How much GPU Memory do you REALLY need?

People get REALLY caught up on Video Card memory... so today lets talk about how much you ACTUALLY need!
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[@elitespa]

The human eye can only see "out of stock"

[@johannstephan96]

2021 fps measurement

[@nEriTOnEAs]

underrated comment

[@Armendicus]

TRUE!!

[@DemonWhispererRuntz]

overused comment

[@cartoonhead5819]

Still trying to snipe 2 3060Ti's

[@masta602]

That car in the beginning was the speed in which the stock goes out.

[@josefsteiner9163]

Underrated comment give this man his flowers

[@TheAngelOfDeath01]

@@josefsteiner9163 Not only is Flooga's comment underrated, he also nailed reality! Probably even Scalpers driving that car!

[@knockout7833]

LOL

[@kateausten7931]

@@TheAngelOfDeath01 Scalpers towing a freight train with 3090 using a sports car

[@TheAngelOfDeath01]

@@kateausten7931 Yeah, no kidding ms. austen.

[@centigrams]

Can we just appreciate how his videos just start with him talking about the thing we clicked for. More youtubers should do this.

[@rukiddinbro]

Funny you say that. I just got what seemed to be endless string of vids that get to the point after 3 to 5 minutes. "Like and subscribe." Sigh! I do like and am already subscribed. But dude, it can change, just try me one more time... lol

[@centigrams]

@Peter yup

[@dangerd9315]

He needed 18mins to say " 8gb is good"

[@mightym00]

@@dangerd9315 some people don't just wanna know the answer but would also like a detailed explanation. Piss off to Google if you don't care or understand

[@lMMl24680]

At least now you know why it is good and when it stops being good too

[@cheatsheet3325]

Definitely time to revisit this. I watched this and felt a little silly for getting in the EVGA queue for a 12gb 3060 (which I did eventually get), but now I'm so glad I did. Hopefully it will last me until Nvidia gets the memo about VRAM.

[@yol_n]

The 3060 outperforming the 3070 on Resident Evil 4 is definitely one of the moments of all time I'll just wait for the 5000 series if they don't fix their VRAM I'll switch to team red

[@k4t]

I have 8gb of vram and that already feels low on some titles 🫠

[@chills5100]

@@yol_n if u cant wait for new generations then go for old my original plan was to get rig strix 3070 but now I will get rog strix 2080ti as they have same performance and the 2080ti is actually cheaper so I can invest that extra in a powersupply upgrade or a cpu upgrade and the only reason is becuase the 2080ti has 11gb of vram which is very nice compared to 8gb.

[@yol_n]

@@chills5100 might be a better idea to grab the 3080 or 3080ti instead of the 2080ti

[@VibeCheckerzz]

I feel silly troo for having 24gb vram with 7900XTX, but probably I will thank myself in the future for waiting one more generation of GPUs before changing it

[@richburmond6761]

'in stock' memory is what I need

[@Revelationxxx]

I just bought a 3090 prebuilt because 3080s were impossible to get atm.

[@Alias389]

Won‘t happen anytime soon 😢

[@thatoneweebguy6379]

"In stock, but not 2-3 times the msrp" is what i need

[@VoldoronGaming]

👍

[@Julmaa87]

I was in the queue for a 3080 for 10 months, then was like... f'ck this, I'll get a 3080ti...

[@mtguitar5150]

I remember when $500 would buy you the top of the line card, period.

[@jyotshak]

I understand the problem with price increase due to shortage but saying things like 'I remember when things were so cheap' is misleading as hell. Because those graphics cards then could not run games at 4k, or even 1440p high refresh rate, even though monitors existed. So basically what you saying is you remember when the high end were cheap but also couldn't actually keep up with the display hardware anyway.

[@alexoelkers2292]

@@jyotshak What? high end cards have always been able to keep up with the display hardware of the time. You are the type of person marketing departments love. Seeing no problem with a higher price point because the tech is more powerful than previous generations. Thankfully not every one feels that way and manufactures generally need to keep prices relatively down to stay competitive even as tech improves. But you will always have some consumers willing to pay outrageous prices for the newest and best top end tech so you will always have a tech top with diminishing returns when it comes to the price vs more powerful tech .

[@Zeqweery]

Damn 10 series was 5 years ago now

[@Rspsand07]

@@alexoelkers2292 3070 and 3080 at their fake MSRP are a great value, better than 20 series. And ofc things will go up in price. Whether it's more expensive materials, more materials, or just inflation. Though the 30 series didn't even go up compared to 20 except the 3090 but that card is irrelevant for gaming.

[@crazebane4394]

Who u tellin smh

[@brendenrobert866]

The 10 gb edits in this video are super entertaining. 😂 I love your videos. These videos are the handiest thing ever for starting pc building and have saved my skin multiple times already.

[@maxism5454]

TEN

[@brucemyers1121]

Your videos are definitely helpful for learning more about computer components and being able to make informed decisions about what hardware to purchase!

[@john295]

"I'll bet you that's what I sound like" *Actually is Jays car being stolen

[@aladdin1238]

😂😂😂

[@heni63]

😂😂

[@heehaw316]

😂

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Th MAN have a couple of them, that's ok. 8). Maybe.

