This HARDSTUCK Master Says He Is In ELO HELL, So We Made Him PROVE It (In a TOP 500 lobby)

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[@shirugen8884]

Thank you Jay3 for this amazing KZbin Video. Its way more enjoyable on KZbin than on Twitch i gotta say

[@jamesbuttersword2458]

Get this liked XD

[@Psychopath27]

Exactly

[@Judah677]

Fr fr

[@tturskaa]

Fax bro

[@airfawn737]

agreed

[@semosesam]

He showed some T500 level skill, but the difference between Masters and T500 is in large part down to how many mistakes you make... Too many mistakes.

[@notaku8325]

also his attitude... blaming teammates for why ur stuck in an elo is never good

[@kunalgahlawat9899]

agreed

[@FarCraftMania]

@@notaku8325 Yeah I saw a lot of tilt from his gameplay, especially on Hanzo. Was first death a lot just because of very stupid plays (usually going in too early. Looking for a hero play I think). Dude actually shows a lot of promise especially on Echo. Playing a bit more to get a bit more consistent on aim, and focusing on playing your best every game (can't control your team so you shouldn't stress about it) will 100% get him into low/mid GM at the very least. Side Note: He also peaks a lot against mid/long range heroes without gaining anything. Meaning if the opponent is turned on he's just hard feeding.

[@zipy4900]

not really, same amount of mistakes for top 500

[@alxdd9319]

ur gold

[@valentinaquere3294]

He def isn't bad. He could for sure reach top500 in the future. He does some really good plays but he also does some mistakes that cost much more in higher lobbies than in lower lobbies. I feel like he's rushing a bit too much every fight and feels almost lost during pre fights, not getting in positions or talking favorable angles enough. The key to gm is consistensy. You need to be able to change, adapt your gameplay and decision making every single game based on what everyone is playing and how they're playing, what are the threats

[@giantryan660]

Dude might not be top 500, but he def will be in the near future. I feel like he started strong, but the pressure got to him toward the end. He'll get better control of that as he gets older for sure. Great job Madara!

[@HugoPantoja69]

I guess it’s fatigue. The longer you play in one sit, the worst you get

[@ultimateblaze23]

it doesnt work like that, his team mates ill keep him low unless he duos

[@justjay7093]

@@ultimateblaze23hat makes 0 sense lmao you think you can’t make mistakes or there’s not people better than u?

[@DBTHEPLUG]

@@oscar-ff2nn Using a microphone to communicate = im bad and need a carry

[@loki7701]

@@oscar-ff2nn honestly it is the worst way to climb. Duoing lets you joke around with someone consistently and have a jolly good time.

[@Memo-yh4nc]

Something I’m noticing as a fellow Echo Pharah player is that as Echo, he plays with his team a lot. That’s not bad, but Echo is a very good assassin. Especially on Rialto, which is a very good map for her since she can jump over the buildings. So you fly over, land on someone’s head when they don’t expect it, sticky then beam, then just fly away. Her fast mobility also lets her go spawncamp in certain situations and get really fast picks. Even if you don’t do that. Taking an off angle and landing a sticky burst is way easier when you’re on the side and not right next to your tank. Maybe it’s just a difference in play style, but I tend to prefer sneaky/annoying Echo a lot more than just playing with my team.

[@human-ft3wk]

what's ur rank

[@Memo-yh4nc]

@@human-ft3wk Master

[@thomasfairfax4956]

I can't play either lol. Im GM sup. But I thought his pharrah looked bad. Like he didn't know how to stay in the air

[@fluent6865]

you’re right abt the echo play style, echo really isn’t mean to just sit behind the tank spamming shots and stickies , you won’t get any kills that way unless someone pushes you or their supports make a mistake , echo is like an ariel tracer if you ask me , meant to be an assassin and go for quick picks when they don’t expect it and being able to change the flow of the fight with how fast you can kill before their supports can react , i felt like he kinda just sat back w his team farming damage and that’s why they lost , i feel like jay didn’t notice this since he doesn’t play echo

[@ClearKnowingFeelingHearing]

aerial*@@fluent6865

[@Hemzri]

7:45 Love how first he is really mad but instantly goes back to "Also you can now become a youtube member.. 🥺"

[@Khak1]

i think he should stay masters lol but this was probably a good learning experience for him hopefully

[@boiofbois4232]

as a hardstuck diamond scince ow1, i can confirm this guy is the average soloq teammate

[@harrybeast58]

as a formerly hardstuck diamond, now hardstuck high masters, i can confidently say this dude is much better than the average diamond. dude is probably between GM3-GM5

[@thomasfairfax4956]

​@@harrybeast58 I'm GM 3 supp and he would need a lot of lifting. You can't be playing phara on the ground and keep dying to turrets And his general positioning is okay one minute, then he's in the open and dying the next.

