Alien Covenant - movie review

James and Mike review Alien: Covenant.
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[@ImusakHctividar]

My main gripe is the crew is so damn dumb that they didn't need an evil android or xenomorphs to die. They would have died off naturally, so the antagonists only sped up the process. Seriously! They don't have any backup plans, they're constantly arguing, they go onto a planet that they know nothing about without a damn space/environment suit, it's just crazy. And to top it all off, they don't have any extra crew in stasis! They were doomed from the start.

[@aphexjh]

Doooomed!

[@themadplotter]

I think the point is David had already infiltrated their plans and ship?

[@georgezuniga6298]

When the pilot starts shooting randomly inside the ship and blows everything away including herself was disappointing.

[@GawrGurasBathTubPizza]

the stupidity was pointed out on screen rant too

[@untitlednewuser]

"Nobody expects at this point to go to the theater and see a movie as good as the originals" This could be said for a lot of movies recently...

[@lungilemadela1431]

Bob Bobson that just makes it sad and depressing

[@dyllanrodriguez2828]

Bob Bobson I think its cuz people just cant stop living in the past. Or always expecting something that is always connected to the past. Idk I think its stupid that people are like that.

[@thescarecrowman]

That's because people have retrospective bias and are unwilling to see modern movies in that light. You can trust that if a classic from the past came out today, people would tear it apart without a second thought.

[@shinndig1293]

@@provisionalhypothesis No it's not. Stop lying to yourself.

[@A_Man_In_His_Van]

because you can't. they have tried to turn movies from an art form to a paint by numbers system, because of greed and it shows. actors are worse, directing is worse, the scripts and plots are abysmal, an original idea hasn't been made into a movie in a long long time. the studios are relying on computers, and talented producers and editors to created what used to be interpreted by an actor, given direction, then artfully captured. all with people taking pride in their work. now it's all about the paycheck. and only about the paycheck. it's as bad as sports.

[@OneEyedCat873]

I wanted Shaw to meet the Engineers who would answer all of her questions.

[@grizzlywhisker]

me too. i was hoping she'd come back in this movie.

[@Rammkommando]

+grizzlywhisker wait based on what ive read didnt they show shaw but she died when they crash landed on whatever the hell planet ive never seen the movie correct me if im wrong

[@grizzlywhisker]

they showed her dead corpse for like 10 seconds... that was it.

[@tyranthate]

that is probably the main reason why most people hate this movie... we wait for a long time to know what the fuck happened withthe engineers and all the god damn bio weapons on that plant was for... and just saw that asshole David ruins everything.

[@lukashepp5157]

tyranthate Alien Covenant does answer a lot...but subtlely and in metaphors. Check out the "Twin Perfect" video about it.

[@SignOfTheTimes008]

Alien and Aliens are near perfect. Hard to match up to them.

[@scoopstacey3112]

bandwaggon. everyone knows AVPR requiem was the best.

[@chrisa9822]

Game over man, game over.

[@dickmcbizz8736]

@@scoopstacey3112 lmao that's right!

[@acrophobe]

The extra videos you're looking for are called "Alien Covenant Prologue: Last Supper" and "Alien Covenant Prologue: The Crossing" They both contain essential plot and character information to understanding and appreciating the film and it's absolutely maddening and baffling as to why these scenes weren't included.

[@SushiBandit28]

acrophobe I'd imagine runtime and the flow of the script.

[@Rem694u2]

That does seem stupid. How long were they? Maybe they would have made the movie just too damn long?

[@Marcrono]

acrophobe thanks man, I was looking for this 👍

[@drogado1]

100% agree.

[@thelocalmaxtax]

acrophobe "Destiny Syndrome", where in a game or movie you have to search online for crucial plot information.

[@funkymunky]

Don't forget Alien: Isolation. Close to perfect, story-wise.

[@mdqp2]

To be honest, the rubber-banding AI of the Alien killed it for me. I was sitting in a vent, and there was a corridor which wrapped around where I was on the right, connected to a room on my left, and the Alien kept walking around back and forth between the two with no goal forever, it just wouldn't leave (as if it knew I was there) but never entered the vent (I guess because he wasn't supposed to know I was there?). Anyway, I think it's bad because as soon as you hide for a while, it instantly stops behaving in a believable way, and you can't really be clever about it (unless we call using a noisemaker something "clever", or abuse the survivors when they are available). There is never a genuine moment with the Alien, where you hide and hold your breath and then it leaves the area, it always stays until the script tells him to leave.

