@dameonwalker8994]

Thank you. Baroness Warsi is the person i've been waiting to hear from re. the latest scandal. It's astounding that other media companies have not been tripping over themselves to interview her.

[@amcc5887]

It's because she's not a hardline torie, that's why, and the right wing TV and print media didn't or don't wana to give her a platform, but will give johnson,mogg,gove,etc etc all the media exposure in the world 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@liamhumphreys6695]

Sayeeda Warsi is in so many ways intelligent, principled and courageous. Yet she seems surprised by the tories? Yes they have become more right wing but in my political lifetime they’ve demonstrated little to suggest they care a jot about anyone but themselves. Given her obvious qualities strange that she missed that.

[@StanleyKubick1]

what is your political lifetime, how do you define it?

[@clivet3252]

How on earth have they become more right wing?

[@clivet3252]

If she's so courageous then why didn't she speak out earlier instead of accepting a job in Cameron's government? The same Cameron who now holds a senior position in this government.

[@sufmeister786]

@@clivet3252did you even bother to listen to the whole interview? You can’t change anything from the outside but obviously no logical understanding for some people.

[@clivet3252]

@@sufmeister786 no, of course I didn't listen. What has she changed from the inside then? The Lib Dems used the same excuse and the same applies to them.

[@tonytcook]

Sayeeda and James - what a smashing interview from you both. Perhaps the Tory persona is so tarnished by the mass of morons in the party but Sayeeda does not seen to fit! She is a wonderful individual full of empathy and intelligence. The country needs many more like her. What a gem......

[@johncook691]

Our country needs more people like Sayeeda

[@maralynmitchell8261]

Winning On and On and On !!

[@michaelryan2562]

In a different political party.imo

[@maralynmitchell8261]

This lady is a very Privileged one , Titled ,Married to a Lord ,she Believes in the Conservatives who have brought their Party her Party down. And sold this Country Out 😮.Almost .!come on REFORM.

[@jamesyoung9455]

Well, did it again; nuanced, articulate, rooted in lived experience ... brilliant! Thank you, both of you!

[@SBSlade]

If all Tories were similar to her I think this country might have half a chance... Can't help thinking she's in the wrong party?

[@clivet3252]

The majority of politicians are similar to her. She was in Cameron's government. We need to get rid of the likes of her.

[@jameswingad3212]

What homophobes?

[@Tom_murray89]

Sayeeda warsi and Rory Stuart are 2 of the most decent politicians. The Tory party now doesn’t have people like them in their party. They would be more welcome by Labour in my view

[@clivet3252]

They were both in the coalition government.

[@ppetal1]

When you look at the way this Labour bureaucracy have behaved this century, particularly towards Corbyn and it's membership, it's easy to see how a bright and intelligent person would be appalled by them.

[@yetidodger6650]

Both voted for austerity.

[@DaveLongcock]

Yeah, the Labour party needs more crony capitalists who hate the poor.

[@michaelmay7116]

I'm no Conservative, but thus oman is wonderful . Brilliant interview. We need more like her urgently.

[@user-lr6qi1yy2l]

Brilliant interview, I’ve always admired Sayeeda Warsi even though I’m not a conservative supporter

[@rhettdunmore]

i say this as a lifelong labour voter.......i love her lady warsi is an icon

[@Edward-cv2gw]

Do you know why that is ? It's because there's not a right wing bone in her body. Lots of MPs just join w,e party they think will promote them as quickly as possible,regardless of its politics. Warsi is left wing but understood circa Cameron era that the Tories were in the ascendancy, so I know,I'll join them. Its not difficult.

[@mjwilliamsb2676]

@@Edward-cv2gw Your comment is very revealing - it says far more about you than it does about Warsi, as what we say often does.

[@Edward-cv2gw]

​@mjwilliamsb2676 Well how else would you explain someone with no identifiable conservative values joining a right of centre party, other than for political expediency?

[@mjwilliamsb2676]

@@Edward-cv2gw That's your perception, that Warsi has no perceptible conservative values, and you've made your judgement based on that. Some conservatives, back in the day especially, were not as the 'conservatives' appear today, the hard, right wing, controlling and often cruel views they express these days. I would argue the current iteration of the conservatives are not true conservatives at all, they have devolved to something far worse.... And Warsi as a person does not fit with the image you paint of wanting only to serve herself and climb the ranks.... but that just means I see something you don't, because we're different people, that's all.

