Jason Cundy says Messi is better than Maradona was & he's seen both play! 👏⭐

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@yashpatil5465
@yashpatil5465 Жыл бұрын
Last night we saw what Mourinho said about Messi literally "when u r one on one against Messi u r dead" 😂
@FraggyStyles
@FraggyStyles Жыл бұрын
Messi can play a 6,8,10, 11,7 literally every forward position. His understanding of what everyone is doing on the pitch around him is exceptional.
@TUF68
@TUF68 Жыл бұрын
6&8? you sure?
@arroe8386
@arroe8386 Жыл бұрын
He can play OM, 10, second striker, false 9, 7, 11. But definitely not 6
@bfb187
@bfb187 Жыл бұрын
He could move central and play deep with his passing ability but definitely would need a good dm alongside him. Guys like Giggs managed to do it and he relied more on his pace then Messi down s.
@jtaco4101
@jtaco4101 Жыл бұрын
@@TUF68 nah, the 4 most forwards are enough though.
@FraggyStyles
@FraggyStyles Жыл бұрын
@@TUF68 he drops as deep as the 2 centre backs all the time, he would need help but his awareness and passing makes him similar to iniesta and xavi
@solephonic
@solephonic Жыл бұрын
messi is picking his moments to absolute perfection. what a player.
@Rodney231
@Rodney231 Жыл бұрын
Messi have the 2nd most trophies in history only behind Dani Alves...Messi also have the most goals in finals, the most Ballonn Dor, the most records, the most man of the match, the most assists. If Messi wins the world Cup, he would have win every competition he has ever played in.
@abcdefg3214
@abcdefg3214 Жыл бұрын
And been player of the tournament in every tournament he's played in, you also forgot most world playmaker of the years, and the most best player of an international tournament ever.. beyond ridiculous
@SunilSingh-eo4bl
@SunilSingh-eo4bl Жыл бұрын
@@abcdefg3214add to that 307 man of the match which 53 percent 😮. Next is ronaldo is toh 175.
@Rodney231
@Rodney231 Жыл бұрын
@Bebeto_7 so why Ronaldo that can do all this ???....only wins 1 la Liga in 9 years??? Why Ronaldo that have all these weapons doesn't have an assist or goal in knockout stages of the world Cup despite going to the world Cup on 5 different occasions ???? Why Messi have more the record for the most goals in a year despite Ronaldo being the striker??? Why didn't Ronaldo break these records??? Why does Messi beat Ronaldo majority of the times their teams compete??
@johnthompson457
@johnthompson457 Жыл бұрын
Maybe professionally, but not in history. I swept up trophies in my Sunday youth league career.
@M360-w6o
@M360-w6o Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo has more champions leagues
@bineydiawuomoses5239
@bineydiawuomoses5239 Жыл бұрын
Messi the dribbler, the goalscorer, the assist machine, the chances creator. Please can someone mention another footballer who can do this at the same time...
@lukemckee2255
@lukemckee2255 Жыл бұрын
There's prolific strikers legendary playmakers with amazing passing and vision spectacular dribblers but only messi is all of them
@davidknowles605
@davidknowles605 Жыл бұрын
17 assists in his last 24 matches for PSG and in the World Cup. This hardly gets mentioned in the mainstream
@andyhow3431
@andyhow3431 Жыл бұрын
Yeah…Maradona
@manan612
@manan612 Жыл бұрын
Only Pele
@Mozzywinters
@Mozzywinters Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo nazario
@boscojoseph5412
@boscojoseph5412 Жыл бұрын
If Messi played with Alvarez in 2014 he would have won that World Cup. Alvarez takes the chances given and presses so well unlike Higuian lost many chances that Messi gave him in 2014 and it costed Messi that World Cup. Every best player needs a good support team. And this time Messi has a good 9 infront of him.
@SuziesAshes10
@SuziesAshes10 Жыл бұрын
Hope so 💪
@EuphoriaPhysics
@EuphoriaPhysics Жыл бұрын
don't forget Lautaro Martinez's missed chances this World Cup, Alvarez and Messi will win Argentina this World Cup.
@space1734
@space1734 Жыл бұрын
*It costed Argentina the World Cup
@georgegilbert9100
@georgegilbert9100 Жыл бұрын
What about the chance he missed in that same game when he dragged his shot way pass the upright . Why single out higuin and give messi a pass because he is messi?
@boscojoseph5412
@boscojoseph5412 Жыл бұрын
@@georgegilbert9100 coz Messi creates many. U can miss one but the passes he gave Higuan that day wow
@ExposeEm419
@ExposeEm419 Жыл бұрын
Messi is a mix of all your favourite players rolled into one. Simply the greatest to ever kick a ball
@archmetcalfe9663
@archmetcalfe9663 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Agree
@l.b.9567
@l.b.9567 Жыл бұрын
If Usain Bolt won every diamond league and World Games but no Olympics would he be the best ever?
@MGOFor3ver
@MGOFor3ver Жыл бұрын
@@l.b.9567 The problem is that is a solo competition. Messi does everything a lot, but he can't always make a goal, and trophies depends a lot of that. If you know this sport, you should already know that..
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn Жыл бұрын
Simply not; Pele is the greatest to ever kick a ball. To play like him was to play like God as they say. Bring on the hilariously absurd KZbin debate:
@ExposeEm419
@ExposeEm419 Жыл бұрын
@Bebeto_7 winning header vs Man Utd in the cl final. Scored countless long range shots. Ended Boateng’s career then chipped Neuer with his right foot. Plays deeper than anyone else in his position. Just say you’re blinded by hate and go about your day
@bfb187
@bfb187 Жыл бұрын
It's 2022 and Talksport pundits are just realising Messi is the best footballer ever. In 6 years they'll be telling us Haaland is a goal machine.
@1murkeybadmayn
@1murkeybadmayn Жыл бұрын
Well he is not. Pele an maradona have him beat easy. Pele won the world cup at 17 on his own...phucking 17! Yh compete with that.
@bfb187
@bfb187 Жыл бұрын
@@1murkeybadmayn what has winning the world cup got to do with who's the best player??? Haaland is one the best strikers about but is Norwegian, never gonna win the world cup. Where you're born has zero relevance to this conversation about best players. Pele won it on his own? Are you retarded? Brazil had the best players in the world in nearly every position throughout the 60's and 70's.
@justmangojuice
@justmangojuice Жыл бұрын
The greatest ever is a daft debate. It’s a subjective choice
@philipk9783
@philipk9783 Жыл бұрын
You have to consider pitches and hatchet tackles to have a serious debate. Watch Maradona run with the ball evading tackles and controlling a bobbling ball. Maradona for me.
@1988sheldon
@1988sheldon Жыл бұрын
@Bebeto_7 you started trying to convince everyone and then you brought the bench d'or winner and lost the argument. Penaldo went to Juve and real. Not Burnley. So focus on winning interview d'or. Factos 👍
@e-maestro
@e-maestro Жыл бұрын
Messi will win the World Cup and critics will still find some means to say he is not the best, year after Year someone is always trying to find some new criteria to say Messi isn't the best, its been years we have been doing this, 10+ years and all he has been doing was providing magic and smashing records, we literally have not seen a player doing the things that he does that exceptionally well, this is a player that scored 91 goals in a calendar year who on earth does that? How many times we've seen this player do his trademark mazy runs? Pick out a pass from no where? Chip goalkeepers for fun? The crazy Solo goals? The free kicks? All the magical moments and he is still creating such moments at 35. Ronaldo is world class and also one of the greatest players this world have ever seen, but the defining difference for me is, when they both retire, people do not remember goals, stats or Trophies, they remember the magic and joy that a player brought to them.
@JuanMontefo
@JuanMontefo Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Nobody thinks of Ronaldinho stats but how he made you feel when you watched him play. People still cry watching Ronaldinho play in a charity game in his retirement.
