Javier Bardem & Chloë Sevigny REACT to Erik Menendez’s ‘Monsters’ Criticism (Exclusive)

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@actuallymichael03
@actuallymichael03 Ай бұрын
Whether people think the show was like the real story or not, you gotta give every single actor credit for their brilliant performances. They all did so amazing.
@michaelswinford4674
@michaelswinford4674 Ай бұрын
Absolutely agree.
@nikkoramirez2695
@nikkoramirez2695 Ай бұрын
Hated the show but if you look at the performances by each actor weather badly depicted by Ryan Murphy they all did great with the what was on the script. Javier made me believe he was Jose as well as Cooper playing Erik
@paulvoorhies8821
@paulvoorhies8821 Ай бұрын
@@nikkoramirez2695 Cooper was outstanding.
@2Bad4YOUuu
@2Bad4YOUuu Ай бұрын
100% agree. The acting was so incredible particularly the main characters. As dark and disturbing as the material was and believe me I had to take breaks from the episodes-- I still had to see it through because it was so magnetizing.
@shawnaraska-pm6qd
@shawnaraska-pm6qd Ай бұрын
It was very well done love the Milli Vanilli soundtrack😂.
@Glimax
@Glimax Ай бұрын
Javier deserves an award for that role, he was scary and so powerful, really amazing performance.
@jfdluxczerooo
@jfdluxczerooo Ай бұрын
True
@bkboy2384
@bkboy2384 Ай бұрын
Bardem as usual when he's on screen absolutely dominates....the guy is an incredible actor
@susangriffin4
@susangriffin4 Ай бұрын
Love him❤ great actor
@WinfreyWright
@WinfreyWright Ай бұрын
The things I have done (in my dreams) with Bardem ... might curl your hair.
@renakmans3521
@renakmans3521 Ай бұрын
Unbelievable and award worthy acting!!! ❤
@closki226
@closki226 Ай бұрын
That moment she fell on the kitchen floor… only to pull herself back up for the wine bottle…. Amazing!
@kallivino8346
@kallivino8346 Ай бұрын
Javier carried the whole series. What an actor, kudos.
@SupriyaAN
@SupriyaAN Ай бұрын
The guy who played Erik did.
@DawnGreen-wn4hr
@DawnGreen-wn4hr Ай бұрын
@@SupriyaANNikolas Chavez wasn’t bad either! All good!
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd Ай бұрын
Totally agree. I think people are misinterpreting it. It’s not a documentary. The films did not present much of the story as absolute truth. It's presenting what people think about it. That's the hallmark of the case; hystetical public opinion whipped up by media and most of it the product of wild imagination. We're left none the wiser at the end of it, and that's how it should be. Only the people who were there know what did and didn't happen.
@meleh_m
@meleh_m Ай бұрын
That’s what confuses me the most to what people are mad about, like Ryan Murphy didn’t create the different views and theories that people had at the time he just collected them for his show to show how we will never know the truth, and it’s okay to think what you want with the situation.
@ingridlima2006
@ingridlima2006 28 күн бұрын
@@meleh_m because ryan have been nothing but disrescpectful to the victimis (lyle and erik) since the release and he did said he studied the case for three years to make the show, so what exactly did he want to portray?
@cali-sun7727
@cali-sun7727 Ай бұрын
The acting all the way around was phenomenal🎉
@carmenventuro5087
@carmenventuro5087 Ай бұрын
why did'nt the writiers talk with Lyle and Erik?
@graveburgers
@graveburgers Ай бұрын
Because they don’t care about the truth.
@Amira_em
@Amira_em Ай бұрын
they don’t care about them all they want is fame n money
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d Ай бұрын
They were presenting different viewpoints that existed when this case occurred. This is what people do not understand.
@MrZavalon74
@MrZavalon74 Ай бұрын
@@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d That is why they had to talk to the brothers in first place.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d Ай бұрын
@@MrZavalon74 Not necessarily. I think Ryan was trying to portray the views of how the public saw this case not how the brothers saw the case.
@kbrightheart
@kbrightheart Ай бұрын
Chloe Sevigny is an amazing actress!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ekagelashvily5192
@ekagelashvily5192 Ай бұрын
Chloe deserves an Oscar, such a talented actress
@simongander3089
@simongander3089 Ай бұрын
To me the series was pretty clearly stating that we will never know the entire truth and that all events were interpretations of each persons point of view. It's clearly fiction with sprinkles of truth.