[@zerowilde]

Dont be fooled. Check what she voted against. Rory stewart effect. He seemed nice, but appealed against legistations that would have helped the people.

[@kevind26]

Haven't read every single comment but this seems to be the most intelligent, non-toxic KZbin comments section I've ever come across! Well done to you all! I thought, what a great interview! I wonder what garbage or abuse is being spouted below... and I haven't found any! How refreshing!!

[@themills23]

Imagine if all tories were like her.... Always a compassionate, articulate lady with the continual weight of political party disappointment on her ahoulders.

[@DaveLongcock]

Compassionate to who?

[@claranordblom8968]

This lady is amazing!

[@seriousoldman8997]

In a week of foaming madness being pushed to me on all sides , Baroness Varsi just gives off such calming vibes. This has cheered me up.

[@katpuss6564]

I adore Sayeed Warsi, but do not agree that she should automatically be a CONSERVATIVE just because she is a successful entrepreneur, who works hard, and is focussed on families. These are the exact values of the SOCIALISTS.....

[@pak_number1481]

Wow a decent honest tory politician 👏 👏

[@Kit-yv7ob]

If she was decent and honest, she wouldnt be a Tory would she?

[@minimalist279]

Don't be fooled

[@Philljag]

@@Kit-yv7ob why wouldn’t she? They aren’t all the same?

[@mysterymaverick1982]

Bet you never thought you'd say those things in the same sentence 😂

[@moxleyproductions]

Tribalism is part of the problem, yes she’s a Tory, but a Tory party that has a nuanced non ideological view of the world would be infinitely better then the current group of half brained reactionaries running the party.

[@xrayfish2020]

Thank you Baroneess and James an excellent interview

[@adeofbass]

The party of Thatcher, Tebbitt etc. They've always been horrible

[@TonThonFraisdEau]

Racism was the official ideology of the British Empire that some are trying to revive ...

[@seanpatrick1243]

Agreed, the “Conservative Values” that Baroness Warsi pines for boil down to Corporate Socialism and corruption.

[@TheDom277]

True. But not as 🥜 as they are currently. Time out in the shadow will help them.

[@bellywood7688]

​@@TheDom277 tories before and after brexit

[@TheDom277]

@@bellywood7688 Before austerity as well.

[@Kas-kw4xf]

The most enlightening 1hr of my day. Spent a lot of it tearing up (relating to her experiences growing up and having to have two identities just trying to be accepted by the outside world of work colleagues, etc..). Thank you.

[@user-ol3xe5fz4u]

really respect her..speaking as an old man who remembers Tories who were true centreists!!!!

[@Ghengiskhansmum]

Yes centrist uselessness waiting to turn stale and the reason we now have populism breeding like fungi in the mould.

[@paulheydarian1281]

The MOST important thing she said was insisting on having *Independent Means* unrelated to any income derived from a political position. This is Truly Critical.

[@amcc5887]

Now that is a proper politician ,tories take note,,,

[@VegabondSam]

Amazing women. Empathetic, intelligent and not a black-white thinker…

[@minimalist279]

Please don"t be amazed...she was/ is a politician. Their second career choice is performance art.

[@fathimachaudhri9757]

​@@minimalist279She's sincere as far as I'm concerned

[@minimalist279]

@@fathimachaudhri9757 there were a few red flags that suggest otherwise...

[@HieronymousCheese]

Intelligent, articulate and principled woman. We need more like her. Also, I've always secretly fancied her (out of my league, I think, LOL).

[@lumpylumpylumpy]

I dont know why but I needed this interview, in the midst of the heaviness of the news atm. Thank you Sayeeda.

[@Jamal-jv8yc]

There are not enough people like sayeeda. Thanks for highlighting her life and career.

[@kevindakin3847]

Brilliant interview! Has been a pleasure to spend the last hour in company with you two. More of this sane politic’s please.

[@kennethrollo7891]

If the Conservative party is no longer the Conservative, then those still in it need to pull it back but if not you'll go down with that sinking ship with mogg at the wheel and farage whispering in his ear sweet nothings.

[@davidmchale5890]

I am always a Labour supporter and I can’t stand the Tory party but if there was more politicians like this wonderful lady i might consider changing my mind

[@Dynasty1818]

You should change your mind anyway. Labour have ZERO plan, ZERO chance of improving things. People are voting them to get rid of the Tories. Voting for a party without even thinking is moronic.

