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[@mary-annebourke4907]

That voice! Those cheekbones! Those eyes! That smile!

[@tech-savvy8256]

That chin!!

[@deborahahonen6949]

Hard not to get lost in his beauty…😍

[@tonggao08]

People often talk about Dalton in this role, but it's easy to overlook that it is the dynamic between the two actors that makes this production so brilliant. Her quiet but steely constancy provides his platform for charisma and vulnerability.

[@DanielOliveira-om3ql]

Very well observed!!! He could never achieve this stage without 'the dynamic between the two actores' as you very well wrote. Ir takes two for a tango...

[@ЛюдмилаПрынзина-у1д]

Красиво сказали.

[@ИннаЖирова-м5т]

Хорошо сказано Я думаю что всю силу своего актерского мастерства здесь,Далтон показал именно потому что была Зила Вот это взаимодействие между ними , эта невероятная химия ,мы же физически это чувствуем и позволило Тимати так раскрыться Больше ч нигде такого Далтона не видела,ни в одном его фильме Они и правда рождены были чтобы сыграть в Джейн Эйр и оставить нам этот шедевр

[@irinavarskaya8007]

Absolutely

[@lindamattioli7943]

I cried when I saw this in 1985

[@drsaimagillani6318]

These two are beyond words..a version that does some justice to the author....

[@michellearaujo.]

Best version ever

[@FCPCPF]

For all his faults, Mr Rochester knows a priceless, albeit raw, jewel when he sees one in Jane. In 1 conversation, he lays bare the demons he has been struggling with all the years since his marriage. The conversation opens up the possibility of carthasis/redemption he badly needs. Which is why when he is exposed as a married man, he still clings desperately to Jane, the one pure soul who can heal his tormented one. You feel his desperation, his naked vulnerability . Love this JE depiction the most.

[@ohifonlyx33]

See, too often these conversations get so whittled down for so many reasons--to save time, to keep the audience interested, to move along the plot, to make it seem more "natural" or modern... but what those adaptions forget is that this story does have a lot of enigmatic repartee between the two leads--and their relationship is absolutely crucial to the story. Their relationship IS the story. Thus, this kind of rapport establishes their connection and deepens it. They are sharing their minds with one another and in so doing, the reader/watcher sees how they fall in love with each other's characteristics. Jane loves that he wants to treat her as an equal and that despite being broken, she sees that he has a capacity for goodness which he's always on the brink of reclaiming. He sees her as a reprieve from the sensual and selfish world--a pure beam of morality which he so longs to have... Scenes like this really help me understand why they fall in love... especially later on.

[@ScarletVoodoo]

Agreed and well said!

[@TheAdrianrawls]

Astute. I appreciate your comments.

[@ARKDUB1]

You’re analysis is spot on.

[@mortalclown3812]

Thank you for such a thoughtful post. Spot on.

[@laurabowden9439]

Beautifully and perfectly said. :)

[@4odyssey645]

I'm blown away by the way Mr. Rochester express his feelings, not to mention giving Jane permission to answer with honesty. Ms Eyre plays along manipulating Mr. Rochester into plundering his decade of demons. It's too soon for her to admit that she's in love with him and he doesn't want to reveal his true desire for her before knowing if Jane feels the same for him. I tell you, that sinister smirk on her face reminds of a Cat teasing a Mouse. I love this version of the movie.

[@maryanneaton833]

well said

[@brendafuller4737]

Best version of this I've ever seen. I think I've seen them all.

[@hannahmotta4908]

This and the 2006 version are my absolute faves! The 2011 and the other versions I saw were only ok I thought.