@karenganzkow118
@karenganzkow118 Ай бұрын
Finally someone with sense! There are so many women on IG and TT that actually believe the actors are the real brothers or that each scenario was real and have already inundated the state. Mental illness is rampant. They forget they were 18 and 21 and could have walked away...not premeditated a dozen shots and gone on a spending spree. Some of us saw this in real time and watched the trial. No remorse. But in this world now...pretty is never guilty now. 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@piapadmore430
@piapadmore430 Ай бұрын
They were amazing✨👌🏻
@dynamicvoltage9765
@dynamicvoltage9765 Ай бұрын
Wasn't really a fan of the show, but Javier Bardem was amazing in it. He's creepy, evil, nice, and hilarious all at once. Just continues to prove how good of a character actor he is.
@the_thinker69
@the_thinker69 Ай бұрын
he should win an award for his performance
@adsads994
@adsads994 Ай бұрын
great acting!
@Mandi357
@Mandi357 Ай бұрын
Very good performances
@m.b1865
@m.b1865 Ай бұрын
Monsters The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story Is So Very Incredible !
@daphneymarc9420
@daphneymarc9420 Ай бұрын
Is it just me, or do they look like they could be siblings?
@SupriyaAN
@SupriyaAN Ай бұрын
Me too… they look so similar. They didn’t look like a married couple onscreen.. they looked more like siblings..
@mimupipu5200
@mimupipu5200 17 күн бұрын
Thought the same thing
@AA-qb7ni
@AA-qb7ni Ай бұрын
They need to win Emmys cos they were TERRIFYING to watch.
@cierrascales6770
@cierrascales6770 Ай бұрын
They look great and the acting was top notch
@graveburgers
@graveburgers Ай бұрын
1:50 “allegedly”, ridiculous, it DID HAPPEN. Why are these people so reluctant to say the abuse DID happen?
@GerlardTheSeaLion
@GerlardTheSeaLion Ай бұрын
I hate to be that person, because i belive the brothers as well, but in all reality.. «allegedly» is the right phrase, as we’ll never know for sure.
@MidnightRain111
@MidnightRain111 Ай бұрын
There were kid corn photos of the brothers taken and kept by both parents. These were presented at the trial. These actors should be ashamed of themselves for defending child rapists
@MidnightRain111
@MidnightRain111 Ай бұрын
​@@GerlardTheSeaLionwe do know for sure because there was evidence presented at the trial
@paulvoorhies8821
@paulvoorhies8821 Ай бұрын
@@MidnightRain111. Oh, I hate child corn. Chinese food.
@constanzasaucedo7045
@constanzasaucedo7045 Ай бұрын
​@@GerlardTheSeaLion there's plenty evidence tho, the way ppl are so reluctant to call it what it is (r4pe, child abuse) make it seem like u just gotta take their word for it when in reality it's basically proven that they were abused
@sarasmith1255
@sarasmith1255 Ай бұрын
Love both of these people fire
@alisabarrett5653
@alisabarrett5653 Ай бұрын
The parents were the monsters. This case happened in the 90s. Boomers were "raising" their children and adults were agast that kids would hurt let alone kill the parents. Reasonably so. At the time, you were not supposed to question your parents. Most parents still thought they were like God, everything they did was correct and if their child questioned them or asked for accountability for their bad behavior, they were out of line. My 15 year old brother got kicked out of our house for not "respecting" my mom and step dad. No adults questioned my mom's decision. No one questioned how the Menedez brothers were treated. It was never brought up in conversations about them. They were immediately guilty for disrespecting, hurting their parents, and killing them. What we now understand is, they were badly abused. In an abusive home you aren't taught ways to cope with the stress of abuse. Abusers want you stressed out. You aren't taught ways to get out, you aren't encouraged to talk to a therapist. There's no healthy conflict resolution. One person was God and they were to do what he said. What Lyle and Erik did was wrong and they should've went to prison. I don't feel enough weight was given to what they went through and that while they were old enough to know right from wrong, they weren't taught right from wrong in that home. They were raised by someone who refused to deal with their own trauma, who was emotionally immature, and probably had a personality disorder. That person was enabled and emboldened by their mother. They underwent horrific abuse and saw no way out. It's time to let the Menendez bothers out. I hope this docuseries draws attention to the case and people learn what really happened and rise up for these boys who went, almost seamlessly, from one prison to another.
