This is the method Steve uses for working with his Dreams

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Jung To Live By

Jung To Live By

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@TheRealK33N
@TheRealK33N 4 жыл бұрын
This was tremendously insightful, thank you for sharing.
@jungtolivebyafterdark
@jungtolivebyafterdark 4 жыл бұрын
Blessings @Kieran Monaghan, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline.
@entschnabler
@entschnabler 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you for that. I love how you always make sure to alert people to be careful when experimenting with those matters. I had two experiences hunting down the unconcious / my dream where I got a signal that I now would interpret as a big NO from the unconcious. Both times my method was first writing down the dream while simultaneously noting associations that popped up, also kind of interpreting a bit while doing so, also writing that down. now here is the thing for me: first time I felt having direct contact with the unconcious (during a guided meditation on youtube) I got a warm and lovely shiver throughout my body for a clear YES. now while working with the two dreams mentioned they were pretty scary nightmares that gave me the creeps (gruseln in german). and the signal I received while writing them down was a repetion of that exact negative cold shiver (grusel). so I just thought: well, often enough I heard something like "go where your fear is"... and I used the signal as indication of going the "right" way. in the first dream I started rewriting the dream where I was in something like a castle and I knew a ghostly woman was going around like a midnights ritual, where she would go around the castle like on a track. and I wrote myself going down to her. and the feeling that it gave me that i continued to ignore was something like the social outrage one would provoke when jumping on a theater stage during the play and interacting with the characters / actors. like an actress the ghost woman was shocked. the second time was worse. It was like you mentioned in the video: after analyzing the actual situation a bit I would write myself to check out that half open door in the office I was in and just write myself to go through it, which was not content of the dream. after that I just went whatever direction would give me the creeps again. the further I got - deciding stuff like whether to go up or down the staircase and choosing by which option would give me the creeps - the creeps grew much more intense to the point where I actually had intense physical pain in my stomach. I already pictured myself being found dead in front of a crazy dream analysis word document :D funny thing is in the end I opened up a box in an attic and the moment I opened it it felt like something quickly swapped the contents so I would not have to look at that which would completely blow me away. Later I told the story to a friend and he casually assumed: yea, probably it was your self in that box. at that moment i felt like slowly leaving my body and when I realized that it felt like I had to quickly flap my mindly wings to get back and immediately dismissed the topic :D actually I felt a bit like that now sinking back into it. all the best to anyone who read all this! cheers
@theimaginarium
@theimaginarium 2 жыл бұрын
I also agree that certain "post Jungians" seem to have gone so far "post" that I really don't know why they bother with associating with Jung at all. Very weird.
@JungToLiveBy
@JungToLiveBy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi again Dr Goodwyn, I think it quite likely that the future of Jungian psychology, isn't with the Jungians, but rather with a new-wave of interdisciplinary clinicians, academics and researchers, who have been working synchronously towards a common goal for the past 30 years or so. The fruit of their labor is taking hold amongst some of the finest young minds of these times. Its something that Franz Jung would have approved of. Kindest Regards, Steve 🙏
@ILikeFeelingElectric
@ILikeFeelingElectric 4 жыл бұрын
I often have that experience when I’m trying to go to sleep. I’ll be in that state except I’ve never thought to try to remember a dream. Typically, as soon as I become conscious of the process, I snap out of it. Very interesting method. I’ll attempt it the next time I remember a significant dream.
@seanboi
@seanboi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for all the work that you do. I really took in what Pauline said about the avoidance of demanding things from the unconscious in the form of dreams which is something that I think I myself have been guilty of recently. But I'll now try a more receptive approach with dreams and see what there is to be gained from them. Thanks again for the videos that the three of you are making & hope you're all keeping well.
@jungtolivebyafterdark
@jungtolivebyafterdark 4 жыл бұрын
@@gep5395 Blessings Friend, see you at the Seminar on Sunday, Steve and Pauline.
@AdderB
@AdderB 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this timely episode. I recently started to analyse a series of dreams I had during a six month period of intense personal development. It coincided with the global quarantine. The decision to wait was guided by a "gut feeling", and I now see that it was correct - as it often is, in my case. I do not yet know, if the time between having the dream and analysing it, matters for the unconscious. I suspect, that dreams do not have a "best before date" (unless something dramatic happens to the dreamer), but do not know for certain. For me, the time in between, gave me much needed tools and experience with which to analyse the dreams. Respectfully, AB.
