GDDR modules distribute most of their heat into the PCB itself through the copper traces. It would make the most sense to test backplate coolers by looking at VRAM temp, especially with additional thermal pads bridging backplate and PCB.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling, I have some old heat sinks and thermal pads that I'll attach at the back of PCB now.
@seeibe Жыл бұрын
Well, the amount of heat dissipated also depends on the thermal differential. When you go VRAM -> PCB -> thermal pads -> small backplate cooler, I suspect much less heat can be transferred than going VRAM -> thermal pads -> massive front cooler. So yeah, in theory more heat may be distributed into the PCB itself, in practice thanks to cooling I suspect more heat will be dissipated through the thermal pads on the front. But would be interesting to validate this.
@onlyeyeno Жыл бұрын
@@seeibe Yea, unless You have a 3090 which has half of it's VRAM on the back, in that case it just might ""work"". Then again if You have a 3090 I really don't think You should try to cool it by "strapping random scrap metal" onto it with with zip-ties :) Best regards.
@z33thr3311 ай бұрын
I set an old AM3 stock cooler on top of my 2080 TI with some thermal pads in addition to the normal cooling solution and got -6c average gains as shown in CPUID HWMONITOR without even replacing old pads yet. My solution, however, is the exact size of the hotspot on the backplate, not the size of half of the gpu like this thing in the video
@MrBalrogos8 ай бұрын
Yeah i got RX 6800 XT and i put thermal pads and cut plastic insulation from backplate and i use thermal pads on the side where vrm is :) and temps drops nicely
@falcie7743 Жыл бұрын
When I had a 3090 I did a DIY solution like this with a giant aluminum heatsink and an 80mm fan. It actually helped in my case, because I was thermal throttling due to memory temps, even after replacing thermal pads. At least I was able to keep the memory at about 95C instead of 112C.
@B0BBYGAMER Жыл бұрын
Yeah I did the same with pk3 95 to 75-80 and mine was on water 3090 backplate temps were no joke but mining was the reason lol
@BrunoVilela1 Жыл бұрын
@@B0BBYGAMER Not only minig, try to use it for IA training and render, memory will hit the same 110c :(
@hmmboost Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wish he would have tested with the 3080/3090 because the backplate really helps the mem temps on those cards.
@LordSaliss Жыл бұрын
Same. I watercooled the GPU and found that backside memory temps were keeping everything throttled so had to add cooling to the back. I got a replacement back plate (so I had a spare) with a pair of RAM waterblocks that I thermal epoxy'ed to the new backplate. The waterblocks on the back really helped cool the memory temps by keeping them 25-30 degrees cooler.
@gex581990 Жыл бұрын
My 3090 has 65c-70c mem temps and I even have the mem overclocked to 3090ti spec. I simply changed the pads to higher quality ones just a teeny bit thicker, put a Asus ROG 120mm fan (that has a amazing balance of airflow and pressure) onto the backplate pulling hot air out straight into my case’s rear exhaust fan. I was able to drop vram temps without even affecting the core temps negatively
@SmarterGaming Жыл бұрын
It would have been fun to see you rig a regular 120mm case fan blowing directly on the back plate, maybe with a 3d printed bracket or even just some rubber spacers and see how that would have worked compared to the Aliexpress versions.
@solenoidnull9542 Жыл бұрын
This is my system, and it's a massive improvement for me (over 10C drop)
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
@@solenoidnull9542 I don't for a second believe you dropped 10 degrees Celsius
@Walhor Жыл бұрын
That's what I did to my 3090. Bought a thermal pad and some alumium fins and slapped a 120 slim noctua fan ontop of it. about 10-12c in vram temps drop
@DoctorX17 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just adding extra airflow right on the backplate can make a big difference. It's all about moving cool air over it to get the heat out
@hardergamer Жыл бұрын
@@solenoidnull9542 Yep, I did the same, and now my gpu stays below 60c under full load.
