Maybe it’s time to give up...

[@The1WhoEatsCake]

While ill never get into extreme overclocking myself, I do really enjoy watching you do it. Even when it ends in frustration.

[@NewkLambesis]

Yeah same here. I love computers and tinkering but that's more extreme than I could go.

[@Vinyltoast]

Amen brother. Really interesting how it's covered

[@jasonmay1978]

I want to try it but the ln2 pot by itself is like 400$

[@billfiskilis4539]

Same here also

[@maxtheking9176]

I really love watching this. PLEASE continue jay!

[@PNW06SGM]

Jay: "I'm sure the audience is already getting fatigued..." Me: Slowly puts down popcorn after seeing Jay lose his mind for the first time.

[@tradingnichols2255]

🤣🤣

[@PUgrad05]

At least I know where to go when I start to think about Extreme Overclocking to convince me not to do it.

[@Herbertti3]

Its 100% pointless unless you really really want to see your score int top10 lists.

[@dztv7]

*playing cyberpunk, drops 20 percent of frames* *pours ln2 into gpu* "ahhh! there she is!!"

[@JamiePineappleWyatt]

@@dztv7 still drops 40% of frames. Cries.

[@nickllama5296]

It's pointless. It's just dick measuring.

[@adeboyegrillo3408]

@@dztv7 are you talking about the Nitrogen, N2?

[@revanmega15]

this is how any IT professional feels when things dont go as they suppose to and you cant find A that causes B lol

[@richardharrison2802]

Same for electrical engineering

[@jafizzle95]

This is 1000% true "I've tried literally everything and every combination of settings and tweaks and nothing works except for sometimes when it works even though I've changed literally nothing between the last test and this one"

[@gamingwithblaise3822]

That's basically the job description

[@johngelnaw1243]

And then you call over a co-worker to look at it, and the problem leaps off the screen and smacks you over the head. Been there. So many times.

[@stoneymahoney9106]

True story: Server took 10mins to get through it's BIOS/POST/RAID card initialization, multiple engineers couldn't work out why, even going as far as to replace the RAID cards with no effect. One day I accidentally trod on the keyboard, broke it almost in half. Replaced it - problem immediately went away. 1st gen USB keyboard was upsetting the mobo USB controller when polled by the BIOS.

[@yellowonion]

Imagine Jay got trolled and received the worst binned dies.

[@jasonmay1978]

Early April fools from vince lmao

[@gitit20x2]

@F**СК МЕ - СНЕСK МY РR0FILЕ Shut up with that SPAM of yours...

[@GentleWruzzPuppet]

@@gitit20x2 They're just bots, just report them when you see them. It's all we can do.

[@willg955]

"Oh yeah, btw, Jay, that GPU was originally binned for a XC3 Black, lulz"

[@dankone3]

Imagine he received the best of the best bins and he still sucks and keeps making excuses

[@Asj-ze5is]

Jay looks like he wants to cry the whole time lol, please don’t quit doing the extreme overclocking videos, they’re so entertaining!

[@Imurai]

I like to see Jay suffer. I'm a bad man :(

[@wonderloaf]

Sometimes you just gotta walk away and come back another day.

[@charlesxavier4091]

So many times while dealing with PC's bruh

[@stubones]

Sometimes you should realize when you've reached the limit of the hardware's capabilities.

[@kyle7063]

For sure. But definitely come back. Don’t walk away for good. I’m one of those that has to know why.

[@findthetruth1679]

He'll be back with more LN2, I'm sure even Vince has days like this.

[@kraveN911]

Heard of a saying that goes like "The master has failed more times, than the beginner has even tried."

[@tomcanty8856]

@@kraveN911 the fuck second time I've heard this and the first was the other day, why is life like dis

[@TheOriginalCoda]

Jay just take a step back for a while. Don’t quit. You’ll figure it out.

[@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298]

Things like the lightbulb would have never been invented if they just gave up. These things can take years. Yeah I know, It's not quite the same concept, but in the end, patience will overcome frustration. I've experienced first hand in life many times, where just stepping back and giving it time leads to an answer that turned out to be quite simple. Thus, the KISS analogy. Jay's smart enough to figure this out, if he wants to. Looking forward to that day!