[@whiteroses47]

This version with Timothy Dalton and Zelah Clarke is by far my favorite of all the Jane Eyre adaptations I've ever viewed. Don't get me wrong, there are other good versions out there but this happens to be THE one! My second favorite was with Toby Stephens and Ruth Wilson. In this BBC miniseries of Jane Eyre, the chemistry between Timothy and Zelah was something to behold. Andrew Bicknell, who played St John Rivers, was very impressive. In the book, Mr. Rochester was not handsome and as most of us know, Timothy Dalton was very handsome. In this version, Jane Eyre refers to Mr. Rochester as being Vulcan-like, and if truth be told, Dalton did look Vulcan-like, what with his dark hair and though his eyes are really green, they looked dark. And that booming voice of his! What a voice! Jane described St. John Rivers as being a handsome, tall, blond, Greek god, and he did look like a Greek god, in my eyes. However, Dalton was so good at portraying Mr. Rochester, that all I could concentrate on was the many moods he successfully exuded with this character. Dalton nailed all of Rochester's moods as rude, arrogant, playful, angry, passionate, dispassionate, cruel, tormented, impatient, desperate, dark, and loving. Whew! Zelah reciprocated splendidly. I bought the DVD long ago and I still have it. When I'm bored with whatever's available on streaming or elsewhere, I always return to this miniseries. This is what great acting is all about and kudos must go to the entire cast as well. This is a must-see and a keeper! I just love it! Can't you tell? LOL!

[@bernadettehunt9346]

On that, I concur, it is sublime in every aspect.

[@dileniaa.8580]

I think Stanley Baker is as good as Timothy Dalton. But there is no Jane Eyre as Zelah Clark.

[@ИннаЖирова-м5т]

Если бы не было ЗИЛы ,то и Далтон бы так не сыграл Только здесь с Зилой он раскрылся и гениально сыграл Я больше ни где не видела такого Далтона Куча фильмов и в основном посредственные

[@cest_what]

My absolute fave version of Jane Eyre!

[@beatrizbecker3728]

Thanks for sharing! Great writing and great acting -- we don't need any music at all to feel the emotions!

[@talesfromprincesajesa]

like i'm mostly watching clips but i love the way they talk to each other. they have such an interesting chemistry. he's growing on me

[@eviannafaye5269]

Why oh why am I swooning over Mr Rochester when I have dishes to do and the vacuuming????

[@annfotlyan8655]

because he's totally swoon worthy

[@darrylschultz6479]

You ladies need to join "Swoonaholics Anonymous"!

[@beatrizbecker3728]

@@darrylschultz6479 Haha, love this.

[@wildflowers5555]

Cute! Yep, I must do laundry...but...

[@justinsmith4941]

Every role dalton plays is a classic piece and classic voice that's a classic that would make a GPS voice

[@emilyseal3207]

Except" Possessed." He was great, the movie was terrible.

[@brendafuller4737]

He knows there is soooo much more to her. He's drawing her out.

[@veronikazahorecova8706]

I love how they are reading each others minds

[@80skid83]

Such a great actor, dalton is

[@louisalit]

Oh, my absolute favourite TV-series - and book! Tommy Dalton is a superb character actor (he used to play Shakespeare roles at the theatre in his youth), and so is Zelah Clarke in the role as Jane Eyre.

[@Kein928]

His Name ist Timothy, Not Tommy

[@adabekee4964]

For those saying Timothy Dalton is too handsome to play Mr Rochester -------> The problem might not be him being too handsome to play Rochester, but the beauty standards of that day being different from what it is today. Today, many women are attracted to men with solidly defined bodies, broad shoulders, rugged and all but in the period in which the book is set, a slim, tall man that looks like he hasn't lifted anything heavier than a tea cup in his life, fair skinned because he doesn't go out in the sun, small cherry coloured lips and blonde hair was seen as attractive (e.g. Jane's cousin Mr St John Rivers and Young Lord Ingram). If the men we find attractive today were to be transported back in time to that period, they would be considered ugly by the ladies there. So I don't believe Mr Rochester was ugly, he just didn't meet up with the beauty standards of his day.

[@nickymarch2914]

Very much agree! Reminds me of Pride and Prejudice when they were making fun of Elizabeth being tan lol…boy how times have changed

[@ampa4989]

He is supposed to be broad chested and middling height, like burly. And anyway, if they're going to keep strict with the novel, they just make him unattractive for the modern audience. But he's pretty much perfect here, good looks (but not TOO perfectly handsome like Pierce Brosnan) and all.

[@ABMultimediaDesigner]

No wonder why he was wanted for Bond in the 80s because of the class and dominance he portrayed in this scene

[@ampa4989]

They wanted him when he was in his 20s, probably all looks and Wuthering Heights.

