Are custom Intel Arc Cards worth it? Sparkle B580 Titan Review

[@pierregrosjean6355]

20 dollars for 10 less degrees, less noise and 15% extra power efficiency, all thanks to more passive cooling ? Totally worth it, there's no way to make those 20 bucks have such a big QoL impact elsewhere in the entire build, especially given GPU are the most noisy and power hungry part to begin with. The 20 saved watts will also get you the 20 bucks BACK in the long run ! (Actually pretty fast if you live in Europe and have expensive electricity)

[@bgg-jp5ei]

It has 3 fans so it's not passive cooling. Correct about the power usage

[@pierregrosjean6355]

@bgg-jp5ei What I was thinking about was the "extra" passive cooling that makes the bulk of the difference. But you're totally right, it has an extra fan as well ! 👍🏻

[@drdirs]

Yeah, if you use it for 5 hours per day, five days a week, that's 1 kWh every two weeks. In many places right now that would easily save you $20 on your electricity bill within a year.

[@bgg-jp5ei]

@@drdirs The highest per kWh cost in europe is denmark at just under 0.4 euros. So that equates to around 10 euros per year so would take two years to save the 20 euros (or dollars as the exchange rate is currently almost 1 to 1)

[@LiveErrors]

yeah, and given that the worst part of these cards is pwerformance per watt, if a bigger cooler partially fixes that then Haleluja

[@LifesaGambleZL1]

$20 is worth the power savings over the life of use of this card.

[@johnt.848]

Shame the Sparkle looks shit IMO.

[@LifesaGambleZL1]

@ if you are worried about looks better save to get those $2500 gpus. At the cheap price of $250 who cares what the gpu looks like. And I don’t think it looks bad at all.

[@XenonArcher]

@@LifesaGambleZL1 or he could just get the asrock card? the white one? would look great in a white case etc. or wait for acer to drop their card which is black and silver and very understated from what i can see of it. chances are, those cards perform just like the sparkle card, being 3 fan cards with larger coolers. the asrock steel legend is actually ever so slightly cheaper at least when i look online in the UK. the acer one doesnt seem to be on sale yet though, or it was and sold out. not sure

[@LifesaGambleZL1]

@ yeah I like the AsRock Legend card. It is nice

[@ignaciotomasi]

@@XenonArcher acer has a good looking variant too

[@nabhan1999]

seeing how small the actual PCB is, I'm interested in seeing if anyone makes ITX versions of the B580 or B570. That would be really attractive

[@AakashKumar-tn6yh]

Mini ITX u mean?

[@fajaradi1223]

​@@AakashKumar-tn6yh Is there any non mini "ITX"?

[@micobugija6284]

@@fajaradi1223 used to be

[@patrickgeorge4306]

I'm personally looking forward to a low profile B580. Right now the 4060 is the best option in that form factor.

[@kyleklukken4089]

Used to be ITX, Mini ITX, and Pico ITX​@@fajaradi1223

[@ilbro7874]

ONLY $20 more for power savings, massive temp decrease and a quiter card? 100% worth✅

[@themc.kennyshow6585]

In the UK i still can't find the limited edition. But the Sparkle and asrock ones cost around £260-270. Still a god price in my eyes. £30-40 nore than the 7600, same price as the average 4060 and 3060. As an AMD fan - Good job Intel.

[@Noine14159145]

Also, Jay tests in temperature controlled environments. Now imagine having 35c and no AC. Since delta over ambient stays the same… 78c on the limited is probably about 56c over ambient. In a 35c environment that’s 92c? The Limited Card will massively ramp up fan speeds and maybe throttle?! The sparkle might also get loud but keep the clocks way longer

[@patricklee8552]

but who wants a GPU with out Freesync or G-Sync

[@Noine14159145]

@ freesync works… it did on alchemist

[@patrickproctor3462]

@@patricklee8552 Intel Arc supports OpenSync/FreeSync (1.1/1.2) as long as your monitor is new enough.

