AIO vs Air Cooled Video Cards... worth the extra cost?

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[@seanthiar]

I choose the card that's in stock for a reasonable price.

[@DiscreetLuka]

Which is...?

[@HugeHole420]

My 1660 super was 500$

[@JettoDz]

funny way to spell Intel UHD 630

[@swirrllfolfsky9803]

So nothing? Because nothing is a reasonable price right now

[@Alex-jx4wf]

Thats how you are supposed to do

[@gauchplant]

Finds a screwdriver: "I like these screwdrivers." IFixIt: "Cheater!"

[@Blargington]

But don't worry you can fix that with IFixIt!

[@grimprime0158]

*traitor!

[@BrianBBBB]

@@Blargington *inserts 90s monster truck commercial*

[@Aqueous92]

iFixit: We're interrupting your lies-NO! We're interrupting this interruption with this interruption to tell you you're a cheater!"

[@RinnosukeETQW]

::explosion::

[@dantecoal7584]

I love that with all the growth in PCs, all the new tech, all the custom programs for measuring, modding, etc... MSI Afterburner is STILL something that practically everyone uses.

[@keithmarinier4651]

And it's still the only software they've made that actually work.

[@770hood]

So I have afterburner but I'm also curious on your opinion about Asus GPU tweak 2 and 3, and also EVGA precision X? Are they any good?

[@EskiZagra]

@@770hood dont bother with either; MSI afterburner is the best. The Asus one does not reaaaally control your GPU and cant do some of the more advanced things MSI can.,

[@mordorson]

Don't fix what isn't broken!

[@rewesh9614]

Water-cooled GPU= out of stock Air-cooled GPU= out of stock

[@arnox4554]

2021= out of stock

[@Brian-if5nd]

My life = out of stock

[@rewesh9614]

My cats 9 lives= out of stock

[@filipe5534]

Toilet paper early 2020 = out of stock

[@twilightravens9798]

2021 is basically r/Hmmm in a nutshell

[@khaychi]

4% more performance on my GPU. Best 300$ ever spent.

[@Mildly_Amused]

The difference in price between the AIO cooled and the air cooled cards withs some manufacturers is $50-$100. EVGA is only $50 more for the Hybrid AIO cooled 3000 series cards for example.

[@Cinnabuns2009]

@@Mildly_Amused When enough water evaporates out in a couple years that the card overheats is what I wait for. I have a sealed Open loop and it looses quite a bit of water to evap every year. Fans will last much longer. I guess you can always cut the loop and add a reservoir in a couple years though most people won't know that and their card will overheat and they'll blame someone other than themself.

[@generalyido]

Gottq get those juicy 3.5 frames my guy!

[@matthew4107]

@@Cinnabuns2009 where does the water evaporate out from that air tight sealed unit?

[@Cinnabuns2009]

@@matthew4107 Vinyl/Rubber tubes are semi-permeable and it just finds a way over time.

[@legendaryandrewsouth]

Hopefully you are feeling better Jay! Thanks for powering through and keeping the content flowing in quarantine!

[@Trillion_Dollar_Extreme]

Covid 19 must be very very weak

[@MemphisBelle291]

@@Trillion_Dollar_Extreme just for those who don't suffer a worse course than those who experience an easy course. He seemed to have experienced a moderate course, he´s no more spreading the Virus but still might have Symptoms

[@kaytrim]

Needs a tear-down to see where the cooling goes. Does it cover the VRMs or not?

[@JD96893]

Ya, I feel like Jay was kind of guessing here.

[@AtephiousCB]

its on the box with a "xray" style graphic. the question is is it telling the whole story though?

[@justsomeperson5110]

Well, based on the performance, I'm sure it must. It'd have crashed out a lot sooner if the VRMs weren't cooled. What I want to know is how much of that OC was due to the AIO cooling and how much was just due to a better binned chip. LOL Rip off the AIO, put on an air cooler, and try the same settings. (I'm sure Jay won't screw up a perfectly good card that way because he has common sense ... ish, but maybe Steve at GN will happily rip it a new one?)

[@xenonram]

@@justsomeperson5110 taking the cooler off won't screw it up.

[@freevbucks8019]

The VRMs get directly aircooled

[@PandaGin]

"Things you can't buy, I know" - JayzTwoCents Me - *Cries in saved up salary specifically for RTX 3000 series*

[@hellvengtfo]

Don't spend it yet. 40 series will come sooner than the 30 series stock

[@snowsanta7]

@@hellvengtfo oh please shut up for god's sake

[@PandaGin]

@@snowsanta7 I doubt we'd even have supply for the 40 series, lmao.

[@hellvengtfo]

@@snowsanta7 Excuse me? Lmao

[@eggshapedisraelioperative6317]

@@snowsanta7 t. hopeful 30xx scalper

[@rdicketts1]

I like the idea of an AIO cooled GPU, especially if there is a decent increase in performance and temps. I don't know if I'd be keen to spend the extra £200+ on it though, AIOs have a higher failure rate than air coolers, It's okay when it's a separate cooler for the CPU but when it's attached to the GPU you'd have to imagine it'd negatively impact resale value and the lifespan of the card

[@elijahm9935]

I had a zotac 1080 ti. It would hit 90c I used the NZXT G12. The AIO on a 240 MM RAD brought the temps as low as 58c under load. My 3080 triple fan XC3 runs around 74c under load.