@angeliaxx
@angeliaxx Ай бұрын
Chloe is Amazing. I loved her in AHC. Javier, again, killed it!!
@awdree__
@awdree__ Ай бұрын
i just think chloë is really pretty
@annrodriguez2891
@annrodriguez2891 Ай бұрын
Love her in everything...❤
@davidlawton7845
@davidlawton7845 Ай бұрын
These two were outstanding in these roles…great effort.
@applebomb4091
@applebomb4091 Ай бұрын
perfect casting!!
@WynnWynn-gl3fk
@WynnWynn-gl3fk Ай бұрын
I was a small child and I was invested in the case.
@Irishgirl7
@Irishgirl7 Ай бұрын
The two of them did a fantastic job! Loved the series & the way Ryan Murphy shows it from different viewpoints. It was spot on reconstruction.
@UniversoulLady
@UniversoulLady Ай бұрын
Javier and Chloë did a fantastic job portraying these characters, especially not being that familiar. They were exactly how I imagined Jose and Kitty to be in real life. All 4 of the actors were phenomenal honestly.
@shawnaraska-pm6qd
@shawnaraska-pm6qd Ай бұрын
I was very impressed with how well this was done and blown away by the Milli Vanilli soundtrack thought that was an awesome touch
@marirothbauer5407
@marirothbauer5407 Ай бұрын
I read two days ago that their Aunt said the parents were extremely cruel. I believe her frim what I read torturing your children is a crime. They did endure an horrific life for sure.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d Ай бұрын
Tammi was in her forties and Erik was in his 20’s when she targeted him. There is a huge age gap. I think Erik married his mother because Tammi looks like Kitty and Tammi was married to a pedophiler named Chuck Saccoman who was sleeping with Tammi’s older daughter and she said she suspected it but did not say anything just like Kitty who was married to a pedo named Jose and she knew Jose was sleeping with their older son. See the similarities
@victoriamarie35
@victoriamarie35 Ай бұрын
Where did you get that info? I read she is 8 years older than Erik.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d Ай бұрын
@@victoriamarie35 No it was in an in an interview. She is 63 going on 64. Look it up in public records
@sharonsekhon9475
@sharonsekhon9475 Ай бұрын
@@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d no. It's a ten year gap.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d Ай бұрын
@@sharonsekhon9475 yes that is a huge gap.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d Ай бұрын
@@sharonsekhon9475 wow you really care about this. Tammi was 40 and Erik was 29 going on 30. I know one of prison guards at Folsom names Janice who is 6’1 and she spoke with Erik all the time so I’m pretty sure I have the data accurate
@chispuda
@chispuda Ай бұрын
They both did amazing!
@simonealmeida7854
@simonealmeida7854 Ай бұрын
Woww....Two amazing actors. What a incredible actions of you both Congratulations.
@shanexxb
@shanexxb Ай бұрын
crazy still saying “alleged” about something you can clearly look into and see other professionals opinions on what happened… disappointing they didn’t do any research before taking these roles
@ellestegs
@ellestegs Ай бұрын
They have to if they don't want to get sued. Very common.
@HfAX-ir1ip
@HfAX-ir1ip Ай бұрын
“other professionals opinions” ….. key word “opinions”! Stop being over-emotional and face the fact that we’ll probably never know the real truth - whether or not you believe them.
@ChrisMcCrowe
@ChrisMcCrowe Ай бұрын
Amazing performance!!!
@afrohitana
@afrohitana Ай бұрын
He is my SPANISH pride for sure! The skills are unbearable and undeniable... our best actor I'm so happy for him❤❤❤
@thatmetalchiick
@thatmetalchiick Ай бұрын
I think Ryan Murphy did amazing as he does with every project. I was affected by it.
@dthomasrankin
@dthomasrankin Ай бұрын
This was a great movie. Amazing acting, script and direction. Kudos.
@MamboKing215
@MamboKing215 Ай бұрын
Crazy to think Bardem is evenly aged between the brothers.