[@funkymunky]

I meant story-wise, ya goofs.

[@mdqp2]

Can't comment on it, then, since I didn't finish it. XD Maybe I should watch a playthrough on youtube. :)

[@vrapbrap]

Very simple, overly drawn out story, but it worked. Damn shame the game play itself was complete trash.

[@Solidnypan]

Really? Ok, maybe I'm forgetting something, but... what story? Finding the message? That wasn't even the majority of the game. And that ending... it felt like a kick in the balls after all these torturous hours of side tracking. To me it was a drawn out series of story disappointments.

[@TheDr00g]

You would NEVER walk out there without a mask solely because of unknown pathogens. and surprise that was exactly what happened.

[@TheDr00g]

that makes them absolutely unbelievable. they are supposed to be the spearhead of humanity in colonizing other planets.

[@claudioventurini7422]

It's a science fiction movie men !!!!

[@quickattackfilms7923]

But when you just throw any semblance of realism out of a movie, it just looks silly. The idea of a planet not having breathable air or having airborne pathogens is not ultra-realism.

[@marceljones7940]

even introducing our own microbes to foreign planets/ecosystems is a huge concern for scientists even today. these movies are just retarded

[@Goblin_Hands]

That, and I really wish they made David being the one to survive a lot more hidden from the audience. It was so predictable that it was David that I would have been shocked if it wasn't. They even showed him reaching for a blade. No, they should have cut it in a way to make it seem like there was NO chance it was David, but then BAM.

[@surfthestreets86]

When I saw David with long hair I thought Iggy Pop showed up out of nowhere ha.

[@MrVolcomclassic]

Elliott Knighves LMAO

[@pasta_and_butter499]

did he get thrown by a japanese delinquent?

[@jdaywork2693]

I think the girl who played Ramona in Scott Pilgrim would make either a great young Ripley or Ripley's daughter.

[@Blackenedwhiplash]

She's basically a Ripley rip-off in the 2011 movie The Thing. She's was also the only decent part of that movie lol

[@AydarBMSTU]

@@Blackenedwhiplash nothig was decent in that movie

[@Blackenedwhiplash]

@@AydarBMSTU Elizabeth Winstead was

[@rogue7723]

A _Rip-offley_ if you will.

[@Kishimyu]

I want a Transformers movie on Cybertron, WITHOUT any humans.

[@NeroLeMorte]

Kishimyu or beast machines

[@MungkaeX]

Humans just ruin movies though. The Transformers, Muppets, and even Wall-E were all ruined by the stupid humans. Those movies would have all been so much better without them. When will Hollywood learn Humans ruin everything!?!

[@MrPwner911]

Smokey McJoint War for Cybertron begs to differ.

[@TheBurleybrawler]

With Adult dialog lol

[@Sloth55Chunk]

Kishimyu Sounds expensive

[@Nicokapo7]

I think this movie biggest mistake was ruining the lore with the mad scientist cliche killing the xenomorph mythos.

[@AesirComplex]

How did it ruin the lore? David didn't create the Xenomorphs.

[@RafuStudio]

Did you watch the film?

[@Ryuujin1078]

It's pretty much makes it that David did create this breed of Xenomorphs but not the entire species. It would retcon the fact we saw a mural in Prometheus which had an alien on it

[@PowerfulFupa]

David creates a "protomorph" a early xenomorph but if he's the creator who knows

[@AesirComplex]

And even thinking back on it more, we know the engineer DNA is a 100% match with human DNA, and that the mural on the ship was over 2000 years old. This pretty much implies that the engineers know what happens when a facehugger impregnates an engineer, and it will most likely look like the original Alien xenomorph. You guys are implying that David created the facehuggers, and there's absolutely nothing to back this up. He most likely discovered a method to create and foster the eggs, and knows that the ultimate creation is a Xenomorph+human hybrid.

[@cooleobrad]

I don't think they stole the idea of solar sails from Star Trek. Maybe I am mistaken, but I think the idea of using solar powered sails is something actual scientists have considered and worked on for space travel. It is a way to obtain energy during flight and doesn't require docking for a refuel or anything like that.

