James O'Brien reflects on what should happen next with Brexit | LBC

James O'Brien reflects on what should happen as Brexit's 'idiocy' becomes clearer day by day.
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[@MrGezino1]

Let's start by having interviewers push followup questions that force politicians to confront the Brexit elephant rather than just moving on the the next question...

[@kanedNunable]

sadly LBC with ferrari and farage being on for so long helped cause this. we need to stop giving air time to these bullshitters.

[@richardlewis7498]

@@kanedNunable JOB has been on a long time moaning about for 6yrs bless him

[@whattheflyingfuck...]

the UK needs to grow real journalists first

[@ameliecarre4783]

@Richard Lewis There's absolutely nothing wrong with moaning if there's cause to moan.

[@davidhodgson3901]

I was astounded that Laura K did exactly that on Sunday.

[@ThomasKing19933]

I never imagined we could possibly have a government as bad as this.

[@danwoodguitars5008]

I could

[@nick1065]

Wait until Labour get in

[@markwelch3564]

@@nick1065 I can't wait! We'll start seeing the government actually solving problems 🙂

[@ThomasKing19933]

@@nick1065 how could labour possibly be any worse than the tories?

[@lestrem11]

You obviously weren’t alive during the last Labour government then?

[@Gideonsmythe]

I'm meeting with my MP in a few weeks. He's pro-Brexit. I can't wait to ask him "So what are the benefits of Brexit to me" before I list all of the problems it's causing me and those I know.

[@petelawless811]

Get a life

[@kanedNunable]

he will lie or evade the question.

[@nick1065]

All the problems it’s causing you? Honestly chap, you need help.

[@boxing.clever]

I can’t speak for everyone, but when I voted, it was based on improvements in the next 10-15 years. It amazes me that people think that a couple of years in (combined with a once in a lifetime pandemic), is enough to gauge the success or failure of Brexit. It takes so much time to change agreements/legislation/markets, we can’t just say it has been a disaster because things haven’t improved at the snap of a finger 🤦🏻‍♂️ Things weren’t exactly working brilliantly in the EU, hence why multiple other nations are considering an exit themselves. This is just a solution that is being attempted. Maybe it WILL fail, but I’d rather take action that fails, knowing I tried, than sit idly by and watch things stagnate. The pound has been weak for years. Let’s re-evaluate in about 2032, when we can actually be somewhat accurate in our assessment. I think there may be some surprised people…..

[@boxing.clever]

@Privileged Whyte Knight Spot on. Seems people have forgotten the ability to use comparison. Like you say, hardly like there’s a shining light of success anywhere else 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@johnfrancis757]

We need more people in government prepared to stand up and say Brexit has been a disaster, we need those people who sold Brexit to be held to account and then we need to try and get back into the EU.

[@kanedNunable]

so we rely on the tories to have some morals? they wont until they see the benefit to themselves.

[@richardlewis7498]

the Eu wont let you back in

[@teddypicker8799]

Yep EU don't want us now and it would be political suicide for Labour to pledge another referendum

[@JaapVanderHorst]

@@richardlewis7498 Have they even asked yet, so how would you know? They could probably get into the singe market which would solve a lot of problems already.

[@allip4226]

@Privileged Whyte Knight It was a dream compared to this nightmare, the far-right are just too blinded by hate and/or thick to realise it.

[@lizfuller400]

Agree with you. We do not want to have riots but it is time we rallied together. It is sad to me at 75, that my retirement years are not relaxing, but full of anger against the Tory government. I am a proud member of the Labour Party, but with retirement plus anxiety, due to nursing my lovely, precious daughter, through cancer. She died 18 mon months ago, I have been too nervy to attend the local Labour Party meetings. But will change because I am so angry at this government.

[@alkante2962]

So sorry to hear you lost your dear daughter. My deepest sincere condoléances. About the riots, the present governement and its policy might very well lead to it! Problem being, without organisation and specific goals, riots have never allowed to obtain anything.

[@charanjitsidhu4733]

@Liz Fuller • TRULY SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR DAUGHTER.MAY THE ALMIGHTY ALWAYS SHINE A BRIGHT LIGHT ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.😢

[@lestrem11]

You could always join the rest of your mates spitting at Tory mp’s.

[@slbe9721]

So so sorry for your loss.

[@wriggleroom1076]

Of course the big problem here is that Europe would be crazy to even think about letting us rejoin and start rocking the boat all over again. 🤔

[@tomsdaddy]

That's why any plan to rejoin should also go hand in hand with a process of Electoral And Constitutional Reform, so we can rejoin the Single Market straight away, and rejoin the EU proper when we're a grown-up democratic Country again.

[@lesleywillis6177]

Thank the Lord!

[@ameliecarre4783]

@@tomsdaddy So you get the advantages of the single market and none of the annoying stuff, exactly like you always wanted ? One foot in, one foot out, best of both world situation ? Nah. Personally I wouldn't even talk about a comeback unless you accept to abandon the sterling pound and join the eurozone. Yes, I know it's a totally different thing than the single market. But you'll need to show an unheard of amount of goodwill first. And greatly disregarding the preferences of your monarch-loving pseudo-independance-loving nationalists is a necessary start. (It's a gift in disguise, you get to not have Charles's head on the coins and a currency that tanks). And also you should be made to wait in line. For a while. Your candidacy will be considered after Moldova's. And maybe we should even prioritize Turkey after all, at the moment I'm not sure they're less respectable, and for all I know, they might be doing better economically.