@Candies69
@Candies69 Жыл бұрын
The clowns be saying it's rigged now, they just can't digest lol
@stevenskliros9608
@stevenskliros9608 Жыл бұрын
I was 21 in 1986 when Argentina won so i remember that amazing tournament that Maradona dominated. I refused to believe anyone could be as great as Maradona...until i saw Messi. Messi is the most naturally gifted sublime genius of a player i have ever seen. I just don't understand how people underestimate his greatness. To me Messi is not only the greatest footballer of all time but the greatest athlete i have ever seen.
@barry2924
@barry2924 Ай бұрын
I absolutely love Messi but I have my doubts Messi gets the same performances in diegos era with the physicality
@ABCD-ABCDEFGH
@ABCD-ABCDEFGH Жыл бұрын
I am surprised you guys do the show but have very little information. Pep coached in Barcelona 2008-2012 he did not coach all 15 years MESSI played. Ferguson, Pelligerini,Jose,Ancelotti, Zidane, Allegri, Benitez. Except Zidane all these coaches either won UCL or reached UCL without Ronaldo. Messi played under Pep, Enrique, Tara Martino, Valverde, Tito, Setien none of these managers have won a UCL without Messi yet even Pep. Except pep all these managers haven’t won a major trophy without Messi. When that Barcelona beat the United Ferguson and Ronaldo were right on the pitch looking at each other without any clue. Look at the Madrid that Ronaldo played or United. Did they miss him United made to another UCL final and Madrid already won same number of league titles and a UCL. Barcelona right now even after adding the best striker playing in Europa imagine that. lot of people don’t seem to know Xavi left after 2015, iniesta 2017 Messi was dragging that team to semi finals in UCL, league titles after titles. Once Neymar left the highest scorer for Barcelona after Messi was own goals. His opponent were helping him more than his own teammates. As good as Suarez in league he is awful in UCL compare his records with lewa, Benzema. If Messi had some help in his 6 finals we would have different conversations. The one international Ronaldo won when he got injured and his teammates rallied for him. Imagine that happened in 2014,15,16 there would have been multiple trophies already. The way you judge a player is not what they became when the player joins, what they became when the player leaves. Can they feel the void and replace him with someone and how long it will take? Barcelona is in progress Madrid better and strong United we’re better and strong now they are better than last season, Juventus realized the mistake and are in the process of correcting themselves.
@MarkWalmsley
@MarkWalmsley Жыл бұрын
Great post!
@nathanndabambi477
@nathanndabambi477 Жыл бұрын
You my guy deserve a medal. State all of them. This ronaldo played with less nonsense is the biggest bullshit ever. Playing in the most dominant team in the premier league at that time. Winning premier leagues in 3 consecutive seasons which were his last seasons
@carltonchristie1467
@carltonchristie1467 Жыл бұрын
Messi was great tonight to me he is the best I have seen play. Hope he go on to win the world cup
@benashworth732
@benashworth732 Жыл бұрын
It’s unquestionable that he’s the best player of all time. Look at what he’s done. Best ever.
@ssmufc9941
@ssmufc9941 Жыл бұрын
Messi is alien. The fact that Ronaldo has gotten himself compared to Messi their whole careers is a feat in itself, Ronaldo is a freak and I’ll always love him. But Messi is simply the greatest ever. Also, I think Argentina need more credit as a team no matter how brilliant Messi has been. Hate admitting it because he’s a City player, but Alvarez has been terrific!
@kamilmalinowski1267
@kamilmalinowski1267 Жыл бұрын
Argentina is very solid as team. They all play for Messi and the manager has done a brilliant job since 2019
@tripinhiphop2095
@tripinhiphop2095 Жыл бұрын
Maradona played on bad pitch’s and he was still great on them. He needs more credit for this
@ismailmiah1446
@ismailmiah1446 Жыл бұрын
Yes look at 2019 copa he complained about pitch
@billydedon3008
@billydedon3008 Жыл бұрын
And he played in an era where football was more open and less tactical and you could argue that many of his goals will be disallowed in this modern game.
@ismailmiah1446
@ismailmiah1446 Жыл бұрын
@@billydedon3008 if you say so. ..if so open why was so few goals scored in serie A by forwards. ...look what happened to Ian Rush over there...
@joebees21
@joebees21 Жыл бұрын
He could only score with his hands.
@billydedon3008
@billydedon3008 Жыл бұрын
@@ismailmiah1446 Go look and the type of scorelines that was happening in that era, back then cricket scoreline where not strange at all go check it unless you don't know much about football.
@EireTV
@EireTV Жыл бұрын
I followed Maradona from first seeing him in 1979....he was the best player....won the World Cup on his own....won the Italian title on his own (twice) vs one of the best ever team in Milan....he also done it after the butcher of Bilbao butchered him and he carried that injury in his ankle the rest of his career....you know, back in the days when players didn't win a free for falling over with a slight gust of wind.
@billydedon3008
@billydedon3008 Жыл бұрын
Playing football on drugs tho 😂 😂
@EireTV
@EireTV Жыл бұрын
@@billydedon3008 If by your hilarious jibe means playing football on drugs is performance enhancing then why is Keith Richards not the GOAT Bills? 🙄
@samo6083
@samo6083 Жыл бұрын
@eiretv LOL look how the tides have changed, messi HAS WON THE WORLD CUP!!! ,a copa America and he's won everyone in club level. He beat the champions of south america to win it in 2020, champions of Europe after smashing Italy in 2021 and then beating the champions of the world in France...There is no longer a debate, haters must concede to the fact he's the greatest to ever play 😂😂😂😂 Maradona was great but can't compete with messi in terms of goal scoring, playmaking, consistency and overall DOMINANCE IN EUROPEAN FOOTBALL. Also couldn't win a league title in Spain... or a copa America, same goes for pele who never won a continental trophy or the playmaking level of messi Messi literally has no holes in his resume, he's done it all. Checkmate...
@MJ-tb4sx
@MJ-tb4sx Жыл бұрын
and when players weren't good enough tonwin a game on their own so would result to handballs into the net
@jcl644
@jcl644 Жыл бұрын
I agree, Messi mayy have the better stats and may just edges Maradona from a technical standpoint, but Maradona is still the Goat, by far!
@theblues8840
@theblues8840 Жыл бұрын
He’s arguably the best goal scorer best assister best dribbler best free kick taker, who else can all these things apply to? Messi undeniably the best to ever do it
@TheKnowledge1
@TheKnowledge1 Жыл бұрын
Best football brain. Best decision making. Best finishing. Best vision. Best passing. Best dribbling. Best change of direction.. and so on
@jagjit4001
@jagjit4001 Жыл бұрын
Cant argue with that, but messi and cr7 needed each other to become the two greatest
@wee6331
@wee6331 Жыл бұрын
He's even improved his penalty game after first miss.
@JRWW_EFC
@JRWW_EFC Жыл бұрын
“Messi had poor first season with PSG” he literally broke the assist record for the French top flight that season, these guys chat about leagues other than Prem having never actually watched them
@kto1090
@kto1090 Жыл бұрын
Messi has gone through multiple transitions of Barcelona squads. Ronaldinho, eto’o era. Henry Ibra era. Villa Pedro era. Suarez Neymar era. Braithwaite era 😂 and kept Barca at the top throughout. Everyone who knows football knows how difficult squad and manager transitions are.. look at Liverpool this season, United since fergie left. Messi made all those transitions seem seamless. Messi played in one of the greatest versions of teams ever, but in a lot of mediocre ones too. We all saw what happened to Barca when Messi left. Went from winning the Copa Del Rey and finishing 2nd, to fighting for a champions league spot the very next season. In my opinion that needs to be something that demonstrates how good Messi is, instead of an argument against him. Ronaldo didn’t stick around to help united through a transition. Ronaldo was at Madrid with their new galacticos until they all got too old and left. And went to Juve, who were top of Serie A for years. Yes, Ronaldo has won it everywhere - that’s insane. But has he carried mediocre squads through tough times? No. The “he’s done it everywhere” argument alone doesn’t mean Ronaldo is outright better. Staying in a league for 17 years, going through multiple squad and managerial changes (some of them absolute shocking btw) and still carrying those teams and making them look a lot better than they actually were, that’s really difficult too. I don’t think any other player in history could have done that. Consistently making teams a lot better just by him being there. Look at this Argentina squad, position for position they are no where near the strongest team. Yet they beat a fantastic Brazil squad to the Copa America in 2020 and are in the WC final. He has 7 goal contributions this WC, and look at the quality of his GCs. Penalties aside, brilliant goal against Australia, out of this world assists against NED and Croatia. He is the GOAT.