@lilyrose041
@lilyrose041 Ай бұрын
My beloved Javier Bardem, you are a professional but i humbly urge you with all respect of your work do not fend Ryan Murphy. Ryan Murphy disrespected the brothers completely. Ryan only focused to fufill his own perception and fantasy of just one person and that is Erik. So my utmost respectful actor Javier Bardem, let this be The last film you ever did with Ryan Murphy. Ever!!!! I love you wholeheartedly and with 100% respect don't take another role of Ryan Murphy. Just don't!
@MaverickSteffen
@MaverickSteffen Ай бұрын
Javier made the father really lovable. Even the mental “abuse” scenes seemed to come from a place of love. I grew up in a deeply abusive home. Real abuse (in my opinion) comes from a deep hate of the child.
@kallivino8346
@kallivino8346 Ай бұрын
@@MaverickSteffen Javier has worked on many films with the greatest Director of all time Almodovar whose themes are very similar to this. Nothing is black and white. I urde you to watch " Talk to her " a masterpiece. It turned my view of things upside down.
@angeliaxx
@angeliaxx Ай бұрын
I enjoyed his loveable personality as an abusive father- its scary. my mother was a nice woman to the outside world but mentally/emotionally abuse to use children. I always wanted to tell them... "she is not like this behind closed doors."
@MaverickSteffen
@MaverickSteffen Ай бұрын
@@angeliaxx lol, ditto. My foster mom sang at church every Sunday, then we come home and reminded me how ugly and stupid I was and how if I ever got married, the woman was only using me for money or something else. Such lovely things to say to a 10-year-old.
@angeliaxx
@angeliaxx Ай бұрын
@@MaverickSteffen its a heartbreaking experience. in the series, where Eric says when the person you love does things to you, you are not real. thats what trauma and cptsd feels like, you dont even feel real or human anymore but a branch tumbling in the wind. until you realize you are real and have to heal.
@juguetedeldestino
@juguetedeldestino Ай бұрын
THE 4 OF THEM. GREAT CASTING!!! AMAZING. THE BOYS WERE GREAT!!!
@lindawoodruff2772
@lindawoodruff2772 Ай бұрын
Excellent acting.
@jennah5390
@jennah5390 Ай бұрын
The fact that I hate these people confirms what a brilliant job they did. Outstanding!!! My God. What a cast.
@carlosocanamartinez1927
@carlosocanamartinez1927 3 күн бұрын
Clhoe es una actriz que ha sido poco valorada, es fantástica es todas sus actuaciones ojalá le dieran el reconocimiento que se merece.
@NiNa-nn3bm
@NiNa-nn3bm Ай бұрын
Javier served in Monsters
@mikaelemafi4618
@mikaelemafi4618 Ай бұрын
Why I honestly did not recognize him. He looks so different for the role.
@MISSRUE32MCGEE
@MISSRUE32MCGEE Ай бұрын
Javier Bardem 😍
@rafi.and.yehuda
@rafi.and.yehuda Ай бұрын
The more I hear about these boys in the movie and out of the movie they deserve to be free.If OJ got off so can these guys.
@moniii444
@moniii444 Ай бұрын
They were great in the acting
@VeggiesWithAttitude
@VeggiesWithAttitude Ай бұрын
Eric and Lyle commenting from prison: “every like this gets I’ll do one pushup”
@lolah3838
@lolah3838 Ай бұрын
The exploitive nature of this and other Ryan Murphy projects that I've watched makes me feel dirty for having done so. I could only get through 1 + 1/2 episodes of this one. As usual, the performances are good but how anyone has the gall to defend this type of project against words of the actual victims who know the actual truth, is beyond me.
@UniversoulLady
@UniversoulLady Ай бұрын
I totally agree. Ryan Murphy is questionable… having said that, these actors did amazing.
@deborahdipaulo4636
@deborahdipaulo4636 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@yowvapaherda9187
@yowvapaherda9187 Ай бұрын
Great performance from all.
@TotoToto-qp2tt
@TotoToto-qp2tt Ай бұрын
Ryan Murphy should be jailed for turning their tragic story into one of his sick gay fantasies
@helenfong3339
@helenfong3339 Ай бұрын
Yep, we all know who imagined the shower scene!
@planet-tyler666
@planet-tyler666 Ай бұрын
O calm down FFS
@Salee-ze7qt
@Salee-ze7qt 27 күн бұрын
I found those parts so exploitive and disturbing and literally irresponsible in a case of sexual abuse and zero reasoning to add homosexual fiction into it.