[@Tpbmods]

I honestly really loved this. This shows what true passion for a hobby looks like! As a computer case modder its not uncommon for frustration to get the better of me and mistakes are made, only to realize what they were after that "Burst" Love the LN2 series, its great to see you explore all avenues of the hobby! Keep on being Jay!

[@kenzieduckmoo]

when your OC is low enough that Kingpin asks for his card back :P At least he could probably get you a replacement

[@simoSLJ89]

Pretty sure Kingpin would take that card @2700MHz no problem. But I think it's kinda normal, you can't expect, with just 3-4 years of experience, to know as much as people doing it for their entire life/career.

[@dalieu]

In the video it shows that he was given a 2nd card and still couldn't get it to work, so it's not the card.

[@allothernamesbutthis]

@@dalieu would have swapped the motherboard myself. after the second card yielded less than expected.

[@tomcanty8856]

@@allothernamesbutthis definitely could be a motherboard or PSU related issue.

[@Yar6500]

We all have those kinds of moments when you need to stop doing something, take a step back and re-evaluate if it's worth it. Thank you for sharing yours

[@puregibberish]

If I have that many bottles around me I'm bound to take a sip. RIP.

[@jaredchampagne2752]

F

[@DZeroENT]

We've all had these moments, it's important to not give up. Even if you have to walk away and just breath, then do that, but don't give up. Thanks for the vid, as well as, you and your teams effort to entertain and inform. Mucho appreciated.

[@richmanricho]

Alt title: The slow descent of a man into madness and frustration | XOC Fails

[@yen5625]

decent

[@tommyleeinspector]

decent descent

[@richmanricho]

totally didn't type-o...

[@yen5625]

bot

[@tommyleeinspector]

@@yen5625 tom

[@thebigcat8312]

I`ve had days like that trying to fault find on PC`s . It`s great watching someone elses frustration gradually reach boiling point and despair . Good on you for sharing this JayZ .

[@thebosss435]

you could intentionally cause a bad mount to see when it crashes edit: please dont stop with extreme overclock 😭 it's making you feel bad until you get better at it and constantly break world records on ln2 edit2: hope you ever see this, I am brazilian and I watch ronaldo which is our top overclocker I barely remember something about tightening all screws one quarter of a turn each diagonally

[@redfoxq1273]

Jay take this from a guy whos gaming PC is a AMD FX-8320E and a NVIDA GTX 660. These type of videos are not boring. Though I probably will not be overclocking anytime soon, I love watching these types of videos as each one is a learning process for everyone. While you are practicing I am watching and seeing how you do things so if I get to try it I will already have some experience with it. You showing frustration is great. It shows how hard “just dragging a slider” can be. Please keep it up we love you man 👍

[@The_Bearded_Jay]

Lmao at the "Discretion Advised" intro clip. That made me enjoy the video even more. 😂

[@aryanjalali1234]

Its not frustrating to watch at all, its rather fun. Its fun seeing angry Jay as well as it is to see you normally in your calm way. Hope you find the problem because the high you get from solving a deadlock you've been stuck at for so long is so good. Even if you don't record it, I would still want to know if you got through it so please let us know on Twitter.

[@WizardTrizzl]

Jays hobbies: Custom PCs Extreme Overclocking Custom Cars Boats Pissing into fans in a dark room

[@mattwhite8034]

This shows us an actual true, proper human reaction most don't show. Please keep going it doesn't matter other people do these, some make the whole topic seem really boring, when it's actually amazing. Look forward to the next 1.

[@chillwill1083]

I hate seeing people like that. I know that feeling all too well. It's never fun.

[@Gift0r]

"I am a cause-and-effect-guy!" _Thermal issues enter the stage_

[@georgem.6136]

Looking forward to what the issue was!

[@zetdech]

Could it be the super cold air he is drawing through the cpu rad that's messing with the cooling?

[@Alfred1989]

I hate that he doesn't say whats the problem

[@captainkeyboard7273]

@ kzbin.info/www/bejne/moLaZapvjMyLmbM

[@therflash]

@@captainkeyboard7273 Ooooh, thanks... Would never have guessed that!