[@jankees4037]

No he was smart, saw it coming and took the tyres off. They are behind him.

[@ApexLodestar]

3:05 the way the "10!" was dubbed over Jay broke me. 😂🤣

[@darkwolf1739]

He keeps saying 11 like a 2080ti has 😆

[@stangy94]

Lol

[@prismoth]

and the 3080 has _ten_ gigabytes of vram.

[@nickbieber978]

Same lol, is that Phil trying to mimic Jay's voice?

[@nsuinteger-au]

This video aged like fine milk. Jay it's time for a remake of this video :) New games coming out with high res texture packs is not going to survive with just 8GB.

[@TragicGFuel]

Yeah its weird, some times, my friend with a 1080 is struggling to up the view distance while my 3060 is doing fine. Of course the 1080 is still more powerful, but I never imagined the ram being the bottleneck on it. Things move so fast.

[@FireWizardGg]

@@TragicGFuel how r they moving fast the 1080 is so old, ofc old stuff is gonna be outdated idk what the op is talking about. This is literally with anything.

[@TragicGFuel]

@@FireWizardGg I don't think you understood. We are not talking about processing power. We are talking about the extremely poor methods of optimization, combined with LARGE maps and very high view distances causing your VRAM to fill up. Slowing down your experience, even if you have a good gpu. 1080 has less Vram than a stock 3060 with 12gb. Even though 3060 can't process as fast, 1080 struggles on big maps due to it maxing out it's Vram.

[@FireWizardGg]

@@TragicGFuel oh ok, I get what you mean now.

[@TragicGFuel]

@@FireWizardGg glad we could clear it up. Have a nice day!

[@Damaged7]

2 years later and 8GB is starting to show its age.

[@ivancliffbasilad1786]

12GB is the minimum right? if you want good gaming experience @ 1440p

[@1anfinity08]

3gb would not cut it Me playing on my 2gb at 24 fps: Its all about the cinematics

[@davidp4270]

At that point just buy a console

[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065]

The eye can't see more than 24 fps

[@thebearot]

@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 WRONG! I can see the difference between 60hz and 144hz on capable monitors, maybe not the actual fps but the smoothness at least so your statement to me is incorrect!

[@Ghostpro353]

@@thebearot 😐

[@saleplains]

can someone google sarcasm for these guys

[@OnlyGalaxy]

“3gb would not cut it today” Me running on 512mb: this is fine

[@MikeKitchenman]

you're not running at 1440p, I'm betting

[@CONS7AN7INE007]

Define “fine?”, what are you playing, solitaire?

[@OnlyGalaxy]

Surprisingly my graphics card is running at 1080p for almost being a 13 year old card and i can somehow play minecraft. But I recently got a new graphics card so that’s cool

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

512mb ? Even cheap laptop with nvidia mx 230 series have 2 gb

[@kaleomungin]

@@CONS7AN7INE007 it's sarcasm

[@jFactor45]

Great video!! I like the Analogy of the cup and the opening

[@MasonCatalone]

Great analogy for BUS width versus vRAM. That's why I waited for the 3080 Ti for the price difference. Red Dead Redemption 2 on maximum settings uses just under 11 GB while running 200+ FPS (so Precision X1 claims) with 5120 x 1440p @ 240 Hz.

[@ssStolas]

When he said "Next year" at the beginning. I truly felt that.

[@Dildozer68]

ikr. hes being optimistic

[@pat8585618]

Queue titanic song

[@reignman40boozer5]

Maybe... I have a feeling GPU availability will be like covid. Remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve a year ago.....

[@CitizenTechTalk]

I reckon right? What a joke the industry is right now.

[@irvinmorales1409]

@@reignman40boozer5 It's only going to be a problem when those in power want it to be.

[@itzkyoi]

“If you have a slow dribbly pump its still gonna suck” - Jay 2021

[@solarson7363]

i did not have sexual relations with my GPU

[@Th3M4larky]

@@solarson7363 I read this with a bill clinton voice 😂😂

[@jeolijasandrine5822]

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[@MegaNayton]

It's weird that i read this as he said it 😂

[@MrJoeLeger]

You are very knowledgeable and explain in the easiest way to understand. I have used a bunch of your ideas with great success! Thank you very much and please keep your awesome videos going!

[@arunsadasivan1738]

Clear explanation with good examples. Definitely one of the best explanations on KZbin.

[@Strongholdex]

The human eye can not see more than 200 dollar per VRAM.

[@pacosteaa]

- Comment of the Day! :))

[@issahumps]

😂☠️

[@jankees4037]

I gamble 300 dollar per VRAM!

[@IronMan-jj2fd]

U mean per 1gig?

[@iamstartower]

You missed a zero.

[@dgvertical]

When you shop for thirty series in stock, the forties will be fresh out of stock.

[@nickshaffer7659]

And this will most likely be true and with crypto continuing to grow its likely we won't see decent stock for a long time unless something is done

[@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718]

Meh, 1 generation behind current has been my motto for the past 15 years. It's stupid to pay 2-3x for a measly 30% improvement, and that's even without the scalpers tripling the price again. Dummies can pay $2000-$3000 for a 4000-series from a scalper if they want. I'll be slapping a waterblock on a used 3080 I'll prob get for $600-700 and only lose maybe 20-30% performance (not noticable without benchmarks = good enough) over a 4080 (die shrinks are getting less effective and less often in case anyone hasn't noticed).