[@Love-Sensibility]

​@@ampa4989They've been eyeing him since 69...They knew they found gold

[@erikpeterson25]

The acting in this is superb! the best ! ...did not watch this series...glad i can see it NOW

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

Miss Eyre... get me a vodka martini. Shaken, not stirred.

[@EBstarrified]

Timothy Dalton is THE best Mr Rochester

[@ADyingFaith]

I love this conversation.

[@сельскиепарни-ж8ю]

Какой красивый Мужчина Тимати Далтон. Какой мировой актёр, как можно так играть правдопадобно. Это так невероятно, так завараживает. Браво актёрам,..! Зила Кларк- Красотка душой и сердцем. Люблю английский язык. Какой он красивый в произношении этих актеров.

[@Kein928]

Я стала учить английский из-за этого фильма и наконец прочла в оригинале (в 55лет). А Тим Далтон так сыграл мистера Рочестера!!!!, что я стала смотреть все фильмы с ним, в оригинале ( у него и голос волшебный!). Он и в театре, и в комедийных ролях, и в трагических, исторических - везде Король! Превосходный актер!❤

[@sandyjuntunen4088]

Dalton may seem too handsome for the part, but I've learned from paintings that the standard of beauty then was different from today's. Men often looked almost effeminate, women fat or pear shaped, pale and mostly ugly in my opinion. Dalton may very well have been considered too rough or rugged to be handsome then. It's interesting in any case. I like him in this role a lot.

[@TheAdrianrawls]

I concur.

[@cherylwilkinson3228]

I read Jane Eyre for the first time at the age of 14 and this version is the only one that gave me the Rochester I envisioned.

[@anyaw340]

Yes, what was considered handsome or beautiful back then would be considered unattractive today. Back then, it was considered desirable if you did not work - in other words, you were a gentleman or a genteel woman from a prominent family who just inherited your money, and the money is invested in various nefarious and barbaric practices in the British colonies; we look down on that today, but in those days, soft features were a mark of good breeding, wealth, and class. If you had dark, broad features, then - to them - you had the appearance of a laborer, or someone who worked the fields. You will find such remarks in books from that era. Very few faces in paintings from this era contain faces that people would want to have today. It's very interesting.

[@krystalkillien5550]

he's so my top 10 of great looking men :)

[@maryannangros8834]

He is my #1

[@Kein928]

He ist Nr.1 for me❤

[@КатяГрушко-в2п]

Для меня тоже.

[@RadioLaLa1]

love you Timothy ！

[@irina6038]

Эта книга у меня настольная с 16 лет....И этот фильм-самый лучший....Перечитывая книгу ,я вижу ЭТИХ ПРЕКРАСНЫХ актеров.....

[@Kein928]

И для меня тоже. Недавно прочла книгу в оригинале, а фильм смотрю всю Жизнь- в 1983 на русском, а с 2000-х на немецком и английском. Фильм просто чудо!

[@phuongvu8167]

Jane Eyre 1983 very good.

[@peterpisspotty3052]

These two are perfect for the part. Dalton epitomises Rochester

[@paulaalexandru1620]

Pe langa un talent viguros acest Timothy Dalton stăpânește desăvârșit arta rostirii pusă în evidență de o voce inegalabila !

[@helenasaraiva3239]

A melhor versão de Jane Eyre..

[@Anebrd]

I would like to see Timothy Dalton as Mr. Darcy in Pride and Prejudice.

[@amywang1168]

同意!

[@adaorahikwueme4472]

Dalton SLAYED in this film! He’s a great actor and was very handsome! He would have made a great Darcy.

[@florenciamoreira9817]

Yess😍💞👏😘

[@missyadams]

@@adaorahikwueme4472 ahhh! that would have been wonderful. Dalton is such a versatile actor, the way he played iconic fictional characters: Heathcliff in 'Wuthering Heights' (before Jane Eyre), Rhett Butler in 'Scarlett' and twice as James Bond.

[@pamoouru]

I love this scene, and this BBC adaptation of the novel is my favorite. Timothy Dalton is far too attractive to play Rochester, but I sure love looking at him, and he's brilliant in this role. Thanks for posting. :-)

[@bayer54]

Timothy Delton is so damn handsome !