[@dennisdelacruz9579]

@@elijahm9935 did the same on my founders edition 1080ti Besides the Temps, the noise level is nonexostant

[@BRAVOVII]

"Resale value"=im not gonna have sex with my wife to keep it tight for the next guy.

[@Henry14arsenal2007]

Just keep the original aircooler and swap it when the AIO craps out?

[@Digger-Nick]

@@Henry14arsenal2007 By "swap" you mean buy a completely new graphics card?

[@DanneJackie]

seeing this card sit at 50 degrees is incredible, mine is vibing at 70 most of the time

[@deanthebean4818]

Mine gets to 90 degrees :(

[@SerhiiYastrebov]

Yeah, Jay's tests were done on open case - that gives big advantage to air-cooled components. You might improve your situation with more case coolers that push hot air out or pull fresh air in.

[@SilverMiraii]

mine always goes to 84 in demanding games

[@ascap2854]

@@SilverMiraii same, I have a 3080ti that thermal throttles at 83c and drops to 1600mhz. I'm waiting for Alphacool to release their Eiswolf 2 for fe cards. Too much of a noob to attempt a custom loop.

[@V.Hazezz]

@@ascap2854 Undervolt your card. I have two underclocking profiles for mine (1860 @ 0.837 and 1935 @.900). The first one limits my temperatures to a worse-case of 73°C peak and the other one goes to 80°C. Right now, I'm more limited by power (only 400W ain't enough for more than 1950) than heat. Truly recommend to try it.

[@JLConawayII]

Gravy-cooling beats both. I'm guessing, I haven't actually tested this.

[@jazfromhouston]

You mean you haven't tasted it yet.

[@Captain_Jack514]

What about baked beans?

[@dominickniceswander4556]

Vodka cooling. Look it up

[@robertaries2974]

Real Brit. Can relate

[@The5thDudeson]

Gravy-cooling beats broth*

[@Flipsh0t]

Finally, a tasteless (and some say smell-less) JayzTwoCents video. Joking aside hope you feel better.

[@ssfdre38]

With that noise, how can he loose the sense of smell? (Just a joke)

[@neophobia404]

you do hear phil in bg (+ camera is moving around vs his "announcement"), so i'd think this video might be older in the giveaway bit he doesn't sound that stuffy anymore and i guess that's newer, so that might be good news all a big guess though anyway

[@GravyTheTurkey]

@@neophobia404 From his twitter yesterday - "Happy to report that I am 4 days past my CDC recommended quarantine from the onset of symptoms and will be returning to the studio tomorrow to get back to full time video making with the team! I’m back to feeling normal other than lost of taste / smell."

[@neophobia404]

@@GravyTheTurkey o nice

[@cunicelu]

@@Trillion_Dollar_Extreme yeah, I know somebody that died at 35 of Covid with no other diseases, but as you say. Also my uncle (who is around 75) has 3 friends who died of Covid.

[@AzarathAkthar]

Jay in setup reviews: skips a post because of LTT waterbottle Also Jay: Wears a LTX'19 shirt

[@Tobias94b]

true :'D

[@Skylancer727]

Better question, how good are AIO GPUs vs custom water blocks? Sounds more interesting to me as people buy AIOs as they already wanted water cooling but not the time effort.

[@Silentjackll]

AIOs with the proper setup (back plate, vrm heatsinks, ect..) are, in a lot of cases, better simply because of the price differences. In almost all situations, an AIO will cost you less then 1/4th the cost of a normal DIY loop setup. Just make sure you are using the proper rad for the video card you are trying to cool.

[@MostlyElectrolytes]

I've been doing AIO GPU's for the last few generations and love them. Did the 1080ti, 2080ti, and now a 6800XT. The thing is that I have a 280mm AIO for my CPU on the front of the case and then have the 280mm AIO for the GPU on the top of the case. This layout has worked fantastic for 3 revisions. I had an air cooled 6800XT and it had 3 fans....it ran a bit hotter than I am used to (Gaming X Trio) but it was a fast card (a bit noisier than I'm used to). The problem is that I didn't have enough exhaust so I moved the CPU AIO to the top....where it didn't want to fit very well...so my option was really to add more case fans which would make the whole system even noisier. The reality is that I wanted to go with an AIO from the beginning, got lucky and found "any" 6800XT (even if it was air-cooled) and got even luckier that I found a water cooled one and was able to sell the first card locally for what I paid for it (it was only 3 days old)....because I'm not a dirty scalper.

[@slacktose2905]

" I try not to shove things in holes too hard. " - JayzTwoCents

[@defnub]

Words to live by

[@stilldre7739]

phill was in the studio at the time. that is a bit concerning.

[@hardlyworgen71]

I wonder if Jay phrased it that way to get a reaction from Phil.