[@rogerphelps9939]

@@ameliecarre4783 Sorry to disappoint you about Turkey but Turkish inflation is around 80% .

[@bigpoppa1234]

@@tomsdaddy I'm sure the EU is gagging to have Farage back as an MEP.

[@sswwooppee]

How are Tories allowed to stay in power after so thoroughly and publicly befouling themselves? Get rid of them already!

[@sswwooppee]

@Soul of a robot I’m not from your country. They control when and if there’s an election, correct?

[@rogerphelps9939]

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Unfortunately that requires a total Tory collapse. Tory MPs would much rather hang onto their fat pay packets for as long as possible.

[@g.p616]

How are they allowed to stay in power…..It’s called democracy. What’s your alternative!?

[@sswwooppee]

@@rogerphelps9939 Democracy? Nobody voted for any of the last three governments. Some democracy...

[@rogerphelps9939]

@@sswwooppee That's true. There really must be some rule changes.

[@WVislandia]

I have wondered whether Scotland leaving the Union and trying to re-join the EU might prove that it can be done, but who can wait that long? I feel that the Scottish people knew all along that this would happen with Brexit and that is why independence is the only way possible. Sad that so many people have been led down the path by a few wanting power and greater wealth.

[@ecaeas4439]

To me, whilst it is true that the voting demographics in Scotland were remain, what's to say its any different for areas of England that voted remain? London voted remain (although I find the idea of london going independent based on that fact hillarious), many cities in England voted remain. If you make an exception for Scotland, you Start to wonder about all the people that would want the same thing but are shafted by the reality of living in a country that voted slightly In favour of remain overall and therefore are viewed collectively as if they are the problem. There were far more remainers in England than there were in Scotland, but also far more brexiteers, because England is a much larger country. I don't know how we come to terms with that.

[@cliveog]

Yes, Scottish independence will hopefully be a catalyst for change in England. English progressives should embrace it.

[@czeslawpi]

Spain would never allow Scotland to join the EU. That would mean the Catalan region could break away. Forget it.

[@lestrem11]

Wake up Joke. The EU said NO years ago.

[@TheMixCurator]

@@lestrem11 That was 8 years ago, when the UK was part of the EU (which was a major factor in the no vote for Scottish Independence). Bit of stuff has happened since, wouldn't you agree?

[@PhilippaBeale]

Let us not forget the reason that the government supported Brexit was because those with offshore accounts would have to declare them.

[@chatham43]

....nonsense of course but you know that sadly...

[@Gideonsmythe]

@@chatham43 No, new EU Money Laundering directives brought in in 2020. Had Tory boys wetting themselves. While I've got your attention, in what way has Brexit improved your life?

[@joanmacleod9444]

James o’Brian is on the same wavelength as me . Wonderful analysis of major concerns of this country

[@lestrem11]

Yes a genius at work😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡

[@nick1065]

Yes…he’s got all the answers has James….

[@lestrem11]

@@nick1065 No answers, just doggerel. An embarrassing one thought journalist who is too lazy to suggest anything new or remotely interesting. Typical Socialist then…..🤡

[@nick1065]

Ever get the feeling you’re being gassed Joan?

[@gerardodwyer5908]

His analysis is definitely better than your spelling.

[@56postoffice]

I've run out of *"I told you so!"* meself. I'm just beyond angry.

[@fridajaspers6066]

I'm Dutch with 'settled status'. Been here since 1991. Shouting into a vacuum since 2016 when populism is rife is tiring. Being 'woke' however is not.

[@theycontroltheleftandtheri3705]

You being woke is very tiring for the people with an i-q over 85 though.

[@kanedNunable]

until everyone realises its been a huge con i dont see how we can still move forward. people need to realise they were lied to and fooled and get over it. then we can move on.

[@jasimmalik8078]

Pakistan left India, and never had a Prime Minister stay their full tenure.

[@japethstevens8473]

You can start with media interviewers insisting on real answers to Brexit-related questions, and not accepting the stock anodyne, cliched and mendacious responses.

[@alisstedman4858]

George Eustice is worried now about his job now. He might actually have to do something for his constitutes now. He has one of the poorest constitutes in the UK. We call him George Useless down here in Cornwall.

[@acrodave9287]

"If you put the Crown on a clown, the palace becomes a circus." = Contemporary British politics.

[@acrodave9287]

@D.A.R Yes, unfortunately. Point taken.

[@awtistiaeth4699]

@@acrodave9287 As a 'pro-indy' for us here in Wales, I thought the same as DAR but also thought, "Like it (with suitable modification of course)" lol. Diolch/Thanks!

[@DanA-pm2hl]

We just don't have the type of politic anymore on the right, where you admit a mistake and work to correct it. Appearances are everything

[@simoncullum5019]

And the appearance is awful

[@lestrem11]

Politicians don’t do this and never have. Grow up child.

[@JD-eq4dp]

@@lestrem11 Your point may be better received without the insult !

[@lestrem11]

@@JD-eq4dp Still accurate though and , as you may have guessed, I am not on here to mollycoddle children.