[@brentwells6802]

Nope , when the 40 series comes out both the 40 and the 30 series gonna be sold out just like now how both the 30 series and 20 series are all sold out lol

[@turtlecat0262]

@@brentwells6802 The silicon shortage probably won’t be this bad by the time the 4000 series comes out

[@DrGVoD]

@@brentwells6802 Well at least we gonna have cheap 20 series right guys? right..?

[@sololoquy3783]

Things did not change in just 2 years. Even in 2020, VRAM matters more than people (reviewers) thought. Games like Cyberpunk, Control, and some others already have problems with 8GB VRAM, things like fps drops, lowres textures, stutter, etc. However, reviewers did not realize this problem, because they typically only play games for a brief moment for benchmark and that's it. These memory issues only appear later on, after a prolonged play session as the memory pool gets more and more saturated.

[@The_Chad_]

BINGO

[@VibeCheckerzz]

And people still defend 4080 with *16 GB of VRAM is good enough*. Yes, is enough today, we don't know next year , when you pay fucking over 1000$ for a card, you don't want to get bottlenecked by VRAM for at least 5 years. I don't use softwares requiring nvidia, I don't use RT and I don't need DLSS at 1440p. Therefore , 7900XTX made more sense for me to be safe . + amd ages better as their cards get better optimised in time

[@martinlisitsata]

As a stellaris fan no ram is ever enough!

[@malec8517]

A year later and now games are making 12GB cards stress with RTX

[@tommiasikainen6193]

I've been playing on a console all my life. I just built my first PC, wanted to do it for a long time. I spent a lot of money on the specs hoping I don't have to upgrade it in a long time. I managed to buy the new RX 6800 xt with 16gb Vram. Hopefully it lasts me at least 5 years haha. So far loving it and the PC experience. Everything Is so much smoother.

[@bodombeastmode]

As far as video memory goes you should be good for a long time.

[@HoloScope]

holy fucking mackerel

[@dasprii7703]

If you don't mind turning down a few settings later down the line (much later, you'll breeze through max settings for probably a minimum of 2 years of new games, if not more) it should easily make it to the 5-year mark if my aging GTX 980ti (released in 2015) is any indicator. I can still run games that just came out (except Cyberpunk 2077 and Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, though they are still playable at low/medium settings) at a mixture of high and medium settings just fine at 1080p, and I'm sure it'd do fine at 1440p too if I turned down a few more settings. I'm sure you'll love being on PC. I switched back during the PS3 era when the PS4 was being announced because I refused to pay a subscription to play online. That was definitely one of the best decisions I've made, I haven't looked back and probably never will.

[@sekcgamer7623]

I mean gddr6 has been out for over 3 years now. In another year and a half we’re gonna hopefully have another new generation of faster memory. By the time the new cards come out your memory is already 5+ years old and if games keep getting more visually intensive. Doubt your card will last you 5 years. The extra memory is a marketing gimmick for amd since they are using last gen memory.

[@Jhakaro]

@@sekcgamer7623 this is nonsense. It will easily last 5 years just not at the highest settings and not at 4k

[@CHEFPKR]

*looks at Premiere* All of it.

[@harrybryan9633]

3d rendering - All of it.

[@OnlyKaerius]

@@harrybryan9633 Ah yes, the Quadro target market. Those are in stock btw. I mean the price is €8300 for a Quadro RTX 8000 in my neck of the woods, but they are in stock.

[@TheBaseUK]

@@OnlyKaerius quadros will never be worth the price :') even for 3d rendering, 3090 is faster at rendering than the 8000 48gb quadro... the new a100 cards are gorgeous and would be good to get but theyre marginally better than the geforce cards, for nearly 5 times the price haha

[@mr_nemo24]

"How much GPU Memory do you REALLY need?" (for gaming) :/

[@arnox4554]

@@OnlyKaerius Technically, everything is in stock. It's just overpriced to hell.

[@abdullahalmassoom6541]

definitely what I wanted to learn... thanks for this video jay

[@tikari3987]

Man what an educational video. I am about to buy a new graphics card and was panicking about the rams, despite the fact that I´m gonna be playing on 1080p the whole time, so 8gb ram will be more than enough for my needs. Thank you a lot for this :)

[@junes2k]

I appreciate the voice over on the "10" correction. I listen to the videos more than watch them & I miss on screen annotations all the time.

[@Dj4Life777]

Totally agree, I hate when it's only a written on screen addendum.

[@nye34]

listen, i’ll take *any* graphics card at this point.

[@earnistse4899]

Just get a console

[@lazerlake]

I have a 740gt. $500 I know what I got. J/K Not for sale.

[@kai990]

got a pci one here with 2mb vram

[@OnizenArt]

I mean I got a 1080 you can buy lol

[@fredocuomo5386]

@@MrVC my gtx 1080 ti is still going strong

[@acidcrow4051]

Hello from the future of 2 years from now. VRAM matters now and 12GB is on the low side!