[@davidmchale5890]

And who voted these morns in in the first place

[@youcangetholdofjules]

What an engaging person

[@ansumanakassama]

Amazing interview this woman is great much respect to her

[@Twinmumma]

A brilliant watch, I thoroughly enjoyed learning about her more and her stance on politics as an Asian Muslim… Additionally want to add James great questioning and directioning - double win!

[@Followthewhiterabbit123]

She should have been PM.

[@Colin_Fasoli]

Would have had to have been an MP first

[@tayibahussain]

Would love Corbyn ❤️

[@bobby9791]

I almost spat my morning coffee out in the realisation there is a half decent Tory.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Those were the days.

[@serpentinefire77]

A superb interview with a principled and a superb woman.

[@alexgath3217]

Fantastic interview with a remarkable politician in times of limited integrity and competency in Westminster.

[@Rs-fx1bt]

Not a conservative voter never have been and never will be. But what a decent,honest and professional politian baroness warsi is. At least i can respect her. Seems that all the sensible people have been purged and driven out of the party by the likes of johnson,truss etc.

[@gelmalkin7685]

I keep thinking that FD can’t get any better but Mr J O’B this is a masterpiece 👌 what an incredibly inspirational woman. This needs to go further than YT, I’d go as far as to say Mr Sunak could learn a lot from this superb interview 👊🙌

[@headgirlblues]

There is no more threatening group to abusers than those they abuse. There are very few politicians I believe have a genuine, deep-seated concern for the rest of us and a whole. Sayeeda Warsi is one of them.

[@clivet3252]

She isn't

[@MJB0110]

I really enjoyed this interview. So much of the comments Sayeeda makes resonated with me, a third generation Moslem born in the UK (now 60), with 3 kids (all uni grads) and grandkids born here. I am exceptionally grateful to my amazing country who allowed my family to flourish, all 4 of my siblings going to university from state schools and becoming successful medical professionals, mainly due to the hard work and sacrifice of our parents. But despite success, both in business and work, and always having natural and instinctive conservative family values, we could never bring ourselves to vote Conservative for many of the reasons highlighted by Sayeeda. I now fear for my children & grandchildren being brought up in a gaslit Islamophobic environment that we seem destined to be lurching towards. I sincerely hope I’ve got this wrong.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Moslems may be conservative, but it is against their religion to be Conservatives.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

This lady is one of the best examples of Britishness 💪.

[@ordohereticus3427]

Lol.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

@@ordohereticus3427 Why lol? You even British, Ordohereticus?

[@andrewrobinson2565]

@@user-mw9bd2ey6s Same question ❓⁉️ (Shitoryu...is that your real name 🤔? My sympathies, if so. 😘)

[@andrewrobinson2565]

@@user-mw9bd2ey6s Why lol, Mr. Gojuryu? Are you Japanese? (Great first name by the way - I can see why you present as a "user" 😳).

[@Lordie32]

Wow I love her! I’ve been feeling a lot of negativity towards Conservatives but to see there are amazing people fighting for community and compassion gives me a slight glimmer of hope. Massive love to Sayeed Warsi! Great interview James.

[@yamadakenji4143]

The most mystifying with Warsi for me is why she is still a Tory. Is it masochism or is there an evil person inside her trying to get out?

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

Like all Yorkshire lasses she says as she sees

[@AllScarsHealTarotcardreader]

She stated in the beginning, she has Tory values. What muppets are “running “ the country at the moment probably aren’t the best advertisers for Tories,

[@keanusolan2844]

Or she believes rather desperately that the party can and will return to the principles that drew her towards it.

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

More than likely

[@tayibahussain]

I no longer trust any politicans Labour is also horrifying

[@michaelwardle4619]

I'm not conservative but she is very persuasive

[@donaldskinner-reid8998]

Brilliant. She gives me hope for the future.

[@paulaabdul3698]

Brilliant lady

[@mdkram]

I'm a hard leftist but I have high respect for Baroness Warsi.

[@norarafferty4702]

Really? Why?

[@mdkram]

​​​@@norarafferty4702Because she comes across as genuine and honest. Her convictions seem morally based. Did you listen to the entire interview?

[@clivet3252]

​@@mdkramwhat if she's neither?

