Shadow on the Wall: Carl Jung's Cave

[@Yacobo_]

This made me think about how the average person who is out there happily living their lives usually isn't bothered by philosophical ruminations, or these "far out" ideas of the abyss and such. They even seem to have an instinctual resistance to the suggestion of them, from what I've seen at times. Really liked the ending summary you both made, was impactful 🖼

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings, Yacobo, so true, and so important. The open horizon awaits.... Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@deanhettig1920]

I hope more people out there understand how powerful this message really is 🙏🏼

[@JungToLiveBy]

Cheers Dean, we hope so too, it'll avoid a huge amount of unnecessary attachment to suffering, and to the gurus who pedal nonsense to vulnerable young (mainly) men. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@tomhosking7766]

Watched this a good few times over now, what an incredible video. Certainly speaks to my own context and PM journey. Young people are so fortunate to have access to the information you’re sharing through this channel. Appreciate your charity to the upcoming generation and huge respect for getting this message out there 🙏🏼

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings, Tom, that's very kind of you to say. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@LorcanMcSharp]

Perfect timing on this one, “it needn’t be suffering but it is painful.”

[@JungToLiveBy]

Cheers, Lorcan, suffering, and having a transitional phase of adjustment to become who you should be, need not in any way be the same. One is the relief of becoming, the other the distress of not. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@iHomer0007]

"It needn't be suffering but it is painful." - Such an important distinction. If I had understood that earlier, I could have saved me a lot of unnecessary suffering.. Spot on and eye-opening content as always. Thank you guys so much.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks iHomer0007, really appreciate your comment, Blessings and Respect to You and for Your Journey. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏

[@jakeford8916]

My favourite JTLB intro so far! Love Mike Oldfield! This video puts together something my own instincts have always known. Waking up inside the cave to notice the cave mouth behind you, as Steve said, is painful but gives you the chance to leave it to the open savanna. Grateful to have found this channel two years ago and to be a current student now, to learn and practice depth psychology and help others, as Steve and Pauline and James have helped me.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks Jake, much appreciated, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@raab8647]

Action in the world, Is the contradiction in the world, that everything is negative.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Rahab, so true, Kindest Regards, Steve 🙏

[@rayjay369time]

As always thank you for shining a little on all these shadow puppets. Blessings and much appreciation:-)

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi again Ray Jay, that's hugely appreciated, thank you, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@tuwheratiaihaka2744]

I’ve been feeling ‘bored’ because of the state of the culture here in Australia. I’ve recently lost my client, and now I’m bed ridden to my new adaptation to look for resources/security. It’s hard because of where I’m located now in Australia, where the world is open but now I don’t have any resources to go out and live. The instinctive pressure I’ve been feeling to steer myself away from philosophical ideas and more towards learning more about independence is thanks to you guys. My ego is ready to take action and get away from ideas 🙏🙏

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings Tuw, you're breaking new ground, and will see all those hard earned benefits come to fruition. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@tuwheratiaihaka2744]

@@JungToLiveBy Thank you Steve and Pauline once again. It’s been an emotional past couple of weeks but I felt the pressure dying down after what you’ve said, followed by an invitation from the unconscious to resolve a past ‘issue’. Blessings ✨

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks again Tuw, you're a shinning example to your generation, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏 🙏

[@agentmysterian1461]

Its strange how the title of this video is 'shadow on the wall'. Last year in August, when I was still deep in the cave, I had my own version of the 'black books', as you might recall, Steve. In the 6th and final black book in the beginning I make the decision to finally listen to my unconscious as if it was a stranger being and this set up a chain reaction of synchronicities and strange coincidences and twists, with the finale being the dissolution of a (now) 5-year old complex or at least the problematic parts of it (and me finally seeing the cave for what it is). But at the beginning of the book I drew a scribble of a mystical shadowy figure that resembled me but like a mysterious version of me standing in the night streets of a city, with the tone being a little 'dream-like'. The text to it was 'its a trick. a shadow on the wall'. I don't remember the exact context (I think it was about the nature of the unconscious or smth) but I know that I hadn't really heard of the trickster function at that point (i think the quote was 'inspired' or better, stolen from game of thrones, now that I think of it xD). But my unconscious seemed to know what it was doing when it inspired me to draw that scribble and write the text next to it into my diary. And, coincidence or not, about a few weeks later I remembered the first of many old feelings that I had forgotten about, plus the memory associated with it, which was the beginning of the end of the previously mentioned complex. And where did I receive that memory? Thats right. Walking at night down a street of Hamburg.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Agent Mysterian, great insights, and illustrative of how the psyche arranges things, both inner and pouter, to indicate the way ahead. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@youniverse8851]