[@Biggiiful]

cooleobrad you are correct

[@TheUltimateRage]

You're absolutely correct fam. NASA is going to be using solar sails to fly by Alpha Centauri for the next few decades which is pretty damn cool

[@Hellheart]

We currently use solar sail technology on some satellites. It's a reality.

[@Wolfie1262]

I don't think it was the technology being used, so much as how it looked.

[@TheDonaldduck911]

Man, this is the reason why James is a fucking lovable guy. He knows the movie is pretty shitty but he still finds enjoyment in it. He's not denying how bad it is, nor he's ignorant about it, his opinion is informed, and he simply enjoyed the movie because he's overall a positive guy. He's a good example of how to have an opinion.

[@xipetotek8216]

I respect him as a reviewer for many reasons, this included

[@kahaole123456]

The Alien itself was a cameo on the movie. Also, the hunted aspect of the series was removed, in order to "empower" some random character no one cared for. She is not Ripley and she is not even trying to be.

[@BamboLord]

I like the new background. Making it look like a movie theater was a good idea. Seems obvious, but it works lol

[@Minnevan]

Two giants sitting in a movie theatre facing the projector lol

[@kj-bm4lm]

I want to see James review on his own, he knows and understands Prometheus and the other Alien films better than Mike. It would be more interesting.

[@Descalabro]

Yet he wasn't giving any great arguments here...

[@almanac520]

The flute scene was epic. Not even Picard in TNG did it that well

[@TheBirdOHermes]

If anybody is interested here is the full timeline... for now TED 2023 (Video) Prometheus (film) Alien: Covenant (film) Alien (Film) Alien: Out of the Shadows (novel) Alien: Isolation (video game) Alien: River of Pain (novel) Aliens (film) Alien 3 (film) Aliens: Colonial Marines (video game) Alien Resurrection (film) Alien: Sea of Sorrow (novel) ________________________________________ 93 AD - Prometheus initial scene, where an Engineer sacrifices himself to create experimental life on a planet. 2023 AD - Peter Weyland gives a TED TALK 2064 AD - An Elizabeth Shaw memory from that time is shown in a memorial device system seen by David in Prometheus. 2089 AD - Elizabeth Shaw and Charles Holloway discover a star map in a Scottish cave, dating back to 35 000 years. 2093 AD - Major happenings in Prometheus expedition. 2094 AD - Catastrophic happenings that destroys Prometheus crew, except Shaw and David. 2104 AD - Happenings from Alien: Covenant 2122 AD - Happenings from Alien. 2137 AD - Happenings from Alien: Isolation aboard the Sevastopol space station. 2179 AD - Ripley is rescued from the Outer Rim. 2181 AD - Ripley is taken to Gateway Station. 2183 AD - Major happenings from Aliens, in Hadley's Hope. 2184 AD - Happenings from Alien 3. 2386 AD - Ripley is resurrected. 2434 AD - Major happenings from Alien: Resurrection.

[@TheBirdOHermes]

Don't blame me I copied that from the official... "official"... "official"??? Alien wiki

[@TheBirdOHermes]

2009Bandman I have already touched this comment

[@zeratul____1228]

And you can see how how badly Ridley fucked up the timeline with Android: Covenant.

[@MP-uk1yc]

The movie was just meh for me. Very predictable all the way through including the end twist. on it's own it was just an ok action/horror, but as part of the Alien franchise it was definitely below par.

[@blaze270284]

Yeah. Predictable. It's like a common alien movie. Loved prometheus better.

[@iattacku2773]

M every movie after aliens was below par. It's like after the second movie they ran out of good ideas

[@Sixstringman]

Every movie after Aliens was NOT directed by James Cameron. Thats why they will always suck in comparison.

[@TheSkepticalPanda]

Very much how I felt. A lot of the suspense was gone due to the heavy foreshadowing and a lot of the action/mayhem being shown in the trailers.

[@gudeschorle3805]

James, those KZbin Videos you couldn't find are called "Alien: Covenant | Prologue: The Crossing" and "Alien: Covenant | Prologue: Last Supper".

[@Real_McKinley]

And "The Red Shoe Diaries"

[@blimeyolimey8762]

I hate that Mike talks over James for a lot of this, and all he is doing is repeating himself over! I’d love to see James with a team like RLM, people he really clicks on screen with and is on his wavelength!

