James O’Brien - Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast

[@NxDoyle]

31:54 "You can explain it to them, you can't understand it for them." That's a great line. Sadly, from what I've heard of James' LBC show, it holds true, despite his best efforts.

[@disuye]

revisiting this in 2019 - first class interview - get James back on RHLSTP stat!

[@milesfinch]

I do like James. Out of all the bile that LBC pedals these days he seems to be the star of the station.

[@seanp8220]

No that would be Maajid Nawaz

[@zaffranmoon1580]

Nope Nick Abbott

[@mc.8391]

James O'Brien is the bile...no-one insults the ordinary man quite like JOB.....

[@Ffinity]

@@mc.8391 If the ordinary man rings up a national radio station to talk absolute drivel then he deserves to be insulted. What you really mean is that you agree with the bigots and morons that he squashes like bugs.

[@zetetick395]

Sharing 'old people being crap with technology' moments We bought our grandparents a new remote control TV for Christmas, in the late 80s (they'd always had this 'big old clicky buttons on the TV set' faux-wood type telly, from like 1972) - The next time we went round their home we discovered they'd *locked* the remote control away in a desk drawer, when we asked why, they said they were scared of missing the TV with the remote controls "ray-beam" and accidentally setting fire to the curtains! XD

[@thehowlingfantodz]

I love this story

[@grandmaster_gus]

I remember my dad telling me when they got their first tv when he was a kid, he came downstairs the next morning and didn't know how to work it or anything, and somehow had the bright idea that maybe you're supposed to pour water into it. So he did. And wrecked it 😆🤣

[@readventurekids]

This was brilliant! Genuinely never heard James O'Brien before. Now going to listen to his LBC shows.

[@TheCptJackie]

Mr Herring, your podcasts are so funny, I have been binge watching them, and as a result my house is a complete tip! And it's ALL YOUR FAULT! Hope to catch you live one day ...

[@notused.]

I'm glad it's not just me 😉

[@sharples14]

The football analogy was very Alan Partridge: “Every debate descends into, you know, Rovers vs... City.”

[@Gunnersaurus1]

"You can explain it to them but you can't understand it for them."

[@jamespotter3660]

Good one. Get Mr O'Brien on again. Cheers Rich!

[@228ss]

It's like watching a man slowly fall into a sausage and beer spiral of despair :(

[@eskileriksson4457]

You can explain it to them, you can't understand it for them. That one goes into long term memory.

[@GiantSandles]

His book's actually called 'How to be Right in a World Gone Wrong'? Fucking hell, sums him up really.

[@rodneyfernandes42508]

His intros always remind me of Patricia Routledge doing her Dear Kitty monologues in the late 80's and early 90's

[@jainedutton1619]

Would like to see Richard interview: Greg McHugh, Frank Skinner, Bob Mortimer, Richard Ayoade, Russell Howard ......

[@mattgreek1066]

Jaine Dutton he’s had at least two of those on this very podcast.

[@markshea470]

I agree with Miles. I started listening at the beginning of the Middle Eastern uprising and it was a station that reported the news and had a solid opinion on the various subjects it reported on. Nowadays with Farage being given a voice and a pulpit to preach his distorted facts from and also Nick Ferrari who's won awards for his presenting on there and routinely hosting Jacob Rees-Mogg as a reliable voice on this subject; I am turned away from generally listening and pick my pundits. For me Nick Ferrari has hung his hat with Farage and other Brexiteers and is less interested in being an LBC presenter than using his position to make a personal point.

[@paulconnelly4050]

This was a great watch. Been listening to James O' Brien for years. Had me chuckling for completely different reasons than some of the luckless imbeciles that ring him up thinking they've got an issue completely figured out.

[@blindfreddy9157]

All sewers lead to Murdoch.

[@martinobrien7110]

& Rats .

[@KTGetc]

There is no "trans debate", mate. Our existence isn't up for debate. We're here. The debate is whether or not to treat us like humans, and I should hope the choice there is clear.

[@Rory-20-14]

people will always find offence when they are unhappy

[@abigailmurray5897]

It's sad because we shouldn't need to say it. With most subjects I would agree with the statement that things should be open for debate but we have to draw a line before debate starts doing people real harm. This is especially important to consider when transphobes use debate as a tool to try and hammer people out of existence. Trans people exist and our lives are non optional. Our rights and treatment should be considered as sacrosanct and immutable as a cis person.