[@lexeo007]

I was just waiting for him to pour one of his bottles over the damn thing lol

[@alirahmati8309]

Ooof.... Ive had those moments, not with OC stuff but at work.. Only way is to stop walk away for a while and then come back to it... Hahaha but man do I feel your pain Jay... 😩

[@everydayafriday9132]

Love your stuff Jay. Keep your head up. Hvac technician here, and I don’t believe there are many (if any) similarities between what you’re doing here and me trying diagnose a struggling refrigeration system by looking at pressures, temperatures and symptoms on my gauges while someone’s house is 90 degrees in the middle of summer but I recognize that state of frustration, and I respect it. It comes from good intentions, a lot of knowledge to be that far into trying to solve a problem, and not accounting for something fairly basic that you overlooked. I believe in you! Keep up the good content

[@mini-_]

I see that camo LTTstore water bottle. Very nice cameo!

[@adamfriday7308]

he always uses it

[@shadowlink4575]

What water bottle?

[@vortexplays4946]

Where? I can't see it

[@icedmilk3889]

Who is this f me person?!

[@coopermarino2355]

@F**СК МЕ - СНЕСK МY РR0FILЕ why

[@adeboyegrillo3408]

This is when you realize that there is only a fine line between xOC & xOCD.

[@fouriejooste9484]

What does the D in xOCD stand for?

[@varnxxx]

@@fouriejooste9484 *Xtreme* Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

[@Chiny_w_Pigulce]

OC xD

[@Doul3le_T]

I like these videos. Even though you failed, I learned something my man. Keep it up another time. Even though it may be a good bin, it may not be good enough to do what you're wanting it to.

[@Thatguysghost]

vince said to you directly in the evga face off, that undervolting can do more than over volting. dont always just throw more voltage at it.

[@viashadow1515]

Lol whether you want to keep going with this or not, we true fans are still gonna be here. Appreciate you showing us something that some of us never really knew was a hobby.

[@willow4187]

jayz honestly i find these overclocking videos really fun to watch, theyre not boring at all i hope they dont get discontinued :( hopefully kingpin will be able to give you a more detailed process into overclocking these cards at some point

[@RobertFromEarth]

Golfing feels similar to overclocking.

[@channelwhywhywhy]

Amen to that!

[@lkv0315]

Couldn’t have said it better. Doing well, but this is a long hole. Need to go further? Hit it with more power! But it didn’t work and now you’re unhappy, only to go back to what you were doing originally and it doesn’t work at all anymore. Then you’re just angry

[@heygek2769]

learning a new riff on guitar and your fingers keep tripping over themselves, so you try to play it slightly different, but now it's even worse. Does every hobby have these problems?

[@cee128d]

Last time I went golfing I shot a 68, then I went to the second hole. That darn clown was a real witch with a capital B.

[@yungdefy4880]

Jay i built my first pc today, ryzen 7 3700x and a 3070, just wanted to thank you for all the help and guidance throughout my "journey". Wouldn't have been able to do it without u thank you!!

[@TheAntonbacon]

Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

[@aliens1990990]

This shows a lot about a person to openly show their frustration despite how bad they feel about themselves for showing it. Fair play to you Jay love your work!

[@JazekFTW]

High llc can lead to high peaks of voltage under load when the load goes away for a second and then comes back. That peak makes ur oc unstable.

[@humanerror4979]

I'll start by saying I have no clue what is going on at times or what is to be expected, but I can get behind what you're saying, I noticed (of course editing can make it difficult to tell sometimes, just keeping it in mind) he wasn't pouring it right before some of the tests, he was letting it stew a lot longer before the test began, talk about fine dancing and he did get far in the tests! Pouring quite steadily later in the tests, I bet the temps where going so crazy fast in all directions that a splash regulates the chaos and that's what makes it have little impact on as you say "peaks of voltage" and then he decided the best course was upping the voltage and reduce the clock? so it doesn't get hotter? again I am confused as to how this all works, arguably making the spikes much more dramatic and harder to control I bet. I'd pay attention to the voltage while playing with temps, rule out more of the possibilities and of other things playing a role in the madness too.