[@aditkantak3579]

*has m u l t i p l e kids"

[@cookiemonster-ky9ru]

@@user-op8fg3ny3j ?

[@That.guy0]

Me with intel integrated graphics: hmm interesting... Update: I Got a amd R5 240 graphics card on eBay for $15 for my new build with the 5600x

[@Ryan-xq3kl]

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[@chickensfloat7427]

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[@jebediahkerman4251]

Hey im not alone :D

[@thatsgottahurt]

You could get an AIO for your processor and technically say you have water cooled graphics.

[@JustAFan444]

Ouch

[@KrytopsyX]

TL DR : AIO on GPUs totally worth it ! I had the exact same concern as Jay had XD From my personnal experience, an AIO cooler could gives about 30C+ in temperature reduction when the GPU is at full load which is massive. With this efficiency to cool your GPU, you can either decrease your fans speed for a more silent system or overclock your GPU even more or a mix of both. I'm huge fan of EVGA air cooled and AIO cards.

[@Backyardwrenching1243]

I wish nzxt made their g12 for more cards :/

[@henrike9389]

At 150 to 200 bucks more, wouldn‘t you get better performance by upgrading to a better card? E.g. Pick a 3080 air cooled instead of a 3070Ti with AIO?

[@Backyardwrenching1243]

@@henrike9389 Yes, but in some cases, but a 3080 aio is still probably cheaper than a 80ti by a decent margin.

[@NZTechArc]

This testing should be done inside a case. majority of user have a case not a test bench. A case air temp can heat up from the GPU, and a rad sitting on the front getting access to a fresh air may perform even better.

[@DrTomWelsh]

In my experience yes. I have the NZXT adapter on a 1080 Ti and it's exquisite! Admittedly my stock cooler was a blower fan but the temps have dropped from over 80'C to 55'C. Plus it can run at 2000Mhz now as well.

[@Flameheadwilson]

I like that the AIO cards can be placed in an exhaust location, so most of the heat just goes out without changing the temp inside the case.

[@mikfhan]

Definitely can benefit small form factor cases, less heat buildup for the CPU so it can remain on air cooling. Usually the CPU will outlast 2-3 GPU generations so ease of maintenance is nice, then you just buy a new GPU when the AIO starts building up gunk and other problems - if it can last 3 years without issues of course - resale value is limited though. I'm still an air cooler at heart, but the AIO option for GPU lazyboys with enough money has some merit - but in this PC market, heck no.

[@IndeedIAm]

When I see him flopping around the whole AIO, I cringe. I know it's durable, but it's expensive AF and I'm a delicate person with my components.

[@tbuksuperfly]

@@mikeycrackson and broke a capacitor off unscrewing the pot :D

[@moriyokiri3229]

Thanks so much for sharing

[@dnakatomiuk]

Want to cringe more just go watch Linus at Linus Tech tips just search for Linus dropping things and you see how bad that guy is

[@gonnagohate3230]

@@dnakatomiuk I cringe so hard at people that doesn't know he's basically a meme and takes everything too seriously

[@brysonfrantz4740]

In most cases I would pick an air cooled gpu. I really like a simple appearance of my system and prefer the reliability of air cooling.

[@kulviks]

My 980ti was my first water-cooled gfx, with an aio, it was from EVGA and I mainly bought it, to get a more silent card, and it worked perfectly, my current 2080ti is fully water-cooled with an EK block, and is ofc also very quiet :D It's a bit overkill considering I don't really OC my card much, but I really just like my pc to be quiet without turning too hot and lowering performance

[@sanyey8405]

Short answer: yes, it s worth it! Lowers temps, extends lifetime, and makes it virtually silent compared to factory..

[@akiraic]

but what about lifetime of the pump tho

[@sanyey8405]

@@akiraic been using my cheapass 240 cooler master lite for like 4 years, running every single day for atleast 8 hours.. no issues yet.. Also had a second hand 980ti with an ancient Arctic Hybrid3 aio on it.. it was still working flawlessly when I sold it last year after 3 years of abuse. Im not afraid of aio-s anymore :D

[@akiraic]

@@sanyey8405 nice! Thanks for the details. Just bought my AIO 3080 and was wondering how long it would last.

[@Rspsand07]

@@kalreyan That's a question for your case. You can usually have 1 on top 1 in the front in the avg case

[@MrScottev]

I think a GPU with an AOI makes sense if you want to mount it vertically, when it could be very close to the side of the case, restricting air flow.

[@ralfiejr34]

I just got an Asus liquid cooled 6900 XT in the mail yesterday. My plan is a vertical mount. Problem is I can't find a Dark Hero mobo or a 5950x. It's gonna take all year to complete this build....smh

[@hitn-gaming]

@@ralfiejr34 See, I have a 5900x who wants to be paired with a newish graphics card :D

[@dragonoffski4501]

Hmmm - I see a new format where builders duke it out for the privilege of building a whole PC - each contestant has what the other needs to complete the build - it just needs a Cool name...PC Wars? Nah, too naff...Throning Gamers? Nah, too cheesy... Eat My Build? Nah, too obscure...Any takers?

[@polypolpol]

Camera is moving again! Are you guys clear now? Stay safe guys!