@swagheel Жыл бұрын
Don't worry! I don't have a powerful GPU enough to need a backplate 😅
@First-Name_Last-Name Жыл бұрын
Ain't needing a backplate if my gaming PC's depends on the CPU integrated graphics All I need is a $2 shady Aliexpress CPU cooler that comes with a -chinese spyware- software for the cooler ARGB control
@sidewinder86ify Жыл бұрын
Backplate is 99% for the looks, also the card runs cooler without any backplate at all.
@Rayu25Demon Жыл бұрын
Don't worry i Don't have a gpu 🤣
@INFINITEShoobes Жыл бұрын
Relatable
@Romanianblackbirbrider Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@bfbunny Жыл бұрын
I think coolers like these are intended for use with cards like the rtx 3090 which have vram chips dissipating heat onto the backplate, but they are basically useless on other cards
@bleedsblue0023 Жыл бұрын
I did this for my 3080ti. Kritical thermal pads and added some heat sinks on top of the memory. Got my gaming mem temp down 5 to 10C.
@twood1130 Жыл бұрын
I used one on my 3090 and got far improved temps
@granolafunk6192 Жыл бұрын
@@bleedsblue0023 Same here. Easily my most regrettable purchase. Spent more money than my entire PC is worth and then had to rip the thing apart just to not throttle. I have been tempted to sell it but I worked so hard on it just to make it not throttle. And it still runs hot.
@markh-vy1sl Жыл бұрын
That's exactly was first thought. This is only for 3090. There is even a liquid cooled backplate cooler for 3090. The memory chips on the back were a huge problem for 3090 and they fixed it in 3090 Ti.
@bfbunny Жыл бұрын
@@bleedsblue0023 Well, yeah, a 3080ti can benefit from such a cooler, but people have been reporting drops of mem temp from 100+ degrees to a little above 80 with a 3090.
@skryzskruzzle Жыл бұрын
Attaching a heatsink to the backside of the PCB where my VRAM was allowed me to OC from +1000 to +1250 for benchmarking. Core temperature was still the same however, and once the heatsink at the back got heat saturated, +1250 would crash also.
@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
Damn you heat saturation, damn you!!!!!!!
@giaopx Жыл бұрын
can you just add a fan to it?
@skryzskruzzle Жыл бұрын
@@giaopx Yeah I could, but from the limited testing I did it would just extend the time that I was able to run +1250 OC on VRAM, but it would still become unstable after long enough.
@granolafunk6192 Жыл бұрын
I just rested a server CPU passive heatsink on the back of my 3080ti and got almost 5C off the memory temps. I was going to thermal paste it but ended up putting better thermal strips on it.
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
And this is why you don't waste money on silly solutions like that and instead just watercool when you want to push OC limits
@CossackHD Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see difference with just a 80mm fan placed on its side on top of the card, blowing along the backplate from power connectors in the direction of the IO plate. I'm pretty sure that would be about as good as the 50 EUR thing or perhaps better.
@SilkMilkJilk Жыл бұрын
Î would bet my money that your assumption is correct, the fan alone would be better^^
@teardowndan5364 Жыл бұрын
Do the same thing but after removing the backplate. My bet is that no backplate will perform slightly better since the bare PCB has more surface area since you have have all of the SMD perimeters that lose airflow when you slap a backplate on, SMDs sink most of their heat into the PCB and skips the thermal pad resistance.
@SlappySlapperman Жыл бұрын
Used to do that all the time, would put plastic motherboard standoff's in the screw holes and set it right above the back of the GPU..
@hectorj.romanp. Жыл бұрын
I don't know about a backplate but for an HDD it works pretty well; mine dropped from 50 C to 40 C moving it from the bottom of the case to a middle bay where it gets the air of the front fan of the case.
