DELTARUNE / The Meaning of [Hyperlink Blocked] / All Theories Analyzed

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@gradientLX701
@gradientLX701 Жыл бұрын
"YOU WANT [[Hyperlink Blocked]], DON'T YOU." sounds similar to when Flowey said "You want some LOVE, don't you?"
@moyai6618
@moyai6618 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@raye-raphaelsashay8521
@raye-raphaelsashay8521 Жыл бұрын
I knew that phrasing was familiar! To me, this is a HUGE point in the theory's favor
@Hex.A.Decimal
@Hex.A.Decimal Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Reminds me of judgement hall Sans. "you didn't gain any LOVE, but you gained love."
@_SomeGuy_
@_SomeGuy_ Жыл бұрын
No. I get it! That [[Hochi mama]] You've been [[making]] haven't you? You've been making [[Hyperlink Blocked]] and now that you have your own supply, you don't need me!!! Is that also love?🤨
@nekoaile
@nekoaile Жыл бұрын
@@_SomeGuy_ I mean he explains it in length in the video
@Starving_indev
@Starving_indev Жыл бұрын
"You think making [Frozen Chicken] with your [Side Chick] is gonna let you drink up that [Sweet Sweet] [Freedom Sause]?" Might be the best line in the history of video games
@Starving_indev
@Starving_indev Жыл бұрын
And the fact thay he refers to Noelle as side chicl is just a cherry on top
@creativename773
@creativename773 9 ай бұрын
He did not have to do berdly this dirty
@finchcarvingadiamond
@finchcarvingadiamond 8 ай бұрын
That entire speech is so amazing. Toby wtf are you on. Toby is honestly a freaking brilliant writer and while people compliment his games and characters, you oddly don't hear people talk about how galaxy brained this fucker writes his dialogue. Comedy, character and mystery wise
@andymuggloy6969
@andymuggloy6969 5 ай бұрын
And even with all that, he's a notorious spaghetti coder.
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
The Romantic undertones of the Weird Route make Spamton's claim that you'll end up "crying in a broken home" even more menacing.
@Xynam0
@Xynam0 Жыл бұрын
I love this perspective
@gabrieltallent1658
@gabrieltallent1658 4 ай бұрын
It really puts into perspective that not every choice has good outcomes, and maybe we should be thankful we don't get them.
@centurosproductions8827
@centurosproductions8827 Жыл бұрын
You could say… he’s no stranger to LOVE. He knows the rules, and so does Kris.
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 Жыл бұрын
That's the best rickroll I've ever had.
@fudo699
@fudo699 Жыл бұрын
A full [[analysis]] is what he's thinking of.
@Monkebs45
@Monkebs45 Жыл бұрын
Never gonna [[make 50000 dollars in a week]] you cry, never gonna [[say goodbye to dirty stains]], never gonna tell a [[liar liar]] and [[THE PAIN! IT BURNS!]] you
@elizastaker9481
@elizastaker9481 11 ай бұрын
If I could both like and dislike this comment I would
@ねぷとねえねるぐ
@ねぷとねえねるぐ 11 ай бұрын
@@elizastaker9481you like, I’ll dislike
@trellomikfi6796
@trellomikfi6796 Жыл бұрын
"YOU'VE BEEN MAKING [Drugs]! AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SUPPLY, YOU DON'T NEED ME!"
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Жыл бұрын
The final conclusion here is just perfect with how I interpret Spamton. He is SLEAZY. It's one of his primary traits. He perverts innocent things into being dirty. From a textual sense, sexually implicative. But from a subtextual sense, perverting the ideals of Undertale into being twisted.
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Very well put!
@lrkeribergaard6110
@lrkeribergaard6110 10 ай бұрын
i agree
@underplague6344
@underplague6344 Жыл бұрын
I almost forgot how especially UNHINGED spamton's snowgrave dialogue is. Just outright (censored) cussing and calling Noelle a "side chick". This theory only makes that fight even more insane.
@lorrainebrunner2490
@lorrainebrunner2490 Жыл бұрын
Jaru: "Guys, I _promise_ this video won't be complicated!" 32:22 Jaru: "Now I will explain *(String Theory)* to you with this flow-chart."
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
LOL
@NRobbi42
@NRobbi42 Жыл бұрын
Jaru agreeing with a relatively popular fan theory?? Truly a sign of the end times!
@dummyyogurt5375
@dummyyogurt5375 Жыл бұрын
ikr jaru's usually the ones with the most unhinged takes
@MaddieS659
@MaddieS659 Жыл бұрын
THE ROARING IS APPROACHING OH NO
@bighamerreis2058
@bighamerreis2058 Жыл бұрын
good, if its gonna take an eternity to get the next chapters, lets get to the end of time quickly
@kingofflames738
@kingofflames738 Жыл бұрын
​@@dummyyogurt5375I feel like this might be a bad sign.
@MJPlushYT
@MJPlushYT 9 ай бұрын
@@dummyyogurt5375 Guys Dess is Kris!>!?!?!!?!?111111
@WhoStoleKirya73
@WhoStoleKirya73 Жыл бұрын
Spamton wanting LV also works well with his definition of "workout", telling Kris in the weird route to try a little "workout" and calling NEO a "workout-ready body"
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@september758
@september758 Жыл бұрын
So spamton neo was up for a massacre?
@WhoStoleKirya73
@WhoStoleKirya73 Жыл бұрын
@@september758 well, do you remember the line when he talked about turning daves into rosen graves?
@OttrPopAnimations
@OttrPopAnimations Жыл бұрын
probably@@september758
@MasquedMocha
@MasquedMocha 11 ай бұрын
@@september758he did give us the thorn ring
@Seeks_stuff
@Seeks_stuff Жыл бұрын
God, I hate how much sense the love theory makes. I never really thought about the romantic connotations of the weird route either but the more you pointed out the evidence the more it actually lines up and that just makes the weird route more disturbing than it already was
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Perfect! XD
@BiomechanicalBrick
@BiomechanicalBrick Жыл бұрын
What about them making [content]? That's literally what the weird route is, an extra secret piece of game content. And when spamton tries to sell hyperlink blocked to kris, he might be trying to sell him more content, which is what his neo fight is
@uhh473
@uhh473 Жыл бұрын
Holy moly it the guy who made the fnf deltarune mod
@fnafisgoodbruh4924
@fnafisgoodbruh4924 Жыл бұрын
@@uhh473 best Fnf mod in 3023 next to mob mod
@nekoaile
@nekoaile Жыл бұрын
@@BiomechanicalBrick that's a good theory but I don't see how having "a little bit of [content] in the morning" would really make sense, or why it would be important to Kris.
@TEOX977
@TEOX977 Жыл бұрын
Jaru Jaru, the man looking at Deltarune lore so deeply he might become insane as Spamton
@Narteketh
@Narteketh Жыл бұрын
haha fr
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
DON'T FORGET TO [Like and Subscribe] FOR MORE [Hyperlink Blocked]!
@Narteketh
@Narteketh Жыл бұрын
@@JaruJaruJ (epic spamton laugh)
@cazzok
@cazzok Жыл бұрын
HEY EVERYONE IT’S [oh boy, wacky jaru is at it again!] TOD4Y WE’rE GOING TO BE [Please be civil in the discussions wall] EVERYONE’S f4VORITE [Number1ratedsalesman1997]! !