[@МаркШейко-б5п]

No. he's not. They've just have a very good director here, who squeeses them in a proper way. So, we - the viewers - have the result!

[@ditsashihurkar4913]

@@МаркШейко-б5п well that's just your opinion but people are not blind . And this version probably suffers the most when it comes to the make-up, costume department and even cinematography. Yet he looks good with that horrible make-up and hairstyle which says a lot. And if you don't find him handsome, then probably you should watch him in Mistral's daughter or even Charlie's Angels.

[@deborahahonen6949]

@@МаркШейко-б5п Timothy Dalton is the most handsome man on Earth! And I’m a connoisseur of handsome men… He’s as close to perfection as is humanly possible!

[@melinasasha120]

@@МаркШейко-б5п This is the first time I came across a comment saying he is not handsome ! Are you blind ? He is extremely handsome !

[@zmac8689]

He was good in Wuthering Heights as well.

[@emilyseal3207]

"I'm paving HELL with energy.." Wow..

[@hellenpollen6897]

The best version of the book, the characters played by Timothy Dalton and Zelah Clarke are the perfect.

[@kanekokazuko7034]

ティモシーダルトン、超ハンサム、しかもセクシー‼️大好きです。😉👍🎶💓💓

[@ТатьянаОстафійчук]

Тимоти лучший Рочестер из всех екранизаций

[@janeivanyusheva9613]

Согласна

[@annemaveera5112]

"You examined me, miss Eyre. Do you find me handsome?" YES. His only sin on being Mr. Rochester is being too damn handsome. The closest with the book in appearance is 1997 version but without mustache.

[@missyadams]

and without all the yelling. but at least he showed more affection to Adele

[@missyadams]

@@cellowali2865 In the book, Rochester's eyes were described as 'bold, brilliant and black'. Jane was the one who had green eyes.

[@bobbyelmi4324]

PrincessA right? I hated how much the 1997 Rochester yelled

[@missyadams]

@@bobbyelmi4324 me too. He was better as Captain Wentworth in Persuasion

[@velapet8629]

Мне не понравилось ещё в 1997г,что Хидс старше намного своего героя, а рочестер должен выглядеть моложаво. На 25 как говорила Джейн особенно в сцене после пожара в спальне Рочестера он был похож на педофила

[@lilianaburcea8134]

Hay algo,un no se que, que lo mantuvo siempre por encima de todos los demás. Dejó huella en todo lo que tocó, hay un trocito de el en todos los papeles que interpretó. Jamás habrá otro igual❤❤

[@сельскиепарни-ж8ю]

Какие были принципы,установка жизни, брака между людьми! Я так хотела бы очутиться в той жизни. Сейчас нет такой красоты. А эта гостевая комната? Эта так умилительно. Боже мой...! Рита Владикавказ Осетия

[@iamnowchristine]

Ugh, the way he says "pleasure", particularly the second time!

[@giani_love_jesus]

Timothy Dalton Love you 😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@amywang1168]

Me too!

[@aysun9354]

Me too!!!!!

[@TiffanyTang-b1k]

My son thinks this is the best movie ever.

[@annfotlyan8655]

I"ll marry you Mr. Rocheste!!!!!!!

[@Sonja.Moser-Ulm]

Alright. Just be careful not to act strange, or you might end up locked in the attic and denied.

[@agneshouessou9765]

😢"I am paving hell with energy." "Sir?" "I am laying down good intentions." 🤔😢🤷‍♀️💕✝️

[@astrasevera5961]

he was already in love here 😊 he already decided to have her for wife

[@kirsteni.russell5903]

Looks like he's attracted to her, and enjoys talking to her, but at this point he's trying to draw her out. And note what he does after she saves his life (in another episode)--he runs off to Blanche, a woman he has NO intention of marrying! This is a hugely conflicted man (Dalton plays him very well indeed), and if he were not I would say his behavior toward Jane would make no sense.

[@VampireGlam13]

I think he fell in love with her when they made eye contact when he fell off his horse.

[@cindychristian1700]

All Hollows Eve l agree with you on that one.

[@annstillwell730]

I think he realized he loved her after she saved him from the fire. He goes after Blanche to make her jealous so she admit she loves him....that the crappy part of his charactor.