@forevergooner4400
@forevergooner4400 Жыл бұрын
Messi does things Ronaldo can only dream of doing. The guy in his prime would dribble past everyone and score.
@rameeziqbal8711
@rameeziqbal8711 Жыл бұрын
Of course you had to bring Ronaldo. Cringe
@soloplays4557
@soloplays4557 Жыл бұрын
Arsenal fan being cringe again just appreciate both man I prefer Messi but no need to disrespect ronaldo at the same time
@godfirst3855
@godfirst3855 Жыл бұрын
Yes we saw him been a goalkeeper at the World Cup without been book 😂
@barry4649
@barry4649 Жыл бұрын
Stop going at Ronaldo to praise Messi. Both are absolutely great and we will be lucky to see any player anywhere near as good as either were for the next 50 years
@forevergooner4400
@forevergooner4400 Жыл бұрын
@@soloplays4557 Is it your opinion or mine. I said what I said. Keep it pushing.
@JoshuaOtusanya
@JoshuaOtusanya Жыл бұрын
Messi is the greatest of all time
@xavieraltimiras2918
@xavieraltimiras2918 Жыл бұрын
I like talkSport a lot but some of us , here in Barcelona, have seen Messi since he was 13 and you are just a bunch of CR fan boys I am sorry. You don't analize what happens on the pitch, you just analize the rsults and the numbers...this is not NBA people!!!
@xavieraltimiras2918
@xavieraltimiras2918 Жыл бұрын
@Bebeto_7 💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤💤
@stephenb9510
@stephenb9510 Жыл бұрын
@Bebeto_7 you do realise the Portuguese side is far superior overall then the Argentina side for the past 10 years?
@emceesnooze
@emceesnooze Жыл бұрын
@@RiberyGDL😂😂😂
@nh.zenith31
@nh.zenith31 Жыл бұрын
If you are taking a player of a WC final in sunday game in his prime, you take the 2012 Messi anyday. The year he scored 91 goals in that season and toyed one of the greatests teams ever played (incl. Mighty Real Madrid) whenever he stepped in the field. Barcelona were the best team ever played because of Messi. He was the one who was winning games for them single handedly. Otoh Ronaldo, Look at the team he played in his prime. ManUtd was The Team even without Ronaldo. Then he moved to Real Madrid, they have always been among the best teams. Then he moved to Juve, a series Serie A winner. What happened to them afterwards and also to United?? Ronaldo were always carried by a the best players around him. Look at the names he played alongside him(from attack to defense). Look where Barcelona and Real Madrid found them Messi Ronaldo left them. Barcelona had the biggest declining ever when real madrid still shining like old days. Look at Messi again in International stage, the teammates he played with in 2014 WC and some of Argentina’s Copa America teams. Most of his teammates were barely a starter for their respective clubs!! They still managed to play multiple finals because of Messi. (Argentina, Lionel Messi are so big that you don't see a team being second in a tournament as a success. You expect more and rightly so, because its Lionel Messi). Now Argentina are a good team, not even close to the best. Look what's Messi doing with this team, even being 35yo, and nowhere near 50% of prime Messi. Now look at Portugal team, the players they playing at very top level from defense to attack. Its clear that they don’t want to play with Cristiano Ronaldo. They cannont say it in public. But they showed it in the pitch and off the pitch as well. You cannot describe a Lionel Messi by stats and numbers, even tho they are Astronomical. This man can do and see things in the pitch that nobody cannot. Cristiano Ronaldo made this conversation by openly claiming himself the best. And got the biggest fanbases (United and Real Madrid) to back him up. And Media got their "Rivalry" thing to spice it up. 🙏
@ayoolamuideen2950
@ayoolamuideen2950 Жыл бұрын
You have the best comment up here, love ut
@MrJonnyl123
@MrJonnyl123 Жыл бұрын
Na that Barcelona team he played on from 2009 to 12 am was ridiculous. That team of Catalans won the euros twice and a World Cup back to back without messi
@nh.zenith31
@nh.zenith31 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJonnyl123 Yet among the 4 goals spain scored in the final, 3 of them scored by non~barcelona players. xavi-iniesta won’t give you goals
@EireTV
@EireTV Жыл бұрын
most of that Barca team were double Euros winners and World Cup champions??? You are kidding right?? Without using google name the Napoli teams??
@petersmith8037
@petersmith8037 Жыл бұрын
Jason’s obviously forgot watching maradona play though 😂
@christosnikitakis6675
@christosnikitakis6675 Жыл бұрын
As a 55 yr old ex footballer, I remember like yesterday, watching Maradona win the Cup in 1986. His 5 gls + 5 assists won him the golden ball. He was magic. But Messi, doing it against tougher opposition, and with today's talent, broke 7 WCup records while winning it. Nobody is like Messi. Messi makes it look easy. Maradona took some falls, and he dove a lot. Hate to admit it, but he always got fouled and tripped. Messi doesn't fall. He continues.....
@matkhairi6206
@matkhairi6206 Жыл бұрын
when he touch the ball something does happening. incomparable to any players ever existed.he is totally out off this globe
@allosaurusfragilis7782
@allosaurusfragilis7782 Жыл бұрын
Maradona was freaky to watch and did things I've never seen before or since. Messi is probably my favourite from the modern era. The game is a little different bow, pitches are better. There's no right answer to that question. Enjoy messis last couple of years.
@allosaurusfragilis7782
@allosaurusfragilis7782 Жыл бұрын
@Hayder Al-Mohammad yh, he was nuts and in lated life it showed. When he first appeared though, we were mesmerised. Different era. I've had this conversation about tennis players , f1 drivers etc. It's never conclusive. Keeps their memory alive....
@TheKnowledge1
@TheKnowledge1 Жыл бұрын
Always found it crazy how we’ve been lucky enough to watch Messi in his prime and you get people questioning who the greatest ever is 🤯 why do you watch football if you don’t understand it?
@redscouse8568
@redscouse8568 Жыл бұрын
I think the question of who's the greatest of all time and who's a petulant man - child has been answered once and for all in this world cup.
@faisalimran2763
@faisalimran2763 Жыл бұрын
I am 55 and have seen Maradona and Messi but for me Maradona as a footballer stands higher than anyone...i still watch his videos and give me goosebumps
@karnaevankhell8034
@karnaevankhell8034 Жыл бұрын
i understand maradona showed invincibility and messi doesn't, maybe because tackling was career ending and ground conditions weren't as good as now.
@harshareddy5407
@harshareddy5407 Жыл бұрын
@@karnaevankhell8034 his career ended bcoz of drugs and all not bcoz of fckng tackles...
@legendovbago4716
@legendovbago4716 Жыл бұрын
Just like me Pele was out of this world
@bewleyberry
@bewleyberry Жыл бұрын
@@harshareddy5407 No
@harshareddy5407
@harshareddy5407 Жыл бұрын
@@bewleyberry yes...drugs and parties took a toll on his physique...he became slow and fat by the age of 30...tackles was just an excuse
@bineydiawuomoses5239
@bineydiawuomoses5239 Жыл бұрын
In the history of football there is no footballer who creates chances, dribbles, set the tempo of the game and also score goals at a quick rate like Messi. Some score goals, others are good dribblers , other create chances but if you want the full package then it has to be Messi..
@YaShaheed
@YaShaheed Жыл бұрын
Pele = GOAT 🐐 Let’s not all be like Micah Richards and have no idea of life on Earth pre-1986
@jamiecook4288
@jamiecook4288 Жыл бұрын
“Ronaldo has done it in other countries.” Messi was so good that the best team in Europe wanted to keep him as their focal point. He showed a lot of loyalty to them during his prime years.