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
@@cazzok xD
@qwertykins76
@qwertykins76 Жыл бұрын
Spamton is one of those villains who literally just needs a few hugs, and he'd be fine.
@BmuXD
@BmuXD Жыл бұрын
He is not even a villlain, which makes it even more sad ;-;
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
True. x(
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Жыл бұрын
I've never related to a villain more
@uno_stronzo
@uno_stronzo Жыл бұрын
And a good job
@Firedgoose69
@Firedgoose69 Жыл бұрын
​@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303If you actually can relate to him that much I am sorry
@DigitalArctic
@DigitalArctic Жыл бұрын
If Spamton is saying "You want it. You want "LOVE", don't you." then it also sounds eerily similar to early Flowey dialogue at the start of Undertale: "What's LV stand for? Why LOVE, of course! *You want some LOVE don't you* ?"
@snowman6111
@snowman6111 Жыл бұрын
When you first meet Spamton (as shown here 1:08:27) he remarks about how you're "all alone on a late night", projects about how you've been abandoned by all your friends, and in turn offers you a deal for "lonely hearts like you." 'Love' works so well here 😎 Great theory!
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And great point! :D
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Жыл бұрын
Toby's knowledge of pop culture is very vast. Despite the fact that "lonely hearts" now gets mostly associated with The Beatles due to their album, the term used to be about the personal ads section of the newspaper. Perfect thing for Spamton to say and I'm sure it gets glossed over (I certainly did until you quoted him here).
@Knux5577
@Knux5577 Жыл бұрын
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZepToby likes to play with ambiguity. Things that could have multiple meanings, just like the anagrams.
@ninjoshday
@ninjoshday 10 ай бұрын
​@@Knux5577And phrases like Determination (De-termination) and "But it refused" (re-fused)
@mimszanadunstedt441
@mimszanadunstedt441 8 ай бұрын
@@Knux5577 the power of contrast opposites up is down and down is up
@E.T.Pmaster-pw4ub
@E.T.Pmaster-pw4ub Жыл бұрын
I really like how Love Theory actually also works in a more literal sense from Spamton's perspective: Hyper -> more than average, love is a strong emotion; Link -> love does connect people; Blocked -> referencing how he never got to experience love. Hyperlink Blocked -> He never got to experience that strong connection to others, AKA the reasoning behind Love Theory.
@michaelschlem2849
@michaelschlem2849 Жыл бұрын
9-3-23 This theory would connect the literal meaning of the parts of "Hyperlink Blocked" and the meaning that represents "Love/LV". It's both the literal meaning of the parts of "Hyper - Link -Blocked" meaning of being prevented from having a strong connection to others. Plus, what is a hyperlink in the computer terminology? A thing which connects one file or website to another. The link points to something else, allowing for the computer to go to that other location. And Spamton G. Spamton wants to have the freedom to do anything/go anywhere. Plus, it would match up with how much he hates the [Clown Around Town], Jevil. Jevil had his own "freedom", only to get himself locked up. He gave up his freedom, while Spamton wants it.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Жыл бұрын
I feel like breaking down and exploring Kris and Noelle's romantic connection in the Snowgrave Route is sort of the opposite of shipping. It's possibly the most messed up relationship in the franchise. Spamton's encouragement of it only becomes his undoing. By the player's intervention Kris goes from a shy, weird, kinda creepy kid to a downright psychopath. The implications of this being the way to romance Noelle... it's alarming
@Volian0
@Volian0 Жыл бұрын
yeah I doubt it's romantic, I think when spamton says "you've been making [hyperlink blocked]" he means LOVE as Level of Violence, not a feeling
@VanNessy97
@VanNessy97 11 ай бұрын
@@Volian0 and certainly not the definition of what "making love" actually means
@Dekubud
@Dekubud 7 ай бұрын
It sadly makes sense. Noelle is young and naive, which makes her especially susceptible to manipulation and abuse tactics. I think it works very well in contrast with the normal route, where Noelle and Susie are learning about love in a normal teenager way. This makes me wonder as well about the theory that the story is about Susie. After all, the first chapter is all about the theme of not having choices and following a single plotline while the secret boss rejects those concepts. But while in that chapter the player can't make choices, Susie can since she is the main motor of change in the story. Interestingly, Snowgrave isn't just a genodice route, but also gives the player the choice to try and take away the theme from Susie: it's supposed to be where she discovers and explores her feelings for Noelle, but instead the player can push Kris onto her. I am very curious to see if this will be a theme with each chapter.
@DemiIsNotHere
@DemiIsNotHere 6 ай бұрын
Even worse, you can still hit on Susie while doing the weird route. Which aligns with Kris own desires, and he reacts exactly the same. And Even spamton calls Noelle a side chick.
@seisner6655
@seisner6655 Жыл бұрын
The Snowgrave route line sold me on this theory. "You've been making [[LOVE]]" just works too well as both a meme and a legitimate plot point.
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 Жыл бұрын
^ This
@zenochara7522
@zenochara7522 Жыл бұрын
I do not like the implications that are associated with _making love_
@davisdf3064
@davisdf3064 Жыл бұрын
@@zenochara7522 Oh god, the green site will have a field day
@AngraMainiiu
@AngraMainiiu Жыл бұрын
​@@davisdf3064Like it already hasn't!?
@KirbosPlanet
@KirbosPlanet Жыл бұрын
@@AngraMainiiu now it will, again.
@randomstanduser8720
@randomstanduser8720 Жыл бұрын
15:28 the hyperlinked block here could also stand for love: “I’ll get so loved.” and even from the stand point of the sentence being cut off “I’ll get so much love/LV.” Since before this piece of dialogue he refers to obtaining his NEO body
@3MB3Rx134
@3MB3Rx134 Жыл бұрын
As improbable as chaos theory is, spamton wanting a little chaos in the morning is such a mood and I don’t know why
@monsieurlefrog8706
@monsieurlefrog8706 Жыл бұрын
not gonna lie this is one of the best theories i've seen, i never really considered the context around when [hyperlink blocked] was used in dialogue and that conclusion is amazing, the idea of this artificial love between kris and noelle plays into the theme of control really well and makes the weird route even weirder
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear! I'm glad you like it! :D
@cipherfiedart7338
@cipherfiedart7338 Жыл бұрын
Crackpot theory: Hyperlink Blocked was meant to be explicitly stated as “love” during development, but the phrasing of “making love” in Snowgrave weirded Toby out so much that he made a whole excuse to not say it outright lol
@archerestarcher
@archerestarcher 7 ай бұрын
I love this but he coulda just replaced making with creating if that's the entire reason lmao
@Mi-be1os
@Mi-be1os Жыл бұрын
The usage of a flowchart is such a good idea, feels very didactic! Already hyped for the video! :D
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hope you enjoy it! :D
@qwertykins76
@qwertykins76 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching me a new word
@hi_hello10
@hi_hello10 Жыл бұрын
@@JaruJaruJ Althow the flow chart is good hyperlink theory can be on either side if [hyperlink blocked] also covers up the text of the link wicth may be different each time and the link also dosent have to be malware for it to be blocked.
