My personal opinion... if you like your whiskey neat unchilled... Proper 12 is the better choice for those of us want a smooth easy drinking whiskey.
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudiesАй бұрын
Or just want to get drunk for very little money.
@stacieh40233 жыл бұрын
I tried Proper Twelve before I knew anything about the whiskey or McGregor. Ended up using it for a mixer and it was still tough to finish the bottle. It’s a good $18 whiskey that sells for $29 in Ohio. With Jameson, Powers Gold, Paddy’s, and Tully all selling for less, I’ll never buy it again.
@joecity-rp20932 жыл бұрын
Irish boy from Dublin here. Powers, Paddy's and Tully's is absolute muck (shite) compared to Jemmy
@WhiskyNeighbour4 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. I have not done this direct head to head, but I have been surprised by Jameson over the years. Not a bad, affordable whiskey!
@RAnthis4 жыл бұрын
I think the marketing of P12 has definitely helped its popularity, but it has a tough road ahead if it wants to compete with Jameson. There's a reason why it's king of the budget Irish. I got into whiskey through Jameson because when someone suggested sipping instead of shooting like I would a rum, I was shocked that a spirit could actually be enjoyed slowly and by itself, not in a cocktail. Its still an enjoyable go to after a more expensive dram. However I'm going to really shake things up and say my favorite budget Irish is actually Tullamore Dew. Great video as always Mr. Eric. Look forward to more!
@kirbyculp34494 жыл бұрын
Go for the Clontarf. Clontarf tastes like the Dew did about 10 years ago.
@RAnthis4 жыл бұрын
@@kirbyculp3449 $28 bucks for 1.75L locally, that's either a great deal or some really horrible stuff lol
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
Jameson is the #1 selling Irish whiskey in the world - ALL brands would have a tough time competing with them.
@voyer19993 жыл бұрын
I’m no expert, however I am a bit of an alcoholic. Not a fancy whiskey snob. These are two of my favorites. I must say Jame is slightly sweeter, and I’ve NEVERtasted vanilla in Jameson. Proper is very drinkable and smooth in my taste and not as sweet with a strong vanilla note.
@HeyBigChriss2 жыл бұрын
I like Proper Twelve better.
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies2 жыл бұрын
okayyyyy
@ronaldvoigt6761 Жыл бұрын
Have you or will you do a review on the bushmills Shelby prohibition era whiskey?
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies Жыл бұрын
I am currently studying to become a Master of Scotch so I am only doing Scotch whisky through 2024.
@ronaldvoigt6761 Жыл бұрын
@@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies OK good sir! I'll not interfere with a man's education even if it means studying the addition of Mudd to otherwise wonderful whiskey. Say additionally Canada and Montana have collaborated on a whiskey called "the devils brigade" it is comprised in content to match force breakdown at the time which was 60 % Americans and 40% Canadians so the juice is bottled the same at 42 abv which is an omage to the v42 dagger that was issued to them. It is argued the devils brigade was the first ever special forces unit in the world a certainly the first in the western hemisphere. The hooch is being released in separate batches individually whilst each batch is representative of an individual team member. The bourbon is made and bottled at wiles's distilleries in ennis Mt. I am unsure of the Canadian portion but by my pallette I think it's the crown. Anyhow it's really good stuff for its budget range and the history of it and behind it would make for a great video for someone of your quality to do, and if you do let me know, can't find a bottle also let me know and I'll arrange it for you. Thanks much and enjoy that muddy whiskey!!!
@bongson6914 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric I gained a lot of respect for you 💯 after the night you joined sam, who got plastered and passed out. I know a gentleman when I see one, you stayed to almost the end until she passed out for a while, and you signed off, great you -tuber,I was already a subscriber, but now I watch every single video. I have a lot of respect for you Sir 💯 I think she said they had lost a lot of subscribers, and others did too, but not me. I like 👍 to watch Bobby and Sam, and will continue watching 👀 forever, thanks for all you do for us subscribers, you give out more than you take, and I love seeing what is next for your reviews, cheers Eric, I'm not a big fan of Irish whiskey but I like your reviews no matter what !!!
@stingrae7893 жыл бұрын
Did an Irish blind tasting. This was in a line up with Sexton, Red Spot, Hyde No 5 and a sneaky Chivas XV. I actually disliked the Red Spot and Picked the proper Twelve as my favorite for the evening followed closely by Chivas XV and Hyde no 5. I think knowing what it is has a pretty big impact. While most picked Chivas as their favourite, proper Twelve was often a close second. A few did pick Red Spot but it wasn't as clear cut as you'd have thought. I personally felt the hyde no 5 was the better daily drink (has a slight similar note to Clynelish) but the richness and complexity of Chivas and Proper Twelve were surprising. Maybe on a different night things would have been different but I revisited the Red Spot and while it's ok it is harsh and has a strong vanilla/banana note which makes it a decidingly one note whisky for me. In terms of what I'd reach for it would be Proper Twelve it is just an excellent value proposition... Having also had Jamesons when out, I can't say I enjoyed it as much but it did deliver a clearer apple note. In all fairness it was my go to in uni when I knew nothing about whisky.