@mtx33 Жыл бұрын
@@teardowndan5364 Honestly I'm not sure about removing the backplate from gpu-s which using thermal pads between the board and backplate. The backplate functions as a heat spreader in those cases, without it you'll get bigger surface for sure, but you can get hotspots or even overheating chips (like vrm or memory).
@rata536 Жыл бұрын
That's the definition of Jank. Something I could see Linus and Alex doing, but definetly not something sold to public. Thank you for sharing these kind of (deservely) obscure products.
@c99kfm Жыл бұрын
This would have been a good use-case for the Maxsun MegaGamer which Gamer's Nexus did an episode on two weeks ago. Steve went a bit lyrical about how well it conducted heat to the back-plate, which should provide a "best-case scenario" for this type of cooling.
@MrUkkone Жыл бұрын
These could be interesting with rtx 3090 which has memory on backplate side and gets toasty.
@bgtubber Жыл бұрын
3090 Ti doesn't have memory on the back of the card.
@MrUkkone Жыл бұрын
@@bgtubber oh ye fixed it then.
@bgtubber Жыл бұрын
@@MrUkkone 👍
@Hoshino635 Жыл бұрын
true, those coolers are intended for rtx 3090, especially mining ones. gpu capped at 50% TDP and vram overclocked as high as possible. And they are not that expensive either. like the 2nd one is about 18 Euro in China
@Coloss03 Жыл бұрын
I got -10 degrees from mem temp on my 3090 during mining using the cooler #2.
@Kommunisator Жыл бұрын
This kind of cooling can lead to interesting problems. I built an ITX rig for a friend once where a 200mm top fan blew onto the back of the graphics card. The PC was always crashing when gaming, because the temp sensor of the GFX card was cooled too, and didn't spin up its fans. As a result, the GPU actually overheated, although the back of the card was cold to the touch ^^
@dumdum93 Жыл бұрын
You should've tested with a 3090 because that's the only card in need of backplate cooling.
@puciohenzap891 Жыл бұрын
The second cooler: - Mom, can we have a Thermalright cooler? - We have a Thermalright at home! - Thermalright at home:
@EvWvE_YT Жыл бұрын
The most import to know with this kind of active heatsink on the back plate are RAM and VRM Temp change.
@JJFX- Жыл бұрын
Definitely a creative way to add a fan for the memory. Wouldn't be my first choice but I'm not going judge.... I'm using a flexible arm DC fan that I got at FRYS 15 years ago bolted to a $500 mobo.
@themartinc123 Жыл бұрын
I think der8auer missed the mark on this one, a 400W GPU is going to hit the RAM and VRM much harder than the 270W class GPU
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
That's only applicable to cards that have those components on the back or have thermal paste which transfers the heat from them to the backplate.
@Revener666 Жыл бұрын
Just get a little bit more airflow in the case if you have issues........ Or if you are going to use zip tids anyway, do what I did in my spare computer to cool a part of the motherboard that got hot and rebooted me. Hang a fan with zip ties for directed airflow, it does alot. :)
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
I tried compressed air and it did wonders
@kennethmei Жыл бұрын
I used to use my 3090 for crypto mining when I was not using it. The back-mounted VRAM was constantly getting way too hot and it would hinder performance a lot and could not reach its normal hash rate. I installed a backplate cooling solution and it worked perfectly. In normal gaming applications though, it would have never gotten hot enough to warrant having a backplate cooler.
@rawdez_ Жыл бұрын
5:50 you can put top ziptie inside the finstack, on top of the fin closest to the card. also you can cut off excess termal pad, it'd look better-ish.
@wapted Жыл бұрын
On a multi RTX 3090 setup I used 1u Server vapour chamber heatsinks on the backplate. It really helped with the insane vram temperatures
@countfrackula6707 Жыл бұрын
I had a 3090 that I cooled with a backplate addon. It def helped the memory temps. I took a large heatsink and used thermal adhesive to stick it on, combined with some thermal compound. It def helps if you have memory under the backplate.