[@Krieg4Life]

I thought I was the only one to notice it XD

[@PantyGoblin]

Has to, you can see the date on the monitor was 2/22

[@Krieg4Life]

@@PantyGoblin Yea

[@ChrisWilliams-ur6sn]

I believe jay tweeted that he was cleared and was doing videos with the team again. Remember he said he was already like a week in when he posted the COVID video and that was probably not a same day video

[@impyworm115]

It was probably filmed before he found out he had the virus

[@pkyamaha17]

Everybody: Can't find any GPU anywhere. Jay: Here's the 18th 30 series card I got for free this week.

[@RaptorsEyeGaming]

LOL

[@WreckDiver99]

Need to put a set of fans "Oh lets see, should I use one of the 500 Lian Li's I have, or the Cooler masters, maybe Corsair...it's so hard to decide when I have more fans than Microcenter and Fry's combined"...#FirstWorldJayProblems

[@RobotischeHilfe]

You can if you pay the 2x price

[@pkyamaha17]

I actually ended up getting the gigabyte oc rtx 3060 for $479 at micro center.

[@RobotischeHilfe]

@@pkyamaha17 in Germany we don't have real pc parts offline shop with comparable prices to online. So nice that you got one

[@MartinStrazynski]

Hope you are feeling better overall. Best to you, the family and the team. Glad to see all y'all back in studio. Appreciate you guys.

[@gaber.5600]

I do have a concern over longevity being that these are new designs. I've heard of several AIO pumps failing so it's reasonable to wait for long term test results before jumping on board and trying to find one. Depending on the manufacturer and quality of the components, it may be a big gamble on an expensive card when air-cooled or custom loops are already tried and proven.

[@raawesome3851]

Honestly, the aio ones are going to be in stock, so I'll get those.

[@agostodandrea3589]

No they won’t. At least not in America

[@Kirinketsu_]

Based on their setup miners may prefer AIO cards seeing how they take up less slots meaning they can fit more on a board or a rack. The rads can easily be placed to the side or even sat on top of the GPUs, and if they have discounts on the tubes thats even better.

[@unixtool]

Where? Not in the u.s. but I’m hoping in a few years.....😔

[@mutasimrahman6833]

In general, there are fewer liquid-cooled GPUs made just because they're so expensive and it's for a very niche market.

[@matthiasrivers8321]

Looks soo sexy

[@BackBIast]

I was just looking into this! What kind of luck is this! Thanks Jay for keeping up with the videos. Hope you're feeling well.

[@ZeFatController]

Just wanted to let you know that this is the ONLY channel that has actually helped me when it comes to building and more importantly - buying. So much thought goes into your builds that it actually changed the way I did all my RGB. I wish I could do the things you do with computers, I have the passion but certainly not the monetary ability.

[@jacobmoran3102]

I really enjoyed the look of the camera behind the desk looking back at Jay and the back of the monitor as a change of lighting/background in the middle of the video. Quality content as usual!

[@AlexM-td3ro]

This review had me wondering why I wasn’t subscribed. Building my first pc rn and honestly can say I have learned a lot from you.

[@justsomeperson5110]

I think I want that ring to be red. Then I can name the card HAL and every time I try to overclock a step too far and it crashes, it can say, "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. You know what the problem is, just as well as I do."

[@asutoshvariar]

No, wait, what are you-

[@dragonoffski4501]

I wonder if you could get someone like Adam Savage to mod the shroud like one of HAL's cameras - that really would be cool :)

[@markkennedy451]

lol gold

[@whitenoise509]

We have all become very responsible consumers! Doing months of research before we buy our new video cards and amd CPUs. Pat on the back everyone, well done!

[@DailyCorvid]

Not through choice lol had there been open shops plus actual stock - hmmm who knows how responsible we would be :D

[@Ryan-xq3kl]

I stayed up every night and morning for a a week for a gpu drop and got one

[@DailyCorvid]

@@Ryan-xq3kl Good for you bro. I just clicked a couple of buttons on Amazon and waited lol but then again I got a 2 years old top range card, so that makes it mid to basic these days... Personally I didn't think this years newbie cards were that great, not worth the spend anyway - waiting for RDNA3

[@GameLeaderR]

When i bought my PC parts before they became rare I was just planning ahead of time. It totally wasn't me being incredibly reckless with my money in a sudden buying spree... Totally planned...

[@DailyCorvid]

@@GameLeaderR Mate life is too fucking short :) Bop it whilst ya got it!

[@shockracer]

I say they are worth it, I've been running an EVGA AIO on my MSI 980 TI for the last 5 years and my temps never have gone over 61°. Not only has it allowed me to me 250/250 overclocked for most of those years I also think it gives the card longevity as low temps is easier on electronics.

[@DJHeroMasta]

Yessir!

[@rex669]

I have EVGA 980 TI hydro and it's been working great for 5 years. Reapplied thermal paste and card runs 60c under full load and overclocked.

[@jeffreypeters8446]

So GLAD Phil is back - Miss his comments and laugh in the videos! Keep up the awesome work guys and Jay - I'm glad you are feeling better!!!