[@martinmcdonald4207]

Is it not illegal to lie to the voter about what they are been asked to vote on? They need to be named and shamed all those liars behind Brexit. This is the madness of a third country!

[@chatham43]

...not a third country...getting hysterical doesn't help anything.

[@davidlancaster4476]

WHAT DID THEY LIE ABOUT ?

[@mike747436]

Seriously? What didn’t they lie (mislead) about would be a better question.

[@davidlancaster4476]

@@mike747436 so please tell, what did they lie about.

[@ony583]

@@davidlancaster4476 The UK sends 350 million pounds per week to the European Union. This money would go back to the NHS. The UK would have control over its borders. EU forbids the UK from forming trade deals with other countries. Leaving the EU would allow the UK to form trade deals with the rest of the world. Just to name a few.

[@cpuuk]

Where's my unicorn- Brexit, you promised me a unicorn!

[@spy1309]

You go and pick it up in Paris ......and then pay the customs fees because .....non EU

[@slbe9721]

Educating the public on what a vote actually means to our country.

[@robuk3723]

..??

[@thegorgon7063]

@@robuk3723 some people voted for Brexit assuming that remain would win either as a protest vote or even as a laugh

[@harveybrown37]

Most people who voted to leave were old and retired. Many are already in their Great Brexit in the Sky

[@F15CEAGLE]

Maranatha.

[@Bowhuntingskills]

@@thegorgon7063 mind reader here

[@larrs8887]

Whilst I really want to rejoin the EU Brexit has highlighted many core issues in the U.K. and these need to be addressed. Media accountability, trust, respect for facts and a new electoral system that is fair, proportional and accountable. The U.K. also needs to put measures and safe guards in place for future referendums as well. No mob rule, use them to engage with the public and build trust in politics so the government can do what is best for the county. Many of the political systems needs to be modernised and the public need to see a plan that can actually improve the county. We must start with the truth and go from there, pretty basic I would say.

[@richardlewis7498]

hmm put measures and safegaurds into referendrums to make sure the correct result eh sounds very EU to me 🤣🤣🤣

[@col.hertford9855]

You pretty much identified a lot, not all, the issues that gave us Brexit. Also it’s the same issues that the right wing are using throughout the world. Let’s hope the push back in the USA and Brazil is the start of something positive. (And yes, I know the dems are not left wing, but they some elements now are).

[@markwelch3564]

@@richardlewis7498 well, did _you_ get the Brexit you voted for?

[@larrs8887]

@@richardlewis7498 it’s a two way street imagine if the question was the reverse. Basically whatever the question somethings are just too complicated to be left to binary yes or no for the general public to decide. Changes to society on a massive scale need be informed and carefully decided upon. We usually left the government do that as that is it’s function, sadly the weak political infrastructure in this country is the cause of many issues we now face. I would start with electoral reform and go from there. The EU at least uses proportional representation in its parliament which is more than what we get here, most other democracies around the world use PR of some form. To be honest if leaving the EU was actually a real benefit for the county and was proven to be so then fair enough, it isn’t and everyone is getting hurt by it in some way.

[@SteveEvansFilms]

Well said, totally agree. Debates for things like this must be completely balanced.

[@penshaw2]

No - the farmers just like the fishermen have self-destructed their own industry and themselves by voting for Brexit and/or Tory to introduce their hard Brexit. Sadly they also torpedoed so many innocent people as well who are having their lives destroyed against their will and because of others unlike the farmers and fishermen etc.

[@jamieleishman2592]

What would you say to the 11,000 Dutch farms being forced to close down and 17,000 farms having to make radical changes to operate. Seems the EU agricultural policy is far more destructive.

[@yedsig9764]

Hi James we need to keep this debate day and night until is done

[@middleman9183]

that'll be tedious

[@charliemaguire2210]

@@middleman9183 yeh get over it.

[@Danny-is5if]

Its been 6 years now. Please get help.

[@glynmatthews678]

No one has done more to reflect the truth since 2016 than this Man ....

[@benmadill4848]

Don't all the greatest comedies inevitably turn tragic in the end?

[@anthonywilson8998]

I said when Truss proved how totally incompetent She is ,that we need to investigate all the other areas she has been involved in,just like the Police when criminals have been serving. Now we have farmers proving a sell out on the Aussie and NZ. deals.

[@mj8325]

How bad has it got to get before the penny drops

[@londonlad5701]

As a lifelong conservative voter, I’ve already decided to vote labour at the next GE… but I really wish a party would run based on getting us back into Europe… Brexit is a major reason we are performing worse economically then other G20 countries… . Maybe we all need to go to Scotland.

[@markwelch3564]

Both Labour and the LibDems are proposing closer alignment and rebuilding relations if they are government, but it's going to take more than one term of Parliament, no matter who is governing. We need to prepare long term plans if rejoin is going to happen

[@markwelch3564]

@@Carl-hs420a so where are these fresh ideas for a different Brexit?

[@col.hertford9855]

@@Carl-hs420a there is no better brexit.

[@steveosborne2297]

Whilst I appreciate what you’re saying to believe there’s any quick return to the EU is relying on more unicorns . It really doesn’t matter what this government or the next government say it depends on 27 members of the EU saying yes will have you back . That will not happen in the near future nor even joining the single market or customs union

[@robinmcarthur3287]

Part of the problem if you vote for a party which hasn't started talking about re-joining the EU.