@danielgbeja1321
@danielgbeja1321 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is also pointing out the fact that Ronaldo has hardly ever won anything with any of the teams he joined that they didn't win the season before he joined..
@jamiecook4288
@jamiecook4288 Жыл бұрын
@@danielgbeja1321 agreed. ManU had success down to a tremendous manager and team. Real Madrid had a financial powerhouse of a team (not refuting that Ronaldo was unreal at Madrid). Juventus. He undoubtedly made worse when he joined. They went from a hard working, tough to beat team, to a predicable play that focused on trying to get the ball to their glamour superstar. ManU. Less said the better. Made them a worse team. Scored loads of goals that another player would / could have scored (and another player would have worked harder in other aspects.
@danielgbeja1321
@danielgbeja1321 Жыл бұрын
@@jamiecook4288 💯 exactly. As Jose Mourinho once said "Sometimes the best transfer is the player you retain". Also, sometimes the best player is the one who stays and repeats excellence in spite of ups and downs at the club. It's easier to find motivation when you're part of a new project every few years. The true test of quality is the ability to do it at the same place for many years even with regression in the system. That's literally Messi at Barca... I don't rate him for his younger years as much as the last 5 seasons dragging a rottening club to trophies.
@Shaziqbal80
@Shaziqbal80 Жыл бұрын
Maradona may not have all the accolades but he was like Muhammad Ali he was the peoples champ he was a rockstar on and off the pitch
@jankorthorst89
@jankorthorst89 Жыл бұрын
Messi gets pushed by fifa. They organised copa america 2 times more than usual for him. They give Messi bogus penalties etc. Hes a cheater and Maradona is far better, but these kids never saw him play
@francisdarin614
@francisdarin614 Жыл бұрын
@@jankorthorst89 Ye, maradona is definitely not a cheater.....
@edsonmawalla4203
@edsonmawalla4203 Жыл бұрын
@@jankorthorst89 the only thing Maradona was better in was taking drugs
@francisdarin614
@francisdarin614 Жыл бұрын
@@Jcall9 It was sarcasm
@davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
@davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 Жыл бұрын
There we go…the fact that Maradona names still being mentioned tells me everything about who’s the goat 🐐 ! This debate is like the MJ and lebron debate. Messi is chasing a ghost, let it be! Enjoy Messi in his era, leave Maradona in his era.
@efraimdayoni4584
@efraimdayoni4584 Жыл бұрын
Tbh he not really chasing anymore believe me I think deep down he knows he knows he won over everyone despite WC.
@Lu149
@Lu149 Жыл бұрын
Damn nostalgia clouding your judgement again. Messi trumps him at everything. He’s like a Maradona 2.0!
@davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
@davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 Жыл бұрын
@@Lu149 nostalgia?? First i never seen Maradona play except clips we all see online or our parents tapes that were lucky to see them guys play. Messi doesn’t do anything that we haven’t seen Maradona do before, so how can he be a player 2.0? What’s Messi game based on? Don’t worry i will wait…why do you guys keep comparing the 2 together? Don’t worry i will wait also, Messi had a phenomenal career and is a phenomenal player and talent. Why can’t u guys just appreciate players instead of comparing. You can never compare era in any sport, so you guys keep comparing players are the one deluded. Maradona was at a lev nobody was around for him to be compare to, he has been the bench mark for every comparison in world football, like a focal point of any debate, that alone should tell you anything u should know. You guys can’t mention Messi name without bringing a player that stop playing over 20 years ago and is already dead.
@davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
@davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 Жыл бұрын
@@efraimdayoni4584 won what exactly? You guys are the only one comparing him with his idol.
@robz8701
@robz8701 Жыл бұрын
What Maradona did at Napoli gives him the edge! That’s like Messi winning the Prem at Everton
@soufldn21
@soufldn21 Жыл бұрын
Lol, u don’t know much about football history do you. Go check out the players Napoli brought in
@alid7192
@alid7192 Жыл бұрын
Id say its more like Tottenham/Newcastle winning the prem that Napoli side was good.
@bustamamabdulhamid6568
@bustamamabdulhamid6568 Жыл бұрын
@@soufldn21 ..the first championship with napoli was with nobody...after that only napoly bought good player.
@kezzabanana4958
@kezzabanana4958 Жыл бұрын
Maradona has always been my favourite footballer of all time by a country mile, as a 45 year old ive watched him all my life since before 1986! But what can I say! I never thought id say Lionel messi was as good as Maradona let alone better! Hes better! An absolute superstar of a footballer, uniquely talented in every way. The way he just strolls around the pitch waiting for the opportunity to pounce like a great white shark is phenomenal. Best footballer the world has ever seen, and will see for a very long time. ❤️🌍
@LB-Gaming-
@LB-Gaming- Жыл бұрын
Yeah and he doesn't need to cheat with handball goals to be considered the greatest either
@yes-wh1zj
@yes-wh1zj Жыл бұрын
@Bebeto_7 so he should leave the best team in the world, the team that gave him everything, to join a bad team to prove himself? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?
@ybx1926
@ybx1926 Жыл бұрын
@Bebeto_7 A handball in the middle of the pitch is the big issue but a goal with it isn't 😂 Messi is twice the player diego ever was, and what challenges do you like him to do? Go help stoke win the championship? The the best player itw for the past decade what would he do downgrade? The carry job he's done to one of the worst barca sides in his last 4 years then is more of challenge then any top player could do there was no barca, it was Messi FC the club was only even thinking and staying in contention for trophies just because of him and he did that week in week out, he never wanted to go to france and if an exit was on his mind only city was his preference but them buying grealish just days before they annou6his departure ended that option, Messi is 35 so ligue 1 or the Austrian league it doesn't matter at his age Diego an overweight retired coco sniffer, the consistency is simply incomparable, diego is the only player comparable to messi but he's just behind him 👍
@garymanders1273
@garymanders1273 Жыл бұрын
@@LB-Gaming- Messi has cheated plenty of times...yes Maradona handled the ball and i hated him at the time for it...but when you look closely at that time and the unbelievable pressure he was under from outside and himself to lift a countries head back up which had become a failed state and he was never a player that went down easily generally and took an amazing amount of punishment while playing to dominate a world cup as he did without the favouritism protection that todays gifted players get...there has not been a player before or after him that has performed to such a high level in such circumstance.
@leonmorgan5659
@leonmorgan5659 Жыл бұрын
@@LB-Gaming- Diego Maradona wasn’t considered the greatest because he scored a handball, but was in spite of it! It was because of his overall ability and skills
@Wladislav
@Wladislav Жыл бұрын
On one hand he's naturally gifted, on the other hand he was naturally disadvantaged.
@Mesopotamia1
@Mesopotamia1 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100% and I’m lucky to watch both players over the years
@amooolusina6978
@amooolusina6978 Жыл бұрын
It is difficult to compare the GOATs. Messi: Most efficient ever Maradona: Most magical ever Pele: Most complete ever Cristiano: Most prolific ever Di Stefano: Most complete UCL player ever.
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 Жыл бұрын
Most sensible post I've ever seen on this topic. Acknowledged all their good points without any "Penaldo" or "Pessi" nonsense 😂
@richarddordoye7300
@richarddordoye7300 Жыл бұрын
In that order for me
@flo.wartz17
@flo.wartz17 Жыл бұрын
ronaldo is complete
@legendovbago4716
@legendovbago4716 Жыл бұрын
@@flo.wartz17 bro Pele was the most complete,,he would assist,head,score freekicks,long shots and dribble same way
@thabomashale6728
@thabomashale6728 Жыл бұрын
@@flo.wartz17 how is Ronaldo complete? can he pass better? can he playmaker better? can he assist better? Rubbish
@user-rf4vf5gi2l
@user-rf4vf5gi2l Жыл бұрын
The "Messi only did it in Spain" deserves that Robert Downey Jr. meme look
@parkerdollar
@parkerdollar Жыл бұрын
There was a god-like figure to Maradona when he was on the pitch, I will still say Maradona.