[@ConfusedRaccoon]

Seems like this one would absolutely love a few of those 40mm Noctua fans Dremeled into the shroud.

[@ellonysman]

I want nocturas

[@honggoo]

The AIO cooled GPU is definitely a plus for gaming. I usually found my 1070TI GPU is a lot noisier and hotter than my 2600X CPU when gaming. My only concern about AIO is leaking issue and lifespan of product.

[@bradmiles1984]

One way to get around that is get the nzxt mount where you can just mount 3rd party AIO to the card after breaking it down. The AIO goes you can swap for another.

[@JasperSkallow]

full coverage AIO are worth it, and in the Vega 64's case, they're paired with better binned GPU. But what really should be done is to cool the entire pc in a "chill-box".

[@usnaccountant]

I recently built a new PC and have seen some other videos you have that have led to top software to download after a build and what to do after a build but what I’m missing is a how to on running the various benchmarks as you do in this video as well as how to interpret the results. This would greatly help your viewers in establishing and understanding a baseline for their PC. Great content!

[@silasnailo9811]

I had wondered for years why my PC I built the GPU fans never spun up very fast. My GPU Temps were getting up to 70-80° C. Still within the thermal limits but still. After hearing what you said at the 12:30 mark I installed MSI afterburner and played some games, and the GPU didn't get past 60°C so far. Thank you for this important information Jay!!

[@Bendigo1]

I finally tried it too, it is crazy how much difference it makes!

[@user-jt3nf7in5w]

This is comical: do I want the not in stock or the notify me when available

[@Livingwithdirt]

As much as I love 3000 series, I wish the AMD 6000 series got more love and camera time.

[@RobBCactive]

Yeah, looking at his 3080 results, I am feeling very happy with my 6700xt ones, with CPU & GPU running at stock.

[@guycha0s380]

Hell no, that would raise the prices much more, let them stay underrated. We don't need tiktok f boys and douche tubers to raise prices. (j2centa isn't a douche 😉)

[@King_DarkSide]

Am I the only one wondering.... Jay, you feeling better? You have a camera man again, I'm hoping all test are negative and everyone has safely and fully recovered! 🙏

[@fred_derf]

Or Phil tested positive too…

[@Bratfalken]

My guess is that this was shot prior to him testing positive.

[@kevboard]

you guys should look at his twitter ;)

[@fred_derf]

@@kevboard I'd rathe remain ignorant.

[@Billybillybillyrocking]

@@fred_derf I respect this 😂😂

[@glasiore5484]

I'm happy to find every single question in my mind on this channel. Thanks JAyz... really.. thankks...

[@TacticalBeard]

I do love my AIO cards. My 1080ti and now 3090 hybrids from EVGA have been amazing. And yea it’s a very odd call for them to not have a blower on that card for the power delivery I know my EVGA cards do

[@asadianbelifont3875]

I entered the EVGA step up day of 3080 release. I'm still waiting after 5+ months. That's insane, anyone who signed up after the first day I don't think will literally get a card until after the 4xxx series releases lol, no joke

[@Jeshky2004]

isn't much you can do about a global silicon shortage though

[@riba2233]

@@Jeshky2004 No shortage for miners though

[@Jeshky2004]

@@riba2233 Cause Nvidia is deciding they want to make mining cards instead of more 3000 series to "decrease the number of 3000 series cards being used as mining cards". Linus made a video on it. I recommend watching if you haven't yet... it's kinda funny.

[@riba2233]

@@Jeshky2004 I know all about that, but even before that they were selling huge amounts of gpus directly to big miners. Silicon shortages are not the problem, big mining operations are.

[@Jeshky2004]

@@riba2233 That's why they should follow linus's suggestion if their announcement was supposed to be serious (which it obviously wasn't) and only sell the chip to people that actually have an interest in the cards for gaming

[@davidchillton1744]

Couldn’t tell yea, can’t even get my hands on a 20 series let alone a 30 series

[@sentiment3]

I know , i finally settled for a 10 series 2nd hand 1080 ti to replace my MSI Armor rx580 8gb(never an armor card again)

[@sciir8859]

isnt some of the 30 series cards cheaper than 20 series?

[@sneakyscratcher9446]

Funny thing is nvidia finna start back 20 series production,but not focus that manufacturing prowess on 30’s.....them cutthroat bastards

[@davidchillton1744]

@@sneakyscratcher9446 they’re starting production of 1050s again

[@sneakyscratcher9446]

@@davidchillton1744 damn that’s even worse...

[@piggradio1766]

Thank you for this review, it's exactly the topic I was interested in. Glad to see that you're feeling stronger and still have your sense of humor and passion for the reviews. COVID knew better than to mess with you, be well. :-)

[@aimeeharvey235]

Jay, you are sounding a lot better. Glad to see it and looking forward to you and your team getting back together again in the shop.

[@joggypaster8959]

it would be sick if someone spray painted the aio card with red and gold paint and put it in a tony stark themed build

[@joshconfer209]

Its hard to beat the look of the founders edition but this card looks great.

[@fliggopolis]

I love the FE I just wish it cooled the memory better.