[@roydavid5761]

That Blue would look slick on a white case and board.

[@moej6014]

I wonder how close it is to the ASRock Sonice the hedgehog mobo

[@MagiconIce]

Also in black, but I'm subjective here on the Aesthetics, since Blue is my favorite color :D

[@John_R_Jackson_III]

AMD CPU'S & Intel GPU'S we truly live in a world

[@SYLperc]

nvidia cpus next

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

@@SYLperc please no... they'd have no problem selling us quadcores with DLSS compute generation (making shit up, like fake frames) for 500 bucks

[@shesqueeled]

atleast my AMD cpu wont cook itself to death out of the factory 🤷‍♂

[@Daniel-ru8je]

@shesqueeled i bet you never even used an amd cpu...

[@shib5267]

​@@SYLperc erm actually there are nvidia cpus and some arm systems support pcie gpus, so you technically game on an nvidia cpu and amd dgpu

[@kspfan001]

my fiance has the sparkle a770 16gb in her gaming pc and she has never had any issues with it. She plays BG3 upscaled to 4k @ 60fps on it. Been impressed so far with sparkle cards and I enjoy their aesthetics & whimsical/fantasy naming.

[@SciFiDude79]

@@kspfan001 Sparkle is a good company. They used to make Nvidia cards. I was glad to see them back in the game as Intel's GPU partner. I love my Sparkle A750.

[@S1eeperServ1ce]

I have a Sparkle Arc770. Built like a tank. Overclocks willingly. Mines at 3000mhz. Never heats beyond 68• Drivers are always something to look forward to and the updates are frequent which is really nice. Thought it was crashing a few weeks ago but my ram wasn’t matched properly before initiating XMS. I play Space Marine 2 at 59 frames with no stuttering and Ready or Not is perfect in high settings and I play at 1440p native.

[@hollowgut3719]

Is bg baldur gate?

[@jmangames5562]

@@hollowgut3719 Yes

[@Hetsu..]

@@S1eeperServ1ce 3000? That has to be incorrect. Theres no way the alchemist card is at 3000.

[@ChukiTheErmine]

Intel "Limited" GPUs already completely OUT OF STOCK, so there is no choice between custom and Intel's ones.

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

not to mention none of them being anywhere near MSRP outside of NA. Cheapest B580 in euroland (Germany in my case) is 319eur for this sparkle one, and it only goes up from there edit: from official shops, not price gouged on amazon marketplace, ebay etc At those price points, there's zero point in getting one over something like a 6750XT

[@tygovanbragt]

@@Knaeckebrotsaege It's insane... I want to buy the b580 in Europe and now I'm debating whether or not I should buy the card for 320 euros or that I could better wait some weeks. What do you think?

[@Nero1702.]

I don’t know about Europe but Amazon over in the uk has quite a few fake b580’s at the moment and the only reliable place that I’ve found selling them is UK overclockers, selling them for about 250 pounds

[@RichardMontgomeryYT]

​each overclockers has like 3 all for just above 250. Still above what they should be, $259USD is a lot less than £250 but what can we do?

[@SugarFreeTargets]

I'm seeing third party B580 being sold for $400 USD on amazon. Price gauging has already begun

[@byCDMC]

You gotta be kidding me. You did all the tests and you didn't include the temperatures/noise under load, the only thing that might differentiate these two cards :D

[@solid_fire9388]

i agree on temperature but does noise really matter ? most gamers will be wearing a headphone indefinitely

[@ahihi7706]

Who tf cares about noise, it's different from vga model to vga model anyways

[@HX_]

​ @solid_fire9388 you're a very closed minded individual if you think gamers only wear headphones. I know people with good headphones and good speakers and 9/10 they will use speakers unless playing something very competitive where they need to hear every single detail. If nobody cared about noise, we would still be buying blower style cards. Manufactures them self went away from them cause they are stupid loud and annoying even if you use headphones.