Very powerful message once again. Hope this reaches out to more people out there 🙏🏻

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks, You Niverse, thanks too for your continued support for the channel,

[@nathanwilliams-prince3127]

Another excellent video. Instincts seeking their expression and fulfillment must look beyond the shadows on the cave wall and outside the cave. It's interesting to hear Steve talk about how that can be painful but not suffering. Reminds me of growing pains.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks Nathan, as ever, a strong appreciation of the work, thanks and Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@MRLITERALLYEPIC]

"There are no clinical philosophers" This felt like a wake up call. I have been looking for a "cure" through philosophy for as long as I could remember and have never felt "cured" only more and more confused on how to live life the way I should.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Cheers PissedOffCamel, Respect to You, for leaving the Cave. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏🙏

[@ILikeFeelingElectric]

Such an important discussion for the present generation of young men & definitely very relevant to people ik in my life

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi again, I Like Feeling Electric, thanks for sharing your observations, they're very much appreciated, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏 🙏

[@Señor_Cactus13]

Great stuff guys! Your Content has guided me and it has had a profound impact on my life. "What you think you see is where you think you stand" This quote and the cave allegory have helped me a lot. Fantastic video! :)

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings Alexis V, thanks for your support and Respect to You, and for Your Journey. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@Lorax_Tribe]

I had imagined that it was accepted Jungian thought that the shadows on the wall in Plato’s Cave was analogous to the projection of archetypes; that you can never see the archetype, but only its projection. So, I get that you take it a step further, to not get trapped in less clinical Jungian philosophy, to be in Jung’s Cave.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Lorax Tribe, yes, insofar as Jungian ideas are also shadows, even for Jungian analysts. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏

[@fionaparker6803]

Oh my gosh ! So....weird. I had loads of "trickster energy" too, since watching that video ! I even messaged it to someone yesterday, after I "somehow" got "banned" from their channel for no good reason, and got really paranoid, and upset. They hadn't banned me? Also. A shelf in my kitchen fell off the wall. It was like ten greek weddings, with all that plate smashing ! But my boyfriend said "Oh, its ok. It just means you will have good luck for the rest of your life. " he's so sweet. I was traumatised with all the crashing ! Agree with everyone here. These videos, music, choice of visuals, are so outstanding.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi again Fiona, thanks so much for sharing, filed phenomenon are indeed interesting. Blessings to you both, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@fionaparker6803]

@@JungToLiveBy I also couldn't agree with you more. It's so "fashionable" to suffer. Such a trap. I've fallen for it myself. It takes faaar more courage to love, and be loved. To be happy.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings Fiona, Steve and Pauline🙏🙏

[@ograzebrook]

Very simple and strong message. Thanks for the content as always.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Cheers Owen, thanks for your support for the channel. Great to hear from you again. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@StormCrowSock]

Incredible content as always! 🙏

[@JungToLiveBy]

Cheers Nolan, that’s hugely appreciated. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@sven8880]

Brilliant, thank you!

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi again, Sven 8, very much obliged, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏 🙏

[@DanielJoseph97]

I don't comment as often as I should, but time and again I come back to the channel and the discord server and learn more than I have before. Many thanks once again Steve, Pauline, James and the rest of the team. Amazing video.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks so much Daniel, your comment is hugely appreciated, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏 🙏

[@javierarencibia4082]

"Your genome wants you to be you." I'm glad about how much I've gotten away from following anyone else's template since engaging with you guys.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Javier, we’ve seen your work and what you’ve overcome, you’re a fellow Laborer in the vineyard, Kindest Regards, Steve🙏

[@JungToLiveBy]

First define ‘conscious’. Hint, do not collapse into an Ego frame of reference.