[@Dakkss]

It was impossible to take this movie seriously when two different characters slip on the same puddle of blood within a minute of each other. The crew is dumber than the teens an your average slasher flick.

[@KaijuFanatic-fq7dy]

I actually liked this movie

[@Krokodilius]

the only transformers i ever cares about was Beast Wars. very limited on humans, you just watch the robots war.

[@MrVolcomclassic]

ryan phillips Beast wars was cool. Love that episode with the golden disc showing the original megatrons message.

[@TheWinni2011]

Mike hated it, James liked it. I agree with Mike. It's a mess of a movie

[@dyllanrodriguez2828]

TheWinni2011 I actually liked it because I took it for what it was and where the plot was going. Like everyone was so mad cuz of the whole prometheus thing and I get that but that part of the story is not going to be explained I feel. Its going to be what the origin of the aliens use to be like this unknown thing in the universe that we may never get an answer to. And thats cool I dont mind that. This movie to me was a pretty cool follow up to Prometheus

[@lanhikari87]

David saved this movie. Most Alien movies are just the typical "something went wrong, now theres zombies" plot. And this movie has that ultra stupid plot until david shows up and stop it. From then on, its a much better movie, witht the intrigue of david there, and its not just stupid humans getting cut down.

[@Diabolo2014]

Mike is so stuck in the past

[@wildmansamurai3663]

TheWinni2011 Genius movie

[@wildcatpeace]

It’s so fucking horrible... one of the biggest disappointments in years. There’s no way this movie wasn’t given up on half way through filming.

[@jamescobham6558]

I was disappointed that they didn't go further with the engineers like they promised at the end Prometheus , instead we have one quick scene of David killing them almost like they wanna be done with the engineers closing that plot line and just have aliens now, but who knows maybe they will be explored in future films i think that would be entertaining .But in the end i was entertained during the film.

[@yjm_strat7134]

james cobham Exactly. There's a lot of questions about the Engineers that I want answered because of Prometheus; and that's why Prometheus is so brilliant.

[@jordancardenas7564]

They cant expand the engineers story because the last engineer was killed in Prometheus thus not being able to explain also the movie is about the Aliens not about engineers. The engineers was just a reason for the Alien story to kick off, humans find advanced civilization in space they find advanced civilization(engineers) but stumble across another species(Aliens) in space that begins to spread and now its up to humans to stop it from getting into evil humans who want to use the Alien species as a weapon

[@eddie777ish]

The friendship between these two is admirable

[@Zatzzo]

I've seen millions of star trek episodes with them walking around on unknown planets without any kind of helmets or anything, why is no one ever complaining about that? Could anyone please explain this to me? And it's not just Star Trek, it's basically the entire science fiction genre. Why are people all of a sudden acting like this is the dumbest thing anyone has ever done in a movie?

[@Zorlac]

If you saw them you know already. They scan the planets before they go down to see if it has an atmosphere they can breathe.

[@handsomebrick]

It's because they had people wearing helmets and then taking them off. If you look at Star Trek, they have people not wearing helmets but they also have aliens everywhere who all look like humans and can have children with humans, they have people with psychic powers, the computers look like old mainframes from the 1950s, the ships all go on the same plane for no reason, everyone just ignores that because it's not what the story is about.

[@Zatzzo]

@@kennymendoza1581 they don't wear helmets in alien covenant.

[@serialkiller88]

i think this movie shows that ridley scott doesn't want to do more alien movies, it shows that he is into the creation and the origin of humanity and that he or maybe the producers pushed the alien factor into a movie that has nothing to do with the alien saga. Just allow him to make a movie about the genesis of the bible or the sumerian theory or something like that. i know he'll knock it out of the park.

[@OilFreeFeathers]

You should watch his interviews then because you are wrong on all points.

[@Phyrrax]

You are partly wrong. Nothing was pushed onto Scott. Like James said, there was a plan to make a real Alien 3 with Ripley. And it was supposed to be directed by the District 9 director (Neil Bloemkamp), while Scott was supposed to continue Prometheus. There was already some story art and a rough draft of the script as far as I understand it and Sigourney was totally on board. I think the situation was that Scott was afraid that someone would take the franchise away from him and it being better than Prometheus. So he said, fuck that this is my baby...so he changed his mind. And him coming of The Martian, the studio gave him the double thumbs up for his movie. So it was more Scott pushing it on himself.