[@Eonymia]

@@solid_fire9388 I can still hear my GPU ramp up its noise levels when playing sometimes and I have an ANC headset. (The culprit is War Thunder that for some reason will push like 110% power into the 3080 if I let it with afterburner)

[@nethri1]

@@ahihi7706 I for one find value in quieter cards and bought my wife & I's latest GPU's because they were quieter. $20 for a much quieter card is 100% worth it to me.

[@fleggle]

That much lower average power draw makes it look extremely tempting

[@brettbuterbaugh934]

Totally, you'll recop the cost

[@FilippoCarrux]

Hey Jay! There's a little program for Arc cards, called ARC OC tool, that let you set and offset voltage and frequency both in + or - . So it could be interesting like see how much voltage pull the card under 100% load at stock and then try an overclock without increasing the power consumption. Or, eventually, both undervolting and overclocking. I think that when the overclock comes in, the Titan custom is totally worth.

[@n8sdr473]

no longer available as intel has gone the all in one tool now for their GPUs

[@mytech6779]

Cooler can mean longer life. Anyway the Intel guy was saying that overclocking is a manual affair and warranted separately from the AIB (voids Intel's warranty), and Intel isn't bothering to do binning but the AIB are allowed to do their own binning.

[@NocturnalMantis]

You know, I'd buy it for the looks and the 10c. Just $20.

[@Verchiel_]

I'm not sure if i'll even have a glass side panel on the first pc i'll be building but if i do, i'm spray painting that sparkle shroud.

[@roqeyt3566]

In my country it's a 10€ difference between this and the challenger card At that point its a tossup between the form factor and the benefits, but the €10 is easily justified

[@wolfpackflt670]

Daily reminder: DON'T BUY FROM SCALPERS.

[@user-tj4ee6si7x]

My scalper sold me a brand new 4090 for $1650 with the new H++ 12V-2x6 connector. So sometimes buy from Scalpers.

[@thomaslayman9487]

@@user-tj4ee6si7x that's not a scalper, that's just a used product seller lmfao

[@DatSun.]

​@@user-tj4ee6si7xhow is that a scalper then

[@zack9912000]

they have bought out them in seconds

[@EzaneeGires]

I doubt Intel GPUs will be hot items for scalpers

[@mr.guillotine1312]

I don't normally give a damn about overclocking but I really want to see Jay try and see how much more you can squeeze out of these Intel cards...

[@fajaradi1223]

On a stock cooler? Or with janky impractical extra cooler?

[@user-suzie1818]

@Jayztwocents The larger cooler gives more overclocking headroom. You didn't even try, so you didn't see the difference. They performed exactly the same out of the box, but they have different ceilings if you tried overclocking.

[@chillhour6155]

both are great value, whichever ones in stock and depending on youre case's size both are a good choices

[@zeekjones1]

3:15 I just got a possibly crazy idea; carefully remove/bend a few of the fins, and bend the heat pipes 90-degrees. Could even go as far as removing *all* of the end fins, and connect a custom grooved block, to sandwich the pipes directly to the case. _Crazy SFF mods!_

[@Valthalin]

Pointless pricing if gamers cannot get them at the MSRP price. I can barely find one for +120$ over that within 6 hours of the video being posted. If it preforms like a 400$ card all the retailers will jump the price up to that amount apparently. Intel needs to make WAY more of these and get the board partners in the same program of direct sales to keep the middlemen from raising the price to scalper levels. All this talk about a price that gets you in fact... absolutely nothing. Disappointed dad face.

[@josephrankin6055]

Don't fall for the free shipping line. The $120 is the price of shipping from the other side of the earth.

[@AG-mm9wn]

I preordered one at original price

[@ejtaylor73]

Good to hear Sparkle brand is still around. The very 1st PC I ever built had a Sparkle GT630 with a whopping 2048MB of DDR3 RAM, and it's cooling consisted of a single fan no bigger than a chipset fan.