[@javierarencibia4082]

@@Napoleonwilson1973 see it as a blueprint for your development that in part unfolds on its own over time and in part your "conscious ego" directs with your cognitive mind via actions, influenced emotionally by the instincts.

[@mark.norona0818]

I cannot thank you guys enough with all the insights you have provided on the years that I have been listening and watching your youtube channel. I always tried to test out all the ideas I tend to absorb from everywhere as what you have advised and it does help that I am able to discern my own thoughts to some extent, and in some way, manage to separate myself from these (though I tend to be cautious as it may get trickster-ish unless I am certain I've had a good look at it properly). It gets frustrating at times, and painful, but at times it makes me feel better as well. I would never have learned how to do things this way if not for you guys. Still a long way to go for me. It is indeed a life's task in some sense. Thank you.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Mark Norona, thanks so much for sharing, and Respect To You and for Your Journey, out from the Cave…. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@geomancer1903]

I've had this dream! Right as I was JUST beginning to get into jung, a man brought a torch to me in a cave, I saw his shadow projected against the stone as he approached, then he told me, in a calming, assertive voice, "don't worry, WE will fix this"...

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi geomancer, very interesting, to see how this develops for you, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏 🙏

[@wegotonelove]

Yeas! Omg yess! Finally someone who is speaking the truth. Thank you so much for delving into this much needed topic. :)

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings, wegotonelove, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@PetrusMinor39]

This is fantastic. Thanks so much for passing on your wisdom 🙏

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thanks so much Patrick Clark, that's really kind of you to say. Blessings, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@davidodysseus2808]

Magnificent talk. If I'm being honest, I hear myself in much of the dysfunctional ways of coping you've mentioned. Recently I had a fairly cathartic break through, that has been reshaping a lot of what I thought about myself and life. When steven says stepping out of the cave is like seeing the world newly, it does feel like that. Is it possible to reach out and speak with Steve to help solidify and grow from this period of healing?

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi David, you can reach the team at [e-mail] 🙏

[@theglimmerman]

Very powerful message. Thank you

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi again the glimmerman. Much obliged to you. Kindest Regards, Steve 🙏

[@dharmareadings8177]

Brilliant!

[@JungToLiveBy]

Cheers, Dharma Readings, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@dharmareadings8177]

@@JungToLiveBy Jung To Live By is by far the best channel on KZbin! I say this with all conviction as I have watched many channels on many subjects and yours is my favorite as your content has helped me immensely on my own path. I often watch your videos at least 2 or 3 times...pause rewind...relisten. Always I am vocalizing Wow! I have an internal wall of Heroes in my mind you are all on it. I also enjoy Dr. James Cook a loving hearted neuroscientist. Of course I am supremely grateful to be introduced to Dr. Erik Goodwyn and his channel The Imaginarium. If only I did not need sleep. Live long and prosper Steve and Pauline as you both are my guides on my path of individuation. Of course James is obviously a treasure. My name is Dr. Terence Laverdure I am a Doctor of TCM. I would love to share with you all my experiences with acupuncture and especially the magneto-electric phenomenon known as Chi. I put people into very deep states of relaxation with my techniques. Fascinating experiences.

[@JP-kg6wn]

Excellent work, thank you much.