@cliffnorman1784 жыл бұрын
I always thought Jamesons was definitely one of the worst whiskies of all time, but now it is better than one other whiskey. Thanks again for such an honest and professional comparison.
@RasmusDyhrFrederiksen4 жыл бұрын
For the price Jameson is very decent - if you are into triple distilled Irish Whiskeys - IMHO.
@ScullyPop4 жыл бұрын
Here for this wonderful installment.
@MrChristopherMolloy4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a series on your favorite single malts under $30?
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@MrChristopherMolloy4 жыл бұрын
@@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies $30 is pushing it, but it can be done. Here's a list of under $40 malts (and one high-quality blend)... Glengoyne 10 Ardbeg 5 Bunnahabhain Stiuireadair Loch Lomand 12 Glenmorangie 10 Deanston Virgin Oak Gordon Graham's Black Bottle Blended Scotch (43%) Glen Fohdry French Oak Cask (Total Wine Exclusive)
@steveno70584 жыл бұрын
How many single malts go for $30 in the USA? Two?
@MrChristopherMolloy4 жыл бұрын
@@steveno7058 Not counting places like Total Wine, Trader Joe's, Aldi, or Costco, and not mentioning Mystery Malts like Finlaggan or Dun Bheaghan which are widely available, or Sale Items, here's a list off the top of my head. .. Loch Lomand Original Speyburn Brandan Orach The entire Glen Moray Elgin Classic range (Classic, Sherry, Port, Chardonnay, Cabernet Sauvignon) Deanston Virgin Oak Tomatin Dulchas Glen Moray 12 Loch Lomand 12 Aerstone Land Cask 10 Aerstone Sea Cask 10 The Singleton 12 Bowmore Small Batch Auchentoshan American Oak 😁
@steveno70584 жыл бұрын
I’d hate for Eric to waste money on some of those terrible malts. The Deanston is good though. Most places those don’t go for $30
@michaelhassler74464 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your opinion on this match up. I was always wondering what you might think about it, as I have seen a few videos going both ways on the two whiskeys, and listened to McGregor say Proper 12 was better. I haven't tried them side by side, but if I do, I would like to do it blind. One of the videos that I saw about Proper 12 stated the same thing that you said about it, could use some aging. I would still like to know how to get you things too? Thanks again Erik!!!🤘
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! I actually did this video at YOUR request!
@chriscuts70292 жыл бұрын
Well no shit Conor said it was better
@michaelgonzalez3473 жыл бұрын
I like the comparison between bottles. Enjoy the reviews of single bottles but like the ranking if you will between a few types.
@steveno70584 жыл бұрын
Great video! Head to heads are great to do. I was surprised which dram I enjoyed more doing head to heads. And even better is doing a blind head to head.
@markveganism50033 жыл бұрын
I like Tullimore dew ,where does that rate against these 2 ? ..I'm put off the proper 12 now lol
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies3 жыл бұрын
I would say Tullamore DEW is a step above both of these.
@ProfessorUFC2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies hell no, Proper 12 and Jameson are leagues above Tullamore Dew
@steveamsp4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Proper 12 is improving... it's gone from "actively offensive" to "meh" When I tried Proper 12 my initial thought was it was horrible, but I could see that it might turn into something at least decent given more time to age. Sounds like it's on that path, at least.
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
I may have been overly kind it describing it simply as "meh." But, I was trying very hard not to allow my opinion of Conner McGregor affect my perception of the whiskey.
@steveamsp4 жыл бұрын
@@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies Fair enough. I didn't really have a perspective on him, myself. I am interested to see what it turns into in a couple more years. Seems likely that the first batches went out the door right at 3 years to even get on the market, so if they're slowly holding some barrels back to mix in and get some more age on, it does seem to have some potential to me.
@everwind56914 жыл бұрын
I find comparison reviews very helpful, especially if the products are at similar price points and market niche because that is how I shop..
@neilmontgomery3470 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with Jameson, it has been the whiskey of the Irish people for a long time and what you are most likely to see Irish people drinking in pubs. Much nicer than most similarly priced blended Scotch whisky.
@joewas22253 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how you compare whiskey or anything else. Never in your head but right in front of you. Because you're right, you will be surprised. Mind can play tricks & you gotta avoid that.