[@stoneymahoney9106]

@JazekFTW Close, but not quite - it's not the transient load-off voltage spike that causes instability, it's what happens afterwards. With LLC set too high, the VRM will over-compensate it's voltage correction and undershoot the target voltage. It'll then over-compensate for the undershoot and will overshoot the voltage, and then undershoot again, and overshoot again, etc etc. The corrections do get smaller each time so the voltage will level off where it should be, but the higher the LLC setting the longer it takes to do that and longer the window of opportunity for a load to be re-applied to the core while it's potentially power-starved. Not that you can see any of this going on without hooking up an oscilloscope to your voltage lines, but VRM frequencies are (generally speaking) much lower than core operating frequencies, so these corrections take a freakin' age to even out as far as the core is concerned.

[@AdrianReddix]

I pray all of my meltdowns are as calm and levelheaded...hats off to you sir.

[@3djooboy]

well you've convinced me never to even try this nonsense

[@wolfhauzer3178]

thats cause liquid nitrogen doesn't solve ANYTHING it just breaks it

[@conflict-tv]

The only thing LN2 does is prove your score is virtually bigger than someone else’s. It’s 100% pointless unless you’re genuinely interested in some superficial leaderboard that only appeals to a very select number of people. There is little scientific or meaningful study behind it either as Steve (GamersNexus) has said many times. Like anything, it can become an ego “bragging rights” problem when you take it too serious. This isn’t for Jay IMHO. As a content-driven hobby, maybe it’s good for him (I’m not saying he can’t do it by the way) but this is clearly the wrong mentality to have when you’re supposed to be enjoying it. It indicates, once again, that this is about point-scoring a virtual leaderboard taken too far. Jay needs to take a break and then come back to it with a different mindset - preferably one without chasing numbers of OC’ers that have been doing this for decades and will obviously know the every trick of the trade by now.

[@spiv]

i genuinely am really looking forward to what was going wrong and how it will be fixed. i understand getting frustrated and losing your cool and then feeling upset at yourself for losing composure. happens to everyone Jay, and trust me youre better getting out then holding it in. Rooting for you to take the number 2 spot behind kingpin.

[@Sid_Okay]

We need more overclocking!

[@mastertoot9011]

"And that's what makes it so difficult is the fact that I'm no very good at this. I want to get better but I'm at the same stupid wall, constantly. And I know *I'm * doing something wrong, I just don't know what it is" Same dude, same.

[@scarletspidernz]

I'm starting to miss phil's laughter and banter :(

[@dztv7]

are they not still working together?

[@scarletspidernz]

@@dztv7 nah he doesn't do much of the camera work anymore it seems

[@catbertz]

@@dztv7 I believe he's focusing on editing the videos currently. Don't know if that's a more long term plan to split the load with Nick.

[@jordantrujillo293]

Nick has been doing the video and Phil doing the editing for the 31 video series of December.

[@brandonedwards905]

Nah. Phil is annoying as fuck.

[@WarPuppy]

This is not boring. It's fun to watch. Not because you may fail. Because I'm learning a metric shit ton!! Keep trying. you're not a quitter!! Thank you all for your hard work!!

[@eliefares2755]

Was about to sleep, well i guess not!

[@MrPugheaven]

Mate I've been there with water cooling... and it can be a nightmare so we feel your pain, however I love these because you're getting the real world problems us overclockers get so stick with it and keep these videos going!!!

[@sparkz1554]

jay smashes everything "ibrokeit!"

[@GuyPipili]

You forget the explosions!

[@sparkz1554]

@@GuyPipili can't say that word or megumin will smash through the wall like the cool aid guy.

[@HammerShield]

Hahaha

[@malice_plays]

Don't give up Jay. We want to see the struggles and frustrations that go along with overclocking. This is what makes your videos real. I respect you for what you do, lot of people dont want show this side of overclocking. Everything isn't success. Keep grinding my dude, you'll get there!

[@wulfywulfynrir1296]

I gotta say, Jay - as a software engineer I know EXACTLY how you're feeling. I'm all too familiar with a fun challenge of trial and error descending into bewilderment and frustration And holy shit, watching you angry is like looking in a mirror 😅

[@WarrenGarabrandt]

OH man, when I get angry, which I try not to do, I get irrational too. I try to keep calm and just walk away for a bit, but when I start getting frustrated and desperate, and I don't understand what's wrong, I get really angry. 99% of the time, it's some assumption I'm making, and no matter how hard I look at the problem, I can't see past my assumptions, and I usually miss something simple and stupid.