[@arnox4554]

Are you kidding me? 1080 Ti FE was where it was at, even if it ran like crap, comparatively. :( Loved that shroud...

[@KRGraphicsCG]

It would go VERY well with my Noctua NH-U14S, and with the cooling would be perfect.

[@kiloneie]

Eh to me the reference/founder's edition looks like crap to me.

[@KRGraphicsCG]

@@kiloneie well, it's function over style. And I'm kinda feeling those passthrough coolers, especially in a really good airflow case.

[@catfish708]

I personally love my 120mm aio with the kraken g12 mounted on my 1080ti FE. My stock card was running 82c at full load. With the aio on runs at 55c at full load.

[@mur80mur]

I have a Corsair H55 on my gigabyte 1080 (non ti) and my temps climb up to 70+ C. Which cooler are you using???

[@catfish708]

@@mur80mur hmm that seems high. I just had a crappy asetek one.

[@mur80mur]

@@catfish708 Yea, I'm not really sure what to do. I had the radiator fan as an exhaust to start with and I changed it to an intake but temps don't seem to have changed. I was wondering if I should change the coolant since I don't know how old it is, I bought it 2nd hand.

[@Zerom4n]

1995 was the year when Finland won The World Ice Hockey Championships first time, never forget! 🇫🇮

[@FinneousPJ1]

T O R I L L E

[@danielbill1204]

Nice

[@aaronjohnson2547]

Definitely worth it. The thing about the NZXT bracket is I've gone through three video cards with that bracket it's more than paid for itself at this point so the cost is a null factor.

[@DJHeroMasta]

I bought a used MSI Gaming X GTX 1080 Ti on Ebay a few years back for $350 and slapped NXZT’s Kraken X61 ($70) on it. Best decision I ever made. My PC went from a hot to touch space heater to a cool (literally) light-show box 😙.

[@artisan002]

Heh. Every time I see the desktop image of the Thunderbolt II, I forget what I'm watching and just smile a little. Love that plane.

[@DailyCorvid]

*nods in agreement whilst watching the flyover :) Concorde is my other car!....lol

[@alt5494]

I like AIO cards, but would like to see them use full cover water blocks and thicker radiators.

[@The_Word_Is_The_Way]

Or hybrid set up. The VRAM is a crucial part that needs cooling either way.

[@ChrisWilliams-ur6sn]

Just letting everyone know jay tweeted that he was cleared of COVID and was going back to the studio with his staff. Probably will be taking extra precautions too.

[@hitn-gaming]

Why, oh why do I have that image inside my head where Jay and Phil wears HAZMAT suits and give each other bear hugs cause they missed each other?

[@JmSantos78]

Thanks! I don't use twitter, so that's info I wouldn't have known without you. Thanks again!

[@gl1tch_01]

One thing i would love to see tested, how they do in a case, more importantly one with bad airflow

[@itsruf1]

observation: @ 3:36 - "they got this channel along the side of the blade" The correct term is shroud. Fan shroud. An integral molded on shroud. That design is pulling more current due to the extra mass is my guess.

[@glovebox9000]

JayzTeoCents: “I try not to shove things in holes too hard.” Me: “tHaT’S whAt hE sAId!”

[@hughw.]

Fantastic Jay! Your still healthy! Right on! Excellent video..now I'm going to finish watching it.🏆

[@cementhead75]

After getting my first AIO GPU this generation I can honestly say I wish I had done it sooner.

[@cementhead75]

@@swizzler8053 I have the EVGA 3090 xc3 hybrid, picked it up when I had the chance to at msrp.

[@noipinus9392]

Could you tell the reason why you wish you did that sooner ? I am now searching the benefits of watercooling and don't know yet if they worth the noise. Thank you

[@cementhead75]

@@noipinus9392 better temps and the noise level is about the same if not lower. Admittedly the card did make a bit of a grinding sound when I first got it (due to trapped air), but after tipping my pc and running it on its side for about an hour it’s been whisper quiet since.

[@noipinus9392]

@@cementhead75 What waterblock do you use, if I'm not bothering you ? Thanks for the answer

[@cementhead75]

@@noipinus9392 I’m using the evga xc3 aio cooler, I can’t really justify the extra price for open loop cooling.

[@jeancoetzee2800]

The overwhelming majority of graphics cards have not been out of stock in my country since their launch. However, their retail prices are well in excess of the recommended.

[@Lixicious]

My main man Jay , you are too kind to announce as many times as you have about the give away ... Kudos to you and all the best to the rest of us :D

[@earl101788]

I’ve lost interest in tech news because nothing new is available. I’m not even in the market to buy this year and I still can’t get into it.