@Mi-be1os
@Mi-be1os Жыл бұрын
@@JaruJaruJ I did, great work once again! :))
@Mi-be1os
@Mi-be1os Жыл бұрын
@@qwertykins76 Glad I could be of help ;>
@luizzeroxis
@luizzeroxis Жыл бұрын
Spamton doesn't plan to take Kris's soul from the beginning. He thinks the robot body will give him what he wanted, then he realizes he's still 'held up by strings', and decides to just take Kris's soul as a last resort.
@Tarragonofficial302
@Tarragonofficial302 Жыл бұрын
I feel like spamton had the idea of doing it and was saving it as a backup plan, hence him wanting to see it in his introduction fight
@TheRealSuperKirby
@TheRealSuperKirby Жыл бұрын
​@Tarragonofficial302 yeah, in his first interaction he says "ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SHOW ME YOUR [[heartshapedobject]]"
@trouslinabone
@trouslinabone Жыл бұрын
This!!! I genuinely think that Spamton taking Kris' soul wasn't a plan until last second.
@CAT-MDOS
@CAT-MDOS 11 ай бұрын
The idea of Kris just making drugs in the snow grave route is the funniest shit I have ever seen “Noelle I’ve got no freedom we have to COOK”
@torusorus7803
@torusorus7803 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love how toby leaves room for the most random rhetoric, letting the most in-depth theory crafting of almost any game ever
@ebisu-chan
@ebisu-chan Жыл бұрын
I don't think he understood how [HYPERFIXATED] some people can get, me being one of them
@Data-Expungeded
@Data-Expungeded Жыл бұрын
@@ebisu-chanI think I’m actually going insane from the amount of theorizing I’ve been doing.
@ebisu-chan
@ebisu-chan Жыл бұрын
@@Data-Expungeded omg same, I never used Reddit before like 2 weeks ago and now I'm chronically on it looking for crumbs and opinions everywhere.
@Josuh
@Josuh Жыл бұрын
You're all so lucky you didn't witness the spamton meat thread on 4chan
@torusorus7803
@torusorus7803 Жыл бұрын
@@Josuh I don't think I want to know
@baba_grill_2205
@baba_grill_2205 Жыл бұрын
Dude you have no idea how excited I am when you post a video
@ethanb9981
@ethanb9981 Жыл бұрын
Exactly dude it’s always awesome
@SansUndertale369
@SansUndertale369 Жыл бұрын
SAMEEEE
@leafgem
@leafgem Жыл бұрын
Your profile pic tells that
@trudyyy9395
@trudyyy9395 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS SO REAL OMG I LITERALLY GET SO HYPED
@FlyMiCat_yup
@FlyMiCat_yup Жыл бұрын
YES
@tanyas.
@tanyas. Жыл бұрын
That moment when Jaru actually agrees with a popular theory and you're excited that you got to watch a jaru video but confused cause he's not 4 parallel universes ahead of you: 😮 Anyways, always a pleasure seeing you upload!
@Ciurk
@Ciurk Жыл бұрын
fr
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. I'll go full deranged again before long. xD
@richardshiitake5083
@richardshiitake5083 Жыл бұрын
I know it’s unrelated to the theory, but the editing was really entertaining. The idea/mental image of Spamton selling Big the cat probably won’t leave my mind for a while xD
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
I am SO glad to hear that! xD
@TheRealSuperKirby
@TheRealSuperKirby Жыл бұрын
and since he says EVERY [[big]] you can even imagine him selling multiple big the cats to Kris
@theflyingspaget
@theflyingspaget 8 ай бұрын
​@@TheRealSuperKirbya pride of bigs
@leritykay8911
@leritykay8911 Жыл бұрын
I've always figured that, In Normal Route Spamton NEO, he did obtain SOME sort of freedom. Notice how he never mentions [Hyperlink Blocked] on his normal route Neo fight. Perhaps with his new power, he was actually able to say what it is? I mean, as Neo, he WAS able to say [Soul] for the first time, instead of [HeartShapedObject]
@hyper_lynx
@hyper_lynx 9 ай бұрын
(I know this is old but) he does use [[Hyperlink Blocked]] as NEO sometimes so unless it's more then one word this doesn't super work
@Pax-con
@Pax-con Жыл бұрын
Oh my, I always assumed that [Hyperlink Blocked] was freedom or something but the Love-LOVE double meaning is both keeping the single meaning while being far more flexible than the other ones. Most of your theories are a hard sell for me but this one is cheaper than free.
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Nice! xD
@philltheotherguy1868
@philltheotherguy1868 Жыл бұрын
I used to write off any attempt to give [hyperlink blocked] any particular meaning, but “love” works so well in literally every situation it’s used that it would make less sense if [hyperlink blocked] didn’t mean love. While most other words suggested seem pretty forced in “soak in the X” and “a little bit of X in the morning” using “love” in those sentences makes them sound perfectly natural, like something people would say in real life. The “making love” innuendo is a bit of clever writing that couldn’t not be intentional.
@fodless717
@fodless717 Жыл бұрын
Damn this actually makes a lot of sense, I always thought that Noelle and Kris’ interactions in the snowgrave route kinda read like an unhealthy relationship
@skushi8414
@skushi8414 Жыл бұрын
i dont like this theorie cuz noelle is visbly not intrested in kris as a partner, and that she notices him first in hospital tells more about that she is traumatized because of him and sees him as a constant threat
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 Жыл бұрын
@@skushi8414 _"i dont like this theorie cuz noelle is visbly not intrested in kris as a partner"_ She outright smiles and blushes when Kris offers to buy the Freeze Ring. also, the "kris_dreemur_kris" page on the official Deltarune website reveals that she has a secret longing for him.
@fodless717
@fodless717 Жыл бұрын
@@skushi8414 you know what a metaphor is?
@aresrivera9744
@aresrivera9744 Жыл бұрын
@@skushi8414 It doesn’t really matter because it’s something called dark romance. A toxic relationship is still a relationship nonetheless . And that’s what snow grave is showing .
@ma.2089
@ma.2089 Жыл бұрын
@@skushi8414 I don’t think Noelle 100% sees the actions as Kris since she admits he looks sick and even mentions the voice appears to not be coming from him at a certain point. Seeing Kris likely just had her remember what she did, and it horrifies her.
@hi-ougidemonfang
@hi-ougidemonfang Жыл бұрын
Feel like it’s important to remember that the internet is down during chapter 2. None of the characters can access the internet in the dark world. (It’s not clear if the internet was down before hand, or if opening a dark world blocks the internet connection.)
@hi-ougidemonfang
@hi-ougidemonfang Жыл бұрын
It’s mostly mentioned about how the internet being down affected queen, but spamton is a spam bot so it’d probably bum him out too.
@simonevo9743
@simonevo9743 Жыл бұрын
New theory dropped: Knight's blade hit the ethernet cable
@squibydoesalittletrolling
@squibydoesalittletrolling Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the quote "I have just... the thing... you need... [HYPERLINK BLOCKED]" refers to Love, LV, EXP, or something along those lines. It also makes sense given the context of the snowgrave.