[@joshdreweck6236]

thanks for the information Jay, learned some great info on how the vram and bus effects your performance

[@CC-bz3uo]

Jay- "8gb is the sweet spot" Microsoft Flight Simulator- "Hold my beer"

[@joeblow5214]

DCS: World: Hold my vodka.

[@2076649]

"hold my flaps"

[@fredericmontpetit5709]

Who cares boring game.

[@Cefn]

@@fredericmontpetit5709 yeah, call of duty is totally origional and new and fun

[@christophersonawane]

@@Cefn lol

[@Netsuko]

Me: How much VRAM does this 3080 have? Booming voiceover out of nowhere: *TEN!***

[@illavitar]

and the older 1080ti is the better computer with it's 11gb ram

[@adammauer4992]

@@illavitar 👀😂

[@Cansislol]

@@illavitar You have no idea how graphic cards work, don't you?

[@ezzahhh]

@@Cansislol No but it clearly must be better since it has 1GB extra of Vram! Therefore the 3060 is now the second most powerful graphics card out on the market from Nvidia, only slightly behind the 3090! /s in case it wasn't obvious lol

[@Asterius_101]

VRAM helps bit it's nowhere near the most important aspect of a graphics card

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

Can you do an update to this with how much 8gb of vram has suffered in the latest games?

[@Bosnian519]

man you have a great channel! wow! thank you for the info with visuals!

[@chankhavu]

How much GPU Memory do you need? Deep Learning Engineers: YES

[@ByTorTheSnowDog89]

Jay: "I'm not going to be making a bunch of 3060 videos" Jay: "Anyway, here's another 3060 video"

[@jankees4037]

Jay hates the GTX1060 3GB, still it comes up in the video like 10 times.:D Secretly he loves the card because it strangles.

[@phondekarvidhesh]

@@jankees4037 Well, atleast the 1060 3gb > 1050ti

[@Squall4Rinoa]

@@phondekarvidhesh the 1050ti is a superior product. it can do 10bit vp9

[@JB-qt3wo]

I love JayzTwoCents. Keep it coming.

[@tim2975]

I love the edits that this guy does on his his videos! 😂

[@Baz87100]

I love how Jay feels our pain with gpus even though he could most likely get them a lot easier than the average person

[@TheComoletti]

We, the viewers are part of his job. And it is expected of him to be able to relate to his viewers to make appropriate relatable videos.

[@chrisweyers4764]

Man sounds like he's had enough of this stuff too

[@Viperspider1]

The parts shortage is actually hurting content creator's channel views. You'll see them branching out to other types of videos because as I believe Jay said (I believe on his Twitter); No one wants to watch videos about something they can't even buy.

[@orlandolccc]

yep, Jay2cents is a great channel.

[@dr.nutsacc]

@Crapshack it’s not that deep bro

[@gmanrulesakarottenruby]

I think that sound was the 30 series coming in and going out of stock

[@robertyoouo9357]

Was probably a Honda

[@monstereng43]

@@robertyoouo9357 Clearly not a Honda when you can hear a v8 screamin when he says it ...

[@AbdoZaInsert]

@@monstereng43 Irish Honda civic ?

[@TheRyugan]

Resident Evil 2 and 3 Remake can be really VRAM demanding depending on the settings you choose. It gives you an indicator in the settings on how much VRAM it's gonna use as you change settings, so it would be interresting to see if it really takes all the VRAM it says it does.

[@xingfira]

I was JUST going to comment about this!

[@yol_n]

This video didn't really take into account the new gen consoles having like 12GB of VRAM and if we count PC optimization + future proofing a 16GB/20GB card is pretty fine indeed. AMD made the damn console parts, and they release 20GB gpu's. Wonder why ;)

[@chills5100]

@@yol_n i think 11gb of vram is good too

[@MrMOGHammer]

@@yol_nnew consoles minus the series S have 16GB of shared gddr

[@shotagiorgadze9232]

If people knew how texture settings work in re titles there would be less comments like this

[@ChocolateMale]

How weird now 2022 and everyone is still testing in 1080p

[@saveourplanet0139]

6:14 “Ten!” That voice sounds so out of place. 😂🤣🤣

[@lilgov7237]

Very helpful for me Jay. I'm about to purchase a GPU and as a novice PC gamer i was unsure of the difference in Vram from one type to another and why one was lower and another was higher. Bitrate/framerate make a difference. Thanks again for your channel. I'm learning so much

[@justinsincoise6693]

Your explanation is very good. I finally got my head around it.

[@user-ex9ti7ds3m]

I’m grateful for the higher than “necessary” vram in the 3060 because that is what I was able to buy for my first pic for learning Blender and Unreal Engine

[@TheeRocker]

probably rocks with blender ;) I held out for the last couple plus years waiting for the 30 series. Still waiting with the price increase and availability. I was hoping it would come back down to reality. Now the 40 series seems like it will be maybe next year with their marketing trying to soak up money from the most dedicated gear junky lol

[@TheeRocker]

Been following the prices the last few months... Likely I'll just grab the 3070 EVGA or ASUS or Gigabyte and skip the 40 series... I'm not wanting to spend more than $500 really.