[@DailyCorvid]

Make a preorder, then you'll be really interested for the 18 months whilst you wait for it to arrive :D

[@chickensfloat7427]

No difference for me cause im broke af

[@DailyCorvid]

@@chickensfloat7427 awww best of luck the rest of the year bro! Why are you so broke if you don't mind me asking? I reckon you could scrap $230 for a basic GPU same as I did, tide you over until this ridiculous price-gouging is over! $230 RX5500XT bargain in stock now fyi plus all games at ultra detail 60/1080p 2.5 slot card runs on my 450W power supply sweet as a nut. I wanted a 6700XT but no stock .... So I thought i'll wait a year or two more. You should try it bro i'm telling you - budget GPU's are sweet as fuck

[@WreckDiver99]

Can't even get basic controllers. I bought one of those F-16 Flightsticks about 15 years ago for $29 or $39. I started playing Elite Dangerous (first game I've played in 15 years), and said "I really need a flight stick or something". All the reviews were "Get a freaking HOTAS"...nope, can't find one for under $1000 (for a $300 HOTAS). I'm using that 15+ year old flight stick just fine. OH, and that flight stick? Goes for $70 now...and they are hard to find. OMG this is crazy.

[@DailyCorvid]

@@WreckDiver99 Same dude!! I ordered a HOTAS thing off of Amazon from Korea since they had NONE anywhere else. three weeks later I get a refund, apparently no stock :/ So now I just use an old XBOX controller until I get one sorted! Elite Dangerous is cool, though I prefer either NMS for building and planet exploration, or Rogue Squadron for combat. ED needs a biiiiiig update for me, they've gone a wee bit on the stale side. Love that game though, great taste lol.

[@sussysalad]

Other people: omg my gpu temp got from 31C degrees to 32C, omg it’s burning. Meanwhile me with a gpu at 99C all the time: this is fine*

[@DantoG]

indeed, is fine, the gpu will shut down with no harm at all if its too hot

[@YouTubePseudonym]

@@DantoG that’s not fully true. Your GPU will degrade and shorten it’s lifespan if your temperatures are that high for daily use. What GPU do you have that can hit 99C? You must have a broken heat skin or water block, I’ve never seen a GPU run above 80C (on air), even when it pulls 500W.

[@YouTubePseudonym]

@@mattbvii change fan speed, thermal pads, liquid metal on core. You are NOT supposed to get above 70ish C for your GPU. If not, maybe mounting pressure issues, or RMA your card. It is NOT supposed to get that hot, at all.

[@veroxeon1858]

@@KZbinPseudonym he might be talking about junction temp which amd said is perfectly fine and expected even at 110*C the standard temp readings are almost never anywhere near that high

[@YouTubePseudonym]

@@veroxeon1858 junction temps, sure, but 99c is still not good.

[@sentiment3]

Nice to hear Phil laughing again in the background :D

[@Killer128_TF]

I do not overclock my video cards and since it is usually the component that gets upgraded last, I rather have them last as long as possible.

[@olandersnake]

I am running a NZXT Kraken 360mm aio on my EVGA 1080Ti FTW3. Temps top out at 32°C. Boosts up to 1980Mhz on its own. It can add 200Mhz in the NZXT software and haven't had crashes, but for more stability I only do a +100Mhz. I should point put that I am running in a Lian Li O11 Dynamic with this mounted on the side intake. Top has a 360mm aio on a 3950x and bottom has 3 x 120mm intake fans which 2 of them blow pretty much straight up at the card. Added my own heatsinks to all the memory chips, VRMs and mosfets. ICX shows below 30°C on all those components under load.

[@anime-connoisseur1877]

Can't wait to buy these in 2022.

[@alemanmx1980]

not sure if you're trying to farm upvotes or actually cant buy one. Just join a Discord Group with bots + youtube videos w/ sound alarm and get a 3080 RTX in the next week or so. Source: Me, 8+ bought.

[@anime-connoisseur1877]

@@alemanmx1980 been attempting to buy a Aorus RTX 3080 Xtreme since they released. I'm familiar with the "JuSt FoLlOw a StOcK TrAcKer" methodology. I was lucky enough 2 weeks ago to snatch up my 5900x, which only took close to 3 months. So I highly doubt that a stock Tracker is going to help increase my chances with finding one of the most desired cards to mine with currently

[@oujiafps7304]

@@alemanmx1980 i’ve been following discord serves like that and everything is sold out within milliseconds.

[@alemanmx1980]

@@oujiafps7304 Keep trying! Google further guides to beat the competition. If I was able to buy so many 3080's, so can you at least 1.

[@alemanmx1980]

@@anime-connoisseur1877 Mmm yeah no... on 3080s you will need to buy whatever comes in stock. The best 3080 that usually is being sold is the FTW3.

[@jkotka]

"one wire" literally 2 wires coming out of the fan case

[@leo72192]

1 argb and 1 pwm header

[@BlissBatch]

Maybe worth it if you love in a tropical climate with no AC-although, perhaps the better investment would be an AC. Definitely *not* worth it if you keep your GPUs for a long time. After 5 years, I'd be worried that the pump would fall at any moment (if it hadn't already).

[@TanguilleGrootaert]

I wouldn't been able to live anymore without my Corsair H55 with the NZXT G12 bracket anymore. I bought it because the stock cooler on my rx 580 armor was loud and bad at cooling but now even on my gtx 1080 zotac amp extreme it´s a big improvement in cooling and mainly sound

[@uss_04]

Thanks for revisiting AIO cooled cards. Been a long time since I felt they were visited

[@wimpyhugz_TGK]

Yay, Phil's back in the studio with him. Probably means his COVID infection's cleared up now?