[@paullacey2999]

The Brexit dividend that never stops🤣

[@richardlewis7498]

certainly helped put food on JOB 's table for 6yrs

[@erlinggaratun6726]

First of all, you'll have to get clarity on what kind of rejoining you want with the EU. You're never getting back the sweet deal you had as a member of the EU, and that was sweetened even more by Cameron's wasted reneg on the deal. You have to realize you can make hardly any demands. I think Starmer realizes this, and therefore treads the water carefully, until there is some cohesion within the party as to what they will do. I'm neither EU nor British, btw. Just an innocent Norwegian bystander..

[@col.hertford9855]

Yep, which was a mentioned during the vote campaign. But personally I think we could do without the British exceptionalism that keeps dragging us down.

[@benghiskahn3673]

That's it. We HAD the best deal of any member state. We had opt-outs that only the Danish had (I think), we had the rebate, we got to keep our own currency indefinitely and we were one of the three most influential states within the Parliament. It's just a shame we kept electing MEPs like Farage who would moan that we didn't have representation or influence whilst simultaneously boasting one of the worst attendance records of any MEP. The UK would need to REALLY put its house in order before any talks of rejoining any of SM, CU, EFTA or full-fat EU.

[@patsyjames2077]

Rejoin the single market double quick!!

[@carpog]

We have to wait until there is a change of government (most likely Labour) and then make a concerted effort to pressure them to reverse this ridiculous decision. These problems won't go away until we're back in.

[@chatham43]

......you and James can moan and whinge as much as you want...we ain't going back...😊

[@zippymufo9765]

Labour has yet to take a "rejoin" position.

[@bh5037]

Not a UK decission to rejoin - you can APPLY - but decissions on that are made in 27 capitals of 27 sovereign countries .. probb some will deny you the entrance after all these scams and lies since 2016.....( not to talk about all the blaming for selfinflicted harm )

[@zippymufo9765]

@Outcast Nope

[@aconcernedcitizen6056]

If people like you got behind Brexit and make the best of what you perceive to be a bad situation, then the country would be in a much better state.

[@jonathanwetherell3609]

I could see that BRexit would be bad, probably very bad but I now fear it will be even worse than that.

[@alastor2322]

it'll be so bad well all starve and wont have any shoes on our feet

[@chatham43]

....you should be jumping for joy....economy in a mess and Labour waiting in the wings..... to compound the mess.

[@jonathanwetherell3609]

@@chatham43 Check your history. Labour have a track record of inheriting a mess and turning things around. We were in the black before the banking crash. Psot WW2 Labour turned the finances round AND set up the welfare state. '60s, inherited a mess, etc.

[@tussk.]

I was talking to a butcher in a well known grocers/supermarket today, and he told me that the reason that his shelves were half empty is that farmers in the UK don't produce enough to fill them, and have export obligations that mean more food is being exported than imported. Our farmers are legally contracted to supply thier overseas customers, but the opposite isn't true. We are close to being in serious trouble.

[@petelawless811]

Because idiots like yourself are ok with mass emigration

[@richardlewis7498]

not the empty shelves again

[@ballapeti]

“Close to…”?

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

Why are we legally obliged to export produce considering that we are no longer in the EU?; successive governments have been spineless to challenge this tyrannical law, if we had the Mafia in Government they would get things done instead of wasting time debating as white British people do, all talk and no action

[@robuk3723]

Nonsense.

[@vehx9316]

find a way to rejoin the Single Market and Customs Union, only thing is the UK will be rejoining as a pure rule taker and not a rule giver as an EX-EU member.

[@shawngrinter2747]

I left the U.K., you lot can sort it out yourselves

[@ecaeas4439]

Well firstly, a lot of people still haven't admitted that the UK needs to be back in the EU. That hurdle might jump itself. Then, people need to understand what we (as the UK can do) and what we can't do. Whether we join the EU is up to the EU members. Not us. Perceptions of us matter, even if some might persist even after we've made a solid attempt to improve our image and our trustworthiness. It's very much out of our hands even when we start the "process" - still something we need to define.

[@jyvben1520]

yeah, rule taker for at least a decade or two ...

[@pansepot1490]

I have often pointed out to people who say “they (the EU) won’t take us back anyway!” that that is a self fulfilling prophecy. My personal opinion is that the British people have been let down by a dreadfully sub par political class. Yeah, Johnson “got Brexit done” but Corbyn’s fence sitting first and Starmer’s silence now are a big part of the problem. Majority of Brits may already regretting leaving the EU and wishing to rejoin but without their politicians talking about it, acknowledging the issue and actively working towards rejoining people’s regret won’t materialize into anything concrete. It’s not so much the British people who have gained a reputation of untrustworthiness but rather their politicians. Tbh I find it despicable how said politicians (both sides) try to cover their incompetence and failure to lead by blaming the public with “you voted for it”, when everyone knows it was all a political game gone wrong.

[@private-private]

Europe in my opinion will not want the Uk back in. The UK press for too many years laughed at the EU and some of its rules and yes... some of the rules were laughable but one has to look at the over all benefits rather than constantly point out the almost unimportant for the most part silliness of many of the rules. To many Tories derided the EU since the day the UK joined. The headlines, the political lies, the sneering of the EU from half of the UK public in my opinion would mean that the EU for the next two decades would not want the UK back. It will sadly take another generation for the UK people to even accept their decision was a disaster for them economically because the disaster has not yet happened. Covid put much of that on hold and disguised it but its coming to pass now and that will be a hard pill for the 52% of UK citizens who voted to leave to swallow but it should be a hard pill too because one can blame the politicians all one wants.... the public believed the lies when all other European citizens were mystified that anyone could believe them.