@TheRealK33N
@TheRealK33N 4 жыл бұрын
From my own experience, I feel that the sooner the better when it comes to analyzing your own dreams, as their messages are usually meant for your conscious state as it is at the time of the dream. If you wait too long your conscious attitude has generally changed just by virtue of living in an ever changing environment, and therefore whatever message your unconscious has given you through your dream may not fit into your later ego consciousness as well (though it may very well still be relevant). Anyone feel free to correct me if I’m completely wrong, this is just what I’ve gathered from my own experience.
@jungtolivebyafterdark
@jungtolivebyafterdark 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adder Balck, your kind words are very much appreciated. I'd agree with @Kieran Monaghan, below, and also add that there seems (by observation) to be a 48 hr window for the unconscious to respond in 'real-time' to a specific action by, or position taken, by the Ego. I've seen this time and tiome again over the years, and @JamesPDowling and his microbiologist (genetics) collegue Harriet, have confirmed that this is a period of time that is required for the consolidation of gene expression. Regarding an overall 'sell by date' the psyche is dynamic, and the relatively new discipline of Neuropsychoanalysis is showing this, in relation to the 'mapping' of Freudian theory onto neuroscience. Against that backdrop, it can be seen that the psyche will also process material over a long wave-form periodicity, and that the unconscious will resort and reframe the issues of an earlier dream, ot dream series in compensation or complementation, to the Ego, over this longer period. Kindest Regards, Steve.
@jungtolivebyafterdark
@jungtolivebyafterdark 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealK33N thanks for your insight and observations, Kindest Regards, Steve.
@95TurboSol
@95TurboSol 3 жыл бұрын
What a great point about the ego actually having an affect on dreams so that it produces imagery that is not necessarily meaningful to what is going on with the unconscious, that makes perfect sense, it's like your waking fantasy and expectations impacts your dreaming symbols. I really like examining the symbols of dreams, it's crazy what symbols the unconscious uses to represent complex ideas and feelings, but I'll make sure to just be aware of them as if in my peripheral vision rather than expect things of them.
@JungToLiveBy
@JungToLiveBy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi TurboSol, it’s part of the phenomenon of ‘Internal Projection’ which is in the forthcoming Personal Myth Guide and which will be discussed in a future video Kindest Regards, Steve🙏
@SergeC72
@SergeC72 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this episode. When I was a child I used to have recurrent dreams as different people in different times/periods with incredible details and emotions that I wouldn't known experienced at the age that I had them. As an adult in tow occasion I became conscious while still dreaming and I managed to change the outcome of the dreams. It's was an accelerating and mazing experience.
@theimaginarium
@theimaginarium 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you know this (being that it's you, Steve, I am pretty sure you already do, but anyway), but what you describe at 13:08 is something they call the "WILD" technique of lucid dreaming, or "waking into lucid dreaming" in the dream literature. There are other techniques, but I found this one that you describe to be the easiest for me. I like how you remind everyone of the risks involved. It seems you have already discovered a lot of what they talk about in that literature using your own extensive background and experience. No surprises there! Great stuff!
@JungToLiveBy
@JungToLiveBy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Goodwyn, thanks for your kind comment, I know that this is an area of specialism for you, and that you have made scholarly contributions to the wider field of Jungian studies, including some set books and papers that our IPSA students study. Kindest Regards, Steve 🙏
@theimaginarium
@theimaginarium 2 жыл бұрын
@@JungToLiveBy my pleasure :)
@tod7977
@tod7977 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear more on active imagination and self hypnosis, fascinating vid, as ever *fire emojii*
@JungToLiveBy
@JungToLiveBy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tod many thanks, we’ve one in the pipeline that’s due out very soon. It will challenge a lot of assumptions, but it’s based as ever on real-world clinical experience with both methods. Kindest Regards, Steve.
@moewe9257
@moewe9257 2 жыл бұрын
@@JungToLiveBy Could you tell me which video that would be?