[@GewoonEenNick]

or old footage?

[@GewoonEenNick]

@@dazza1240 i mean its jay.. he is kinda cool

[@trash3570]

Take the time to merge 2 fans together, still has 2 fan cables

[@ivanbrasla]

I hate merged fans, you can't use them in separate 120mm mountings. The best system is the lian-li, you can join or separate them as desired, and they actually reduce the number of cables needed, unlike this garbage

[@UnhingedSystems]

Curious to know how hot the fluid gets. Might be interesting to plumb in a temp sensor into the loop!

[@akiraic]

There is a thermodynamic's formula for that (that I don't remember), but in short, the liquid never gets hotter than the card, or colder than the room temperature

[@UnhingedSystems]

@@akiraic Indeed, but I'm still interested in the exact measurements when gaming/processing. As much as I loved Physics and Math and love cool formulas, I also like measurements 😉

[@UnhingedSystems]

@William Schlass Math and Physics happen to be two of my favorite things (after computers). If I ever came into large sums of money I would literally go study physics/robotics/mathematics for the next 10 years. Bring on the formulas! 🤯

[@Snoopi25]

Man, I remember my faithful EVGA GTX 570... thing clocked to 732Mhz iirc, and it was fantastic back in the day. Loud... very loud... and gamed at anywhere between 65C and 75C with a 1:1 fan to temp ratio... seeing 2,000MHz now is pretty insane.

[@addersforkaustria]

Jay looks and sounds a lot better already. Nice to see man!

[@thebelt24]

12:16 you do realize MSI Afterburner has a setting that lets you sync the AIO fan speed with your GPU temps right? I do this as someone with a CPU rad as an intake.

[@tclemens96]

I believe my motherboard has a gpu temp setting when setting up fan curves in bios

[@khairudinanshari5323]

where is it ?, currently installing Fancontrol to sync my fans with gpu temp

[@thebelt24]

@@khairudinanshari5323 Click the gear wheel to the left of the "Fan Speed (%)" slider

[@mihailm1076]

Damn I wish I had temps like that I’m on a GeForce mx150 +240 core clock and + 700 v ram clock

[@Gearbhall]

On today's episode of "Shit You Can't Buy" Jay takes a look at an out of stock GPU that allegedly comes with it's own water-cooling.

[@jordantangco9187]

Hope you are feeling better Jay!!

[@tonycstech]

Mosfets need more cooling then the GPU from what i observe. There are 2 temperature sensor on Nvidia cards (that i an aware of) One inside the GPU and one is called Hot Spot. Hot Spot is the one monitoring power rail temperatures which are according to what i see is 10 degrees hotter then the GPU. Not cooling those off will kill your card sooner then later.

[@aliffsuhaimi1466]

When air cooling card has reached 4 slots thick and over 2 kg in weight, then you know that AIO cooling is the way to go.

[@britishfirefly6523]

Imagine to cool this with a blower style cooler, it would sound like an air-raid siren

[@riba2233]

@@britishfirefly6523 there are 3090 blowers

[@justinnote3264]

Having 1 wire for 2 joined fans is convenient but having to replace 2 fans when 1 fails is more inconvenient.

[@vishnushankartripathi450]

That's why I like Lian li's uni-fans , they have both the advantage 😎

[@benpin9063]

Did anyone notice that jay body language and expression look so excited to be back recording with hjs team?

[@cao7064]

Thank you for provide this chance to actually get one of those card... Both Green or Red team will work just great for me.

[@DeejaySpandex]

Glad to hear you guys feeling good and that Phil is back in the office!

[@overyonderjustapiece]

How about manufacturers work on getting the original cards out to us instead of doing all the specialty crap!!

[@carbon_no6]

Stop crying!

[@bj4690]

"I try not to shove things in holes too hard. I don't wanna break things." - JayzTwoCentimetres

[@gypsyfreek]

What is a graphics card? Do they even exist? I think this is just a meme.....

[@Aleph-Noll]

the prophies the elders say that they will return one day

[@Jacen436987]

know what's double fake? australian gpus

[@vindeiatrix]

I've had a 1080TI Gigabyte Aorus AIO for like 3 years now. It's been super solid. I removed the hard drive cage and placed the AIO rad right up against the front case fans so the exhaust literally just exits the case immediately. HOWEVER, I mistakenly thought at the time of buying that it would be quieter than any air cooled card, and although it is very quiet, it's still the loudest thing in my case (BeQuiet case & PS with Noctua CPU cooler). What I hear are these high-pitched clicky-swuishy sounds , when you put your ear up close sounds like liquid moving. So, my next upgrade will probably be all air cooled so I can take advantage of silent modes for audio recording.

[@5bStix]

One thing that's important to note is how loud the pump is and whether or not the pump speed can be controlled. I had an EVGA 2080ti hybrid that was terribly loud and a DC pump. Though the performance was good, I would have elected for an air cooled card if I knew the hybrid sounded like a crappy fridge.