[@pedja5146]

Here i thought it was something new...as new brand.

[@Daygunjim]

I'm someone that cares a lot about the amount of noise my PC makes under load (I sit half an arms length from it). I will run custom fan curves everywhere to balance out the noise and thermals as quietly as possible. $20 for a huge decrease in temps allowing huge headroom for lower fan speeds and noise is a no brainer for me

[@Daygunjim]

@@shesqueeled Sorry not following what you mean, the cards are the same specs?

[@Zecuto]

Even at the same level of performance, I do appreciate having some cooling leeway because at worst I just get a quieter card.

[@gr81matt]

There is a white Gunnir B580 card that is 450ish. Granted it's got a bunch of fancy screens and lighting, but I'd be curious to know if that still performs nearly identically.

[@p00ner]

I like the look of my Sparkle A770. The light bar across the top of it changes from white to blue to yellow depending on its temp. And the purplish hue is different for those of us who can see blue.

[@francb1634]

20$ for the drop in heat and power consumption feels like relatively decent value. enough that I wouldn't feel like I "lost out" if I wasn't able to get a Limited instead.

[@Onticly]

The sparkle cards look so much better imo which is why I'm sticking with them mainly lol. I have mine in a white and blue build. It looks so clean!

[@spaznetwork6982]

I bought the ASRock Challenger B580 because it was smaller as it is going into my HTPC Mini itx case. It was only $10 more.

[@Nahgooyen]

Where can you buy these cards right now?

[@spaznetwork6982]

@Nahgooyen I'm in the US and preordered mine from Newegg about a week ago.

[@Kenoooobiiiii]

@@Nahgooyen Right now everyone is sold out. Newegg for instance stopped taking preorders pretty quickly once the benchmarks dropped. The Acer nitro card would be the one to grab on newegg, they have an ETA of 12/20 for stock.

[@UBGood]

You can’t… fail

[@WereCatStudio]

@@UBGood I see 10 Asrock cards in stock here in Slovakia... they are 338EUR and 348EUR though... The Intel Limited Edition card is 296EUR but not in stock, it's expected to get restock this month though and it's actually MSRP with tax included so I doubt that there will be anything cheaper than that. The RTX 4060 and RX 7600 can be had from 280EUR and are actually in stock but 8GB of VRAM is pain.

[@joesmith7185]

Really want a low profile one of these cards for the kids old dell PC

[@mreszotnik]

It will work out well only if you can enable Resizable Bar in Bios.

[@davecletheroe6625]

you can get a sparkle A380 in a single slot variant which uses nothing but pcie power, perfect to drop in a SFF dell, the only thing to check is that the processor is intel gen10 or newer to get rebar support (off hand I think its optiplex 3080, 5080, 7080 or newer) it really handicaps these graphics cards otherwise

[@LoudFlameKing]

​@@davecletheroe6625Dell is really weird about rebar support. I have a Dell Inspiron 3910 with an i5 12400 and it doesn't support rebar. I didn't know that at first so I popped an a380 in there and was pretty disappointed with the performance

[@Mike-jb3xe]

U gonna need 4090 Ti for your kid to do PowerPoint with AI++

[@joesmith7185]

@@davecletheroe6625 that's good to know it's an 8th gen i7 my hope is gone it's for the nephew anyways so he can wait for a real upgrade

[@topelite666]

the b580 was a nice paper launch. Spend 450$ or get nothing as everything is sold out. lmao

[@darkkingastos4369]

Half the stock went to KZbinrs lol

[@FlexLex]

Tom (from MLID) will be gloating about being right about this til Celestial comes out. If it does...