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Very valid theory!
@namename8734
@namename8734 Жыл бұрын
A crucial part I think you missed full analysis of was "You've been Making, haven't you?" This intransitive 'making' here, using it as a verb by itself without an object, is fascinating. It's also exactly what Queen said in her fountain monologue. "[The Knight] Coursed Its Will Into The Blade And Made". Nothing after that, the Knight just Made. I can't see these two unique uses of made as anything but connected. The Knight makes [Hyperlink Blocked]. On that note, [Call]/[A Call]/[Calls]/[The Calls] is an interesting idea. There's some jank around the edges (uploading calls to the disk? I suppose he could be bringing his records of his calls with the phone man), but it meaning both importance to people around you, choice, and specifically the calls he got from the phone man gives it flexibility and an interesting dimension. Kris wants calls, as they want to be important to their friends, and they want to be given more calls (choice) in their life. Spamton wants calls, as he wants the phone man back in his life after being abandoned by him. Making the Calls is certainly what Kris does during Snowgrave, and the Knight calls Queen. Maybe a bit more of an interesting as opposed to good idea. He does use the term Making the Calls unblocked already...
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Good point regarding the Queen saying the Knight "Made!" I wonder what that means...
@seisner6655
@seisner6655 Жыл бұрын
I had the thought that Hyperlink Blocked could be Content, and your idea heavily supports this as a theory. Creating Dark Fountains is literally making content for the game.
@honestkyn718
@honestkyn718 Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the context. It seems to refer to meta or plot stuff. You can not convince me spamton didn't want to say "YOU'VE BEEN MAKING LOVE HAVEN'T YOU?!" in snowgrave
@BiomechanicalBrick
@BiomechanicalBrick Жыл бұрын
You've been making [content] haven't you? Now that you have your own supply you don't need me, etc
@ab-qf1iv
@ab-qf1iv Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It just fits too well
@Icameinclutch
@Icameinclutch Жыл бұрын
​@@BiomechanicalBrick😏
@Icameinclutch
@Icameinclutch Жыл бұрын
​@@BiomechanicalBrickwhat kind of content are you talking about exactly 😏🥴
@MJPlushYT
@MJPlushYT 9 ай бұрын
It sounds so Spamton
@melodyMonger413
@melodyMonger413 Жыл бұрын
not only have you given me a new interperetation of Spamton, but youve made me love his character even more, which i didnt even realize was possible!
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I'm glad to hear! :D
@moresnqp
@moresnqp Жыл бұрын
W homestuck fan
@melodyMonger413
@melodyMonger413 Жыл бұрын
@@moresnqp so true
@liaevans4483
@liaevans4483 Жыл бұрын
I really really love the flowchart way of talking about the theories
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
I'm glad! :D
@pexdark
@pexdark Жыл бұрын
I'll condense my thought about this since I'm scared I'll forget them after finishing the video I was wondering why these specific words were chosen as a replacement for this concept, this thing. What if the hyperlink doesn't lead to a website, but leads to a game object? For example, when talking to a NPC they could say "oh, you have a in your inventory, let me reforge it" (the symbols are a spot where anything could be typed in). What if spamton is referencing a thing like that (for example, Level Of ViolEnce) that is missing from deltarune, and because the game doesn't know what to do with a uncompatible object it blocks it from corrupting the rest of the dialogue. Since it's a HYPERlink, it could be referencing a thing from a different program, like Undertale. I know this is a super meta theory, but I wanted to highlight that hyperlink doesn't just mean a link to a website. Maybe someone more experienced in lore than me could make some sense with this information? Also if this is mentioned later in the video I'll be very happy.
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
That's a very fun idea!
@luzja_vi49
@luzja_vi49 Жыл бұрын
I never paid too much attention to the term "hyperlink blocked" in Spampton' s dialogue. At the beggining of this video I was certain that this doesn't have to mean anything important or specific, that it' s just another of his glitches. But listening to the "single meaning "love" theory", I realized how much sense it makes. So fascinating. Thank you for another fun wideo, Jaru!
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
@BmuXD
@BmuXD Жыл бұрын
It literally feels like you have the hability to solve EVERYTHING-
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm flattered that you feel that way. x)
@SemiHypercube
@SemiHypercube Жыл бұрын
I figured it would be Love/LOVE just based off the Weird Route, though i never thought about the implications if this for every other instance Also about control theory, would the Weird Route quote perhaps be referring to the control Kris has over Noelle? (or at least appears to, since really the player/SOUL is in control)
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Could be! It's a bit roundabout, and I'm not sure "making" would be how I'd describe it, but it's Spamton, so it's an option for sure.
@fordalels
@fordalels Жыл бұрын
i dont think control makes that much sense for the weird route since the whole route is about the player using their control over kris to control others, and spamton doesnt refer to the player aside from possibly that one in the shop... furthermore his despise of his 'strings' and knowing that kris has their own 'strings' would make it a bit... questionable for him to get mad at kris for what you are clearly making them do - of manipulating noelle
@cloudypotato3112
@cloudypotato3112 Жыл бұрын
One possible small hole in the love theory is if you consider the person describing the prizes is Spamton in the Spamton sweepstakes, he says love multiple times, specifically in the body pillow description, Spamton engraved wedding ring description, and the Spamton snow globe description (he might say it more I didn't check to) Also something weird I noticed in the sweepstakes is I don't think Spamton says [Hyperlink Blocked] once throughout the whole thing.
@comet_crash
@comet_crash Жыл бұрын
Wasn't the sweepstakes non-cannon?
@juiceecads3894
@juiceecads3894 Жыл бұрын
@@comet_crash only the livestream portion, if i'm not mistaken
@ackro336
@ackro336 9 ай бұрын
the love theory is so good that it breaks my heart knowing that spamton actually says love unobstructed in the Q&A, almost certainly deconfirming it
@gudmansal3468
@gudmansal3468 4 ай бұрын
though he can say soul, he only does it in the neo fight and always says heartshapedobject otherwise so it might be the same logic
@helton1812
@helton1812 Жыл бұрын
also [Hyperlink Blocked] being love would make "YOU WANT IT. YOU WANT [[Love]], DON'T YOU?" be a mild reference to Flowey
@pheonix-1331
@pheonix-1331 Жыл бұрын
What if Kris hears something other than [Hyperlink Blocked] and it is just blocking the player from hearing what is actually said? Similar to the secret conversations between Kris and Ralsei when the player is not looking.
@elikrieger1368
@elikrieger1368 Жыл бұрын
An hour and eleven minute long video about two words, I love Jaru's videos
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
xD
@JezElectro13
@JezElectro13 Жыл бұрын
3:41 I think they would say "An apple smurfed from the tree".