[@iandownman5119]

“6gb of vram isn’t really going to cut it” as I sit here with my laptop 1050 2gig tryna play warzone getting horrific frame stutters you mention. Just hoping I will have the money and ability to grab a 4080 when those come out

[@richardjavier7236]

If covid doesn't end by the December or next year around 1st quarter, 40 series might be as problematic or worse than 30 series unfortunately (looking forward to that or 50series at this point)

[@vincentw.2289]

once played Warzone with a 1 Gb gtx 750. Even the lowest settings had 1.5 gb as requirments. It was a pain and now I am enyoing it on a usual 1660

[@JD96893]

If your using a 1050 I doubt you will be able to afford 80 series card. By the time the 4000 series comes around I would bet we will see the msrp at 600 or 700. Nvidia has a way of making you pay more than you should and AMD just follows in their footsteps.

[@josephpbrown]

I feel you, was going to upgrade my 770 2gb, looks like that's not happening for at least a year

[@donkeysunited]

Warzone got an update a few months back that increased the minimum VRAM to 3GB. Anything less and you'll get constant crashes.

[@scubasteve39]

As a fellow pilot who is grounded by cancer, and "trying" to build a flight sim rig, seeing flight sim in the testing metrics would definitely help

[@Gassit]

For MSFS you want ALL the vram :)

[@IronMan-jj2fd]

@@Gassit yeah but the 3060 won't even run it properly at even 1440p. Then what's the use of excess vram?

[@jamesryan1926]

Sorry to hear that homie, I hope all is well. I'm a student pilot that was grounded by a little thing called "being too poor to pay for training anymore".

[@scubasteve39]

@@jamesryan1926 thanks man. It's tough to find funding to keep it up, I struggled with that too. Hope you get back up

[@jamesryan1926]

@@scubasteve39 It really is. I went to school for aircraft maintenance to try and boost my income and get back into it, but life has a funny way of just slapping me in the face. My class graduated and got their A&P license May 2020, which means it was just in time for everything to shut down and everyone to stop hiring aircraft mechanics. So I'm in limbo right now.

[@davidb3272]

Great Video, thanks J

[@-Just_Justin-]

I've learned so much in such a short time watching only a few of your videos. Great explanations.

[@highlanderknight]

4:40 Wow, I don't know how Steve's multiple graphs and tables over at GN could ever compare to this. The new standard!

[@alaskanmalamute101]

Lol Jay this is a bus 🚌

[@TOFMDrone]

"How much GPU Memory do you REALLY need?" i would like some more then my 1050TI has currently

[@wheezel55]

hee hee

[@calenelenotso-mau7848]

AGREED!!!

[@stevebalmer8888]

1050 Ti is the most popular GPU on the planet , and is the most optimized because of that, so no need to be sad for you.

[@alicehail8409]

If you are not happy with your 1050ti, I'll relieve you from that burden with greatest pleasure!

[@SpunkyGo0se]

@@stevebalmer8888 1060 6GB is the most popular GPU actually

[@KeRowKi]

nice, made me rethink my build a lil bit.

[@402SHO]

This video needs a part two

[@jaydengeer]

I’m almost tired of watching these GPU reviews and videos, because a tear runs down my face every time. #2021

[@mikelem3891]

Update: I cant do this anymore

[@joeyfortner1158]

Sell your soul. You'll get one

[@mikelem3891]

@@joeyfortner1158 im doing it fuck it , dont repeat my path brothers

[@bjorn1583]

@@mikelem3891 l'm so glad l got my 2070 super just after covid hit and only had to pay retail

[@DarkSide3211]

9 months ago Me getting an RX580: "Mid range but I feel kinda poor" Present time me:"Power."

[@MrSlenderman]

got a 480 last october "it'll be temporal, no worries, April will be my month" god I don't know how to feel about it

[@bradhaines3142]

@@MrSlenderman the drivers have improved it to above a 1060, i say stick to it as long as you can.

[@craftnut]

@@bradhaines3142 i had a 590 but it broke, would still be using it

[@doriangray2347]

@@craftnut wow weird. That was a nice card too.

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

@@bradhaines3142 wasn't it always faster than the 1060? The 3GB version atleast, that's what it actually competed with in price. I think it's now faster than both versions of the 1060, although some select games may disagree.

[@kamk27]

Some serious overclocking information mate! Thanks 👍

[@MrDorkLard]

And it's next year now. Glad you made this video

[@miiiikee_]

24GB GDDR6X seems like a good amount of GPU memory...

[@MoldyMcdonut]

Nah not enough

[@MoldyMcdonut]

Need 48 with a nvlink

[@grosen84]

Yeah 24GB Vram is amazing :P

[@Sebastian-yl7nq]

As someone with a 3090. Can confirm

[@gametests]

Ampere A100 seems ample for my ms paint.

[@veritassyfer1185]

These companies are putting more VRAM on these anemic ass cards like kids used put cold air intakes on stock civics. lol

[@martelmitchell]

still makes more sense than the fart cannons

[@scarkillerful]

Nothing wrong with the 3060 bro.

[@veritassyfer1185]

@@scarkillerful Of course nothing wrong with it. It's no where to be found lol

[@triparadox.c]

@@veritassyfer1185 KEK

[@ninadramteke1999]

GT 730 4 GB 😂

[@perspicacity89]

Very useful and insightful video! THank you!