[@angela.m]

@@annstillwell730 he fell in love since the first time he saw her when he fell off his horse. He tells her so in the book. I think that's why he called her "witch" on that day (it makes me think of Mr. Darcy's line, "you've bewitched me body and soul"). The reason he takes so long to draw her out and then runs to get her jealous with Blanche is because he knew that marrying Jane would be enormously wrong and a huge sin, so he HAD to make sure she was completely and madly in love with him because otherwise he didn't see the point in even confessing his feelings to her because THERE WAS NO WAY HIS CONSCIENCE WOULD LET HIM "RUIN" JANE (by marrying her) IF HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS JUSTIFIED by her love of him. Therefore, he NEEDED her to say her feelings FIRST before he could confess his own feelings, and the ONLY way a woman like her would EVER confess to loving him was if she was full of passion at the moment. And how do you get such a passive and composed woman to confess such a thing? Easy, by making her insanely jealous. I know it seems very cruel by Mr. Rochester to get her jealous like that, but you have to understand it was even crueler to marry her in the state he was in. So in his mind, he fiercely hoped that God would forgive Jane and let them live "happily ever after" if God saw that they both truly loved each other, and again, the only way he could make sure she truly loved him was by making her jealous.

[@emilyseal3207]

He has certainly "spoiled" himself by this point. Three mistresses, A marriage, although I don't think Adele was his. I imagine he made the rounds among London's finest brothels, also. She was stainless, but I think he was attracted to her virtue and not just her chastity.

[@lorettaproctor9469]

These are the best two actors for this part, love them both. I found other depictions tried to bring sex into the scenes which would not be at all like Brontes Jane. She was demure and very moral. But passionate deep inside.

[@anyaw340]

Yes, to make an unmarried Jane sexual degraded her character. She had her principles; that's literally the essence of her character and forms the basis of the story.

[@ИннаЖирова-м5т]

Не зря говорят, что они родились чтобы сыграть эти главные роли в своей жизни Хотя у Далтона и были другие роли,это его единственная гениальная роль Он сам считает её лучшей

[@Anasimon13]

مسلسل جين اير رائع ...فقط كنا نتمني لو انه مترجم كما كان ع القناه الثانية وقت عرضه في الزمن الماضي الجميل...شكرا كثيرا لكم.

[@сельскиепарни-ж8ю]

Люблю вас очень сильно!!!

[@janeivanyusheva9613]

Ротчестер правда любит Джен Эйр, просто в начале он ее испытывал

[@ZsuzsannaSovago-hb7pq]

Thymoti do you love Sóvágó Zsuzsanna?

[@ШемудаОльга]

which dialect is mr. Rochester speaking?? is it southern english?

[@missyadams]

Welsh

[@solpat1977]

Dalton was born in Wales

[@albinocrow1725]

There is something in his accent but I cannot understand.. Could someone enlighten me on this matter?

[@inatwirlingram2540]

Jane Eyre is set in the north of England which may explain the accent

[@MsTubbytube]

Sounds a bit like an Irish brogue but very mild

[@pandacutlets83]

He's originally Welsh, his accent has some Welsh twinges

[@jane6732]

He rolls his R’s. So yummy...

[@michellekeeling3392]

He was bought up in Derbyshire since the age of three so can carry an northern accent. It is quite common in those who have grown up in the north and have had vocal (drama school) training and theatre experience. Sir Ian Mckellen is also another example of an actor who speaks with this cadence.

[@Вязание-з4о]

Какая это серия?

[@cellowali2865]

Jane Eyre ( 1983) BBC miniseries, based on the novel by Charlotte Bronte.

[@audreyhepburn652]

@ADyingFaith It's really good! :)

[@ZsuzsannaSovago-hb7pq]

Hystiry is hystory------

[@Loulou-sr3tk]

Thimoty Dalton was far to handsome to play Mr. Rochester, if you read the Bronte book.

[@albinocrow1725]

You're right, in the book he was described as... Ugly, some could say. But Timothy is too handsome for me to complain about him being in the movie

[@ditsashihurkar4913]

@@albinocrow1725 that's amusing because the makeup artist made him look quite like novel's Rochester as Timothy Dalton was not at all ruggedly handsome in real. He has fair complexion, boyish charm in his features, not harshness like a middle aged man. Even his voice seems way more gruff here. Even those fake big dark circles under his eyes, and despite the pathetic makeup and hairstyle he still looks great.