@moustaphamoussabouh9985
@moustaphamoussabouh9985 Жыл бұрын
For me, it's impossible to say who's the true GOAT because football has such a long history. However in my lifetime, I can say he's by far I've ever watched. I'm 37 years so I can say I've watched a fair bit of football
@mrsix344
@mrsix344 Жыл бұрын
No GOATs in football You can't compare eras, you can't compare teams and teammates as players don't chose their teammates. Maradona played in bad pitches, defenders who will wrestle you to the ground without fear of yellow cards or red, he took a mid table team in Napoli to win league and uefa cup, a team that Messi I believe wouldn't carry past giants of the era great Milan team, Juventus, Inter, Verona, Sampdoria etc Play maradona in today's pitches, light firendly footballs,new training and management methods and I don't think Messi will catch Maradona, but again the eras comparison is absurd, what if maradona couldn't flourish in today's media scrutiny, games overload, and highly disciplined environment l? Probably maradona wouldn't be maradona in today's game, and Messi would've been Messi in maradonas time...GOAT is subjective, I appreciate Messi but emotionally cheering for Diego, a human like me after all.messi looks like a machine. And football isab emotional game and the most emotional of all greats is my GOAT
@zxtsf
@zxtsf Жыл бұрын
Has foot ball developed or not? Has players thinking developed? Has goalies and defenders improved? Has teams changed or not? Has coaches developed or not? Has game videos studied today more zan ever? If ze answer iz yes zen today's players their coaches and everything are better zan players zat lived before 50 years or some. So if I beat today's players ze way messi did . I don't need you witnessing my Greatness. Messi s Greatness is not to be measured by you. But by the Billions of Hearts that involuntarily beat for Leo. Count his goals. Study his playmaking abilities .count his assists. Watch his stats. Ask the great defenders. Consult great goalies. Discuss with coaches. Ask ze football specialists .YOU WILL KNOW HIS HAS ALREADY SURPASSED EVERY RECORD. PLUS DREAM LIKE EMOTIONAL ENTERTAINMENT WHICH NO OTHER ONE COULD PROVIDE. EMOTIONAL =RATIONAL IF A MAN IS WEAK EMOTIONALY HE IS EITHER LAZY OR MENTAL POOR . A MENTALY POOR PERSON SHOULD STUDY STATISTICS ONLY. common sense is not a gift it is a punishment because you cannot teach it to zose who don't have it.
@zxtsf
@zxtsf Жыл бұрын
@@mrsix344Has foot ball developed or not? Has players thinking developed? Has goalies and defenders improved? Has teams changed or not? Has coaches developed or not? Has game videos studied today more zan ever? If ze answer iz yes zen today's players their coaches and everything are better zan players zat lived before 50 years or some. So if I beat today's players ze way messi did . I don't need you witnessing my Greatness. Messi s Greatness is not to be measured by you. But by the Billions of Hearts that involuntarily beat for Leo. Count his goals. Study his playmaking abilities .count his assists. Watch his stats. Ask the great defenders. Consult great goalies. Discuss with coaches. Ask ze football specialists .YOU WILL KNOW HIS HAS ALREADY SURPASSED EVERY RECORD. PLUS DREAM LIKE EMOTIONAL ENTERTAINMENT WHICH NO OTHER ONE COULD PROVIDE. EMOTIONAL =RATIONAL IF A MAN IS WEAK EMOTIONALY HE IS EITHER LAZY OR MENTAL POOR . A MENTALY POOR PERSON SHOULD STUDY STATISTICS ONLY. common sense is not a gift it is a punishment because you cannot teach it to zose who don't have it.
@mrsix344
@mrsix344 Жыл бұрын
@@zxtsf You sound like maradona played in 1920s or 40s....1970, 1980,1990 football isn't much different from what is required now. I don't know your background or which other sport you watch,bit one thing records don't make you the best ever. Neymar probably has more goals and assist than Maradona but not one person on this planet is seriously thinking Neymar is better than Maradona. Read my comment and understand you can't argue on something which isn't absolute fact. gOAT is a subjective matter, everyone has their GOATs. You didnt get me on emotional part of Diego's maradona game, take Messi and play him against England in 1986 just 3 years after the Falklands war between Britain and Argentina's and I don't think Messi would ve the guts to score those two goals, he would ve been overwhelmed and I've watched Messi he gets overwhelmed at 5imes and disappear from mental challenges the game requires. Maradona relish these challenges.
@jorgemansilla9043
@jorgemansilla9043 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo is a goal machine. Messi creates. Ronaldo would not be able to create that third goal we saw today against Croatia.
@simbaking6338
@simbaking6338 Жыл бұрын
Messi the gifted GOAT...back in the finals ...to win it!
@jazminew38
@jazminew38 Жыл бұрын
Son of Zion! Goat!
@Detroiy2k
@Detroiy2k Жыл бұрын
Most naturally gifted player I seen was R9,he was doing ridiculous things on the ball,injuries robbed us of a true elite 😤
@youssefben7535
@youssefben7535 Жыл бұрын
Not on messi level and I have seen r9 with eidhoven and barca and inter. But yeah.. elphenomeno was something
@ShaneJoshua1980
@ShaneJoshua1980 Жыл бұрын
@@youssefben7535 I disagree that guy was unreal never seen anything like him since, pure raw power, finesse, left foot, right foot and his head.
@ShaneJoshua1980
@ShaneJoshua1980 Жыл бұрын
@A Nigerian ninja He could do it all, the only thing he didn't have was a free kick. If he'd not been Injured and stayed at Barca he would have been unreal.
@mustafabile897
@mustafabile897 Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to see R9 and brazil live 4 times in 1997. 3 training sessions and the match Brazil vs Norway. It was one of the highlights of my life. R9 was out of this world.
@l.b.9567
@l.b.9567 Жыл бұрын
R9 was great but he could not carry Ronaldinho,s jockstrap where ball skills are concerned
@justmangojuice
@justmangojuice Жыл бұрын
If you know football, you will know the hardest part requires more creativity, energy and skill, is the playmaker which Messi was. CR7 was a tap in and penaldo specialist. a great scorer. In terms of football skills playmaker> goal scoring. And Messi still scored incredible amount of goals.
@CJVP99
@CJVP99 Жыл бұрын
R9 is most naturally gifted actually
@FatTodd
@FatTodd Жыл бұрын
Facts
@FatTodd
@FatTodd Жыл бұрын
RONALDO NAZARIO IS THR MOST TALENTED UNSTOPPABLE FORCE FOOTBALL HAS SEEN
@traderhindsfx9703
@traderhindsfx9703 Жыл бұрын
only correct comment here sir
@utopia9606
@utopia9606 Жыл бұрын
People who have a deep insight into football know the WC doesn't DEFINE the best player. It's a competition with highest regard and glory but it doesn't necessarily have to standards or a decider who is the best player. In order for the WC to be a decider who is the best players of all time, it's gotta be a more fair competition for all of players on planet.
@mcg354
@mcg354 Жыл бұрын
Maradona is the best cause he can still do after 21 grams and totally off his head.
@crazee635
@crazee635 Жыл бұрын
Maradona the party boy who played on pitches like mud baths getting kicked from pillar to post and still he did AMAZING things. Maradona is not only better than Messi, he is the most gifted footballer of all time.
@a_designs2369
@a_designs2369 Жыл бұрын
love messi from st.petersburg, Russia
@ybx1926
@ybx1926 Жыл бұрын
Of all the managers in Messi's career none have won the UCL before coaching him nor after, he makes them not the other way around
@markokrunic6325
@markokrunic6325 Жыл бұрын
Messi is a pure genius.
@benjaminjeffery6873
@benjaminjeffery6873 Жыл бұрын
i remember when people had already seen enough evidence of individual ability in 2012 to proclaim him goat. Had he sustained a career threading injury in 2013 or retired then id still call him the goat. Only Ronaldinho rivals him for pure footballing aesthetic bliss with his street skills, but as as someone who is a master of space and the game itself, we won't see someone like Messi for a very long time. The amount of joy seeing the little man just turn several players legs into spaghetti at once is something i don't have the words to describe.