[@lucazani2730]

​@@FlexLexas a MLID fan: Tom was completely wrong about the Gpu being bad (not technically speaking, all tech he leaked came out to be true, but he was uber negative towards arc, too much imo), yet he was completely right about availability

[@StarsAtNight1]

What I don't understand, how are people paying those prices? For that kind of money you get better performance at ngreedia and amdollar. So there should not be a market for scalpers. Unless they sell to fanboys that deserve to be scalped.

[@Mavis847]

They probably weren't expecting much demand due to previous gen, I guess all the positive press surprised them. Maybe they will increase production for next time.

[@wanderingworldofcharlie]

everything all sold out and in the hand of scalpers now. i have already seen prices at +400 for a 250 card. TOTAL BULLSHIT!!

[@ExcaliburTTP]

i mean with todays current BS was this not an oversight? we already know scalpers are everywhere.

[@shiftctrlhack]

Give it time they will restock don’t buy from a scalper ever.

[@MMillerPCs]

@@shiftctrlhack yeah they will restock months from now and scalpers will get thema again..

[@Verchiel_]

the b580 cards are 330eur by default i think at least where i live, ironically the only available ones are the sparkle ones, and i'm super tempted to pick it up right now. My laptop ain't cutting it and i've been immensely tempted to build a pc for the first time.

[@toddblankenship7164]

Mrsp is a joke it'll never be that

[@PreauxGaming]

the consistency is a great sign very clean power and efficient performance

[@SciFiDude79]

Ironically, I saw that the Limited card was in stock at NewEgg, and I managed to nab one *before* I watched your video. After watching the video, I'm glad I saved the $20. It's funny because the Sparkle one is listed as an "OC Edition," but it overclocks just as much as the Intel one does. 😂 Man, Sparkle went extra blue with the new cards. My A750 has a darker blue shroud and a black back plate. Gunnir cards are the Battlemage cards with the insane markup. Over $100 more than Intel. 🙄

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

Gunnir will fail or.... they now something about upcoming gpus from nvidia and amd.

[@SciFiDude79]

@ I could see them not doing well in the US market, but maybe in other countries. They’re a Chinese company, and a lot of those Chinese component manufacturers do well in parts of the world where our more common brands aren’t available or are very expensive.

[@SilverDragn]

I like the way Jay thinks, and he isn't afraid to tear thing apart out of being curious. Thank you.

[@ivovass195]

I could only find the Sparkle card in my eastern European corner of the world so I did order for 318euro (20%tax included and free shipping). 10C lower temperatures, less power consumption and quieter is totally worth it imo. Can't find the intel limited from local stores and I hear it sold out quickly elsewhere. Now gotta wait for it to arrive next week for an early Christmas gift. Was considering a rx7700xt but it's 450euro new(rare find local used are ~340€ no warranty) so the intel price to performance wins my budget choice, any 8gb card is out of question nowadays imo

[@Nareimooncatt]

With that kind of power decrease and thermal efficiency, it would be really interesting to compare the overclock abilities between these two cards.

[@brettkoski]

I'm loving this Intel Battlemage release! I picked up an A770 Limited Edition at launch out of pure curiosity, and have really enjoyed tossing it back into my gaming system now and then to see the driver improvements. I hope to grab a B770 (or equivalent) Limited Edition next year (if the rumors of an announcement at CES next month are true). I hope to see more 3rd party vendors pick up these cards in the future!

[@DoneFeedingTheFox]

How was the noise levels on the different cards?

[@Kemulnitestryker]

Both my A380 and A750 are Sparkle cards and they both work fine. I did buy an ASRock A580 GPU that had compatibility issues with my ASRock PG Riptide motherboard. Sparkle makes a great product.

[@mike13foxtrot79]

I grabbed the TitanOC 3 fan Sparkle A750 for 189.00 at Microcenter earlier this years. It works just fine. A darker blue color with RGB light strip on the leading edge.

[@jttech44]

Looks like it's got some additional headroom left on the table. I'd also assume that because Intel's ABP's are pretty new to using intel's parts that they're not really able to bin them tight enough to offer factory OC's at launch.