[@TheRestartPoint]

Yes but then he would risk it being financially unsuccessful, without the Alien attachment. It's either he or the studio (or both?) that realise this.

[@TonyOneBlairoby]

But didn't he already made an other movie franchise on that subject? One that is also going to have a sequel.

[@vrapbrap]

This is the vibe I have been getting too. He seems to do everything pretty well that isn't about the aliens. So...he really just needs to make his original movie or something so he can get really creative and challenge himself.

[@FizzleFX]

*you know a movie aint good, if there start TRANSFOMERS COMPARISONS XD*

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

Thats the weird thing about a lot of movies (and games as well) the trailers just look better than the actual films themselves, even though they are just incoherent snippets of a film usually lol

[@darthvaderraider2946]

can we get a Resident Evil series review by James

[@dicknavis00]

I like how James appreciated the cinematic creativity that the film actually had and talked about the different aspects of the plot vs. the subject matter and Mike was how he always is about everything...."it wasn't made at least 20 years ago so its fucking garbage."

[@charlied7845]

Mike's right though, Covenant was absolute garbage. That's why they're not making any more alien films. It was so bad that it literally killed the franchise.

[@drquantum6548]

The Neill Blomkamp movie would have been awesome. It will probably not happen.. :(

[@borregoimages8117]

You're talking out of your ass… Then explain why, Chappie and Elysium were such utter pieces of shit movies? And how could HE have made this movie better when he's only made one good film thus far in life.

[@Savra]

At least the basic plot was not a carbon copy of the original.

[@kovy4win]

Emmanuel Correia the movie was fucken terrible...whats to like?

[@Weird_but_neat]

Frank Borrego district 9 wasn't just a "good" movie It was a fucking masterpiece

[@Chickengirl005]

eh, District 9 is one of my all time favorite sci-fi movies, but Elysium and Chappie were pretty mediocre. Dunno what happened, but Blomkamp can't write a decent script anymore. I thought Chappie would be batter with Terri Tatchell being a co-writer again, but nope. Honestly including fucking Die Antwood and having Hugh Jackman being this ridiculous 1 dimensional bad guy is what ruined the whole movie for me. It's a shame because I liked Chappie by himself, and the CGI of him was mind blowing. SO in other words, I doubt Blomkamp would have saved this Alien movie.

[@dino339]

*alien movie with new ideas comes out* fans: oh NOH!!! they ruined the movie!! *alien movie with classic ideas* fans: oh NoH!! Same old thing!! Predictable!!

[@Reggie1408]

Have you thought about that they might not be the excact same fans?

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

This movie was worse than Prometheus, it has nothing on Alien 3.

[@leob4403]

Nah better than Prometheus

[@angusng816]

I would rather watch Exodus: Gods and Kings over Alien: Covenant even though it was better than Prometheus.

[@hankheavy]

Nothing wrong with him. He got good taste unlike you.

[@eLiFILMSinc]

Damn right

[@masterdoan]

agree prometheus much muuuuch better

[@christophersheffield9574]

"I thought it was kind of a mess" my thoughts exactly.

[@Elmsmore]

alien covenant last supper and alien covenant prologue are KZbin exclusives.

[@NAPH170]

The YT video that sets up the crew for Alien Covenant is called Alien Covenant last supper, if anyone wants to see it.

[@DecoyAUT]

I agree so much more with Mike than with James, no offense. Also hated the focus on Androids. Angry Joe said it right, it's David: Covenant

[@NexileBaxter]

There aren't any Xenomorphs in this movie. Neomorphs and a Protomorph, why doesnt anyone get this? It's not the perfect organism yet.

[@kylethedalek]

Did it even get mentioned in the movie?

[@trekadam30]

The "Bayformers" movies, is like if the "rock jock" version of the Transformers theme song, that came out when Rodimus joined the cast, spontaneously turned into a movie franchise. Lol.

[@no-3607]

Also serious comment: I feel like there is a lot more Giger in the prequels though. People are not talking about about the Geiger. Shawls dead body was a Giger panting. The art on the walls were Giger. They are giving us the Giger. That you have to respect that about the newer films.