@EireTV
@EireTV Жыл бұрын
great....how many times did you watch Maradona play....or Pele?? KZbin?
@M360-w6o
@M360-w6o Жыл бұрын
R9 and Ronaldinho are the most naturally gifted
@waynebutler7602
@waynebutler7602 Жыл бұрын
Messi wouldn't have lasted during the Maradona era, he would have been a target just like Diego was. Tackling back then was brutal compared to today's tinkerbells!
@Maroon498
@Maroon498 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen both play too and I still think it’s Maradona. Watched loads of videos of Pele too when I was younger and he was phenomenal aswell. Pele scored well over a thousand goals and won three world cups. He has to be spoken about on the same level as the others. I don’t think there’s a right answer it all comes down to opinions. But Maradona joined an average Napoli side and won two scudettos against all the odds. I don’t think we’ll ever see that again.
@bisiriyutajudeen5728
@bisiriyutajudeen5728 Жыл бұрын
Absolute rubbish. Maradona could only dream of doing what Messi does. Messi is all of your favorite players rolled in one. And stop with the nonsense of maradona going to Napoli and winning a scudetto, he never won a European cup aka champions league either even though you claim he’s better. When we access how great someone is, we look at all factors of footballing abilities and not just trophies won. Maradona won’t lace Messi’s boot. What you’re suffering from is nostalgia.
@tironcivjeter1200
@tironcivjeter1200 Жыл бұрын
Noooooooo
@Maroon498
@Maroon498 Жыл бұрын
I also said it comes down to difference of opinion. Not everyone thinks like you, it’s ok to disagree with someone and not be a clown about it and have a proper conversation. You think it’s Messi I think it’s Maradona. What’s the problem? You talk about Maradona like he was some dud that played Sunday league. He was unbelievable Maradona! So was Pele!
@bfb187
@bfb187 Жыл бұрын
Definitely opinions but I will say that Napoli side weren't as bad as people make out. He definitely, 100% dragged them to victory but they had some great players and Maradona had a hand in some signings too. Ferrara, Renica, Francini, Di Napoli, Alemao..... Maradonas strike partner was Careca, a great Brazilian striker who was at his peak. One of the greatest partnerships in football history.
@rickzane6433
@rickzane6433 Жыл бұрын
Maradona also played in an era during which tackling a player's shin or knee was acceptable. Good ol' days of violent football. Also Maradona cheated in 1986 game against England. Messi never cheats, except on his tax returns. VAR could have picked that up in a jiffy. Comparing players from different eras is futile.
@balerion77
@balerion77 Жыл бұрын
1:51 Really? If he made that statement in 2009 , THAT would be a huge statement. Not after what Messi has done for 16 years.
@adrianmarrinan7707
@adrianmarrinan7707 Жыл бұрын
People who saw Maradonna play will always choose him. Probably just for his personality alone. But what he did in a time when he was kicked (hard) for 90 minutes every game as opposed to Messi who has never been kicked once. The career he had at Barca with the likes of Xavi and Iniesta compared to Maradonna winning difficult leagues for weak teams. The standard of the teams/defenders these days compared to Maradonna's time, its pretty average. I dont care how good a player is, if he literally walks around for 99% of the game....
@francisdarin614
@francisdarin614 Жыл бұрын
Never kicked once? Have you just started watching football. Messi was kicked left right and center during the classicos. And even during the copa semi final vs colombia.
@adrianmarrinan7707
@adrianmarrinan7707 Жыл бұрын
@@francisdarin614 lol
@mjron1269
@mjron1269 Жыл бұрын
💞Messi
@garythefishable
@garythefishable Жыл бұрын
Messi vs Maradona is the only true GOAT debate worth having. Just wish they were English 😔
@Dan-eq6po
@Dan-eq6po Жыл бұрын
English players are crap lol 😂
@Maroon498
@Maroon498 Жыл бұрын
Pele?
@blackngold007
@blackngold007 Жыл бұрын
Aguero has more goals for Argentina than Maradona.. Messi is the clear GOAT
@erickarias3309
@erickarias3309 Жыл бұрын
@@blackngold007 Maradona won a world cup, something Messi will never do.
@blackngold007
@blackngold007 Жыл бұрын
@@erickarias3309 André Schürrle has a World Cup, according to your logic he's better than Ronaldo? XD
@LloydChristmasAspen
@LloydChristmasAspen Жыл бұрын
Best world cup in a looooong time.
@ragnarok283
@ragnarok283 Жыл бұрын
Worst.
@alid7192
@alid7192 Жыл бұрын
Eaisly
@Dreadeye66
@Dreadeye66 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure you can call this one as when Maradona played, tackling was allowed & hard tackling at that. I always wonder how good Maradona would be in this present day football, when the top players know they are going to lose the ball & fall over & get a freekick. Messi is out of this world & so was Maradona, but I would never say one was better than the other because they played in different era's
@Artesian_mirage
@Artesian_mirage Жыл бұрын
💯
@EireTV
@EireTV Жыл бұрын
well thats a very interesting point.....imagine they were in the same team? You think Messi would be taking free kicks or penalties with Maradona around?? pffft
@jamesmcgarrie9878
@jamesmcgarrie9878 Жыл бұрын
When you look at the quality of players that Diego faced and absolutely terrioised back in the day the players nowadays don't have a patch on the older generation so for me Diego is still the best player just my opinion 🙌
@pallyali786
@pallyali786 Жыл бұрын
Seen them both play. I have to pick Maradona. What he did in 86 and also at Napoli will never ever be replicated. He had an aura about him when he was playing. He played in an era where everyone was kicking lumps out of him all over the pitch. Just check the videos. Would put Messi at No 2.
@EireTV
@EireTV Жыл бұрын
I am with you 100% pally.....he had the swagger that went with the skills....Messi was lucky to play in the era of fouls for running towards another player with the intention of tackling him....I would love to see how he would get on with the 1980s Italian defenders ....they would break him up.
@ReverZe83
@ReverZe83 Жыл бұрын
Hey I respect your opinion but I disagree completely, players need to be protected, it's not fucking rugby lads. Messi started playing in the early 00s, he's got hacked plenty of times and he gets up and keeps going, Maradona was a phenomenon but he comes 2nd to Messi. Messi is doing it in the proffesional era where every player is a fine tuned machine and he is making them look average. This is the argument everyone uses, "he wouldn't hack in the 80s" we'll never know and I concede Maradona could have easily made it in the professional era, although he did love the booger sugar so maybe not 🤷‍♂️
@AzAkh60
@AzAkh60 Жыл бұрын
What Maradona did at Napoli was more impressive than the WC at 86, considering serie a at the time was probably the hardest league in the history of football. Players like Messi and C.Ronaldo couldn't have done that as they both always played for superb teams and needed other world class players around them.
@ReverZe83
@ReverZe83 Жыл бұрын
@@AzAkh60 righto mate, they probably couldn't have snorted as much hoover as him either 🤣
@EireTV
@EireTV Жыл бұрын
@@ReverZe83 I agree that players need to be protected but that is not the point......the point is back in those days you had to stand up and protect yourself and ride the tackles...watch the infamous battle when he was in Spain and throwing karate kicks at players coming for him.....look at him being hacked down from behind by multiple players trying to take him out of the game trying to break an ankle.....and succeeding....Messi would never have survived back then because he is a dwarf.......that is my point!! That is why Maradonas career was shorters.....more injuries and more time to indulge off the field....so the real question is could Messie survive back in the 80s with those players and that culture...answer is no.....could Maradona have won all the trophies in this era playing with all the players Messi played with and the culture of frees for blowing kisses......Yep
@powerplant.
@powerplant. Жыл бұрын
That's that then lads. Pack up your things, the debate is over and WE NEVER NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. Please?