[@Alfred1989]

+1

[@PoulWrist]

I totally understand that frustration. I also really like this OC content, it's great in small doses and when showing progress or frustration.

[@LeoNyeDis]

This video made me feel better about my Overclocking on air and aio issues lol.

[@terrynickman5769]

🥺 I can feel you're frustration. Bleeping bleep be good to yourself Jay.

[@petergriffin-cq5kw]

0:03 and with current market situation that would be... an empty H500 case.

[@Bakaat777]

Jason, NOW you know what amateur golfers (like I was) go through when they start playing, think they're getting better (like I did), then have an AWFUL outing (even AFTER getting to Assistant Golf Pro status). It's soooo frustrating at the same time, fun and intriguing. You tell yourself, you can get better, then you have another bad day, and you break clubs, cuss like a sailor and threaten to quit. Then, the next sunny day, you're back out there. Keep it up, dude... at least WE'RE having fun watching!

[@drvish]

Jay, just kill the card, then you'll be over with this frustrating hobby.

[@MarksterC]

but 1.5k

[@drvish]

@Ankit Meher I agree. Shame to kill nice hardware. But LN2 OC is a wasted effort. Don't get me wrong, I love LN2, I use it all the time as a condensed matter physicist to do real science. But trying to get 5 points more than the previous guy, one can use their time more productively, like actually playing a game.

[@thudvr4dcs287]

Your sharing knowledge, demonstrations, and how-to are most important to me in practical application than in the extreme. Being able to clock CPU/Cards/System up to top sustainable levels for best efforts in games, simulators, graphics applications is the most valuable and adds greatly to the community. You know where to look and when to look there, sharing that special knowledge is golden!

[@daedaluxe]

People who overclock: Hmm if I add more voltage I can get more frames with higher clock speeds Me: Hmm If I drop my voltage I can keep the stock boost clocks but save 10c

[@joshuaphillips7359]

Ryzen overclocking in a nutshell

[@DBRONCOSfan]

But but... I water cool and don't need to save 10c.

[@babnane918]

Or you drop the voltage and rise the clocks.. then you get more frames and less temperature ^^

[@Lunaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh]

@@babnane918 how to get a ryzen 5 2600x to run 3.8GHz stable with good temps using the stock cooler. Fun, but I still prefer the 4.1GHz I get with a water cooling xD

[@lucazoia]

Overclocking is a religion; people don't do that for 1/2 fps more, but for reach the max possibility of their hardware!

[@ryanf32233]

Thank you for being honest Jay. Love the video! Sorry you didn't have fun, I've definitely been there before while working on a project.

[@4TheRecord]

"That's how you pass an object through an object"

[@jimdayyooba]

My life work as a technician for 40 years is to troubleshoot equipment. Troubleshooting is not getting angry because the equipment won't comply with your expectations. Creating a test situation that can be measured to improve performance or "decrease performance" is a learning opportunity to improve the equipment. I would suggest sleeping on it. Countless times I worked for days or weeks on a project, went to bed and the work turned over and over in my mind sometimes for hours, and I woke up with a solution that not only worked but improved the equipment.

[@SoranoGuardias]

Perhaps Jay should look at replacing his power supply or introducing a line-interactive supply?

[@tenorsax856]

As some others said I'll never be personally into extreme over clocking However, it's really interesting to watch you go through it and show when it doesn't go well

[@davykeizer8170]

I was just waiting for him to throw something at the wall at mach 5

[@chrcoluk]

Showing the real side of overclocking which makes it a great video, not just the perfect end result that would have created a false impression of it been easy.

[@chrismcconnell138]

This is how I am with basic overclocking. xD

[@ChristopherHailey]

Thanks for keeping it real, showing the highs and lows. Kudos.

[@PulsarTECH]

More overclocking 😃 great to see real videos! A failure is a step to success! Like Thomas Edison with his 10000 light bulb experiments! Ride on! 👍

[@newjoe2010]

Please Jay, make more of these. I died at the end *frustration approching max level Jay : "lets go really cold!"