[@tonyhague7805]

You can't not respect her otherwise you are right wing 😂😂😂

[@mdkram]

@@clivet3252 You're certainly entitled to your own opinion.

[@davecap2641]

Excellent interview

[@atifarohman3342]

And yet you're still a Tory 🤨

[@Philljag]

Some of them want to make a difference maybe?

[@DennisMoore664]

It's one thing to be Muslim or person of color that has conservative ideology, but to be a Tory - takes a certain kind of self-loathing and/or cognitive denial to do that.

[@stephenmurray2851]

​@@DennisMoore664same as being white and in the labour party. Imagine working for your own peoples destruction

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

Being a Tory isn't a bad thing. Personally, I don't brand myself Labour, because I do personally want to be independent and work hard, see a thriving and prosperous community. I'm not saying that Labour votes are my opposite! But what the current Tory represents is everything but what I have mentioned. Sad thing is - not sure if Labour has some values as well. Currently, the party seems to be muted, dormant, not knowing what they want to be/

[@TheDom277]

Because people want to change the bad things if they can… Isn’t that obvious?

[@tobywhitehead7488]

A lot of the values Warsi mentions have always been Labour values too. The only difference between the two sides is empathy.

[@paulheydarian1281]

The ONLY difference? 🤔

[@clivet3252]

Labour's empathy is fake. They treat people on benefits and immigrants worse than the Tories. And the way they treated Jeremy Corbyn was disgusting.

[@mineepiccash1493]

Empathy disappears once you’re wealthy. Which this person is. Values of the Tory party is wealth. Simple.

[@clivet3252]

My comment has gone.

[@user-em3vl6li5w]

I once met her at a book signing in Bradford, she was such an impressive Speaker. I was so impressed by her. She really is charming. But I couldn’t then, and don’t understand why she was a Conservative, especially with Johnson being P.M when he was then. The argument was about her values, and better within than outside. But s now she is actively stating that this isn’t really the Tory Party anymore. How can she align herself to the present Tory Party. Sometimes we need to have a rethink.

[@rcla77771]

THIS

[@clivet3252]

She was in Cameron's government and Cameron is now the foreign secretary in this government. She's talking out of her backside.

[@mineepiccash1493]

She’s a Tory because of wealth.

[@TheJohnpandy]

The way to the top may be more accessible in the Tory party?

[@clivet3252]

@@TheJohnpandy she's got nowhere near the top and she never will. Do you use that reasoning for Trump?

[@jamesbest9038]

I love how british journalists conduct interviews.

[@funkibunz4420]

I've been waiting for this one and it didn't disappoint such a fantastic interview I absolutely adore Baroness Warsi.

[@dopameems]

Amazing woman wow

[@poshvibes4021]

I really dislike that Sayeeda does not make clear the distinction that this idea of boys being better than girls is purely a Pakistani cultural trait, which is polar opposite to the Muslim position that girls are a blessing on the household.

[@fathimachaudhri9757]

That sort of thinking is prevalent all over the subcontinent not just Pakistan

[@poshvibes4021]

@fathimachaudhri9757 very true. I think it is more a Hindu legacy which has seeped into the wider South Asian psyche.

[@f.m4662]

It’s was a cultural belief, it most certainly is NOT a religious one.

[@silverstarlight9395]

As per the Qur'an, women can't become lawyers or judges.

[@poshvibes4021]

@silverstarlight9395 not sure what that has to do with the subject at hand? Despite there being a difference in opinion over this with the scholars, taking it as gospel, what does that have to do with subject being discussed?

[@thegeneral123]

What an incredibly strong and marvellous person. Shame she's a Conservative. I wonder how much longer she'll remain attached to that disgusting party?

[@suecole7338]

Great interview.

[@johnwebster5005]

You can do business with sensible people like Warsi...

[@user-zj9jg7lc1s]

James O Brian you're a Legend !!!

[@kublaikhan2020]

Thoroughly enjoyed this interview, what a woman

[@davidhinchliffe3506]

I class myself as democratic socialist. But Baroness Warsi is so down to earth, a person with morals, very plain speaker and someone i love to sit and listen to. Lovely lady.

[@yusufmoore]

I no longer consider myself a tory but Respect to Baroness Warsi, so glad that there are still people who talk sense, can but give a glimmer of hope for the future.