[@barrychuckleisdead7345]

@@abigailmurray5897 I don't think the "trans debate" is about whether society should treat them with respect and dignity - it's a given that all humans should be treated that way. The debate, as I see it, is whether society should change / depart from established "norms", and if so to what extent. Our society is incredibly sexist in many ways (e.g. prisons, sentencing, divorce laws, toilets, schools, sport), and how it can work in terms of accommodating transgender people better needs careful consideration. Knee jerk reactions in the name of not wanting to offend is stupid and offensive to everyone except the beneficiaries.

[@rachek7958]

I completely get why his comment would cause frustration, and I could be wrong, but I'm not sure the debate he's talking about is whether or not trans people exist and deserve rights. There's always grey areas, many trans people define themselves differently and lots of people approach gender differently and I think it's more about understanding that and identifying which social norms are harmful and which aren't. That's not a simple task and of course needs discussing. People debate what coffee to have in their office, people debate what colour to wear to a wedding. Debates aren't always critical or judgemental.

[@joshuanewland7505]

Get Bill Hicks on.

[@sratus]

Those trainers were a mistake

[@stevelivingstone4616]

They were a mistake 20 years ago, they are a crime now.

[@markyboybdi]

Absolutely brilliant. Should be made part of the curriculum

[@peterjf7723]

I was not aware of James O'Brien before. This was an interesting interview I will have to get his book.

[@rmason4358]

Peter JF He is interesting to listen to, he is a thinker and fair. I appreciate having him on air when there are so many liars and fools trying to manipulate us for the worse.

[@Senjlimbu]

@@rmason4358 well said, he is not perfect but he is very good and just. If he asks you for facts and you just give him your feelings he will tell you off/ or correct you instead of patronising you and allowing you to talk what may very be emotionally driven rubbish; or just plain ignorance. In this generations where alternative information and rubbish seems to dominate over reality in most of the mainstream media, we need people like James who focuses on truth and calls out on people's bs. His book is a collection of his experiences mainly on his radio show over the years, very quaint. But like I said he isnt perfect, just as his hero Christopher Hitchens, he has flaws, so be sure to observe his oppositions so that your conclusions are more informed.

[@katoness]

O Brien is a despicable person, he constantly talks over people who have a different viewpoint to him.

[@katoness]

@Keith Panton Like he doesn't talk absolute bollocks himself?

[@tourettes4893]

Miles Jupp has let himself go.

[@joewakeford]

How the heck did I manage to wait an entire hour before hitting play?! Great stuff Rich!

[@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou]

We had those curtains in our house when I was a kid.

[@markncl100]

I really enjoyed watching this. There is something so dishy about James. I am fast becoming a huge fan of both James and Richard. Actual conversations seems to be the one thing that is lacking on our media regarding a myriad issues.

[@mattgreek1066]

Mark you don’t need to use the word ‘of’ after the word ‘myriad’. It’s ‘myriad issues’. And that’s my grammar Nazi work done for the day. Cheers.

[@markncl100]

@@mattgreek1066 Thank you Matt.

[@mattgreek1066]

Mark my absolute pleasure. And thank YOU for not calling me a cunt.

[@VeraTR909]

Interview ends 1:20:35

[@fluorosco]

@@MT-kx2uc His parties end at 0:00:00

[@kriss_b]

Fantastic interview and chat. Brilliant by both

[@The_Garden_of_Fragile_Egos]

Lol, just got through listening to him on LBC. Exciting day it's been.

[@Dsnipez18]

Mystery hour with emergency questions 😂

[@Jayneflakes]

Great interview, well done Richard.

[@ianclarke5404]

The Greeks who invented democracy had a lottery and depending on the who was drawn out they would be given a position like chancellor and the like ,no excuses you had to do the job .

[@drewboyd7508]

Since they're banning fixed odds betting machines - you could instead run a sweepstake on the minute of the first "I am the proud daddy of a baby" mention

[@Herring1967]

Mostly I seem to be saying that I hate my baby in this series, so not sure that would work out.

[@galesito1733]

Absolutely brilliant!

[@RIXRADvidz]

I'm sorry, but who would bitch about private time with Richard? 4 minutes and 24 seconds of just Richard sitting and chatting, telling us about what's new and now, fun things that are going to happen, a hearty suggestion of a pleasant beverage with which to enjoy RHLSTP, and that smiling happy face. 4 minutes and 24 seconds of private time. a nice dose, a nice starter.

[@T0mat0S0up]

As it Occurs to Me, is the best thing you've done in the past 12 years.