@jaybrown75423 жыл бұрын
Really liked the video it was easy to understand for a beginner like myself. Thanks
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@gilbertocasalettipage25604 жыл бұрын
Erik! Do we know for sure where the whiskey in proper 12 is distilled? I thought the whiskey came from the Middleton distillery?
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure it all comes from one distillery.
@SFitzgerald244 жыл бұрын
It's commonly thought to be a young Bushmills, But Bushmills I believe source all their grain (un-aged) spirit from Middelton. That being said the newer Proper 12 could be from West Cork distillery or GND(Great Northern Distillery)
@gilbertocasalettipage25604 жыл бұрын
@@SFitzgerald24 thanks!
@ProfessorUFC2 жыл бұрын
I love them both
@TheMassiveMossy4 жыл бұрын
Good to see this comparison.
@AdvantureRoad7 ай бұрын
Tastes are subjective, so take it with a grain of salt. In my opinion, Proper 12 has a lot more going on in the flavor department, and the price keeps it as my daily work horse. Side by side, the Jameson tastes more watered down. Islay Scotches are my absolute favorite, but I can’t afford to come home, turn up the radio and smash a bottle of Ardveg or Laphroig.
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@UsedBrain4U4 жыл бұрын
That was one of the kindest assessments of Proper 12 that I have ever seen. P12 tends to get ripped by reviews. But, when you are comparing it within its own class the difference is less pronounced...it still lost head to head. Thank you Erik for drinking so I don't need to.
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
There is a temptation to allow the personality and misbehavior of Conor McGregor to become a distraction and allow one's negative opinion of him affect your perception of the whiskey. I tried VERY hard to ignore him and only mention him in brief and just focus on the whiskey. I think some previous bottlings may have been rushed to market in order to take advantage of the publicity of his fight with Mayweather. So, later releases might be a little better. But, generally I agree with others that there are many better whiskies on the market in the same price range.
@beesac4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison, I don’t think I’ll ever try Proper 12 (Mma fan but don’t want to support Connor). Always great content, could you do a Redbreast 12 & Yellowspot comparison? Cheers 🥃
@ilivelife69064 жыл бұрын
Np 10 percent of every bottle goes to charity
@TheJdm22034 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, Sir!!! GREAT comparison!! Fantastic editing!!
@joeyjuandiaz6195 Жыл бұрын
Is actually thee opposite the Jameson is simple boring the proper 12 edges it by its complexity and oak taste charred. In bourbon barrels was the key
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies Жыл бұрын
okayyyyyy
@joeyjuandiaz6195 Жыл бұрын
@@ErikWaitWhiskyStudiesI prefer the Jameson Black Barrell thoe is charred in bourbon barrels aswell love it.
@TripleBerg4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect much from the Proper 0.
@BrianKirby_The1andOnly4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't quite bring yourself to get the full sized bottle of the Proper 12... Quite frankly, I don't blame you 😊
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
This was not on my original itinerary for my Irish Whiskey Marathon but a subscriber requested I do this video so.... I paid as little as possible.
@kirbyculp34494 жыл бұрын
If I can find a 'mini' then I will have a sample of the P12. On an aside, the Fistfull of Bourbon was wretched. I poured out half of the 'mini'.
@benrobson11774 жыл бұрын
Never tried Proper Twelve (I dislike Connor Mcgregor so I’m a bit biased). I’d try for free, if the opportunity came up. On a separate note, I think Irish whiskey has the best quality ratio in the budget category. It has way more options than Scotch or Bourbon in my opinion
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
I would not buy Proper 12 or waste any time on it. I did the review because a subscriber requested it.
@2013TombRaider3 жыл бұрын
Turns out proper twelve is just as fake as it’s founder 😂
@erwinlarranaga81284 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of either. In that price range I'm reaching for Kilbrin Sherry Cask Finish.
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
I've seen some bottles of Kilbrin at a local TW&M, it is a is a sourced brand (as is Proper 12). For this current study I am trying to focusing on learning distilleries and their core brands and bottlings. I did this review because a subscriber requested it.
@TheVeganeater4 жыл бұрын
Thin meek not much going on just like Connor
@MrChristopherMolloy4 жыл бұрын
None of the above ✌️
@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies4 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@ClownWhisper3 жыл бұрын
i am a distiller with 35 years under my belt.... where in the hell would these fruit no7es come from for the love of God? i use only to quality grains, I malt myself, I use all copper equipment I never use anything but my own developed yeast cultures, I triple distill and always throw away twice what is necessary to eliminate lighter schools . btw something that commercial distilleries don't even do! MY WHISKEY puts Jamieson to shame. every sip makes you want another.