[@djc69006]

Warsi is the epitome of intellectual honesty and human decency. It's sad she appears to be the rare exception rather than the rule. Great interview -- I've just subscribed to the podcast.

[@davidatkinson5858]

Lol 😂what utter bullshittery 😂

[@kreepykraut8153]

What a brilliant interview! Thanks a bundle!

[@sandyellis28]

Great interview & brilliant that Warsi has the courage and freedom to share her insight in this way. We’re quite mature now in seeing thru the political & media agenda & know this Govt has been looking for a hook - & working towards creating one - for some time. If it came on the back of a terrorist incident they may well have succeeded. The fact that they’re loading this at a time when thousands of innocent civilians, predominantly Muslim, are being killed & starved in Gaza, is deeply disturbing & offensive. It’s heartless, obvious, against all our values and will backfire on them. To then try and close down protests or vilify people who march for them & call for ceasefire & peaceful resolution is unforgivable. It won’t be forgotten here or around the world and is affecting our reputation. Cameron seems on right track at least, Sunak has no idea whatsoever on foreign affairs or ofc domestic or the most basics in politics.

[@khadijasuleman8053]

​@@quenky1misinterpreting the Qur'an are we? Typical

[@roadtohope]

Thank you for this interview

[@raecrue]

Fantastic

[@Ozahmed]

Sayeeda is such a lovely lady. Great achievements. The only puzzle is the unelected HoLs bit.

[@TheWorldsEnd66]

Baroness Warsi has always been a Conservative I’ve admired because she has always been sincere in her values. You don’t have to agree, to appreciate the person. However you can see there is scope for negotiation, not a closed door of extremist views. Labour do nothing to encourage these representatives with values, they too are closed to negotiation. Look at the top down heavy control in that Party. We need representatives with core values who represent their electorate. It’s time for some form of Proportional Representation to break the 2 party, establishment protecting, unethical foreign policy inertia.

[@ronyh5959]

Britain need more insightful politician like her. But unfortunately they got hateful creature like Suela and Prity.

[@MarkSiosal]

Get some heating for the studio James.😂

[@paulaabdul3698]

She almost convinced me to join conservatives

[@HENJAM48]

If she were my local member, I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

[@jeremygreenwood1021]

I wondered how she could be a Tory these days, but having pushed feminism in the Punjab, working in the present party must be child's play. I really hope she remains a warrior and wins. What an antidote to Islamophobia! Abandon words like Zionist and Islamist, thank you for that very useful clarification. 0.5 arrests for every 10,000 peace marchers! Fantastic.

[@ukqwerty999]

Because the met overlook the laws being broken

[@mohammediqbal123]

James thank you for this fascinating interview. I have followed Baroness Warsi since the start of her political journey and have great respect for her. I bought her book but never got around to reading it as KZbin and internet takes up all my time. This was great

[@TheHighlander78]

As a Scottish man and member of the SNP. Baroness Sayeeda Warsi is the only conservative who I like and find interesting and I probably would vote for to be Prime Minister lol she’s a inspiration for British Muslim women ❤

[@andrewkemish6861]

Shear joy at two of the most impressive political minds of our time analysing just how we have arrived at this place. In both opionions we see that the only answer is a liberalism and that the only thing we should all fight against in ignorance and extremist views.

[@englishstark6100]

A thousand trains are cancelled everyday in England alone could it be the 🐘

[@araja5277]

What a lovely interview, i always did admire this great woman

[@user-cw1bb3du2d]

Thoroughly enjoyed this podcast. Both guests were brilliant!

[@Cherrytune386]

Shes wasted as a Tory.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Our kids didn't speak French when they went to free state Kindergarten (Maternelle) at age 2.5 years old in France. One finished university, both are bilingual. Proud that we gave them that, sad that we didn't give them musicality, which is more difficult to make money out of 🤔.

[@haseebhassan8625]

She’s so inspirational:) admire her story - we need leadership like this

[@jezlawrence720]

Ok I am going to look up her podcast with David B that sounds incredible

[@clivet3252]

It sounds awful

[@swh5542]

Sayeeda makes so much sense and her honesty is apparent through her straight talk

[@mohammedmiah2728]

She’s incredible, well missed we need you back

[@annapapa1887]

Such a pleasant interview !

[@babelman1]

Never been a Tory, but she comes across as a decent person.Not like the corrupted lot in government now.