[@AluminumHaste]

The program CRU (custom resolution utility) comes with a utility to restart the graphics driver called restart64.exe, should be useful for you in between benchmark runs

[@chuckthetekkie]

While I don't do any kind of extreme overclocking, I've been building and fixing computers for 25 years (almost) and I've had situations where it seems like nothing wants to work right even though I know what to do, the hardware/software just refuses to cooperate. It's like why isn't this working as everything checks out individually but not as a whole and I get so frustrated I too just want to chuck some stuff across a room and let me tell you, all it does is cost you money and you are still frustrated. In these instances I try my hardest to chuck soft stuff or cheap stuff I didn't need anymore.

[@bradreynolds8499]

Don't apologize for being human. We all get pissed off sometimes. It's how we recover from it that matters.

[@ryanwood2110]

Do not give up. You will hate yourself. These videos are good. And real. Keep going matey

[@hammer9856]

The definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result- Albert Einstein a very frustrated scientist at times. Hey, look on the bright side Jay, you're in good company. Give it some thought and time and the solution to the problem will eventually come to you. Ask yourself what changed since my good runs and start to eliminate those variables. Might even be a software problem and not a hardware problem.

[@ElFimpo]

This never gets old honestly. I love this!

[@ecarter2747]

"Frustralian...?" As an Aussie, I resemble that remark... :P

[@j-bro]

I just love the honesty, no bullshit.

[@asteen75]

Remember.. Some times you have a good day. Other times everything is against you.

[@ismakami]

I had tons of fun watching these videos and I'm sad to see it didn't work. But It was fun going this road with you Jay!

[@ragtop63]

Actually, that was pretty entertaining

[@Jules_Diplopia]

So stubborn, so determined to understand.... love it.

[@icedmilk3889]

Jay my man you are very epic...everyone slap like now

[@icedmilk3889]

Wtf

[@icedmilk3889]

Get a life

[@mariosilva2716]

I totally understand your frustration. Its good to know I'm not alone.

[@dropkickdrones4569]

Please, stop using the C Clamp. When u release the clamp it probably F’s your mounting contact!

[@PabzRoz]

Yup. Every time he pulls off the C clamp the pressure will always ever so slightly lift off no matter how tight you make the surrounding nuts because they can't keep that center pressure like the C clamp was doing. Actually makes the contact worse unless he left the C clamp on the whole time to keep the consistent pressure it's giving.

[@PabzRoz]

We called it! Lmao check out his most recent video. Kingpin told him the exact same thing we said was happening with the C clamp and he tried it while keeping the C clamp on this time like I said and started seeing progress. I feel like a genius right now even though it's kinda common sense lol.

[@chayselofgren1217]

2:50 sorry to hear Jay, hope you get that figured out soon.

[@dizzystj]

I feel like this is most ppl trying anything they see on KZbin.

[@ZombieFredo]

These videos are really good and informational. I think everyone has been in that fatigued stressed state, so it's relatable.

[@MRaffie]

Guys, you are tired, before doing reviews, you first read about FBC and their algorithm

[@d4popov]

I've been there too with normal overclocking. You did well Jay. You lasted longer

[@Muratpubgm-ub1bs]

just google FBC fund and don't worry

[@RaaaaaaandyRC]

I can feel your frustration and know how you feel. I'm the same way, I like to know why things and when you cant figure it out it makes you even more mad.

[@tj_2701]

Specially designed Nvidia cards on LN2 can't even hit speeds that rDNA2 cards can hit on air lol

[@Lazy_Lazy_Lazy]

I just hope Jay continues making these LN2 videos because they are entertaining, so long as he isn't hulking out anymore.

[@minotaurbison]

Have you tried to turn the "work dammit" switch on?

[@TehRahlk]

Wow I wanted to just be there and give Jay a hug. I really hope Nick did because sometimes that is just really needed for your sanity

[@moto3266]

It says 10 seconds ago, I didn't even look up the title just clicked in.

[@spicyholo]

I love these videos. Please dont stop making them. Life is full of hills you have to climb. But damn i would love to see, when you get to the top.

[@parkershimer6967]

Why is everyone so determined about being above clocks? Like I have mine on my doorway which is "underclock" and I'm just fine with that

[@therealmotherphuck]

Nice copy pasta, never heard that joke before lmao jk

[@-AWA]

Don't give up, I enjoy your LN videos and I know others do too. Keep at it.