@RedDevilSkillz
@RedDevilSkillz Жыл бұрын
It’s been over for 10 years
@PMan-nf5zi
@PMan-nf5zi Жыл бұрын
Messi fan here from Oklahoma. Let’s get it🏆
@brayam0372
@brayam0372 Жыл бұрын
Broken arrow here
@soeradjnarain341
@soeradjnarain341 Жыл бұрын
I am sick of people trying to convince eachother that it is important to win the worldcup in order to be recognized as the GOAT. If Burruchaga didn't score in the 1986 finals, Maradonna might not have won a WC. Would that then diminish his greatness? The only difference is that with Messi, the 2014 WC finals were lost because Higuain missed his clearcut chances for Argentina to win it. So Messi is being punished by his teammate's incompetence and not becomming the GOAT because of that? Ridiculous!!
@l.b.9567
@l.b.9567 Жыл бұрын
If Usain Bolt won every diamond league and every word games but zero Olympics, would he be in the goat conversation?
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 Жыл бұрын
Messi missed a fantastic chance in that final to be fair.
@jimsim8736
@jimsim8736 Жыл бұрын
@@monkey39128 It wasn’t fantastic, shots at an angle to the goal never are, see them missed more than scored. Higuain and Palacios however did miss great chances.
@soeradjnarain341
@soeradjnarain341 Жыл бұрын
@@l.b.9567 stupid comparison bro. Usain bolt participated in an individual sport. Not a TEAM SPORT where performance is dependent on other players as well..
@soeradjnarain341
@soeradjnarain341 Жыл бұрын
@@monkey39128 so did Maradonna..😁
@sobbyhasselhoff
@sobbyhasselhoff Жыл бұрын
I'm sure cundy was flat out watching Serie A in the 80s.
@rogermilla2358
@rogermilla2358 Жыл бұрын
Messi has more goals against the top 4-5 PL teams just by playing them in Champions League than Ronaldo did from all his seasons in England...
@Mrtarazn
@Mrtarazn Жыл бұрын
Okay and ?? Ronaldo has more goals than messi in all categories in the champions league lol keep barking
@akshatbhandari827
@akshatbhandari827 Жыл бұрын
And yet Ronaldo has scored the most goals in UCL finals, has won more UCLs, and has more UCL goals. You absolute🤡
@Ysecon1d
@Ysecon1d Жыл бұрын
and messi has like 5 penalties in this world cup so far
@akshatbhandari827
@akshatbhandari827 Жыл бұрын
Funny how Pessi fans used to call Ronaldo 'Penaldo' for scoring penalties. Almost every goal Messi has scored in Qatar has been from the pen spot🤡🤡
@yogi2983
@yogi2983 Жыл бұрын
@@akshatbhandari827 you haven't seen the assists?
@NC-ck5oj
@NC-ck5oj Жыл бұрын
Maradona was my absolute hero as a kid but I have to admit that Messi has now surpassed him. the reason being the sheer amount of goals hes scored. he is the perfect footballer. If Messi lifts the trophy on Sunday it will be the greatest moment in the history of football
@NC-ck5oj
@NC-ck5oj Жыл бұрын
And it was!!
@Stan-um3iv
@Stan-um3iv Жыл бұрын
Maradona is the best player in the world, even though he only had one world cup. Did you guys know what Diego did in Italy with Naples. The world chose Pele above Diego, not because he could play better than Maradona, but Because Pele is a nice guy. Messi is not close to Diego the Gold baby.
@marleybanda7859
@marleybanda7859 Жыл бұрын
Maradona was at the top for only 2 years messi was for 15 years
@Stan-um3iv
@Stan-um3iv Жыл бұрын
@@marleybanda7859 Really, I am sorry you don't get it. Diego Armando Maradona el pibe de oro (The Gold Baby) and Pele are in a level that only them reached. You can compare Messi with any other soccer/football player, but not with Diego, not with Pele. In football Diego Armando Maradona is a god and Pele is king. Get it? When Diego was playing most of the time, the stadium was full before the game started, just to see Diego warm up and doing magic with the ball. Diego was a god in the football world, people worshipped him and ready to even die for him.
@marleybanda7859
@marleybanda7859 Жыл бұрын
@@Stan-um3iv my grandfather watched messi Ronaldo Maradona pele he watched them all live and he says messi is the greatest Ronaldo 2nd and Maradona 3rd
@moneyman...13
@moneyman...13 Жыл бұрын
first time talk sport talk something positive 💯🔥
@flamboyentpromotions3471
@flamboyentpromotions3471 Жыл бұрын
messi has lasted at the top level way longer than Maradona. By 1990 Maradona was a pale shadow of the player from years earlier
@draoicht22
@draoicht22 Жыл бұрын
Messi is next level after Maradona. Maradona 2.0 That will all be put to be bed on Sunday God Willing ;)
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 Жыл бұрын
The longevity of Messi and Ronaldo has been baffling although it looks like Ronny might finally be reaching the end. Nice to see Messi put on a show in this WC. Genuinely wasn't expecting it, especially after the Saudi Arabia game!
@stephenmason9527
@stephenmason9527 Жыл бұрын
Pele did more, he did it younger, and he did it 60 years prior. 🤯
@blueSkies777
@blueSkies777 Жыл бұрын
"what do we need?....ooohh" lmao, probs a miracle
@JuanJacinto
@JuanJacinto Жыл бұрын
You could argue so many things about Messi (or about anything really) ..but just look at the man. Look at how he moves his body, the things he does. Why people like to talk about him, why not just watch?
@garri5108
@garri5108 Жыл бұрын
Even without winning all of those titles I knew by his play that he is tge best in footbal history, I don't even need world cup title to believe in it, it's obvious for me, I played footbal many years, and I don't understand how someone who has knowledge about football even doubt it
@MarkWalmsley
@MarkWalmsley Жыл бұрын
This is what bugs me! Anyone who understands football and what they are watching knows messi is the best ever. Listening to peirs Morgan tell us why messi isn't the best is madness when I get he was playing cricket as a kid and certainly wasn't any good at football even if he did play. Such people don't understand the nuances of messis game, they instead get excited about power and pace because it's what they wish they could do.
@EireTV
@EireTV Жыл бұрын
because they are older than you and seen others play. simple.
@doriandougan3023
@doriandougan3023 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you first caller💯👊
@priddypridax3980
@priddypridax3980 Жыл бұрын
Maradona is a god,pure art,great skills n speed
@maxmaxie1328
@maxmaxie1328 Жыл бұрын
now what?
@AzAkh60
@AzAkh60 Жыл бұрын
There is only one God.
@mauricekennedy6786
@mauricekennedy6786 Жыл бұрын
Maradona is the best Argentina footballer ever Messi couldn't lase his boots
@hafizur91
@hafizur91 Жыл бұрын
Off course he was bettter then maradona. How many position can maradona play? And how many can messi play.
@erickarias3309
@erickarias3309 Жыл бұрын
Maradona was far better, he was more talented, that's why he is worshipped in Argentina.
@jimsim8736
@jimsim8736 Жыл бұрын
@@erickarias3309 If he was far better why has he scored less than half the goals? Why does he have 1/4 the assists? Why is his highlight reel so short that it’s the equivalent of 1 or 2 Messi highlights? Why is his individual awards so much lower? Why did he only play 10 years at the top? Where’s his European cup or Copa? Messi is so far ahead of Maradona but hey Ronaldo fans are clinging onto anything they can nowadays...
@erickarias3309
@erickarias3309 Жыл бұрын
@@jimsim8736 You are a Messi Fanboy, Messi only had good results with Barcelona , he was always a ghost with Argentina until now, that's why people criticized him in his country, Maradona was a leader and he carried a team to win the world cup, he was more talented than Messi is , he played for Napoli and won the scudetto twice when Serie A es the best, he didn't need a Xavi like Messi because he was the engine of his teams, that's why he is worshipped in Argentina, messy fanboys do no understand this, Maradona is worshipped in Argentina,Messi never reached that level, 1986 world cup witnessed the best individual performance in the history of world cups and it was Maradona the responsible. You Messi fanboys make me laugh.