[@borregoimages8117]

Heck, I think one of the biggest scrapped ideas was James Franco's performance in the movie. There's a scene in the trailer where you can tell he would be playing a key role but for whatever reason, they torch him in the pod and thats it! You can tell he would have had a bigger role because they opted for a a cameo bit in the picture frame for like 17 seconds… lmao, laaaaame.

[@mattsmith2115]

Woulda been better to see it was Franco before he was torched. Coulda been funnier than Segal getting pitched out of the plane in Executive Decision.

[@jacknight4856]

they did that with Bryan Cranston in that Godzilla movie

[@JuliusSP1]

i think alien and terminator are both a good bit better than their sequels. I think the sequels are among the best sequels ever made, but still there's a larger gap b/w the original films and the sequels than people realize...I think especially with Terminator 2 but also with Aliens that this is the case.

[@AlexJonesGaming]

The facehugger in Covenant is fresh and new so it can hatch a lot faster opposed to the original movie where they’ve been lying dormant for possibly centuries

[@AtariDad]

Sheesh James, you have an entire legion of fans at your disposal! If you needed to find a video, you should've just Tweeted that you were looking for it, we woulda hooked you up!

[@PositronPlays]

These movies have all been generally visually fantastic, but they keep repeating the same character mistakes to the point of frustration.

[@porkfrog2785]

'face hugger' is such a cutesy euphemism for what's really happening there...like the little bugger should get reported to human resources instead of SVU

[@jillsandwich5684]

The instant David decided to cut his hair...anybody with a brain knew the ending.

[@alexl.4362]

They should've just made a comedy of it with Franco and McBride in the movie.

[@yappojilla]

so they find space weed on the planet? :P

[@moogmanxandersmotovlogs29]

buffalo stu they had to go to Juniper for space weed

[@alexl.4362]

buffalo stu​ Yes..Much better movie..Plus Actually kill those Xenomorphs. They are not that strong.

[@thatgamerguy1982]

rather the movie was bad or just ok....mike and James can do movie reviews just right...better then that AJ movie reviews.

[@johnlawful2272]

Oscar agreed ,but his games reviews are on. point

[@thatgamerguy1982]

ohyeah true AJ's video game reviews r good actually

[@Esssential]

I hope James Franco gets an Oscar for his lengthy role

[@squidcorps]

Just so you guys know, there is an Alien: Covenant prequel novel coming out, in August. It is going to be about events that transpired right before the movie, and really delve into the stories of all the characters who were seen in the movie.

[@MoejiiOsmanTV]

this movie was sooo disapointing....i primarily got into the ALIEN series to learn the back story of the xenomorphs and who created them so when prometheus came out they did that for me and i ENJOYED prometheus even tho alot of people hated it...but then this movie covenent was supposed to tell us more about the engineers and tell us how they created humans - well this movie FAILED at all of that...this was such a disapointment this movie was all about david and HIS creating story and solved nothing about the back story about tthe engineers

[@kraheharding219]

"Supposed" to my ass, you are just butthurt you couldn't predict it

[@SSZaris]

James and Mike need to do a colab with RLM

[@JarofMayonaise]

From the time the person who was face-hugged wakes up to when the alien comes out depends on the alien type. It appears to only take an hour or two from the time they wake up to when it pops out the chest with soldier aliens (regular). In Alien 3, Ripley seems to take a few days to pop, but that's because it's a queen. We never got to see a facehugger succeed in Aliens, and it seems from Resurrection, it is also only a few hours because they are all soldier aliens. We never get to see the queen which came from Ripley.

[@oolong2]

Did anyone else notice that Walter basically had the same voice as Bishop? At least it seemed like Fassbender was basically mimicking the same voice. I thought that was a really cool nice touch.

[@Marinealver]

It's a mess and that is not wrong. Nothing more to see folks.

[@marten4975]

I like how everyone asumes they killed the xenomorph mythos. All that we experienced were David's hybrids, not the actual xenomorph it self. Also prometheus had wall murals depicting xenomorphs or xenomorphs-like lifeforms in the space jockey's spaceship. So we still don't know who or what made them or where they came from.

[@philipbossy4834]

The time delay after a facehugger gets you is kind of critical. It's what set up the iconic scene of the original movie. Without the gestation time and the recovery of the host you wouldn't have the whole crew eating around a table to witness the xenomorph bursting out of the chest. Instead it would have happened in the med-bay with one or two witness.