@tobiasbayer4866
@tobiasbayer4866 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently at the part where you discuss determination. You said that Spamtom intending to supply Kris with determination makes sense if you assume that he meant Kris will have his determination after he absorbs their soul. And thats how they will break their strings. This makes sense on the surface but I think you got the order of events wrong. This basically makes it seem like Spamtons plan was to become Neo and to then take Kris soul with his new power (smth he already tried to do in their first encounter but failed to defeat Kris). But that was never part of Spamtona plan. Spamton thought becoming Neo was enough to set him free. After transforming hes even surprised that he still has strings and how he still isnt "big" enough. Only then does he change plans and tries to take Kris soul to become even more powerful. And in snowgrave he also never mentions taking Kris soul. Hes just mad at Kris for getting "Hyperlink blocked" without him. I know this is only a small correction but still. Edit: Ok, so the mistake was just repeated during the control theory. No, Spamton never planed to fuse with Kris. The plan always was to become Neo. Fusing with Kris was a spontaneous decision. So Spamton offering that to Kris as a reward beforehand doesnt make sense. Edit 2: It was just repated again during happiness. At this point I will stop editing this and just say that claiming Spamton wanted to fuse with Kris from the beginning is a minor misunderstanding that leads to the actually kinda major effect of presenting multiple theories as more plausible than they actually are. I hope Jaru reads this.
@boopplop2608
@boopplop2608 Жыл бұрын
New jaru video! Best part of my month
@FabulousJejmaze
@FabulousJejmaze Жыл бұрын
Unironically this
@SteveyBobJoe101
@SteveyBobJoe101 Жыл бұрын
47:47 - I believe this line actually makes sense, it's not saying it will upload his choices...it's saying it's HIS choice that he wants to do the upload. Without the excessive periods it would be "...Now Kris, don't be so greedy. Hand over the disk, then we will transfer. My *choice*." Now, as you point out, it does fall apart because choice is not in hyperlink blocked at times
@Anthaneus
@Anthaneus Жыл бұрын
I’d like to think of that when he says “hyperlink blocked”, spamton makes a sound akin to a windows xp error message.
@DAVINNIA314
@DAVINNIA314 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that! Finally found someone else who thinks the same!
@svnnyday
@svnnyday Ай бұрын
Something I haven't seen mentioned (even though this video is a year old LOL) around 1:05:08, the music that plays during the acid lake in Queen's mansion is called Acid Tunnel of Love. Maybe just a coincidence, but it adds a lot to this line if we're to assume that it is, in fact, referencing the acid puzzle.
@eenox
@eenox Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you said or implied this at some point in the video, but in regards to a connection between "literal theory" and "love theory", it can also be interpreted that a Hyper Link (a connection that goes beyond what's normal) also perfectly defines love itself. It literally fits too well, I cannot be unconvinced at this point. Excellent video as always my good man. and once again, toby goodness me how do you come up with these things
@raye-raphaelsashay8521
@raye-raphaelsashay8521 Жыл бұрын
I was one of the multiple concept theory people (thinking that Spamton may be putposefully censoring himself to hide his intentions from us, the player, while conspiring with Kris for freedom, which I still think is interesting), but your analysis has totally convinced me. Nice theory crafting!
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks! :D
@Someone-dy5ui
@Someone-dy5ui Жыл бұрын
1:05:48 kris is also spamton's only friend, so it's fitting for them to receive all his love, because there is just no other recipients
@paydaygh9388
@paydaygh9388 Жыл бұрын
Jaru is the only Deltarune theorist I am subscribed to because I find these videos to be fun and informative, despite me disagreeing with many conclusions. Not even 15 minutes in and I’m already having a better day.
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
I'm very happy to hear that. x)
@jacquespaught
@jacquespaught Жыл бұрын
Come to think of it, does the word Love show up anywhere throughout the Spamton Sweepstakes? Even if some parts of the event are explicitly non-canon or were written by someone other than Toby Fox, chances are he still has a final say in everything that got published that day, and he might have ensured that the term never got used to maintain consistency.
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Sadly, it is said once by Spamton’s talking about wedding rings or divorce or something like that.
@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo
@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo 5 ай бұрын
Does the context of weddings and divorce make it different enough that it doesn’t completely debunk the theory
@tobyharris4777
@tobyharris4777 Жыл бұрын
If Spamton views LOVE, as a sort of freedom, then saying Kris and the others have gifted him his freedom, actually makes perfect sense. They're giving him friendship, which works as a form of love. And he calls them friends.
@felledoesYTiguess
@felledoesYTiguess Жыл бұрын
[[Hyperlink Blocked]] sounds like a good ASMR trigger word
@n.ar.
@n.ar. Жыл бұрын
i freaking [[Hyperlink Blocked]] your content man, you're the only reason i wont ever have a short attention span with these 2 hour long videos 😎 you're one of my favorite youtubers, good luck with future videos 🛐🛐
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you like them! x)
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
The Romantic undertones of the Weird Route were something I hadn't picked up on. That's very, very interesting! When you think about it, it does fit extremely well. Now, granted, our relationship with Noelle in the Weird Route is a very toxic, abusive, and controlling "love", but I'd say it still qualifies.
@aresrivera9744
@aresrivera9744 Жыл бұрын
Also in the sweepstakes it says that the ring Spamton gives you is a wedding/engagement ring . And that all you have to do is slap it on any Hoochie mama and she’ll be yours forever
@MissAkechi
@MissAkechi Жыл бұрын
I was thinking either Love or Determination this entire video. Fell asleep half way through and then woke up for the determination theory. Was dead set that you’d be agreeing with that one, but then you mentioned love. Some of those points ( the romanticized implications of the weird route in particular ) are ones I’ve seen but never saw others mention. Then you added points that I didn’t even consider and my mind was blown. 🤯 This was a great intro to your content. 🫡
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed! I hope you like the rest. x)
@callumfinlayson-palmer8393
@callumfinlayson-palmer8393 Жыл бұрын
Having a crush on noelle the snowgrave route romantic implications is something I like even with how disturbing and abusive it actually is. It will be very interesting to see how this and the rest of deltarune developments.