@AnIdiotAboard_ Жыл бұрын
Free tip when using zip ties to secure things down around square objects. Tennis Balls, Hollow Rubber Balls, and Ping Pong Balls. Cut them in half, in this case it would have been flat line down on backplate, and zip ties over the top, not only toes this allow for serious pressure to be applied, it also EVENLY pushes down into the backplate thanks to natures most stable of shapes. :)
@tobiasdubiak4747 Жыл бұрын
You should test mounting a fan directly on the backplate. I guess that would be more efficient. And you can use zip-ties to get the same professional look.
@cfodderferret Жыл бұрын
Clearly rubber bands are the preferred fan mounting solution. Must be for noise damping or something.
@aahlala Жыл бұрын
Could you test with a 3090? I'm wondering how effective it is on the memory temperatures.
@zalda_6086 Жыл бұрын
you could try this with a gpu that has memory on the back like the 3090
@tourmaline07 Жыл бұрын
I did wonder if a 3090 would have been a better card to test with because of the hot gddr6x VRAM being back-mounted. These products seem to be a response to that , and probably useless for anything else tbh. Gave me a good laugh. Surely having your backplate running hot is a good thing!? means it's dissipating heat I'd have thought.
@Anderson_LS Жыл бұрын
Agree, it's for RTX3090 and not for gamers but for miners. You can find many videos from them with these types of cooling backplates.
@LawrenceTimme Жыл бұрын
When you're mining on 3080 or 3090 these are the difference between stock memory throttle and running +1000 memory. Made a big difference to roi.
@reecebower9934 Жыл бұрын
Tbf you could have zip tied to the bottom fin. That way your not crushing the top fins.
@jakobbv1071 Жыл бұрын
Hey Roman, would you please take a look at the 7900xtx red Devil water block from EKWB? I got mine and am seeing some weird thermals after multiple remounts.
@cdburner5911 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I recall seeing a company (non-ali express, afaik) that sells a generic GPU backplate water block (looked it up, mp5works). It would be really interesting to see the actual wattage removed by measuring delta T and flow. Also, if there was any improvement by adding additional thermal pads behind the gpu die/vram.
@lrmcatspaw1 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong (or is not possible) but shouldn't you use the zip ties on the bottom copper layer? You know, the one that is touching the thermal pad. 5:40 That one is touching all the backplate so it would not bend and the zip ties should get more even pressure (assuming you can put the zip times between the copper plates. I cant see if that is possible). EDIT: I heard the price. Nevermind :D.
@kbsoundcollection Жыл бұрын
3090s have mem chips on the back side of the card, did you try with one of thesee?
@jesperdalsgaard5164 Жыл бұрын
Please test a 120mm fan blowing down on the backplate - i did the thermalpad mod on my reference 6900xt and did see 6c lower gpu temp
@XMoldyMe Жыл бұрын
If you don't have water cooling on the CPU, it will take more heat to the GPU
@bleedsblue0023 Жыл бұрын
What if you only add pads to the memory and the GPU doesn't touch the backplate
@jesperdalsgaard5164 Жыл бұрын
@@XMoldyMe that might be true - personally I have a AIO on the cpu
@dreyga2 Жыл бұрын
you need some holes for the fan to be effective. You want to blow away the heat trapped under the backplate, not to cool the backplate.
@XMoldyMe Жыл бұрын
@@dreyga2 Nope, heat is transferred to the backplate. That's the point, all you need is a fan to take the heat away. Sometimes it's there to help prevent the most extreme GPU sag and be more protected from dust and static.
@christopherjames9843 Жыл бұрын
der8auer, your English channel is going to overtake your German channel in view counts per video with way fewer subs. Interesting.
@surpriserom Жыл бұрын
I wonder if just having a Fan put near the back plate would have as much affect as those solution as the backplate is already a flat radiator, just add some airflow to help the performance should be enough. As you said, the water cooling is what will help with cooling and performance.