[@dutchuncle3310]

Getting everyone who promoted Brexit out of the House of Commons reform the House of Lords into an elected second chamber, indirectly elected by local councils and in doing so make it a true chamber for reflection and a real brake for governments pushing trough controversial legislation and I doing so get rid of cronies put there by previous governments to support them in perpetuity. Change the electoral system in such a way that it will become impossible to have a massive majority in the House of Commons with less then halve of the votes would be an excellent start.

[@ecaeas4439]

@@dutchuncle3310 I think those things are more about internal UK politics. Not really applicable to actual criteria the UK would have to fulfill. It's very easy to put forth a bunch of internal political reform and say "This is what you need to do" - it's much harder to actually change the dynamic function of politics in any country.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Thank you James

[@tomwaller6893]

Reverse Brexit and say sorry to the Irish and Scottish people and the Welsh Born. That is what you must do.

[@mattydare]

Guy Fawkes reform party? Seriously though, we need ppl in charge who have integrity and the welfare of the country at heart.

[@kanedNunable]

so, not the tories then... we need a new system i think. this one isnt fit for purpose. its for the rich and corporations and our expense. this isnt progress, its going back to feudal times.

[@chatham43]

....and where's that going to come from....?

[@eugenevidocq5529]

Rejoin? Does anyone really think the EU will shout out „oh yes welcome back any time“? Ridiculous.

[@thepatriot4076]

Let’s be honest here, ENGLAND is the problem. NI, Scotland and wales can rejoin the EU but that means the UK must end and England can get fuct.

[@dariuszgierczak9387]

James, you are my favourite journalist, even I have moved back to Poland I always find the time for you!

[@robertarmstrong3478]

All you can say about Brexit is ; the turkeys voted for Christmas

[@anonomous8719]

Get well soon James - hope you get over brexit soon.

[@jeffsimon9594]

He will be babbling about 'Farridge' on his death bed..

[@stephenhill545]

The illness that it is.

[@jasonking2976]

The Australian Trade Deal = whilst British farmers crops rot in the fields, at least British people will be able to go and pick fruit in Australia. What a resut for us all.

[@petefl1818]

Project fear was always the prediction of what would happen after Brexit, the fact that prediction is now happening cannot give anyone satisfaction.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Great video

[@twisteddancer7773]

Oh James and Brexit. His gift that keeps on giving

[@chatham43]

....he's building a high blood pressure around it bless him.....😊

[@dolmen6613]

yep -he never shuts up about it but hasn't the guts to do anything - let's see him put his money where his mouth is and run in the next election

[@ursulascheufens-white740]

For goodness sake, james, it’s too late now. The eu knows we’re a bunch of fools, they’re not going to have us back to make trouble again.

[@thepatriot4076]

Let’s be honest here, ENGLAND is the problem. NI, Scotland and wales can rejoin the EU but that means the UK must end and England can go get fuct.

[@25MHzisbest]

Cornwall will have to close as all the EU funding is gone!

[@nick1065]

C’mon, you can do better than that. The whole country will have to close…keep up.

[@simontemplar404]

You may laugh but there will be no grants from this government to impoverished rural areas of the country to replace the millions that the EU spent on building roads, bridges and other infrastructure.

[@coinneachreid8971]

@@nick1065 Yeah but an Independent Scotland and NI will be up and open again before little England. Not being flippant but unless the Labour party actively change their position on Brexit and go into the election on a re-join ticket then it will be the end of the union.

[@25MHzisbest]

@@nick1065 I take it you're not aware of the deficit after brexit in Cornwall. And how much Cornwall as a county benefited from the EU in a disproportionately high way. Cornwall council has a very large annual black hole in funding to fill and the government offer doesn't touch the sides!

[@markwelch3564]

@@coinneachreid8971 to be fair, there is no rejoin ticket in the next election. Even the ultra-Europhile LibDems only have a roadmap that aims to rejoin a decade or more into the future We should start that process though, preferably soon!

[@cavendish009]

We should rejoin the "Single Market" which we should NEVER HAVE LEFT IN THE FIRST PLACE. All those in the know said as much as the negotiations were taking place. No alternative.

[@timmurphy5541]

It took dishonesty to get out, we will have to get back in bit by bit.

[@chatham43]

....not going to happen.....

[@timmurphy5541]

@@chatham43 oh yes. We are not in Zimbabwe yet - there is no secret police or dictatorship to force us. You exiters had your time at the wheel and you crashed the car....

[@po-cf1ut]

Someone needs to make a pitch at least for the Customs Union....

[@CoffeenSpice]

Aaah the Paris stock market! The future of London 😇

[@edwilliamson8327]

Ahh yes, more strockbrokers , thats the answer to Climate change and the cost of living crisis!

[@chatham43]

....then move to Paris and give us some peace.......

[@sphinx1017]

The people who voted brexit will never admit they were wrong.

[@msa-tt4bg]

I will, and i knew leaving the EU would be a bad idea even before i voted Leave.