@planet-tyler666
@planet-tyler666 27 күн бұрын
@@Salee-ze7qt The whole show was about showing all the theories and rumors of the time. Don't want them in the shower together then go back to the 1980s in a time machine and erase the speculation
@patbrown2699
@patbrown2699 Ай бұрын
Jose did not have an accent, he came and to the US very young there is video of him talking, no accent
@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 Ай бұрын
Relax
@connorq8497
@connorq8497 Ай бұрын
This quite literally doesn’t matter at all
@mamapsims
@mamapsims Ай бұрын
Many people intentionally hide their accents. Maybe he's older and more secure in himself and his career and no longer wants to hide it.
@hollyjoc97
@hollyjoc97 Ай бұрын
He absolutely did have an accent! There’s an old clip of him being interviewed on KZbin
@AHORAN02
@AHORAN02 Ай бұрын
In the video of him talking there’s a clear accent
@norijean3279
@norijean3279 Ай бұрын
Kitty 💖💕💕💕
@schingh1973
@schingh1973 Ай бұрын
It’s a part of American history. Therefore, it’s open for discussion. I can appreciate Erik and Lyle wishing to be spoken to but, there’s no law saying that has to be done. I do believe they have paid their dues & I do think they were molested but, when you go to jail you have to expect that you’re not going to be consulted. It’s Hollywood. In the end, I hope the series helps them with their release.
@mondm4302
@mondm4302 Ай бұрын
Javier bardem se llevó esa serie
@BirdBaker-c7r
@BirdBaker-c7r Ай бұрын
Shaun Plaza
@smwforyoutube9213
@smwforyoutube9213 Ай бұрын
looks like Al Pacino !!
@anakindonissa
@anakindonissa Ай бұрын
0:15 the world had obsessed with ? 😂 which world ?
@luzmarinavivanco4800
@luzmarinavivanco4800 Ай бұрын
Yo conozco Padres que estan criando Desde muy pequenos Monstruos futuros a la Sociedad no le Importa que Pena!!@@
@carmenpalenske6685
@carmenpalenske6685 Ай бұрын
They were not “boys”. That was a term their attorney used to elicit sympathy. They were over 18 and were young men who put time and effort in the murders of their parents.
@Blue-dc3rh
@Blue-dc3rh Ай бұрын
The psychiatrist who examined them said they had been so mentally stunted by the brutal abuse that they had the maturity of a 10-year-old. PLEASE do your research and you'll see that these brothers are victims who have served more than enough time. They were terrorized by their parents, their father was a powerful Hollywood executive
@adjiemontage9824
@adjiemontage9824 27 күн бұрын
Chloe acting tho
@firenze5555
@firenze5555 Ай бұрын
Awful crime case; very scary sociopathic young men.
@nancyjean2700
@nancyjean2700 Ай бұрын
I like the doctor, he act funny
@maggiehendon9946
@maggiehendon9946 Ай бұрын
Jesus Christ died for our sins was buried and rose again the third day. I hope all who reads this will realize your a sinner (we all are) and turn to Jesus and trust and believe that He died for your sins was buried and rose again the third day but trust in Him alone to save you from your sins and hell.
@tjlpartners8263
@tjlpartners8263 Ай бұрын
These questions are so bad. Who writes these questions?
@jpallende22
@jpallende22 Ай бұрын
Bardem is so hot !! 😊
@fefejones81
@fefejones81 Ай бұрын
Ryan Murphy should do JonBenét Ramsey. But, her father and brother are sue happy so it might not work 🤔
@tinnnn1
@tinnnn1 Ай бұрын
Wish Javier hadn't dyed his hair ... be grey and be beautiful
@SM-jk4fq
@SM-jk4fq Ай бұрын
Extremely disappointing that two acclaimed actors would take part in explicit defamation and slander of two boys who were victims of parental abuse and rape from a young age. This is a non-fictional story which the boys further victimised within society and such a broken justice system by getting life without parole following their honest accounts from so much childhood trauma. The accounts of exploitation are unimaginably painful, only to then have these two wealthy actors putting out a distorted misrepresented account simply for profit. Shame on them for their lack of humanity
@pwallace5359
@pwallace5359 Ай бұрын
It wasn’t a documentary. It’s all about entertainment. These actors only care about getting paid. I’d have more respect for them if they would just come right out and say that. Heck even documentaries are half fake.