[@robertprowell7933]

I had to hit the sub and like button not only because the great info received… but I see tires in the background and heard you say that’s what I must sound like when the car passed….. which maked me think you’re into cars and computers !!!! That means you’re a great person lol.

[@techmantra4521]

Is this the fabled "graphics card" that the legends speak of? Legends tell of an artifact composed of composite materials, able to output frames to a screen. The legend is true!

[@johanjacobs9240]

What about MSFS 2020? It is known to use a lot of VRAM. Especially at higher resolutions.

[@MagicDragonesk]

Who tf plays that though really

[@Meatsweats_o_O]

@@MagicDragonesk people.

[@slipknottin]

@@MagicDragonesk it sold over a million copies. Why are people around here so disrespectful of people who play different games than them? I don’t get it. Everyone should be able to play whatever games they enjoy.

[@silverwatchdog]

@@MagicDragonesk 2 Million copies sold. Go back to Fortnite kid.

[@MagicDragonesk]

@@silverwatchdog Lol someone's on their period

[@bluebird0828]

This video great, open my mind more about gpus when buying one

[@naorr69]

thank you ! love the channel!

[@K5Legion]

Jay- "getting way more vram than you need.." My gpu- yea we capped out 2GB ago boss..

[@DC3Refom]

One important point, the vram displayed in lot games is just the amount allocated not utilisation

[@Craft97pl]

but you cant utilize more than is alocated :)

[@IronMan-jj2fd]

Mind blown 🔥🤣

[@elimalinsky7069]

It kinda makes sense. When you load a level, all assets and textures of that level are calculated and space for them is allocated, but the game still streams in data during gameplay as you progress through the level, mostly for LOD management.

[@dethskullcrusher]

This video really needs a 2023 update

[@spathi3309]

Good video, thanks Jay!

[@darkwizzel]

A direct comparison to a 3070 or 3080 would have be very interesting

[@GrandmaHatesTech]

As long as it has pretty colourful lights, it doesn't matter.

[@anhingathing2382]

@ZeroV can confirm

[@twiggystemz7724]

The more RGB the better the PC, everyone knows that!

[@GrandmaHatesTech]

@@twiggystemz7724 How about also adding your own LED Light Strips. Go Big or Go Home :)

[@TechMike_]

Appreciate the drawings. Helps with my visual learning lol

[@laurentiumiu751]

The Vram is good to keep in mind, but for some titles, the 3D Graphic ussage is relevant too. Take for example Warhammer 3. I have a GTX 1660 Ti whit 6G of Vram. I lowered all the settings to about 4 point under optimal in Geforce Experience and reduced the frame rates to 28 from Nvidia Control Pannel. The end result was that the 3D was about 90% which was under 100%. On the other hand, with the same sistem, Warhammer 2, the prevoius title, was using all the 6G of Vram on the default Ultra graphics setting and it looked like it was not enough, reaching 70 fps on its default game benchmark. If I am to run Warhammer 3 on ultra, I do not think 6G of Vram will cut it, I do not remember it, yet I remember the GPU reaching temperatures of 90 degrees which were definitely above 85 degrees. I am curious how demanding will Warhammer 3 be when the Immortal Empire cames out, I doubt 8G of Vram will be enough, the cooling archotecture must be over the top and the 3D Graphics will probabily push the temperature over the 85 degrees as well. My GPU usually sits at 60 degrees and when not used, at under or aroumd 40. Those 3D Graphics are killing it.

[@Shatterfury1871]

I just bought a SH 1060 Ti and I am more than happy with it. You can run the game in high and lower the lightning effects. I am more then sure I will be ok with my card, I don't need to see the blood stained hair on the arms of burly Kislevites. 😁

[@frankmartinez5059]

The amount of redundancy is ridiculous . 90% which was under 100%. Then you reaching 90 degrees which was definitely more than 85 😭

[@Lyka-clock]

Yea, Ultra isn't a recommended setting. That's an easy way to cripple things with diminishing returns from the high setting. I got the 3060ti 8gb and WH3 is no problemo and running at a normal temp. The memory bus is also 256 bit which is damn good. You could have an airflow issue with case like not enough exhaust. Also the 1660ti may not be enough for the recommended GPU with that title anyway. I'd probably double check system specs for WH3 first.

[@justinabersold9150]

“People upgrade every 4-5 years” 12GB may not be important now, but what about over the next 4-5 years?

[@1986Hikaru]

"How much Nvidia is going to fuck this 12GB up in next 4-5 years?"

[@aa-tx7th]

probably not at all remember, all hardware made two gens ago can run almost any game at medium at 1080p thats by design since no one with a brain wants to leave money on the table. and devving for high end hardware and leaving 80% of the market not even capable of running your game is doing just that

[@LiveType]

12GB? That's plenty. Even for 4k. 8GB? That's not enough. You literally got that amount 5 years ago and is one reason why pascal has aged well. The 10gb of VRAM on the 3080 was a difficult choice for Nvidia to make. Since there are no 1.5gb modules, it was either 10 or 20gb. That's about an extra $150. Is it worth it? Difficult to say as Nvidia will correct that issue with a 3080ti at some point in the future.