[@sphinx1017]

@@msa-tt4bg so why vote leave?

[@msa-tt4bg]

@@sphinx1017 I decided i'd vote for whoever was behind in the polls at 21:30 hrs.

[@sphinx1017]

What sense does that make though?

[@msa-tt4bg]

@@sphinx1017 I was hoping we would get close to leaving the EU but not actually leave.

[@surfcitiz]

The very first step in the process of improving things is to admit the failure. Until this is done, nothing will change for better.

[@st170restoration]

We’re absolutely ducked.

[@amcc5887]

What does kier starmer think about all this,is he pro brexit also???why is he not speaking out about ,am I missing something here???

[@sojounourtruth2980]

2019 Election results and the clown's Brexit mandate

[@doughooper9918]

All of those talking points are damning evidence of Britain pulling out of Europe. The bottom line is the British people were sold on getting out of the European parliament and all those rules and beurocracy. But the reality is that Britain pulled out of the common market which is a tremendously successful partnership allowing Europe to flourish not only economically but politically for the past 60 years. All gone with the brush of a pen. So now the British people must sacrifice to get back to where they were pre brexit. The European common market ensured that people could make a living wage. Now Britain has to compete against !ow wage countries such as China and Vietnam to sell their goods. There is no more market protecting them. That of course means social programs will be cut. The tax base will not be what it once was. When brexit was happening you could see those bankers from Europe licking their lips at the increase of business that they were bound to get as the influence of London banking system declines. Lets hope that Britain can go back to their historical strength of inventing things to create a competitive advantage. Because low wages is not going to get them anywhere.

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

The so-called Living Wage is the diametric opposite of a Living Wage, it was never a Living Wage, only by name. The current so-called Living Wage is £9.50 an hour, the last time £9.50 an hour enabled anyone to live a reasonable quality of life was 30 years ago, therefore how can £9.50 an hour still be a Living Wage in 2022??????

[@roghays8900]

I agree with you.

[@allanb9360]

What was wrong with a benign trade deal?

[@olegfedorov3225]

Old joke from 2016, about how Brexit might help countries get accepted to EU but very cruel now : "UK freed 1GB of space to new apps."

[@tofu-loving-wokerati5516]

I work in finance and People really need to understand the comment about London Stock Exchange vs Paris Stock Exchange. In 2015, London Stock Exchange had a greater market cap than Paris, Amsterdam, Lisbon, Brussels combined. Yesterday Paris alone overtook the LSE. This is deeply upsetting as this was one of our crown jewels when it came to financial status in Europe.

[@davidbrayshaw6162]

The City was the reason THE ONLY REASON BRITAIN REMAINED WEALTHY! With that slowly leaking away Britain is only going to get poorer and poorer and poorer! We are already being talked about as being lowered from first world to emerging nation! It’s horrific! Self inflicted too! DUMB DUMB DUMB!

[@bm8641]

Brexiteers don't care.

[@Prhbuild]

There is many protests at ARLA IN AYLESBURY. For what reasons as its always kept quite whats happening.

[@lobintool]

At the risk of repeating myself " UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME"!

[@MrBurnley21]

Love this geezer! He's top end

[@martinhambleton5076]

He is a something end.

[@louisesawyer1866]

Well said 👏 👌 👍

[@davidbarbero6212]

Brexit was never about economics, it was about identity.

[@clappersbcn6466]

love your comments here. have you ever interviewed people like me , a British guy in me who lives and works in Spain? it's fine to talk about Brexit from a UK context but what about us in the EU? even wrote a song about it! thanks a lot for your input

[@ianfraser6161]

First off, we ensure the Conservatives never form a government again. Proportional representation.

[@weareallbornmad410]

You guys don't have proportional representation? Which century do you live in???

[@nathancopestake2683]

Well what’s the plan then? Should the plan begin to campaign to rejoin?

[@the_real_tho4346]

Honestly not 100% sure if the EU wants the UK back

[@markwelch3564]

@@the_real_tho4346 but we won't know until we ask! As long as we do so without arrogance and entitlement, it won't hurt to open discussions about what would be expected before we could rejoin

[@delincuente6647]

@@markwelch3564 "we made a mistake" - words that will never be uttered by a dishonest government.

[@the_real_tho4346]

@@markwelch3564 absolutely agree, and I as a European, would love to see you back. But there political governance, which the UK is displaying at the moment, makes it really hard to have a trustworthy partner to negotiate with at the moment

[@markwelch3564]

@@the_real_tho4346 Thankfully their time is running out - only a few years left to endure...

[@simonheindl6522]

3:12 : vote for your local lib dem or snp candidate who is pledging to vote in favor of rejoining

[@clivecox703]

We should be shouting from the top of the trees about how we have less affordable food and less food on the shelves post Brexit. We made a mistake as remainers of being too arrogant to think our fellow Britons were too smart and would never vote leave. We were wrong so now let’s be smart and point out each of the mounting evidence and push the next labour government to rejoin. Let’s start a REJOIN campaign!!!

[@seancurran6590]

It is amazing that there have been no great documentaries from the usually reliable quarters...BBC, C4 etc on this landmark issue. Its almost as though they're afraid or have been bullied into not turning over that stone.