[@trevorrandom]

Fyi video starts at 00.01

[@bonnie43uk]

and James OB comes on at 8:34

[@TTVOhMiffy]

How he pronounces EMINEM keeps me up at night

[@EmpyreanSasarai]

Dog comes on at 2.11

[@gwaptiva]

"Ban people who want to go into politics from going into politics...", see Sir Thomas More, _Utopia_

[@RIXRADvidz]

Kryten vs Data..?? Ashe. on the Nostromo. >mic drop< James O'Brien? have I got news for you. quite a while back.

[@p00ky76]

Billy Bunter has let himself go :o

[@drakinkoren]

You get a like just for that intro haha

[@Usdi1999]

The effigy-burning actually takes place in Lewes, Sussex, not Dorset.

[@korona3103]

There'll always be milk...

[@SnoodyMcFlude]

Here in December 2020 seems like maybe Richard predicted/caused the current bullshit: "Recorded on a particularly depressing week, but maybe not as depressing as the world you’re living in as you listen to it"

[@paulcarrmusicandvideo]

I liked the long intro. I fancy some sausages now.

[@MrGBS1972]

Excellent!

[@maba7772]

Two superb interviewers, but who is better at backgammon?

[@jamespark1997]

Very clever to upload this during his show Richard!

[@edkent8140]

There'll always be milk

[@romfordgal]

Beer 52 has gone up to £5.95... Shocking increase..

[@Herring1967]

Not with my link - www.beer52.com/rhlstp

[@cuzned1375]

57:33 James with the correct reaction. 😆

[@maba7772]

[Comment Deleted] Secret maintained. Have you considered acquiring an wickered basket?

[@chrisofnottingham]

Alcohol being a depressant means it reduces brain activity, not that it makes you feel depressed.

[@chrisofnottingham]

I scanned the comments before watching and picked up that this guest must be a bit right wing compared to the typical guest, so I was squaring up to be unimpressed. Now I've watched it and he seems about as reasonable person as I've heard. But he isn't a comedian. Maybe that was it.

[@AnonEyeMouse]

I have to see same curtains in my skull room!

[@EllisThings]

Bill, Bill. Bill. Come on mate.

[@johngreenwood1972]

Great bloke.

[@finchy4781]

Frank skinner for the Birmingham gig please!!!!!!!!!!

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

For why ? I still remember his appearance on This Is Your Life - there were members of the general public who had more interesinting lives and annecdotes.

[@richardhooper9656]

@@SamLowryDZ-015 He really is a dead-eyed Palpatine twat.

[@abegarfield7031]

@@SamLowryDZ-015 This is your life was heavily edited. You must know this, no one is that stupid. Obviously TIYL isn't going to keep the sexual stories, any accidental admissions to crimes or anything that might get them into trouble. Also it is/was a TV show. It has to be cut down to fit into a time slot. You judge comedians by the shit gameshows they present, don't you? Not at all aware that they have to make a living.

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

@@abegarfield7031 wtf are you going on about no one mentioned game shows or anything else you are ranting about.

[@nightw4tchman]

28:17 Most of these stories seem to start this way.

[@bumcreland]

There's a bit of gabbling around the 40:13 mark, but he's trying to tell us "what the BBC did earlier", stating that they deleted a tweet, and then he restarts with "I mean this is a guy who has said 'I would never have raped you because you're too ugly', 'if my son was gay I'd rather he was dead', something similarly toxic about immigrants..." Who is he talking about here, what did the BBC tweet actually say, and to what did it refer? The first line sounds like a bad paraphrase of the Sargon tweet that Jess Phillips talked about on this very podcast (concluding that she wasn't bothered), but I don't recognise the other vague accusatory paraphrases that he uses to conclude that some unnamed figure is a 'fascist' being defended by the BBC.

[@stanleyroyd]

Brazil's new president, Jair Bolsonaro.

[@maba7772]

Can you please get Peter Hitchens on, Question Time in 2012 he said something like 'it's difficult to be part of a debate, when most people have been taught what to think and only a miniority have learnt how to think.' I don't like Peter anywhere as much is I adore Christopher Hitchens' much too short existence but I think he would be a fantastic guest, even if you have to make assurances that you won't ask questions regarding his member.

[@thegrumpytog]

Jesus Christ. Those fucking trainers.

[@mmchrisp]

Didn't particularly like the sh*t banter about jesus after trump, but James is great and the banter on the whole was interesting.

[@ChubbyChecker182]

Get Louis CK on.

[@loup8796]

O'Brien's GTA 4 review: www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-563472/Grand-Theft-Auto-IV-A-game-slick-criminal.html

[@rDanny]

It's good to give this man a platform to show just how full of shit he actually is, he says so much without actually never saying anything and pulling away from committing to any point he's trying to make. James is ok too. ;)

[@bonnie43uk]

Heh, so are you an O Brien fan aswell?, hard to judge from your comment.