[@CodenameNovacaine]

Isn't below par a good thing? At least with Golf.

[@joekerr1763]

C'mon it wasn't _that_ bad. Fassbender's double role was really the most enjoyable part of the movie.

[@Breadfan14]

Thanks Mike!! You've summed it up for me in one sentence!! It looked more like a Sci-fi android movie rather than an Alien horror one .. that was also my feeling after I'd watched it

[@BlackArroToons]

Still wondering about the Engineers flashback. That scene was left to the imagination as to why they were there.

[@ikmnification5737]

This movie is Ridley Scott exploring more of the androids with hints at what's happening/happened on earth (Blade Runner). He initially said the xenomorph's story was over and decided to make a movie about the space jockey. After Prometheus, he realized people (and the studio) wanted more Alien in the movies. So I think he put enough Alien in this movie to get his budget, but tried to explore untouched areas in the franchise.

[@Sizifus]

The way Dr. Shaw died by the David's hand was really disturbing. It would have been such an interesting continuation on how David's and Shaw's relationship grew until finale where she is killed and the engineers destroyed. A psychological thriller about how David descended into complete madness and disregard of any life that is deemed by him "Beneath him" (Waylon's notion)

[@iiiiii1449]

We can debate about the quality of each sequel but I enjoyed this one the least of all. AVP not included.

[@mro9466]

considering the time they had to make convenant and the story of prometheus they could continue, this movie is even worse than Alien 3

[@miguellee3]

@Cinemassacre, you should really change the name of this video to "discussion" instead of review. James didn't really get to expand on his thoughts of the movie, Danny McBride, new female lead and androids. Just kept getting interrupted by Mike's thoughts and other ideas. I would love to hear an actual review from James, Monster Madness style!

[@Omgtired]

AvP 1 was great action movie to my mind, it doesn't pretend to be philosphical or smth, it is what it is AvP action with some ppl invovled, but it was GREAT.

[@My-Name-Isnt-Important]

Neill Blomkamp was wanting to ignore Alien 3 and 4 and do a sequel to Aliens. Sigourney Weaver is the one who actually approached Blomkamp on the set of Chappie. After doing voice work for the video game Alien Isolation, Weaver was really interested in the daughter character and wanting to go back to the Alien films. Fox was all on board and even Michael Biehn was willing to return as the character Hicks, but Ridley Scott wanted to fix what was wrong about Prometheus and so Fox decided to abandon the Neill Blomkamp Aliens sequel, in favor of Ridley Scott. Unfortunately, we will never have that film, since Blomkamp has moved on to another project.

[@kidsundance3970]

People you gotta love Alien 3 it's good !!!

[@scottiethompson9315]

No.

[@Belegur13]

Probably the best KZbin review I've seen for this movie so far, aside from Chris Stuckmann's. As for the chestburster gestating too fast, I can only presume that Ridley Scott was glossing over the period of time that had elapsed.

[@DFCZE]

Oh cmon, Alien 3 wasn't that bad, nor was Resurrection.

[@joshuaclayburn8350]

There a little silly and stupid but entertaining and thats all that matters

[@HardcoreMetal89]

The movie was garbage.

[@Geek_Chorus]

You guys missed a major plot hole. It's mentioned that The Covenant is not designed to land, so this MASSIVE ship, with 2,000 colonists, tons of supplies, equipment, even pre fab housing, has just one dinky little drop ship that holds about 10 people? How long would it take to get everything planet-side? 50 years? What if they have to abandon ship? What if the drop ship malfunctions? Would they just be stuck on the ship forever?? That's like a huge cruise ship having only one 10 person life raft.

[@_spacemanSpiff_]

It was probably explained in the comments but to answer Mikes question regarding the gestation period for the aliens. These are a different species entirely from the traditional Xenomorphs hence the different birthing stages and growth. If you ever read the comics there is tons of different breeds and birthing of multiple species.

[@thtkidfrmvab]

Prometheus > Alien 3 > Covenant

[@Naddoddur]

It always surprises me how casual James is with movies.

[@Over_Toasted]

To revamp the series, they should make a new Alien that ignores it being a created thing. The best part about Alien and Aliens is that no one knew what the alien was and where it came from. I like the idea of it being an invasive pimitive species that came from a distant planet and was foolishly brought to another place. If they go back to that, it brings the suspense aspect back.