@Literaduranet
@Literaduranet Ай бұрын
usually actors care about being paid because they´re workers.
@helenfong3339
@helenfong3339 Ай бұрын
It is their job. If they spoke what was really on their mind, their career would be over.
@ThomasAlanRugg
@ThomasAlanRugg Ай бұрын
Buy a real mic lol😅
@1stunna91
@1stunna91 Ай бұрын
If only the parents survived and were able to give this interview too. Those brothers lied. Norma Novelli busted them out that part wasn’t just added in the series for “show” it really happened. She recorded him admitting to fake crying on the stand and everything else. “The Abuse Excuse” all of you defending them should be ashamed. You guys will believe anyone who sheds tears “🥺”. They woulda been crying laughing “🤣” rich 💰 had Norma Novelli not busted them out to the public and they got away it.
@Blue-dc3rh
@Blue-dc3rh Ай бұрын
I've listened to the actual Norma Novelli tapes and that is absolutely FALSE. What Lyle said to Norma is "I'm a product of what happened to me, I get emotional and I will be myself on the stand". You can search the tapes on youtube and hear it yourself. PLEASE stop lying and stop defending this Netflix show that was made to slander the brothers. The brothers have NEVER been caught saying that they lied about the abuse.
@1stunna91
@1stunna91 Ай бұрын
@@Blue-dc3rh you listened to that one little 7 min clip that’s floating around on youtube LOL.. there’s HOURS of recordings that we haven’t heard. Keep defending a murderer if you want to.“The Abuse Excuse” that’s all I have to say.
@shawnaraska-pm6qd
@shawnaraska-pm6qd Ай бұрын
We can argue that it was a horrific crime and that these kids were just spoiled brats however there is evidence of abuse not sure the degree of abuse that was never really proven. The argument for me is that they were old enough just to move the fuck out and go on about their lives. They weren’t little kids and they weren’t young teenagers
@Kelly-mi1yz
@Kelly-mi1yz Ай бұрын
He talks for way too long
@SLEVY-ro9sp
@SLEVY-ro9sp Ай бұрын
I did not like these actors, no good. The monsters there were the father & mother of the menendez family. The 2 sons are just victims of terrible abuse, not that murder is justified, but imagine their life! It is so complex, but anyway, these actors, so boring, so meh... I am also a Spanish speaker, & in Almodovar films I used to like Bardem, but now he seems bored, no spark. Her, well, same... That is my own opinion...
@delsmontgomery
@delsmontgomery Ай бұрын
???? what tf are you talking about
@soren7550
@soren7550 Ай бұрын
It's this thing called a double meaning. Lyle and Eric are monsters because they killed their unarmed parents and lied about their deaths. Kitty and Jose are monsters because of the horrid abuse they did to their children (and likely others, if what that one guy from Menudo says is true).
@SLEVY-ro9sp
@SLEVY-ro9sp Ай бұрын
@@soren7550 Yes, sure, I understand. I´m not saying killing is an aswer, but the case of these 2 brothers is incredibly complex y terribly sad, including abuse, rape, hittings, belittling... the list goes on... & that guy from Menudo, whose name is Roy Rosselló, 51, alleges he was drugged and raped as a teen by late Hollywood executive Jose Menendez... In spanish we have a saying, "si el rio suena es porque agua lleva", meaning "if it sounds like it, it must be true"... Again, just my own opinion
@Literaduranet
@Literaduranet Ай бұрын
your own opinion comes from a total lack of knowledge
@mimachan2557
@mimachan2557 Ай бұрын
i swear i remember true story of a sister & brother in one country were in love sexually , when their parents discovered them , their kids killed them , i sooo believe the story in the series , i dont believe the father abused them sexualy
@shawnaraska-pm6qd
@shawnaraska-pm6qd Ай бұрын
We can argue that it was a horrific crime and that these kids were just spoiled brats however there is evidence of abuse not sure the degree of abuse that was never really proven. The argument for me is that they were old enough just to move the fuck out and go on about their lives. They weren’t little kids and they weren’t young teenagers
@firenze5555
@firenze5555 Ай бұрын
Exactly; they were young men, not little boys.
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