@dddd_-_
@dddd_-_ Жыл бұрын
@Jung To Live By I believe you have just explained what I've just gone through last night so I ask, "if I so happen to adopt an accidental suggestion, how would I reverse the change?" I wasn't trying to mess with my psyche but because of this experience, I think I have accidentally messed with my relating system. I asked my psyche a question and received epileptic images of a random person. I don't know if the image was a product of the psyche mocking me or if it is actual material to be used for merit.
@Zach0451
@Zach0451 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like I never remember my dreams unless they're exceedingly bizarre or disturbing. Maybe a dream a month like that.
@jungtolivebyafterdark
@jungtolivebyafterdark 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hobo Frodo, dreams definitely respond to the attention we give them - so with effort, your recall will improve. Respect for your journey, Steve and Pauline.
@felmonon
@felmonon 4 жыл бұрын
steve needs to write a book.
@JungToLiveBy
@JungToLiveBy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks FELMON FEKADU, there is one in the planning stage, we hope to get it out on Amazon by mid next year. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏
@ravishingdevil
@ravishingdevil 4 жыл бұрын
I just paused the video on 15:12 to write this comment i experienced something m not sure if its the same what steve is talking about as it happened when i was already dreaming... for multiple times but it happened mostly when i am having some nightmare n i come to realize that its a dream n i try to wake myself up n then i wake up to find myself in some other dream n then i try to wake myself up to find myself in some the other dream... it happened couple of months back i remember i tried myself to wakeup atleast for 5 times until i finally woke up.... yeah it was damn scary is this what steve talked about here?
@bacchanal888
@bacchanal888 3 жыл бұрын
What you experienced is called false awakening.
@zero-tension3180
@zero-tension3180 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to listening to this channel. Really great and useful stuff.. the rabbit hole is deep. That was interesting to hear what Steve said about sleep paralysis at a certain stage in dreaming. I've been having that. I have a history of lucid and nightmarish (the latter particularly when I was young, not as intense Now I have a better handle of it). The sleep paralysis has been happening with me quite often the past year or so. Ever since I started practicing something similar to Tantric meditation. It seems there is a certain danger point in dreaming and pushing the limits though. There have been times I have tried to force mySelf to full consciousness within a dream and it literally felt like my brain was going to explode . Similarly, I've also felt like my heart stopped within my dream. I'll go a few seconds of no beat and then my body (seems to) kick the heart back into action in a similar way to those shock paddles that paramedics use. It will usually wake me up. Just thought I'd note that here as an interesting experience to add to any list xD
@zero-tension3180
@zero-tension3180 4 жыл бұрын
Not saying things shouldn't be pushed. But it can be scary sometimes. I've seen and experienCed some really Crazy and scary stuff while dreaming
@paulatreides0777
@paulatreides0777 4 жыл бұрын
Projeckt Northgate I have experienced the succubus was like a being made of light, long hair, and as real as anyone I have ever met.
@andreav318
@andreav318 3 жыл бұрын
I dream every night and always remember them without writing them down. But, I do talk about them like they are real life experiences ; maybe that’s why I am so in tune with them 😆
@user-kw9hg9o
@user-kw9hg9o 4 жыл бұрын
I typically have no dreams at all.What little bit i get is either surrealist nonsense that i would draw or imagine while awake, or dreams relating to whatever problem is currently occupying my mind (more than others),and those are usually pretty matter-of-fact.
@jungtolivebyafterdark
@jungtolivebyafterdark 4 жыл бұрын
Hia again, 161803, many thanks fror sharing. As we said to @Hobo Frodo - dreams definitely respond to the attention we give them - so with effort, your recall will improve. Respect for your journey, Steve and Pauline.
@nasherbuenafe253
@nasherbuenafe253 4 жыл бұрын
Where can we see the ipsa lecture for dreams? Been having suepr vivid dreams this past 2 days
@JungToLiveBy
@JungToLiveBy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Nashef Buenafe, it’s part of the lecture series for IPSA students in training so not available outside of that programme. Kindest Regards, Steve.
@tod7977
@tod7977 4 жыл бұрын
Teeth falling out is, quite obviously, collective symbolism.
@JungToLiveBy
@JungToLiveBy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi again Tod Venn,, it’s certainly common enough to be collectively recognised as a dream motif. Kindest Regards, Steve.
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