[@Efreeti]

Thanks for talking about the third party cards. It's always very annoying to me to hear tech content creators say third party/"add-in" cards are rarely worth their price premium. Here in Norway, these Limited/Founders Edition first party cards are just never ever imported for sale. We CANNOT get them here. Also was this the first time you mentioned the B580's temperatures? That was something I was missing from the first video. Edit: At the moment, the only B580s available here in Norway, whatsoever, are the Sparkle Titan OC, the Asrock Challenger, and the Asrock Steel Legend.

[@JMSynthetics]

I would be interested to see the temp difference / long term performance between whatever Jay decided to repaste with and something along the line of KryoSheet and IC Diamond/Graphite Pad

[@Baybates]

The Amazon Canada link in the description takes you to the website, but I see no product. Did the card swap sellers?

[@user-suzie1818]

@Jayztwocents The term "OC" on Arc is a different concept from Nvidia or AMD counterparts. For example the Alchemist A770, it's the same as Battlemage B580 that all AIB OC variants have exactly the same performance out of the box as the intel LE reference model because all of them boost to and are capped at 2400MHz under load if you don't set a Performance Boost number in the Arc Control. The key difference is AIB OC models have better cooling for that Performance Boost headroom as well as higher Power Limit allowance for you to experiment with. I can run my Acer BiFrost A770 at 2750MHz boost clock at 252W, but this is not doable on an intel A770 LE. So, now while all B580 variants run at 2850MHz boost clock out of the box, if you want to benefit from your AIB OC model's beefy cooler, you have to tweak the OC settings in the control software. It's most likely that you will have more potential than the LE reference card.

[@Jimmy-6300]

Personally would have liked to see some OC'ing on these cards. Would have been cool to see how far you can push them both, and if the Sparkle card can go higher, maybe its binned or something. Would LOVE a classic Jay overclocking video for these!

[@agentcrm]

AIB cards are commonly the only option outside of the USA. I would spend the extra 20 for a quieter card, I use a solid side panel case so I do not care about appearance. Nvidi FE cards are barely available in Australia at launch, then rapidly disappear.

[@Jan_0922]

I was actually going to buy the limited but it sold out like 3 hours later when I went to check on it after school. I decided to get the Titan instead.

[@hey_how_are_ya]

@JayzTwoCents I bet if you weren't colorblind, blue would be your favorite color. You should get colorblind glasses to accommodate your specific color blindness and make a video of you reacting to everything blue.

[@avelord6135]

colorblind glasses are a scam

[@tapioorankiaalto2457]

"Unfortunately, there's no cure for color blindness right now. These special glasses can't give a colorblind person normal color vision, but they could help some colors look more vibrant or noticeable."

[@tapioorankiaalto2457]

My dad has the common red green colour blindness and I have some rarer type myself and you can't really correct it.

[@MagiconIce]

I'm curious though, he said, that the card looks like purple to him... but if he is blue colorblind, how can he see purple then? Shouldn't he instead see some weird red?

[@PsychoStreak]

I actually like the color scheme of the Sparkle card. Would be nice if they had a more compact version that was more Mini-ITX friendly. The board is so short they could totally do it without sacrificing too much in terms of temps.

[@ChrisakaPES]

This card was the last one at my Microcenter when I showed up today so I have a blue Team Blue card now lol.

[@Milennin]

Been trying out an A380 Sparkle Elf, 6 GB, and it's surprisingly decent IMO. Yeah, it's not going to perform well in anything newly released, but as an ultra budget card to play some older games (or newer games at low), it performs quite well. Ultra cool, quiet and efficient, I like it, lol.

[@admiraloz7668]

Like 15 years ago, my first gaming GPU was a sparkle. It was great, lasted for years.

[@parkerf9006]

Soooooo is there any ability to do a manual overclock? Perhaps get some additional value out of that larger cooler?