[@davevikkuz6821]

Great viewing. Prince Andrew next please

[@bulletproofblouse]

I nearly got on that James O'Brien show one morning, must have had the confidence to get allowed into the queue but not quite the confidence to not bottle it while waiting. Also how sad / cool is it that I knew the original Kryten was played by David Ross? I call it ruh-huh-luh-stuh-puh.

[@lloroshastar6347]

That's it, I knew it was a David. If I remember correctly I think he came back to voice the second talkie toaster.

[@twogengaming741]

I like the intro so nah nah nah nah nah 😜😜😜

[@signeaarejrgensen61]

Biddllibip!🤪

[@marksed]

The thing with O'Brien's put-downs of Brexiteers on his radio show, is that he comes across as so self-satisfied and smug, that it's counterproductive. Is it his aim to persuade people who voted Brexit to change their mind or just to make himself feel superior? And I say this as someone who voted Remain and thinks Brexit will be a disaster.

[@rachek7958]

So he pretty much admits straight off that as a journalist he feels he has to have things to say so makes up poorly researched opinions on the fly to make himself seem relevant. That's not journalism that's just a waste of paper.

[@goodlookingcorpse]

eminEM, not EMinem.

[@Fludded]

James o Brien is an insufferable bully. Cant stand the man.

[@ryanbrownnew]

yes when people abuse their own platform to call for the censorship of others - that sounds like bully territory to me.

[@petelewis7801]

Brendan O'Neill's changed his tune

[@howdj]

Haven't watched yet, but don't tell me, he spends the whole time picking at his beard on the side of his face.

[@skawashers]

Nooooo richard leaves him alone..

[@kimweaver3323]

Hint......... hair can be brushed. But I can also black out my screen.

[@readventurekids]

Rufus Hound has let himself go.

[@BamberboughtChew]

Middle class dad trainers alert.

[@kevinobrien4550]

The Lord Haw Haw of LBC with a psychological hatred of the Britsh.

[@0wls2k]

Surprised Rich gets a word in edgeways

[@phyphor]

A few minutes after throwing trans people under the bus (because apparently human rights for a marginalised group is a thing that needs discussion) you move on to how you need to stand up to fascism by standing up for marginalised groups. It's sad to see that even liberal minded people still believe that there should be a debate about trans people.

[@gabbyjabberson9576]

I missed the bit where he advocated removing human rights phypory.

[@notsyort]

37:00 You lied. He didn't do that at all. Shame on you.

[@phyphor]

36:56 James O'Brien: "The trans debate is quite frightening at the moment, because you're not allowed to think... I don't know what to make of all of the issues attendant on 'trans' at the moment but I don't know where you're allowed to go in Britain at the moment in a public space to have a conversation about that..." 37:40 Richard saying (regarding trans and similar issues) "... it needs to be debated..." 37:45 James "It really does." Replace "trans" with any other marginalised group and you end up sounding like a literal fascist. If someone in the US, following the current trend of blaming Soros for running a secret globalist conspiracy and other anti-Semitic nonsense, says "the Jew debate is quite frightening", for example? Or a few years ago when people were arguing against gay marriage people were saying "The gay (marriage) debate is quite frightening", and even now people make similar points about whether it's OK to not demonise gay people in schools, again "the gay debate is quite frightening". Or even, to pick another thing that's actually current in both the US and UK, "the immigrant debate is quite frightening". Debating fascist and bigoted views only provides air time to those views, and trying to paint them as anything other than abhorrent doesn't help. Which both James and Richard know because at about 40:00 they mock the BBC for not calling out an authoritarian (fascist) and presenting them as "uncomfortable truths". They even specifically say that: 40:48 James "There are things that define you as a fascist, and, you know the kind of weaponised persecution of minorities is one of the biggest giveaways." At about 41:00 James decries the idea that you can have a spectrum of facts. At about 42:30 they start to talk about understanding facts and having experts weigh in - but the experts have and there is no "debate", trans people are the gender they say they are. They knock people who debate climate change, and decry the attempt to have "balance". At about 45:00 James calls out mysteriously funded institutes and groups (about Climate Change). It wold be remiss if I didn't point out the funding for most of the anti-trans rhetoric, sorry, "debate", is from Right Wing religious groups in the US who want to use trans issues as the wedge to then attack the rest of the LGBT+ groups, and roll back abortion rights. And that's the hypocrisy. Needing a debate about trans issues, but calling out persecution of minorities as a bad thing. Needing a debate about trans issues, but calling out pointless debate when the science is clear. Needing a debate about trans issues, whilst criticising mysteriously funded lobby groups who are pushing an agenda. Why do I consider trans one of the warning signs of the persecution of minorities? Because trans people have been one of the first to get persecuted, even under one of the worst fascist/authoritarian/bigoted/horrific regime. Regimes go after trans people to test the water before going after other groups: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft#Transgender_pioneers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft#Nazi_era hornet.com/stories/nazi-trans-movement-burned/