[@coleslack370]

alien 3 is honestly underrated, people act like its as bad as resurrection but its a pretty well made film aside from the terrible special effects on the alien wouldnt say its a great film but i would put it above covenant, there was almost nothing liked about this film but the cinematography

[@RichardMajor86]

I think the film is too much an Alien prequel and not enough a Prometheus sequel

[@Ryukend3n]

dear james, those youtube clips are called alien : covenant prologues. "Alien: Covenant | Prologue: The Crossing" and "Alien: Covenant | Prologue: Last Supper" to be exact.

[@figureheaduk]

Regarding the use of hypersleep (or whatever you want to call it) rather than interstellar warp speed in the "Alien" series, in the novelizations of the original films it's mentioned that faster-than-light speeds have now become the norm, but even at these speeds it can still take years to get from Earth to these distant parts of the galaxy, hence the use of hibernation.

[@danada45]

Im ok with the reviews without Mike. Anybody?

[@wildcatpeace]

Why? Videos without him are great, videos with him are great. We get lots of both.

[@Descalabro]

In this review he was much more straightforward than James in saying exactly what sucked about the movie. James was trying too hard to find qualities in this movie.

[@tyranthate]

i really like Mike, he is funny and smart, but sometimes may be would be better not make reviews about movies he doesn´t care or he does not know much about it.

[@filyblunt2572]

Didn't mind this one, but the "shock" ending was so obviously coming from about half way through, and they kinda set up the survivor chick from Prometheus to be the next Ripley type character but than it was just like oh yeh she's dead.

[@ghostdog2041]

I think the most popular critique of a Ridley Scott film is, "...well... it looked really nice."

[@derajnitram1882]

It really is sad how franchise films are treated now, instead of crafting a good film with good characters, you get an ok at best movie that looks great visually, with talented actors that make this garbage seem way more watchable.

[@SangTheCryptek]

To be fair, Mike, the idea of solar sails has been around long before DS9 used them in the episode 'Explorers'. Then again, I didn't see the Alien movie, so I don't know if the design of the sails looks exactly like the Bajoran ship.

[@karras6239]

That starting clip was a confirmed delted scene, its still there, but as a "crew" trailer

[@trippplefive]

Prometheus was good... Covenant was pretty shitty.

[@robwallace4992]

you guys are HALF WITS this movie was garbage. ALL THE SCENES THAT EXPLAIN THE MOVIE TO FANS WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE OF DECENT SCI FI ENDED ON THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR.

[@riggel8804]

I feel like these two are speaking two different languages: James wants to do an in depth analysis and exoplore some of the the scifi elements; Mike wants to talk about the look of the movie and how it compares to other movies. I don't think they complement each other well.

[@thomashcullen8669]

Like the Tom Ford film Nocturnal Animals, Alien Covenant is the means to destroying the Second World War, cancelling its existence. This is because Alien Covenant is a story about the dichotomy of an original needing to destroy its replication, but not having the power to

[@kidsundance3970]

C'mon people!!! stop comparing these movies with the oldies. Never again we will see such good movies so for todays standards this movie rules, for me at least. I'm 32 years old

[@Scaran1982]

The movie is an utter disappointment.

[@thelunchlady8276]

Am I the only person in the world that liked Alien 3?

[@fractalequation]

rewatch it, it's probably not as good as you remember

[@thelunchlady8276]

I watched it last month with my 11 yo daughter and we both loved it. We watched all four before we went and saw the new one. (I don't count AVP as an Alien movie) Love the Dark Horse Alien comics too! My daughter calls the alien in 3 the dog alien.

[@pyrobison2002]

James Miller my favorite, and the only one i can watch over and over

[@darqen666]

With regards to the time of the alien hatching, the time may not even clear in alien however thinking back to aliens re: Burke. Even though it's a deleted scene, when ripley finds Burke he implies the alien is hatching and that was not a long timeframe from when he was taken

[@jackfranks7160]

Miss and need more of these two. They balance each other so well.

[@Maverick.D.]

Bunch of crybabies in the comments section... Movie was awesome imo...

[@thebatman4279]

Congratulations on having Danny DeVito-sized standards.

[@pyrobison2002]

Maverick D. No

[@jayyarbrough4497]

It's ok to be wrong. No worries