[@davidfellowes1628]

Open a conversation with the EU on behalf of all remainders and those leave individuals who have changed their mind and see how it develops. The evidence will continue to reinforce the validity of our position

[@paulgolding1009]

Wait till after the budget then hopefully see the whackos realise what a mess we are in.

[@chatham43]

....lockdown...and now we are paying the price.....or do you actually believe in a free lunch.....😊

[@MrBizteck]

There will NEVER be a reversal. Unless we adopt the Euro and if we ever do I will laugh and laugh and laugh.

[@AtlasClear]

Why don’t we have a vote with the most simple question after brexit. Do we think it was worth it?

[@eenie1234]

I was around when we were told that joining the Common Market would be our saviour. Britain was in decline. Joining the Club would give us cheaper goods, more jobs and prosperity with our neighbour Countries. But of course the Common Market changed and it’s real plan was to develop into a Federal Union. Of course, being British we don’t take orders from anyone. We left, and now the 70’s era of decline and decay before the Common Market have returned for all to see.

[@davecap2641]

Someone with boundless courage needs to go cap in hand to the EU, apologise and ask nicely if we can do a deal which might just save the sinking ship called UK.

[@richardlewis7498]

wont get SFA from the EU

[@davecap2641]

@Yakov Shani Brilliant lol

[@davecap2641]

@@richardlewis7498 True

[@tomwhittingham1007]

Still not talking about pandemic level excess deaths

[@ireneteare2365]

We need food right HERE.

[@johnmolloy3750]

Start by getting a free trade agreement with the EU.. Negotiate!! It'll hurt, but it'll immediately relieve some pressure on British exporters. Also, it'll allow the NI Protocol to be abandoned, thus removing the last shred of justification for the DUP's antics in Belfast.

[@richardlewis7498]

remember what Barnier cant pick and choose got to agree to all the rules first

[@eugenieponleve667]

Neither the EU nor the USA will abandon the NI protocol,signed by Britain anyway and who would ever wish to sign a new deal with a country that does not keep its word ?

[@iananderson6705]

Yeah I voted for this and I really regret because they don't have a ffn clue what to do. It's a terrible mess

[@benghiskahn3673]

That was the whole point. Sell Brexit as everything to everyone to drive a wedge through society and then use the resultant chaos to empower and enrich those who fed it in the first place.

[@BobGolob]

WE ARE DOOMED !!!

[@nick1065]

Only if you tune into O’Plopski

[@clarecollins2547]

We may have to beg to rejoin. Humbly beg.

[@antoniotranfaglia3086]

Rejoin the single market and EU is the only way out of this catastrophe if they allow you to do so. France or Ireland do not have any interest to allow UK to rejoin.

[@thepatriot4076]

Let’s be honest here, it’s ENGLAND that’s the problem. NI, Scotland and wales can rejoin the EU but the English can go get fuct.

[@edwilliamson8327]

" What are we gonna do?" Moan that you lost for another couple of decades?

[@ErwinPommel]

You also lost. We all lost. It's sad you still can't see that.

[@dougharris4853]

Ask respectfully if UK can return to single market. Allow freedom of movement as part of the deal

[@johnbarnes888]

Answer to question, nothing. There is nothing we can do about it

[@nicholasspeeks5380]

I know what I’m going to do. Emigrate.

[@petelawless811]

Bye

[@nick1065]

Bye bye Nicholas!

[@PatrickStarfishman]

I'm one of the biggest remainers going but should qe "re join" is a different question to should we "remain". For a couple of examples, there is no chance we will have a rebate for our membership fees, no chance we can rejoin without taking the euro, no chance we will have the original differences between our customs checked compared to the rest of the shengen area. I'm almost certainly in favour of rejoining but especially the taking the euro thing does make me nervous. I see how Germany bullied Greece 10 years ago and Italy, Spain and Greece would have been better off being out of the single currency post 2008 and got very very little help from the richer quarters of Europe. I think it's important that we don't make the decision to rejoin based on the same tribalism that pulled us out. It HAS to be an honest and open debate from both sides. A measured debate. One where both sides are willing to admit the weaknesses of their own position or it will just be the same calamity as the first referendum. I fear and attempt to rejoin will just be turned into the remainer victory parade amplified by years of pent up frustration, hut and anger. Cathartic for sure, but destructive.

[@markwelch3564]

I understand your concerns, but we haven't even got rejoin on the table of mainstream political discussion yet. Is it a bit too soon to be worrying about how the end plays out?

[@markwelch3564]

I understand your concerns, but we haven't even got rejoin on the table of mainstream political discussion yet. Is it a bit too soon to be worrying about how the end plays out?

[@private-private]

Greece needed to be " bullied" because they were not willing to become more productive themselves and having their own currency continually devalued by their own gov to stay competitive is a road to now where fast. Greece joined the EU knowing what would be required of it to be a member. What many greek politicians wanted was the best of the EU without the responsibilities and thats not possible. The same for Italy. Ireland was effected dreadfully by the single currency and interest rates remaining so low simply because the German economy was in the doldrums due to re unification but on the whole? The UK is not even close to be ready to have the discussion regarding re joining, it will have to go through a lot more economical pain before that discussion is even tolerated which is very sad fo the UK.

[@PatrickStarfishman]

@@private-private Greece deserved it. Italy deserved it. Ireland problems are Germanys economy and britain cant even THINK about rejoining. It's lovely to talk to someone who has all the answers. I cant Imagine why brexiteers hated remainers so much.