[@cyberwaste]

I'd be expecting performance improvements as drivers mature as well. I'm really keen to see them bring something more powerful to the table. Seeing intel shank nvidia closer to the top end would be such a satisfying thing.

[@Chris-yc3mm]

From memory, the A series custom cards could have custom firmware (for out of the box OCs etc.) that were lost if you used the intel drivers from the intel site (a lot of custom partners are either very slow or don't bother updating their drivers). Is that still an issue for the B series?

[@stealthnuke1]

Showing a thermal and noise chart would be great. Also does it OC?

[@ole7736]

Did you check that the Titan actually ran higher clocks? Sometimes these OC profiles have to be enabled manually. It's basically impossible for a card to run faster but not achieve higher performance. Unless it was running into some kind of limit. But power limit obviously was not reached. And voltage limit does not really make much sense to me.

[@NOOBIFIER1337]

Sparkle Edition HYPE! ❤

[@VoodooZ]

I'm curious to see how well the Titan would overclock though with that temperature headroom..

[@riccochet704]

Now I'm curious about overclocking on these cards and if the Sparkle has more headroom due to the better cooling.

[@quillannordstrom3758]

Have you considered making a video on Phantek's new EZ-Fit Watercooling kit?

[@cfq.tufanuf7601]

Jay, it would have been nice to see the 2 boards around the same way side by side to compare. You had the front of one and the back of another showing... Tut :)))

[@myonen4402]

I remember back when the LGA 2011 was in use you could purchase Intel reference Mobos and they don't sell them anymore. I'm actually kinda sure that they aren't planning on expanding beyond the initial reference version

[@aussiedigger1441]

The cost of electricity in Australia is getting out of control so i went the ASRock B580 12g. Great numbers for $$$

[@MrCmutschl]

Since there is a 10C and 20W difference, are you able to boost the clocks higher on the Sparkle card to a point where it makes it worth the extra $20 dollars? Might be worth the ability to overclock.

[@andrewlaidlaw7975]

Out of curiosity on Jawa is there an actual price difference for components with & without original box? From the sparkle card your basically paying a $20 premium for very little to no change in terms of performance

[@TheNiteNinja19]

Its a good choice once the first party cards dry up. And that blue is unique too. Great first look of an AIB.

[@RetroBerner]

What about overclocking headroom and reduced noise? Also, $20 isn't bad at all for a specific look, if it suits your style

[@familhagaudir8561]

Significantly less power draw for the exact same performance is weird.

[@uss-dh7909]

Same FPS for less demand on players hardware is weird too... It's almost like optimization does good things. 🤔 Probably would explain why we're still not getting most games, high to medium at 240FPS on average. Why bother with optimizing things when you can just tell the players to turn on nvidias fake frames?

[@jaw709]

Did you try with intel's "DLSS" alternative engaged? I saw an interview with the project lead and even if the game hasnt integrated yet, you might still get performance enhancement.. w/ diminishing quality returns ofc

[@DanielReyes-hz1qk]

Jay, I don't know if you noticed but I watched HU and der8auer reviews on the B580 and neither of them got the efficiency you did. Might be worth reaching out to them to figure out why

[@Jaksary]

I wonder if that sparkle card has some headroom when overclocking, might be a binned die and the cooling would suggest you can ramp up power budget to max and maybe even give it some extra voltage...

[@scubasteve5659]

im interested in what cpu to pair this with though obviously not a 14900k or something

[@WayStedYou]

13:38 the die is 272mm vs 294mm for a 4070ti so it's not exactly small. The 4060 is only 159mm on the same node.

[@DJgregBrown]

UK price is the same on both currently. £259 on Overclockers and they are about the only UK retail that has had their first stocks, once other get stock the price will go down more.

[@S1eeperServ1ce]

My Sparkle Arc 770 is well made. The standard cards were practically glued together. Is this still the case?

[@Entheo_Wolf]

Excited for this!