@urtoryu_dy_althraidn
@urtoryu_dy_althraidn 4 ай бұрын
Surprised "Hope" (or "Hopes") isn't one of the main Single Concept Theories. For me it sounds like the obvious one. It pretty much fits every use of the term as long as you don't get stuck in grammar. Offering hope to Kris as a reward makes sense as a "you help me, I help you" contract (It's not a physical reward, but it doesn't have be one), and even the "every [hyperlink blocked]" line fits perfectly as a promise of offering Kris everything they want, whatever that may be. It also fits the idea of them being controlled possibly making them incapable of hoping for a different fate. As for the more odd cases, having the luxury of a little hope in the morning is a natural way of describing having a better life, Kris "making" hope in the Weird Route makes sense when you consider they're escaping the constraints of the prophecy, this creating the opportunity for the future to change (The next paragraph also not only fits, but in a pretty interesting way too. If [hyperlink blocked] is replacing the word "hope", then this would literally be Spamton spelling out the meaning of [hyperlink blocked] by listing said hopes) Spamton transferring his hopes into the disc fits perfectly with him putting the plan's execution in Kris' hands. The only instance it doesn't fit is "I'll become so", but that's just because of grammar, which Spamton isn't a fan of. Thematically it could easily fit there since that dialogue is all about his hopes for the future. If there's any counter argument I can think of for "hope", it'd be that the weird route specifically involves us forcing Kris to do things they hate a lot more than what we do in the normal route, so you could say it'd give them LESS hope, rather than more. But that's a pretty uncertain argument, since the weird route is less about forcing Kris to do things or making them suffer, and far more about going against the natural flow of the story, something that inherently creates room for hope if your current future seems hopeless. Also, Spamton constantly comparing Kris' wishes to his own doesn't necessarily mean Kris actually wants the same things he does, it could just be Spamton projecting and misjudging Kris' desires (their situations are clearly different after all, with Kris' ability to take off the SOUL and act on their own, as well as Spamton not being clearly puppeteered like Kris but instead seemingly just limited and constricted) For Spamton, breaking the mold might seem like the very definition of hope, which that could explain why he says it like he does in that route. "Hope" is unorthodox in how it'd fit Spamton's lines (probably why not many people think of it), but it works with the arguments for many of the other words at the same time (like "choices", "power", "control" and "happiness") while not really having any of the counter arguments for them. It's a broad word that you could argue wouldn't mean much, but it's one that fits perfectly in a thematic sense. (PS: You mentioned when talking about "power" that it'd be odd for Toby to replace a generic word with [hyperlink blocked], but I disagree on that since the point of doing so isn't necessarily to create mystery, it could also be to create atmosphere. The use of [hyperlink blocked] is a HUGE part of what makes Spamton terrifying and gives him such a high creepy factor, which is alone enough reason for Toby to do it. I'd also say hope is a lot less generic than power, as it has a much deeper meaning, not to mention Toby's already used it for important characters before) I really like the idea of "hope" because it makes [hyperlink blocked] not be some specific mystery thing separate from the other things Spamton talks about, but an encapsulation of all of them. It's important not for it's meaning necessarily, but for it's emotional impact, which makes more sense to me since Spamton's story is already concluded.
@urtoryu_dy_althraidn
@urtoryu_dy_althraidn 4 ай бұрын
Just noting, I do also think LOVE is the best theory. But I feel like Hope is probably second place, so I was surprised it wasn't brought up in the video at all.
@karstb8830
@karstb8830 Жыл бұрын
Alternate reading of "YOU'VE BEEN MAKING [CONTROL] HAVEN'T YOU?": Kris and the player are literally making control by controlling Noelle (and Kris) further
@e554
@e554 Жыл бұрын
"making control" does not make grammatical sense, gaining/establishing control does.
@karstb8830
@karstb8830 Жыл бұрын
@@e554 Implying that making grammatical sense has ever stopped Spamton
@nicefloweytheoverseer7632
@nicefloweytheoverseer7632 Жыл бұрын
True
@imnotcalamari6547
@imnotcalamari6547 Жыл бұрын
Almost all of his instances of hyperlink blocked could be used to describe beer or getting drunk this makes me think spamton is just a raging alcoholic and that he is just super drunk when talking to us
@imnotcalamari6547
@imnotcalamari6547 Жыл бұрын
And also what child would not want beer Almost every kid has had beer during a high school party without telling their parents
@Ralseify
@Ralseify Жыл бұрын
I love watching these videos on Sundays after church... It's so relaxing and fun to obsess over Deltarune, along with Jaru
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@milescoe9031
@milescoe9031 Жыл бұрын
You know what's funny? Without any previous exposure to this concept or any theories about the meaning of hyperlink blocked, I was getting ready to come down to the comment section about 20 or so minutes into your video and propose LV/Love as the suggested meaning. I figured I would wait until you offered your theory first, so it was a pleasant surprise that I shared your train of thought. The multiple meanings of violence, levels, affection, and sexual innuendo all fit the way he uses hyperlink blocked, and it has enough prior narrative weight to make a lot of sense.
@fravonzonbonn
@fravonzonbonn Жыл бұрын
kris and noelle were making WHAT in snowgrave??!?!??!
@kilokipo7765
@kilokipo7765 Жыл бұрын
I craved this video for eternity, love to you Jaru!
@jdk2535
@jdk2535 Жыл бұрын
"Furthermore, we have no evidence that Spamton has ever killed anyone." This is a factually correct statement, but it also doesn't feel right whatsoever. I've been forced to confront the fact that I subconsciously headcanon Spamton as a serial killer. Another great vid, Jaru.
@zacbrown3797
@zacbrown3797 Жыл бұрын
Bro saw the word "dubious" in his 5th grade spelling book and it changed bros life forever.
@grayblacklight560
@grayblacklight560 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm actually almost fully convinced - that's saying something, cause I'm a sceptic and a half, especially when it comes to a game with as limited information as Deltarune's current status as a demo. Very good analysis, the flow chart was a nice touch. Yeah, I think love/lv checks out; I will say that I think literal theory is still worth considering, both for all the points brought up and because Toby has shown himself to be able use the "exact words" trope very effectively in Undertale. So that's basically my #2, if it were to not be love/lv I would put my stake in that.
@pikazilla6405
@pikazilla6405 10 ай бұрын
I believe that, at least during the snowgrave route, spamton is talking to the player rather than kris. Snowgrave to me has always felt more like the players attempt to reinforce their control over kris, completely separate from anything they would ever want, this idea being suggested by the fact that kris acts extremely different in snowgrave than in any other route and in fact seems to have their voice completely replaced by the player's at some point if Noelle's dialogue about hearing a "terrifying voice" is to be believed. You mentioned that it's hard to believe that snowgrave has anything to do with kris's freedom and I absolutely agree, I believe snowgrave is a roundabout method of the player gaining complete freedom and control over kris's actions, thoughts, and behavior and this effect will only get worse and worse if more routes similar to snowgrave are included in future chapters. For this reason i believe hyperlink blocked is likely related in some way to the concept of control, or forcing your will on others, as it's easy to believe that kris AND the player want this sort of control. So i would have to disagree that the snowgrave route use of hyperlink blocked is a weakspot for the control theory, with this interpretation it's actually something that strengthens it.
@kovexplay
@kovexplay Жыл бұрын
Another Jary banger, yay! 🥳 Honestly I was previously not sure if there is a single term that could replace [[Hyperlink Blocked]] but your analysis made me much more open to the love theory. While I am uncertain the leveling up system works like the one from Undertale, this phrase fits really well with Spamton's dialogue It would be interesting if this gets explored further, maybe the next secret boss will reveal more about this system?
@PARADOX-1947
@PARADOX-1947 4 ай бұрын
Personally, I’ve always subscribed to the “LOVE/LV” theory, with the weird route’s uncomfortable romantic undertones, the power granted by LV, along with everything else. It all made so much sense to me. I was fully prepared coming into this video for you to crush the idea of love theory working, and with it, all my hopes and dreams of being right. Hearing you acually agree with the theory felt so gratifying (and justifying? Vindicating? Idk… it felt satisfying) to me. I can’t overstate the intense feelings of “OMG IM ACTUALLY NOT A COMPLETE IDIOT” this video gave me. You da best Jaru, love your videos! PS. Spamton Neo’s Wierd route monologue goes so insanely hard, especially when [hyperlink blocked] is love.
@authorlacey
@authorlacey Жыл бұрын
Really like how well love fits in here. It's thematically satisfying and also fits surprisingly well in all mentioned instances of hyperlink blocked.