[@ianthompson44]

@@harrybeast58 Since you are masters, can I ask you a question about this guy's gameplay? He seems (to me) to have absolutely NO battlefield awareness, he gets tunnel vision on his target and it makes him seem to forget everything going on around him. Most of his deaths are to players he never sees. i.e. he is constantly being flanked. I am imagining things?

[@trash0175]

@@ianthompson44 im only masters on support but yeah his positioning needs some work. His hanzo and pharah positioning is weird. His echo is passive though which is so weird. Why the sudden change of play style

[@thedmdidit9842]

Bro comes across as the type of kid that has a lot of natural talent, hit a wall at g1 and rather than improving his skills he complains that its all because of his team. He could bot T500 if he worked on his skills, but isn't yet.

[@Astr_0]

Tbh anyone can play echo like this, and he changed almost nothing in a lot of fights. He good where he at

[@Atzeluca]

Imma be honest when jay reads or says this is better on twitch than on youtube. Its like a sleeper agent he has to continue the line

[@schrodingersdinger3839]

Wow this video is so succinct and well done. So much better than on twitch thank you Jay3

[@tylersanders2388]

There were a lot of times when he looked lost in such a fast paced lobby. The gap between masters and t500 is actually pretty large

[@ayyjack]

Great video Jay3, I've tried watching the stream a few times but it's way better here.

[@DaveWolffe]

Jay, here's the thing, we need to see another M1 dps (who is happy as M1) with these teams to see if they'd perform just as well. It's not a huge gap. I'm sure most M1 players with 4 T500s could carry their weight

[@TroX30540]

Honeslty it would never be crazy accurate. To do it, you need to have control over everything in the game. If the team do better with another M1, you could not be able to conclude that Madara is the problem. The solution is to use statistics, but it demands a LOT of games !

[@soggylegos8545]

His aim is a compilation of those play of the games that you think is the badass part of the game that you 1v4'd the enemy team but its some random moment with a total of maybe 5 of 30 shots hit but since those 5 shots all hit different people that died to a reaper ult, it counted as elims.

[@F-1uid]

Hey jay just wanted to let you know you can see the scoreboard you just have to click your profile in the menu of the custom match and click spectate blue/orange only then click tab

[@crisp5758]

I have been really enjoying these series and Jay always mentions that he cannot see the scoreboard, but I thought maybe he could ask one of the players to take a screenshot at the end of the first round or at the end of the game, so that we all can see. But keep up these videos they are really entertaining!

[@PurpleMoon799]

i thimk he does do that sometimes espacially if the person does really bad lolll

[@Jellyfishxox]

I had this guy avoided for the longest time, everytime he was on my team he literally threw hard and didn't switch, when he was on enemy team he got rolled easily. So funny to see him on a video like this lmao

[@jirou6228]

Are you sure that the same person ? Madara seem to be a famous name

[@cmonnow]

Jay's face at 19:29 when he copied the Sym had me dying

[@ClearKnowingFeelingHearing]

LOL

[@jpfika]

His ego is crazy

[@thkthk12]

Would love to see a series where GM ranked #1 posted where he's in elo hell and that they need to make a new rank for himself because everyone his trash lol.

[@Judah677]

Here come the reserved uploads while jay£ goes Iceland

[@giantryan660]

Even though these are way more fun live, the YT videos are great!

[@taconachoz3753]

Seeing that this is hm makes me feel more confident. I don’t play much comp anymore because I don’t always have friends to play with and solo que low ranks is just losing sr.

[@MysikiTV]

This KZbin is far better than Twitch--thanks for the video! So happy there was no consistent moving chat on the side.

[@lpan-xy4pt]

that sym one trick is crazy

[@ToyotahTrueno]

😳😳

[@Lp0tr33]

That is a great idea to surround Mei with sym turrets while she is frozen. LOL

[@Goku-ib2mr]

I love how this guy was ripping on his supports when he is gold in support 😂

[@B_bang22]

Lonzo ball is a NBA point guard/SG but couldn't shoot fir shit for like 2 years. Just because you aren't a pro at something doesnt mean you cant tell that someone is severely lacking. If my tank is feeding his brains out going 2 and 8 am I not allowed to say that he Is not a good tank just because he may be ranked higher than me on that role?