[@declaredsnow]

yeah not really happy about losing a GB uppgrading from a 1080ti to a 3080... Now its fine. But I Normally skip a gen. Atleast im at 1440p. its something.

[@jogeem5480]

Yeah I sure was happy about getting a 390 instead of a 970 because of the vram but after my 390 died at 3 years old I got a 1070. They both have 8 gigs and now after having the 1070 for two years vram still has not been an issue. My guess is that 12 gigs will do fine in 5 years. 10 might not.

[@eatmyfishy]

Also you should talk about how with VRAM it’s a good rule of thumb to have at-least 2x your VRAM in system memory as it appears many game engines or graphics drivers use a working set is system memory that’s similar in size to the currently utilized VRAM.

[@carlosrivera1184]

I love seeing this videos I don’t even own a Gaming PC but I see them anyway

[@JoshKetchum]

Just subbed you for this video.. nice to see someone with some common sense!

[@minhnguyengia5069]

Appreciate your videos Jay. Some graphs will be better!!!

[@ryzensavior891]

Helpful to know, I game on a 1440p and just got a rx 6800 xt, 16 gb did seem a bit overkill. One thing no body talks about is that it's not just new but all gpu's that are crazy expensive. I paid $1400 for the 6800xt, but only because I traded a 5700 challenger I paid $350 for new. For a Vega 56 and a 8 gb 580. I sold them for $800 and $550 respectively... So I upgraded for $50 out of pocket. That's been my best upgrade for the least amount of cost. Not bad...

[@JellyTwitches]

Had a 3060ti FE traded for a 3070FE Then traded that to some miner for a brand new EVGA 3070ti FTW3. This market really has us out here being creative lol.

[@swdw973]

Color me jealous. 😉😁

[@lloydaran]

Actually, you paid 1400 - 1350 reselling price of both cards + (original Vega price + original 580 price). The reselling isn't just "clean" money, you got to subtract what you bought them for.

[@robertweekes5783]

There's a big difference between using a flat monitor and VR (Quest 2 with Virtual Desktop streaming or Valve Index, etc.)

[@RevanPorkins]

I now have 2 30 series cards. Extremely lucky to have found them near msrp 3060 evga xc and an auros 3070 ti master edition. The extra vram allows me to pump settings to max in 4k but the 3060 stillnisnt fast enough anyway. 3070ti turn down one setting to reach Vram limit no visual difference but twice as fast

[@chamikakavishan5060]

Would you recommend 3070 over 3060 on 1440p gaming? please help

[@RevanPorkins]

@@chamikakavishan5060 3070 is better but the 3060 is still good

[@chamikakavishan5060]

@@RevanPorkins should I go with more vrm 3060?or stick to 3070 8gb?is it future vise?

[@RevanPorkins]

@@chamikakavishan5060 the extra ram helps some but if you got a 3070ti it has 8gb of gddr6x which is faster of you cwn get w 3070 for w good price got with that

[@RevanPorkins]

@@chamikakavishan5060 3060 is really good for 400 th o depends on budget either card can max any game just differ3nt resolutions

[@365Nicki]

Jay : “After nVidia reach out ...” After your “salty” opinion piece about the 3060, I BET they reached out!!! Please don’t knuckle under to their pressure. Keep your videos honest AND salty. This whole GPU generation so called release is totally f’ed up and most of us are going to skip it. If we can’t get it, it is irrelevant.

[@aheenobarbushenocied9880]

Got mine. had to line for 3 months though.

[@deletice]

@@aheenobarbushenocied9880 got a 3060 ti on launch day online I AM THE FASTEST MAN ON EARTH

[@thulegezelschap5884]

I still have a 2080.. skipping this generation at these prices for sure

[@roknroller6052]

I like the technical explanation why, instead of just opinion. But I'm upgrading from a 1070 oc 8gb, why is the 3060 ti 8gb not 12?? but he didn't answer that.

[@TripleLayerLemonCake]

@@roknroller6052 well you don’t really need 12 GB in a gpu if you are just gaming. Games won’t even use but about 4 GB even with dlss ramped up (I’ve got the 3060 ti and the most ever used was 5 GB with metro exodus)

[@rohankhan5794]

Can we all take a moment to appreciate how simple yet gorgeous that 2060 looks

[@dadjake]

Agreed. I didn't really like the design when it came out, but it's grown on me. But the sexiest GPU thus far imo is Nvidia's Quadro RTX A6000 with that shiny plastic/piano black finish. So simple, but so elegant.

[@jayhardline7557]

3000 cards are better

[@nesquik9579]

@@jayhardline7557 cap 2060 and the 2060 super white looks so good

[@sammieorgnl3471]

my rtx 4070 is sexier

[@slendydie1267]

30 series look much better. If i could chose i'd get a 3080 FE.

[@randyschweitzer8648]

Very educational thank you

[@gigachad1926]

Buying a 6gb gpu (rx 5600 xt) back in November 2020 for about 280€ feels like the best choice I made in my life...at the time I almost backed out from buying it, thinking I should wait some months so that I can buy a more high end gpu... glad I didn't

[@SullBhit]

same here, only concern i had was about vram limitations, but its gddr6, and i havent ran into any issues because of the low amount of vram. absolutely love the card, espically coming from a damaged 5500 xt out of box

[@Lex_Cheesington]

"3gb would absolutely not cut it!" *me glaring at me 1gb card*

[@shadowopsairman1583]

The 3.5 being claimed as 4gb was a ngreedia scam

[@volkanayyldz889]

@@shadowopsairman1583 what about GTX 690 advertised as 4gb when in reality it's 2gb because vram does not stack in dual GPU card. My next card is going to be from team red.