@thecheck968
@thecheck968 Жыл бұрын
Saying that hyperlink blocked had to be a single concept and then settling on the only theory that was a double entendre is a very Jaru move
@roxyinabox
@roxyinabox Жыл бұрын
god your content will always be such a wonderful trip, you always construct these videos in such an entertaining and engaging way PLUS i am such a sucker for long content... legit everything i could ever want in a channel
@portuguisianbralizian3293
@portuguisianbralizian3293 Жыл бұрын
40:46 What do you mean? Kris and Noelle totally cook drugs in the Snowgrave route.
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 Жыл бұрын
She needs that SNOW
@firengel2807
@firengel2807 Жыл бұрын
I have always had the theory of [Hyperlink Blocked] standing for "Darkness". As Darkness gives form to the Dark World, and by extension to all the Darkners, it would makes sense for Spamton to want more of it, or to have it all for himself, possibly using it to free himself from his strings. By transfering into the Disk, he basically gives his "essence" as a Darkner to Kris in order to be reborn in his Neo body. As to why Kris would want Darkness, I see two possibilities : - It could be a link with the end of the chapter, where Kris literally creates Darkness by opening up a Dark Fountain, (albeit, after sealing one, but it can't be known if Kris wants to have more Darkness, or just enough Darkness under control to have a new world to explore). It could also tie in with Spamton only wanting "a little Darkness", meaning he wants at least enough for his world to exist). - It could allude to Kris wanting to use Darkness to break the link betwen them and the player, which would mean that Darkness as a force isn't so much about quantity, but about quality. Upon realizing that the Darkness of Chapter 1 or 2 aren't strong enough to break the link (or enough "pure", being the term used to describe Ralsei's fountain), Kris would seal it, and then try elsewhere to find a more potent source of Darkness. As to why Spamton accuses Kris of making "Darkness" during the Snowgrave Route, either acts of violence allow Darkness to grow stronger, meaning Spamton Neo intended to commit atrocities to further his power, or Spamton obtains knowledge of Kris' motivation to create other Dark Fountains after sealing the one of Cyber World, and blames him for wanting to keep all the Darkness to himself despite their deal (and despite Spamton intending to do the same thing). Also, Spamton never uses the word "Darkness" to my knowledge, only referring to the word "Dark" three times, and only while in his Neo Form, in which he might be strong enough to circumvent a part of what's preventing him from saying it.
@e554
@e554 Жыл бұрын
"Also, Spamton never uses the word "Darkness" to my knowledge, only referring to the word "Dark" three times, and only while in his Neo Form, in which he might be strong enough to circumvent a part of what's preventing him from saying it." you just disproved your own theory. Spamton NEO says 'Hyperlink Blocked' as a part of their dialogue, so if NEO grants him the ability to circumvent the 'hyperlink blocked' restriction, 'hyperlink blocked' cannot mean darkness.
@e554
@e554 Жыл бұрын
"Also, Spamton never uses the word "Darkness" to my knowledge, only referring to the word "Dark" three times, and only while in his Neo Form, in which he might be strong enough to circumvent a part of what's preventing him from saying it." you just disproved your own theory. Spamton NEO says 'Hyperlink Blocked' as a part of their dialogue, so if NEO grants him the ability to circumvent the 'hyperlink blocked' restriction, 'hyperlink blocked' cannot mean darkness.
@firengel2807
@firengel2807 Жыл бұрын
@@e554 His Neo form only mentions "Hyperlink Blocked" in the Snowgrave Route, and only refers to "Dark" in the Normal Route. He is not found to be inconsistant in that matter. It could indicate that there is a fundamental difference between the Neo form he obtains in each route, the only one where he is strong enough being the Normal one, possibly due to the bound he forms with Kris, which is absent in the Snowgrave Route.
@hyper_lynx
@hyper_lynx 9 ай бұрын
It's a single concept theory guys! Acutally, it's (word referring to two concepts) ! That aside, I think LOVE theory works pretty well, but I prefer a multiconcept with LOVE, Will (as in force of will, identity), and some other related words. My main hangup is that youd think for Spamton to transfer their LOVE, they would need to have some already, which... well either Spamton killed someone, or they're being randomly poetic/affectionate in a way they otherwise never do. You could argue Spamton is emotional due to Kris' success, but idk unless calling someone a [funky] little [worm] is high praise, I still read "THEN WE WILL TRANSFER MY [[Hyperlink Blocked]]" as referring to something central to Spamton's very existence. Even if Spamton does have LV (or I guess if 0 LV exists enough to call it theirs), it still feels odd that they'd call it out in this line to me. Are we to infer that saying you'll transfer your LV is tantamount to saying you'll transfer your entire being? It's just one or two numbers, depending on if EXP is part of it or not, surely there's more then like eight bytes being written to that disk. I digress. "I'LL GET SO. LOVE" also reads strangely to me. "I'LL GET SO. MUCH LOVE"? "I'LL GET SO. HIGH LV"? But then it's not just one word anymore! My current reading, then, is that Spamton uses [[Hyperlink Blocked]] to talk about multiple properties if SOULs that are (for some reason?) forbidden to discuss. LOVE can be done, Determination ("I'LL GET SO. DETERMINED"? another, maybe Will/Identity/Being for the transfer line. This is technically multiple concept but they're all related properties so to me it still works. LOVE and Determination are both symptoms of having a lot of Willpower, and are closely tied to the SOUL, so using these words interchangably or having the same oppressive force censor all of them makes like a little sense. Maybe [[Hyperlink Blocked]] occurs when Spamton wants to say something in this category, but phrases it in a way that whatever/whoever is censoring them notices and forbids.
@dummyyogurt5375
@dummyyogurt5375 Жыл бұрын
to me it just has to be "independence". it can be soaked in, it can be felt in the morning, transferring spamton's consciousness into the keygen means his independence is going in there too, and, during the snowgrave route, you *are* making independence. the game doesn't allow you to kill anyone, and yet you find a way to make yourself independent of the world's very rules by freezing the enemies. you're making your own independence by creating your own options. and saying "I'll get so [independent]" makes sense too !
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
My objection to this is that "independence" means something very similar to "freedom", to the point where nobody would blame you for using them as synonyms. Yet Spamton can say "freedom" just fine. Why would one be blocked and the other allowed?
@e554
@e554 Жыл бұрын
[independent] ≠ [independence] two different words as 'hyperlink blocked' directly contradicts the original basis of the argument that hyperlink blocked stands for one specific word, so taking your final line into account your theory just does not work. also, 'making independence' doesn't make sense with its own definition. As someone else already stated, in this context 'independence' is interchangeable with 'freedom', yet "making freedom" makes no sense either. You can 'gain' freedom/independence, you don't create or make it. bonus point: you're not 'making new options'. snowgrave is an alternate route that exists, not some new possibility created by the player. You're still confined to the boundaries of the game.