[@private-private]

@@PatrickStarfishman Ok Patrick but that comment is not saying anything other than taking a cut at me which is fine but what does it achieve. Stop been so emotional and try been logical. Greece did deserve it because it wanted to continue its policy of money for nothing for its citizens and thats just not possible. They wanted the richer more productive countries to bail them out and the richer more productive countries said no so the richer more productive countries were called Bullies??? Irelands problems were much more than as a result of the German economy, there were because of hubris, stupidity, greed, free money due to low interest rates but I dont have the space in the comment section on you tube to write full reasons that are my opinion. Im not a remainer Patrick, I dont even live in the UK. I have no skin in the game here other than like the vast majority of europeans who watched Brexit unfold that found the entire situation incomprehensible. Germany did NOT bully Greece as you suggest, it simply said we are not giving you more of our money so you can continue as is. Thats not bullying. Thats logic.

[@NoverianSnowCone]

I think something will only happen once it starts affecting individual politician's pockets, which is unlikely. Even Starmer is being cowardly about it because he's afraid it'll affect his leadership position right now.

[@chrisashton9218]

We’re going to suffer

[@steveozone4910]

I'd atleast have respect for the Tories if they held their hands up and say it was a huge mistake for the country.

[@simongilliver1149]

It's all going to come down to public opinion. I believe Labour will campaign the next election on at least a rejoin the Single Market, if not rejoin the EU manifesto, if, and only if, they have confidence they can win that way. Public opinion is clearly shifting, but not far enough that Starmer can feel confident yet, and his natural instinct is always caution. So he will keep his cards close to his chest and give no hint of such a policy now, while the election is still so far off. Our one hope is that public opinion will have shifted far enough by the next election campaign that Labour will take the leap of faith. Also, the closer the election gets, if the Tories are still trailing in the polls, the less the BBC will fear them taking away the license fee and will go further down the road of reporting honestly. I'm already surprised and encouraged by their recent small shift towards daring to question Brexit. Much of the power to swing this lies in their hands. I am cautiously optimistic.

[@LL-vk9zc]

Whatever happens with the UK/EU discussions (not negotiations) on the NI Protocol and whether or not some resolution can be found will dictate what follows. Labour is probably waiting for more actual evidence in the form of trade data to enable some move in the direction of improving the huge economic losses. All will be out in the open before end of 2023.

[@MrAsutcliffe]

Keir Starmer has first to win the next election. He can't say that he will want to rejoin the eu. The labour party has many brexiters in its rangs, and followers. One thing that Keir Starmer is, is not stuipid. He is a step by step person, he is our only hope.

[@davidlancaster4476]

but he doesn't know what woman is, daren't say a lot of votes there to lose.

[@Theoneandonly-JM]

In short, hold another referendum on Brexit.. based on the fact that we the country now understands the implications and true cost of Brexit. To make any informed decision you need facts, now we would be able to list the pros and cons and present them in a way that could benefit both Europe and the UK.

[@lesleywillis6177]

Will you also highlight the true consequences of rejoining? Loss of our currency, living under a foreign flag, with a new anthem. Being referred to as a “state” not a country. EU wide laws and taxation. An EU army controlling our armed forces. And of course having our fishing immigration and agricultural policies decided for us. I LOVE the idea of a free trade zone. Unfortunately the EU is not one. It is an empire building enterprise that uses the threat of removing free trade in order to further it’s goals. No the cost of this free trade is too high. No United States of Europe for me!

[@Theoneandonly-JM]

@@lesleywillis6177 you have been misinformed. Part of the frustrations of Brexit was misinformation and sadly too many people were lead by people in power that had other agendas. Facts are what we all need to make these important decisions - essentially if the information cannot be corroborated then it’s fabricated. Take time out to fact-check information / beliefs. All the best! John

[@dolmen6613]

and hold another referendum after that (in case people vote to stay out)..in fact keep holding them until we get the result we want

[@LiveDonkeyDeadLion]

I think Starmer is taking the right route by not talking about it right now because the tories will use it to split the vote and create more division. He’s an intelligent man and without a doubt will do something about it, but right now by not talking about it he makes the tories look dumb when they try to use it as an answer to something that wasn’t asked. He’s making the Tories reveal what the emperor is really wearing

[@paulhammond6978]

Yes, people I respect seem to think that Starmer taking the line "I'll try to make Brexit work better" is a necessary step for getting people who are having trouble letting it go to realise that we really did try honestly to make it work. I'm not sure it's overcautious, but I can see that argument.

[@LiveDonkeyDeadLion]

@@paulhammond6978 we didn’t try to make it work, it could never work, but some people still haven’t realised that yet

[@benghiskahn3673]

@@paulhammond6978 It's a quasi-pragmatic approach. He realises just how divisive Brexit was and knows that to re-open the debate would play straight into the Tory's hands. I've seen it numerous times in PMQs where Johnson, Truss and Sunak keep bringing it up whenever they're backed into a corner. I recall that at the height of the Johnson controversies, Johnson was practically begging Starmer to talk about Brexit in PMQs. Unfortunately I think Brexit is a bitter pill the country must swallow for a few more years in order to rid it of its delusions of grandeur and exceptionalism.