[@kevinnio]

Better tuned voltage/frequency curves could also explain same performance while drawing less power. This also means this card has more overclocking room than Intel's.

[@rainiergruber9022]

I think the color scheme is pretty neat. And the 20$ for the reduced temp and noise is imho definitely worth it.

[@davidmiller4594]

Best thing about the sparkle is, they'll be more B580 available. Even at $270, the B580 is still by far, the best bang for your buck on budget 1440 gaming.

[@_haru_na]

Can't wait for the Gunnir Flux and Photon cards, those look pretty sick too imho

[@br-fitness]

Most people aren’t buying AIB for much better performance unless its like a FTW 3 or strix but mainly it’s because the different designs and colours to match builds and better cooling performance

[@MegaStupidMonkeys]

Does the limited edition support 0 rpm mode (i.e. the fans stop completely when idling) ? If not then there's another reason to choose from a board partner.

[@fishdisc7022]

Make sure to test the EVGA card when it comes out. 😅

[@Michael-qz6cy]

Have seen the LE on newegg a few times today even saw the asrock become available once but no sparkle yet.

[@jimmyd8491]

Would look pretty cool in a blue themed build

[@dustincavanaugh5674]

The Maxsun B580 model with the two m.2 slots is a great implementation for utilizing the remaining 8 pcie lanes in a x16 slot in an ITX build. Other than that, no reason to pay above msrp.

[@kevinj24535]

However, this only works if the board supports this and there is a function for it in the BIOS. Otherwise it is not possible to use several different devices on one pcie connection. This actually comes from the server area.

[@soul27]

7148 Time Spy Extreme is graphics score or total score with cpu?

[@themc.kennyshow6585]

In the UK i still can't find the limited edition. But the Sparkle and asrock ones cost around £260-270. Still a god price in my eyes. £30-40 nore than the 7600, same price as the average 4060 and 3060. As an AMD fan - Good job Intel.

[@mysticknight487]

When are you going to OC the B580? Sparkle might have headroom?

[@raycw]

Small feedback for the chart (power consumption) at 08:48: I think you should use a different color, as Intel uses a similar color. The chart should be easily recognizable to be more informative. If someone screenshots it, the quality might degrade, making the chart confusing. (edit) I guess you wanted to focus on the Sparkle card as the main focus and group other data by GPU brand. However, I feel my feedback would be useful, even if it's not the most visually appealing.

[@DouglettDD]

I don’t mind the blue I think it could fit in some good builds. I do like the arc card sizes they seem just about right. If the next arc is similarly priced I’ll probably get one for my daily

[@Sponsi_PL]

I love the looks of it... beautiful.

[@zeekjones1]

I'll give Intel this, they are consistent so far. The classic silicon lottery usually shows differences even in the same model.

[@rasmusvedel]

Hey Jay, you have the A750 listed as "limted" and not "limited"

I love blue, I could buy it just for that XD But anyways if its cooler and quieter, quiet being super important to me, 20 USD more is worth it.

[@JDtheDJ2009]

If you were doing a Dallas Cowboys themed build, it might work. Otherwise, if you were needing to use these, it'd need to be a build that didn't have much of a theme and was more utilitarian. Which is okay. Especially for non-enthusiast builds.

[@lucasco031194]

It would probably go really well with those sonic themed motherboards and a white case.

[@mathijsraemaekers1359]

Where I live you would save around 50 Euros in a year with the custom card if it was running continuously. If you are gaming 10% of your time you would earn the 20 Euros back in 4 years (5 Euros per year). I guess that is not a bad deal.

[@DiLLY_V92]

Increase in temperature has a direct relation to increase in electrical current - this is due to a natural change in resistance based on temp. What this means is that the extra cooling is providing the same frequency and watts at a lower amperage resulting in a longer lasting PCB even if it is the exact same. There might not be a performance difference but I assure you there is a reliability difference Ps. Licensed electrician / hvac technician who happens to be a comp nerd lol