[@Goku-ib2mr]

@@B_bang22 it’s a joke man chill

[@GodSlime80085]

I am master 4 on sups and silver 5 on tank. its hard to swap roles and do great on each one

[@Goku-ib2mr]

@@GodSlime80085 It’s a JOKE

[@syndicategaming1668]

@@Goku-ib2mr didn’t seem like a joke to me

[@johnlake563]

Thanks for the astounding KZbin video. It is indeed way more enjoyable on the tube

[@jessebfmv42]

Those strays going after jay 🤣💀

[@trwatridge8713]

Jay3 quote of the day: "he's 16, he can get it 😏"

[@ryanleonard1856]

“He’s 16 he can f***** get it” Jay don’t say that ever again

[@Fish4Joe]

Idk man. The SR inflation is real in OW2. He might hit GM but I don’t think he’ll get into Top 500. In OW1, this would look like diamond gameplay. Sad to see where this game has gone. Hope he continues to improve!

[@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l]

he’s def better at flying heroes than ground ones but who isn’t

[@rohitashchan59yearsago47]

I was just craving one of these videos :D

[@plagueboi2462]

surprisingly the day im watching this is saturday

[@soundarcz]

He lowkey was holding his weight

[@kl4890]

only in the first map tbh

[@scoffingskeptic]

"He was bragging that he always goes 27/3 in his video games!" Okay dad.

[@praetorianplays]

Pretty sure everyone is taller than Jay3

[@wmanzz567]

Thanks jay3 , i just wanna say that youtube is way better than twitch

[@HaultRxst]

Ain't no way this guy should be in masters even

[@PurpleMoon799]

i was shockes when you said he's only 16! he'll definitely be able to climb in the future he just needs to keep his ego in check and stop blaming his teammates.

[@tylergoupil2351]

so much better here than live

[@seanconnors3462]

He did good ngl

[@Noctua8]

you can tell he was REALLY nervous. shooting walls nervous

[@DCshandle]

Yeah he was jittery fs the biggest example was when he was on the bridge in the first match

[@millertime-7999]

That out of pocket talk with no context but jay you said “he’s 16 he can get it “ then he said gm I was like shhhheeeesh

[@El_The_Elf]

Watching this on a Wednesday>>

[@Alexyes132]

Thanks for the youtube video it's a lot better than twitch here !

[@parzival6964]

He’s the not worst in the world but on the first map he was extremely hesitant and didn’t follow up and punish ppl after they used cooldowns. Like the enemy genji just dashed on high ground and wasn’t in his supports los and he kinda just stood there when he had a pocket

[@linhang1573]

his Mei's walls were so bad . I don't think he knows you can double tap E to change its direction before putting it down.

[@crem4x968]

This video is pretty good, much better here in KZbin. 😉😉😉

[@LogOutWhre]

This youtube video is way better then Twitch!

[@aeneasx7880]

Tbh Jay watching a lots of your streams I've seen worst dps in your lobby than this guy..he can manage top 500

[@tyler755]

I think he deserves whatever level he is spastically playing. He doesn't focus and his aim is erratic. Once he simmers down, he'll climb past where he is.

[@Kyzogames0]

I’m gonna start a go fund me for rubber duck awareness 😅

[@semosesam]

Valid point about the melee before they jump off the map for kill credit/ult charge, but in that particular case, he was still in Echo Copy form, so he wouldn't have gotten ult charge anyway...

[@Toji_OW]

thanks jay for having us!

[@Toji_OW]

I believe he deserves like gm 4

[@Wildkoala1]

He needs to use beam into a fight and flight out of a fight

[@Sakutora]

Watched this on niconico, much better than KZbin or Twitch

[@pureay2700]

He was doing great but got those right clicks man

[@jacobyshmurda2650]

Been watching this series for a min and this is one of the only ones that is legit. FINALLY!

[@SikeNike-oi4sb]

The goat of KZbin

[@jamarcusbonquaviustoiletro8520]

with the state of the matchmaker it wouldnt be surprising for this guy to get thrown in a top500 lobby anyway

[@cancerino666]

To be honest, if knowing having this type of attitude would get me to play in a top 500 game, I'd be down to pretend to be like that.