[@gabbyjabberson9576]

@@phyphor Your understanding of words seems to be seriously damaged phyphory. Maybe you think debate is persecution. I think you just hate people not agreeing with you eagerly enough.

[@notsyort]

​@@phyphor You demonstrate his claim to be correct, by your responding to a vanilla remark with utterly hysterical bullshit. It would not be "literal fascist" for someone to say "the gun debate is quite frightening at the moment, because you're not allowed to think" because the gun-toting libertarian nutters genuinely do condemn any rational discussion they espy with bruxistic vigour. In just the same way as you do when your apparent superstitious belief in gender isn't treated with the same delusional reverence as the belief that 'just add guns' is a solution to gun crime. I think you lied about him, because you don't want to admit that you don't care about intersex people, yourself. People with sex dysmorphia are just pawns in a sexuality-denying genderist fantasy, to people like you - and that is very worth discussing - how people become as mangled as you are. And this statement from you indicates that quite clearly: "Regimes go after trans people to test the water before going after other groups". Superstition was not invented in 2018 - it has been around for millennia - whereas sex changes have only existed since the 20th century. The "horrific regime[s]" to which you refer predate transexuality, and so could not have 'tested the water' on people who did not exist at the time! You are not a hero - you are just another bigot, trying to censor cricitism of their pet fantasy - akin to one of the delusional callers who phone in to his programme, thinking they're going to 'put an end to this silly debate' and 'make common sense prevail'. And then they say something that's obviously unsupportable like "Regimes go after trans people to test the water". That's not how progress works. That's how pointless, destructive censorship works.

[@DirtiestDeeds]

Lol'd when jesus came up, also at that forced grin he does when he pretends Capitalism doesn't exist.

[@mattrobins2002]

This is the first podcast I can not watch. O’Brien is terrible.

[@pen12345]

Guessing Infowars is your homepage

[@Nobipsjustbops]

Why can't you not watch others? You must be exhausted.

[@ricardoViolencia]

Thanks for letting us know...

[@lloroshastar6347]

Are you self-censoring? Wish I could do that, unfortunately you can't get away from the far right angle from the MSM these days. I swear Nigel Farage is on TV more than anyone in the parties with actual seats.

[@originalbadboy32]

Why? Because you don't agree with facts?

[@jimbeam5891]

James O'Brien is an utterly unlikeable man. Love you Richard, you goregous beast.

[@pauloliver1842]

because he's intelligent ? concise , and usually correct . or is it because your a brexiteer

[@speedrob]

@@pauloliver1842 Nope, the fact he's all for censorship... they shut down one person next they could go for him but boo hoo then right... nah.

[@jimbeam5891]

​@@pauloliver1842 Richard is goregous regardless of how he voted in the referendum.

[@maba7772]

James is far too thoughtful and considerate to be considered likeable, far too human, totally understand your thinking. Sadness shall follow. If you have an hour, his final podcast with Unfiltered is wonderful, you'd hate it.

[@mistacoz]

Only for the type of cunts who name themselves after a shit drink.

[@jimmy2minutes]

As a right wing fascist in going to watch. According to the BBC.

[@generalstrange2666]

Ahh The middle class at play.

[@Gazla1970]

James does speak a lot of sense but also a lot of bollocks, what I also don't get is he is against fascism yet sounds like a fascist, telling or wanting everyone who has a different opinion to you to either shut up or leave the planet is not the solution and is no matter what side you are on its a form of fascism surely someone as intelligent as him understands that.

[@Tautolonaut]

You can block people from using the channel now? Sounds like bullshit.

[@Herring1967]

Nope, just stop them from commenting. It's my page and if people break my rules or are unnecessarily rude then I will delete their comments. Set up your own page and you can say what you like.

[@RexOrwell]

Unsubscribed.

[@originalbadboy32]

Lol.... Because of JOB? Pathetic....

[@echus]

You always publicly wing and cry when confronted with opinions you don't like?