[@JuanTorres-gn2ss]

@@volkanayyldz889 same I’m going to get the rx 6700

[@PhoenixNL72-DEGA-]

@@JuanTorres-gn2ss No your not. (At least not this year :P )

[@fenrir20678]

Good video. I only feel like one point is missing. Memory allocation is not necessarily memory usage. Means, that if MSI Afterburner / Riva Statistics Server shows e.g. 5 GB memory, it means that the game allocated / reserved this amount of memory and not necessarily that it really uses this amount at the moment.

[@khalilveronessi4819]

Mmmm so, you are seeing memory allocation more than usage in msi afterburner. That's why Horizon zero dawn "uses" 9.2gb of vram out of the 3080. Maybe is not using it, it only reserved it.

[@dylon4906]

this is almost definitely the case, cod mw can "use" up to 15gb of my 16gb rx 6800

[@cw7325]

I never used the overlay of Afterburner. Though I can tell the program shows usage as well. Everytime Wreckfest starts lagging I know graphics card really uses 8GB of RAM and can't find more space to work with. At least this is the only game of mine, that eats up all memory.

[@cdmarshall7448]

I do find it confusing like in the Resident Evil remake it uses RAM in place of some VR for no reason I can see. Maybe it's the 1080p resolution I play in but I doubt I've ever seen over 4gb of VR used ever and I have 8gb.

[@Dennzer1]

So then WHAT do we look at for actual usage? why do I keep hearing this from comments and from Gamers Nexus guy, etc.? I 'm not even saying it's incorrect. What the hell is the reason for us getting this useless number and never getting the actual number we fuc|

[@simpson6700]

it is "next year" now and i needed this video. the VRAM sizes in the 30 series are really weird.

[@dbwgoblue74]

In Borderlands 3, I noticed a massive jump in memory usage going from Direct X 11 to 12. Not sure which version you were using.

[@ultimatemvpden25]

I've already run into a few games that need more than 8gb vram at 1440p. If you max GR Breakpoint at 1440p you'll eventually run into stuttering on an RTX 3070 due to vram being maxed.

[@4gbmeans4gb61]

Iv seen games using over 20gb lol. And any game where you super sample the resolution, it uses a shit ton of memory.

[@MultiYippee]

@Tjokkaflens I can somewhat understand it if you want to counteract the blurring that poor TAA implementations can have on particular games (like RDR2 used to suffer from), but in general, yeah, there's no need to supersample

[@Nobody-su9km]

@@4gbmeans4gb61 no game uses 20gb vram, they eat all the vram you have no mather how much, it doesn't mean you need the 20gbvram it just means the game is poorly optimized. COD warzone is an example, it will eat all 24gb vram

[@JeffBourke]

3:06 it’s truly amazing what they can do with special effects these days.

[@jesseleite]

I recently upgraded to an RTX 2060 with 6gb VRAM and I’ve noticed Dishonored 2 is quite the VRAM hog, to the point where after playing through a level, I sometimes start experiencing the bad stutter and then a crash to desktop. Thing is, the game runs beautifully for a time, but it seems as I explore a level, VRAM slowly climbs, and it doesn’t garbage collect. All that said, I have textures on ‘Ultra’ in-game, so I’m going to fiddle with lowering a few settings and keep monitoring VRAM. Thanks for this video!

[@cuthalionbeleg1267]

I think what you describe is a memory leak.

[@jesseleite]

@@cuthalionbeleg1267 Indeed very possibly. Lowering the textures from the 'Ultra' setting seemed to fix for me; I didn't have any problems after changing that at least.

[@markkoops2611]

It’s crazy, pre 3D graphics everywhere I remember selling kits to upgrade video cards to 1MB for Windows 🙈

[@monte_2000]

"It's so neat to watch." Literally watching a number go slightly higher lmao. I love this guy.

[@jankees4037]

Yeah it's far from a test review. It's like reviewing GPU's 3.0.

[@jb34304]

Half his problem is that he never restarted the games after altering all those settings. It's going to use the same old stuff regardless of what he changed. Some games won't load new resources until textures/etc. are optimized.

[@nickcifarelli8887]

Great video. As a content creator, several OTHER factors apply: the better the textures are baked into the game, the easier the game load. And as a Maya/Max user, the more vram u have the larger/more complex geometry and textures you can load/render. Hence why Quadro cards routinely have double the vram of the GeForce/RTX line of consumer gaming cards.

[@ProjectPhysX]

In scientific compute you need even more. Ever since I played with 512GB VRAM across 8 MI200, I can't go back.

[@jay_volpe]

Content creator

[@mavinms]

love your videos. You are the best. To the point, no crap. I am great fan of yours.

[@BrilliantSunsGaming]

rofl I love the "TEN" dub over Jay talking. Cracked me up every time I heard it.