@dummyyogurt5375
@dummyyogurt5375 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@CantusTropuswhile I agree the words are very similar to us, I'd argue that they're very different in the context of deltarune. Freedom would be the ability to make your own choices within the game's rules, and independence would be making your own choices regardless of the game's rules (I'm gonna get very meta here). Kris isn't just not free because we came to possess them, they're not free because they're the main character of a video game. it's not just their circumstances tying them down, but their very world, meaning that it's not just the player that they need to get rid of, but the rules of the entire medium of video games. Like at the end of the spamton battle, cutting the strings isn't going to solve the problem. another thing is that gaster is, like the player, completely unbound by the game, which, to me, explains what made spamton (and maybe jevil) go insane : gaster telling him about the world he's in, and dangling the prize of being able to work around the rules of said world.
@dummyyogurt5375
@dummyyogurt5375 Жыл бұрын
​@@e554I personally disagree that [hyperlink blocked] is a single word, as any word that can be turned into an adjective or a verb (which is most of them, as far as I know) could easily be worked around by spamton. To me, it makes more sense for it to be an entire concept. I replied to the other commenter about why I'd differentiate between "freedom" and "independence", but, regarding snowgrave, I do think you have a point in saying we're technically not going completely against the games rules and that we're still only able to do it because the option is there. However, I feel that Noelle's presence (i.e. the character who is known to uncover secrets and glitches within games) explains that. noelle is being used as a tool for the player to use an exploit within the game, and I think that *is* creating independence from the game's rules, even if we are limiting ourselves to using the options we are given, as, despite those options being there from the beginning, we are using them in ways we're not meant to. I also feel it complements Undertale's meta-narrative pretty nicely : UT's genocide route was an exploration of the ethics of grinding within rpg games, and, according to this theory I have, snowgrave would be an exploration of the usage of glitches and exploits to get ahead in the game.
@epicdavid6180
@epicdavid6180 Жыл бұрын
It could be that when spamton repeats "I'll Get so" [hyperlink blocked]. He may be saying "I'll get so [Loved]." It would still work.
@guytakeda8258
@guytakeda8258 Жыл бұрын
I was strongly in the "control" camp due to its narrative significance- for my own part I think Gaster's experiment is trying to see if a Determined soul can create control in conditions where it shouldn't be possible- but I think you've got me convinced with this. It fits with ch2 bringing back other elements from Undertale, not only Determination but also the title music in a very upfront way in "Before the Story". On top of that, the Weird route is pretty blatantly geared to make you feel filthy with its mixed motifs of romance and manipulation, and it definitely shouldn't be overlooked that the accusatory "Making (Love)" furthers that as well as the LV connection at the same time.
@outerspaceproduction
@outerspaceproduction 7 ай бұрын
The missing data may be from queen and it got taken away when he got kicked out - it has holes mostly being the other stuff you daid but the "extra questions" thing can be explained away.
@Solibrae
@Solibrae Жыл бұрын
I've thought that [Hyperlink Blocked] most likely meant "Choice" or "Choices" for a long time, but you've made a great case for it being "Love" and "LV" so I think I have changed my mind on that!
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@ThisIsGlitch
@ThisIsGlitch 11 ай бұрын
Power, i think he says power, considering in snowgrave the save point mentions kris getting filled with power, just power, which also fits spamton dialogue " you've been making your own power "
@EpickiBanan99
@EpickiBanan99 Жыл бұрын
The thing i love about jaru is the consistent quality of the videos ❤
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Aww, thank you!
@AG92451
@AG92451 Жыл бұрын
I always thought of hyperlink blocked as different things based on the context, but your explanation makes a lot more sense!
@leritykay8911
@leritykay8911 Жыл бұрын
Papurus, Undertale: *UNDYNE WILL..! *I'M GONNA..! *I'LL BE SO..! *POPULAR, POPULAR, POPULAR! Spamton, Deltarune: *I'LL GET SO. I'LL GET SO. I'LL GET SO. I'LL GET SO. I'LL GET SO. *[Hyperlink Blocked] Not saying Hyperlink Blocked is popularity, just pointing this out, as another one of small connections between Spamton and Papyrus
@MaddieS659
@MaddieS659 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, you have to have a pretty high [HYPERLINK BLOCKED] to understand the Smurfs
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
xD
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
xD
@mchsprod
@mchsprod Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a firm believer in the “[Hyperlink Blocked] = Determination” theory, but I’m excited to see what Jaru thinks about it. Also, I’m at the part where he reads the dialogue, and every time he says “hyperlink blocked”, I just say “determination” out loud and it always fits (or, “I’ll get so [Determined]”) Edit: after finishing the vid, I have this to say: Your LOVE theory, as interesting as it is, still doesn't have the sheer "Occam's Razor"-ness of the Determination theory (I don't know how to explain, but it just "fits" too well for me). Your analysis of the Snowgrave route in this video was also very very interesting for the shipping Kris x Noelle shippers, but I'm not that invested in shipping so I don't have much to say on that. Overall, yet another insightful, entertaining, and fun Jaru video!
@nekoaile
@nekoaile Жыл бұрын
But the issue with this theory is that Kris doesn't really make determination in the Snowgrave route tho ? Or at least, it doesn't make as much sense in context as the love theory does.
@skushi8414
@skushi8414 Жыл бұрын
yeah but he isnt "making" love either, he's rather gaining or collecting it cuz LV is not something you can craft@@nekoaile
@e554
@e554 Жыл бұрын
@@skushi8414 "making" determination doesnt make sense either.
@skushi8414
@skushi8414 Жыл бұрын
@@e554 alphys was "making" it in undertale
@e554
@e554 Жыл бұрын
@@skushi8414 wrong, she was 'extracting' it and 'injecting' it. completely separate definitions.
@akiraocto9205
@akiraocto9205 Жыл бұрын
This is such a solid theory analysis video! Our amateur theoretical physicist brain did a bit of a 180 upon hearing the term "string theory", haha. I think the most solid of the multiple concepts theories is the mental block one. It gives the aire of Spamton desperately wanting to acquire/go back to something he simply can't remember- he knows it exists, he knows it's something deeply important to him, but he just *can't remember.* It's something that resonates pretty deeply and is realistic to severe trauma, especially when you consider it might line up with whatever happened to Spamton to turn him into a puppet. My favorite has to be the single concept theories of Determination and Love/LV, they both fit so well! I think it fits better than any multiple concept theory, and the duality of Love/LV is fantastic!
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@aka2384
@aka2384 Жыл бұрын
I"ve been sitting here being dissapoited at supercell killing brawl stars, (i came back to that game 3 months ago), was sure this day was gonna suck until the end, but then jaru came with a new theory! Im sure It'll be a banger as always.
@nelleriver5359
@nelleriver5359 Жыл бұрын
oof yeah i can sorta feel the disappointment with the latest brawl talk but for now we can enjoy other things and hope for the best
@HaxTheCharizard
@HaxTheCharizard Жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking "wouldn't Love be the perfect fit for everything here?" at the beginning of the video! So happy to hear that's the theory that is agreed on
@michaelkindt3288
@michaelkindt3288 Жыл бұрын
@46:02-.- I feel like it's worth mentioning that while EXP is short for "EXecution Points" in Undertale, It's traditionally sort "EXPerience", which could theoretically work as a synonym for once entire being, depending upon one's metaphysical persuasion.
@shmovinnn
@shmovinnn Жыл бұрын
great video and theory once again also much LOVE for the captions
@JaruJaruJ
@JaruJaruJ Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed! x)
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