[@adabekee4964]

The problem might not be Dalton being too handsome to play Mr Rochester, but the beauty standards of that day being different from what it is today. Today, many women are attracted to men with solid defined bodies, broad shoulders, rugged and all but in the period in which the book is set, a slim, tall man that looks like he hasn't lifted anything heavier than a tea cup in his life, fair skinned because he doesn't go out in the sun, small cherry coloured lips and blonde hair was seen as attractive (e.g. Jane's cousin Mr St John Rivers). If the men we find attractive today were to be transported back in time to that period, they would be considered ugly by the ladies there. So I don't believe Mr Rochester was ugly, he just didn't meet up with the beauty standards of his day.

[@Sandy-bx4fq]

She’s supposed to be a teen in this but she looks 30. It messes up the dynamic between them. They look more like peers than him being so much older.

[@robynn0405]

Nobody will replace Toby Stephens from the 2006 version, but Timothy is giving him a run for his money with this performance. 😮

[@anyaw340]

I think Toby Stephens is convincing in the role, but he lacks the gravitas and commanding presence of Timothy Dalton, which creates Rochester as the aloof, intelligent, upper class gentleman that he's supposed to be. (He's gruff and rough around the edges in his ways of conversing, but he's still of the upper class.) So, when we get to the climax of the story, where Rochester shows his vulnerability to Jane and is basically on his knees, it's a much bigger shock to the system than when it's Toby Stephens' version of Rochester. Jane has brought this prominent, intelligent, commanding gentleman to his knees. I think Dalton demonstrates the widest range. When you compare this scene to the one where Jane is leaving him (Dalton/Rochester), you can see the range. He has the presence of a king in this scene, but then is utterly pathetic and lovesick when she's leaving him. That's the essence of Rochester.

[@jennymack1334]

There no proof roschester married bertha since her name link family cargo ships he has friend big bertha he older so Adele has be teenager or older she just called little Adele this what many english people say .Adele is his neice. Or ward.

[@mjremy2605]

The versions I did NOT like was Ciaran Hinds as Rochester in the 1997 version with Samantha Morton and George C. Scott with Susannah York. Morton was good but Hinds came across as a violent bully, controlling, abusive, and frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog! Awful over acting. Scott looked too old, not a great version. Best Rochesters: Timothy Dalton, William Hurt, Toby Stephens.

[@Dubravkasmoshfegh]

I'm

[@АннаЕвсикова-я9л]

Да, Далтон очень красивый мужчина, изумительный актёр, но в жизни эгоист, жить только с красотой невозможно; мне трудно представить, чтобы мой муж отказался от помощи моим родителям, сказав при этом, что каждый сам решает свои проблемы. Как можно жить с человеком по контракту? С женщиной, родившей ему сына? ( если журналисты не врут). Мне, русской женщине, его ровеснице, не понять. Нельзя обвинять Оксану Григорьеву: жить с человеком, который живёт в угоду своим амбициям, не возможно.

[@АннаЕвсикова-я9л]

Хочу добавить: привет с далёкого Севера, я семью Чернухи не знаю.

[@ampa4989]

@@АннаЕвсикова-я9л You see, he didn't truly love her. If he did, he'd have married her. And he's a fine actor but doesn't seem very avaricious as he turned down the Bond role twice. So he might not be very rich. You just can't go around having kids with men who don't commit to you.

[@ampa4989]

@@cellowali2865 Really, you seem super officious. You did not contradict anything I said about his turning down the Bond role. And I think you're just speculating about his personal life, but that heinous woman seems the exact type that would never refuse a chance to sue for divorce. No way she turned down a proposal from him.

[@ampa4989]

@@cellowali2865 Like I said, you did not contradict anything I said about his Bond role. And I doubt that "article" was a quoted interview with him.

[@BlankCanvas88]

I know I shouldn't, but I get irritated by Zelah Clarke's accent. I think I could stand her acting much better if it weren't for the accent. There's just something over-the-top and silly about it that takes me out of the action. I like everything else about her & her performance, it's just a personal preference.