[@astrocatcity]

Really brilliant insights here, I myself have recently internalized and projected out a very dystopian message imparted by a guru. It’s been damaging to me and my relationships. Thank you for opening my eyes to this process

[@levi1272]

I love the videos! This is very heartening to listen to.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thank You levi1272, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏 🙏

[@Verschlimmbesserung]

Hi, thanks for another wonderful presentation. This topic led me to think of the personal myth. Does Jung's idea of the Personal Myth have a bearing on the topic of discussion here, and if so, what is it? cheers

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi ᛅᛘᛁᛚ ᚴ , yes, it does, in Jung's own case, his theory and practice, were a direct result of the lived experience of his Personal Myth. That's its strength, and paradoxically, its weakness. The message of this video includes, finding your own way, based on ancestral understanding, that's recorded in your Genome and anticipated by every action of your Instincts across tour Life-Span Development. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline 🙏🙏

[@newcures7813]

Another great video (with an amazing intro)! Thank you all. It seems that when we put “gurus” up on a pedestal, we will also resent them later. Eventually our eyes are opened to their fallacies and limitations.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi again, New Cures781, thanks for your kind words. Its the foundation for the 'adaptation' of 'transference'. The horizon beckons, when, you meet your father again, at the cave mouth. Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏 🙏

[@eliphaslevi9589]

Have u guys/girls heard of "The Hays Method"? I used it back in 2012 to immeasurable personal effect. Funnily enough it involves a "cave"-like process where you connect in darkness , or under a blanket , to your subconscious and make the pact to work together with it from there on in. Took me weeks to achieve it . An every day ritual. But it worked . Changed my life and brought intense synchronicitys into it. (If not ,it Unveiled what was already there) I found that the more I helped other people the more the synchronicitys came in hard and strong. That's not to say it wasn't easy. In fact , everything seemed to get harder, but it felt as though miracles happened along the way to help me overcome the trials . I personally think this should be taught in schools ...but I also think that the people who should use it are those in the highest office. Because right now we are at a planetary low point for inspirational leaders.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi Eliphas Levi, thanks for sharing, I'm sure many people will find your reference helpful. There're a various ways to reach the same goal, we're glad that you've found one that worked so very well for you. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline🙏🙏

[@SelfImageStylist]

There was so much in this video but the word "comfort" jumped out a lot. I am seeing how seductive and womb-like the "comfort of ideas" can be. I can relate to the "discomfort of comfort" and how my seeking system can be easily lured by yet another juicy idea. Taking action in the world is not comfortable and often painful. But the discomfort of non-action - suffering - is worse. These videos do not provide such 'comfort' but rather are a call to action.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings Sharron, Huge Thanks, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏🙏

[@jasonreed1352]

That theme song had be ready to watch Rocky Balboa box a Soviet Russian in the boxing ring.

[@standstoreason123]

Wonderful wisdom and insight.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Blessings, @standstoreason123, thank you for your kind comment. Its very much appreciated. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline

[@oddpersona22]

Thank you

[@JungToLiveBy]

Thank You, Delusion Kev, Kindest Regards, Steve and Pauline🙏 🙏

[@rafaelmartinez6922]

Love your videos! At minute 8:50 - what did you mean “if the relationship has been containing” as to with mother and son. Could you reword for me please. I want to get a better understanding here. This video is really speaking to me. Thank you these videos by the way. Very enlightening!

[@rachelzuniga5300]

Ok reading others people comments helped.

[@thinginground5179]

2:45 I'm not sure on your thoughts on drugs, but whilst I was under the influence of psilocybin mushrooms, I had a vision of a trickster winding up a jack in the box. Just thought I'd share. It truly is quite bizarre.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi, ThingInGround, if you have gained a real insight, then that's a good thing. Kindest Regards, Steve 🙏

[@rachelzuniga5300]

What gurus are you talking about?

[@Amanda1234-nqc]

I've got a huge blind spot with men that I've been intimate with, which, of course, is my Daddy issues, which I've convinced myself in the past I've understood and overcame but then it's back lol I'm not wide awake but I have woke up to a lot. I've strong intuition, but with a partner, I'm blind. It's been a really difficult journey learning to trust myself and my own intuition.

[@JungToLiveBy]

Hi @EbbandFlow1234, thank you for sharing your deeply felt, and moving sentiment. Our Blessings and Respect to You, and for Your Journey, Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline 🙏🙏

[@Amanda1234-nqc]

@@JungToLiveBy Thanks so much ❤️