@farooqyousaf9516
@farooqyousaf9516 Жыл бұрын
'Any player from any era for a final', it's an easy R9 or Zidane. As much as I love Messi and Ronaldo more than any footballer, I'd take peak R9 or Zidane as I've seen both destroy teams single handedly in major finals.
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 Жыл бұрын
Zidane was kind of a mix of both from what I remember. He had Messi esque skills with Ronaldo athleticism. Sadly I only saw him right at the end of his career but his performance for France in 2006 was immense.
@yohommie6187
@yohommie6187 Жыл бұрын
The fact messi does what he does normal and not under cocaine makes he better.
@ErikTheRed99
@ErikTheRed99 Жыл бұрын
And he's not a human trafficker and a p-do
@check2000
@check2000 Жыл бұрын
corny
@jamiegormer1010
@jamiegormer1010 Жыл бұрын
If you think Messi or Ronaldo ain't tried a sniff ,They must be the most boring people to go out with ,because they don't drink alcohol ,don't smoke ,don't eat everyday foods ,
@yogi2983
@yogi2983 Жыл бұрын
that's not a good argument because cocaine actually hampers performance. Maradona was magic too. I don't see the point of such comparisons. They can never be compared because they're playing in different eras with unique advantages and disadvantages.
@dg1786
@dg1786 Жыл бұрын
When people use the argument cr7 he played in many leagues and won. He’s been to the teams that where already winning before he went. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@dg1786
@dg1786 Жыл бұрын
@@Bricktop2023 he had prime Rooney Modric Alonso Ozil Scholes Di Maria Kaka. Benzima Bale Kroos He had enough great players around him. Lame excuses 👍🏽
@abrahamjames7004
@abrahamjames7004 Жыл бұрын
Lmao... "Most naturally gifted player"... As a Messi Stan myself, let's not act like Ronaldinho didn't make an entire generation of fans to become football lovers... Dinho the most naturally gifted player ever and it's not even close!!!
@christopherachoy5395
@christopherachoy5395 Жыл бұрын
Thats true but have u ever seen young messi play? When i say young i mean barely tall enough to kick a ball?
@rohanshah8808
@rohanshah8808 Жыл бұрын
Naturally gifted... Doesn't mean tricks or step overs (tricks used by previous players) Messi doesn't need tricks... Plays the purest form of football....and still you can't stop him
@cavanriley7373
@cavanriley7373 Жыл бұрын
Skilling and natural ability are two separate conversations.
@virtuallimit3619
@virtuallimit3619 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldinho was inconsistent and was only on top for like 3 good yrs.
@draoicht22
@draoicht22 Жыл бұрын
Remember that it was Ronaldinho who introduced Messi to Kobe Bryant "A long time ago, Barcelona came to Los Angeles," Bryant said. "Ronaldinho, who was a good friend, I was talking with him and he told me: 'Kobe, look I'm going to introduce you to the guy who is going to be the greatest player of all time."
@jessewilliamsmr.9518
@jessewilliamsmr.9518 Жыл бұрын
People forget Messi won world titles in all his junior teams with Argentina including the Olympic games. He's made every team he's played in better. He's won everything now. . . Everything not just the world Cup
@tikkunolam112
@tikkunolam112 Жыл бұрын
Peter Beardsley is the Greatest of All Time...
@chrisburton4128
@chrisburton4128 Жыл бұрын
Messi is Beardsley's lovechild
@poodlechews
@poodlechews Жыл бұрын
David Platt > Beardsley
@DNikos7
@DNikos7 Жыл бұрын
I remember football since Euro 84. Seen most of the greats: Maradona, Platini,Van Basten, Baggio, Romario, Ronaldo,Zidane,Ronaldinho,CR,Messi. Leo Messi is the best I've ever seen.
@rickzane6433
@rickzane6433 Жыл бұрын
He also scored Alvarez' 2 goals, obtained the penalty and delivered 2 babies at half time. A true legend surrounded by 10 dudes in shorts.
@richarddordoye7300
@richarddordoye7300 Жыл бұрын
Surrounded by 10 worriors willing to go the extra mile for him. Absolute legends
@naminabantu
@naminabantu Жыл бұрын
NOW, there's no doubt. Messi is undeniably the greatest player of all time.
@CJVP99
@CJVP99 Жыл бұрын
Fate if the universe for one game any era I’m taking prime R9 over Messi easily
@CJVP99
@CJVP99 Жыл бұрын
@Matt Gee prime for prime no he’s not R9 was above all but career yes Messi is better
@oceanoflaughandjoy4440
@oceanoflaughandjoy4440 Жыл бұрын
mentioning ronaldo on the same sentence with MESSI feels weird its like calling FOOTBALL, SOCCER!
@xavieraltimiras2918
@xavieraltimiras2918 Жыл бұрын
And now Maradona and not Ronaldo??? Hah ha ha ha ha. Now????????????Now you figured it out bunch of Ronaldo fan boys? Here in barcelona we have seen messi since he was 13 years old and it made me sick this to hear this main british media comparing messi with who? With Ronaldo...OMG what a joke... I have ( must ) to respect you because you invented this sport we all love so we will always owe you but it's so sad it took you 15 years to realize that messi cannot be compared to anybody especially to a killer, a finisher. Why don't you just compare it to George Best???? I mean come on. can't believe some of these guys played world class football.
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 Жыл бұрын
Well they've both scored an insane amount of goals, that's why the comparison exists.
@sebastianalegria3401
@sebastianalegria3401 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that Messi is better than Maradona, but if he wants us to compare with Diego, he has to win the world cup final. Moreover, I'm a huge fan of CR7, but I supported Argentina more than ever in order to defeat Croatia in semi-finals. Messi has done a great campaign with his Argentina national football team winning tough teams, so that's why his team deserves to get to the final with France, which is the current champion of the world.
@TyroneMooselips187
@TyroneMooselips187 Жыл бұрын
Can he do Hand of God?
@Rodney231
@Rodney231 Жыл бұрын
Lol he actually did that as well 😂😂
@ashkara8652
@ashkara8652 Жыл бұрын
not with today's VAR tech. he'd get a red card
@chromeheart6597
@chromeheart6597 Жыл бұрын
Messi carried Barca for years ,you people haven’t been paying attention as the English PL snobs rarely look outside their precious league .Messi outshined CR in la liga every season he was there ,CR left Man U because he was booed in every ground in UK and he left Madrid cos the fans were ungrateful for what he did ,he didn’t leave when he was happy .Why doesn’t anyone use the same standards with Giggs never leaving Man U when talking about players supposed greatness?
@sagarranjan4585
@sagarranjan4585 Жыл бұрын
Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Messi, Zidane , R9, Henry, Laudrup - these guys are absolute artists. They are what kids today call 'ballers'. Ronaldo, van Nistelrooy, van Basten, Lewandowski are goal machines but inferior understanding of the rest of the game than the first group.
@harrischaudhry3698
@harrischaudhry3698 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@YeTism
@YeTism Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo in his early years was a baller. It’s only since 2013 that he’s just become a pure goal machine
@yogi2983
@yogi2983 Жыл бұрын
Cristiano is right up there. Messi fans tend to underrate him but he's every bit as good as all the names you mentioned up there. I really don't understand why people have to choose one. Both these guys are monsters and deserve every respect.
@harrischaudhry3698
@harrischaudhry3698 Жыл бұрын
@@yogi2983 no body is saying cristiano is not one of the greatest ever. We are just saying that between the top names and bottom names there is a major difference. The names on the top those player have a natural feel and a very high football iq what I mean by this is that they have an understanding of how to control an entire game by themselves. For example if you look at Cristiano and Messi we can easily see that Messi has a natural ability that is just a level above. He can create chances run a games by himself that’s the reason he has an insane number of assists and chances created per game. On the other hand Cristiano doesn’t do that he’s a pure goal scorer don’t get me wrong he is great at assists as well it’s just that he can’t control the game the way Messi can.
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