[@pyr0m4st3r6]

Thats usually the propblem for master players. There are plenty of masters who are capable of pulling their weight in T500 lobbies, but they are lacking concistency

[@aidanbaker3551]

If you truly are in elo hell you should stick out at that rank just just be able to blend in because what if you get bad teammates you need to be able to carry people to deserve that rank

[@DCshandle]

Yeah if you’re really smurfing as he says you should be able to literally walk your team to the win

[@josevega12093]

It really don’t take much to be too 500 when you see how slow this game is compared to other shooters , but of course you have a team to rely on

[@YoBoyGio]

He has that toxic rage voice 😂

[@carlosquintana7880]

Jay3 Ashe with kenzo colab would be fire!

[@rileykashella1512]

I guess seeing stats while spectating is a PC issue because I can see them on console while spectating

[@DanielBrinkmann1996]

If he works on his attitude, he'll get to Top 500. He's cocky and puts himself under pressure when he realizes he's starting too make mistakes which makes him make even more mistakes. If he gets that in check he can get to GM easily, probably Top 500 too.

[@slickadooie]

AHEMMMM (MA-DA-RAH) the greatest shinobi to ever live

[@Aruesx]

I feel like you might need more matchups to see. There's T500 lobbies then sometimes the game will match you up with the super sweaty OWL Top 100 players

[@TroX30540]

If you fly and place the Echo bombs vertically (on the ground), it can be more useful cause it explodes on the ground instead of far away in case you miss the target no ?

[@emiliosalazar1368]

If you calculate the ark, you can still get picks on Hanzo without drawing the bow all the way back.

[@bigyellow100]

When you're echo, but getting rolled by a sym...deserves where hes at, maybe low gm but not t500...yet

[@wifsk484]

3:48 the wings on the border of the ranks indicate which number his rank is

[@nznkettei]

Me and my homie are a perfect support duo except we stuck in gold and plat

[@wifsk484]

16:28 he was playing really conserved and afraid to go for big impact plays i feel like he 100% got carried that first round besides the kills he got at the end i feel like he was mostly spectating

[@TristanDowling]

1st game he was playing smart and with the team 2nd game seemed like he was more thirsty for kills and dying a lot

[@SpiderHuntress]

Fr

[@Seppe1106]

This is better than Twitch.

[@darkheat9946]

The way he butchered the name of THE Madara Uchiha is criminal

[@ytkai2269]

Bro didn’t even know what madara meant🤣

[@badguy5958]

As a fm player I can confirm he belongs here

[@hydronik9838]

Overwatch ranked its so scuffed im constantly carrying tf out of my team with 50+ kills as tank and dps in masters , and i get a plat on my team sometimes

[@AtriseOW]

This is a rare view for sure and that player deserves higher rank then masters thats for sure.

[@dwaffeine7995]

Finally another Elo hell video

[@Azyne]

ngl he played really well considering the difference between Masters 1 and T500

[@travisallende6587]

PVE announcement aged well. RIP

[@TappadaraWest]

I don't know why you always seem like your knocking the KZbin viewers on your twitch. It don't matter what platform your viewers are on as long as you get your subscriber goal right . I do enjoy watching your videos, and you have wonderful content. Much love 💚

[@lukavuolo5894]

cause he gets new viewers thru yt recommended since its a much bigger site than twitch then if he says twitch is better new yt people will go follow his twitch and watch there

[@dogebydaylight]

Just for the memes

[@jonathanm1992]

He wants the money

[@juveintheusa6261]

It’s a joke

[@ezioauditoriedeflorenzeaud7140]

Bro need money for roids

[@snozjam2289]

his teams clearly carrying him

[@driventerror2]

a month later watching the video and I am watching it on a Wednesday rofl

[@nilswink9907]

11:08 Jay 3 is a funny guy

[@a-aa8539]

Damn I came from twitch and I gotta say youtube is waaay better!!

[@strong541]

it is saturday when it is saturday for u yes

[@carson4550]

Bro I was subbed to Jay 2 for so long but never subbed to the main 😂

[@Jay3]

Wtf man

[@volktol4432]

Thank you for not knowing how to say Ma-Duh-Ra, not clowning you, it was just funny to hear lol

[@GriZzDaWG5150]

If this guy deserves top 500 I should be playing in the Overwatch leagues finals😂

[@erocknizzle2]

17:19 "hes 16 he can f***ing get it" uhhhhh