@robr640 Жыл бұрын
Yes it would, I got a 3090 & while the memory junction (the hottest module) never really got to dangerous temps there has been a few times I seen it top out around 98/99C (thermal throttling is supposed to start at 110C on GDDR6X modules). Which is a bit too close to the limit for my liking. I put a 120mm Noctua fan with some bumpers to hold it up off the backplate a little on it & have never seen above 92 on my mem junction temp since.
@Decenium Жыл бұрын
I would say just having a fan from the front blowing air over backplate would be plenty. Also yeah the tie rip stuff is painful...probably why they included thermal glue, and man if that second one was just done more professionally, it would actually be pretty cool imo
@KamilZGZ Жыл бұрын
RTX 3090 would be perfect to test it, because of double side GDDR6X memory and temperatures like 90 - 100c from the backplate side.
@maslascher Жыл бұрын
Would be a good idea to put something between zip ties and cooling solution on top of backplate. Should help significantly with mounting pressure and that is important when it comes to heat transfer.
@lflyr6287 Жыл бұрын
derBauer EN : I've mounted custom thermal pads on the back of my KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC 8GB, prior off course cutting out the plastic non-conductive cover from underneath the back plate to fit the thermal pads for the backside of the memory chips, backside of the GPU die itself and the backside of the VRM-s....and in my testing the GPU core temp fell 7-8°C, the VRM-s around 10°C and memory chips around 7°C. This model of mine actually has a good and very usable aluminium backplate that has a sign "caution hot" but is out of the box completely un-utilized. There are a few models out there since the GTX 900 series and R9 200 series that I've had the chance of modifying and helped with the temperatures quite a bit.
@PrimalRampageGaming Жыл бұрын
If youre placing VRMs on the back then yes you need a better cooling solution other than the thin metal plate. I tore down my 3090, repad/pasted everything and put additional aluminum heat sinks on the back plate. It dropped my temps by over 25*C.
@dreyga2 Жыл бұрын
why not remove the backplate and place them on the memory...then u get excellent temps on memory and gpu core because there is no trapped heat.
@dakula74 Жыл бұрын
why u not try 3090???
@RFLCTR Жыл бұрын
You should have used it on the 3090 to lower the memory chips temps on the back of the card.
@nevillecawood3727 Жыл бұрын
Heat from the core, VRMs, etc is in the PCB..: Getting it out (into the air eventually) using cheap thermal pads is a waste of time and money. Just point fans at the hotter areas of the bare PCB. ie: Go directly from PCB to air, skipping the delta T losses of pads and backplates etc. This got me up to the top frequency of one memory strap up on a R9 280X. Hypothosis: Heat from the core and VRMs etc was seeping INTO the RAM modules via their BGAs etc. Ameliorating such allowed the RAM OC quickly, cheaply and effectively and slightly cooled the core aswell.
@andreyvsjoker Жыл бұрын
I have put a 100mm fan on the backplate of my 3090 and it dropped Vram temperature during mining. It was thermal trotteling before and I was able to stabilise it. So it does help. For this reason I just left the fan there even after I stopped mining. Just a simple fan pulling away the air from the back plate helps a ton, and the fan is not even set at a high RPM
@paulschlacter4181 Жыл бұрын
10:40 Is the motherboard still receiving power when he's plugging back in the GPU? Looks like the RGB is still active, unless its some weird angular color changing illusion.
@HexerPsy Жыл бұрын
7:29 Its on 2222 GPU clock, where stock it was at 2175. I would expect the card to clock higher and have the same temps, if it worked at all...
@jcgongavoe337 Жыл бұрын
Please test them on a 3090 or rear mounted VRAM card
@jcgongavoe337 Жыл бұрын
Also aliexpress has better made coolers than these 2 shown in the video, but definitely more expensive
@XMoldyMe Жыл бұрын
There's no point. Even if you just put some thermo paste in there, it'll help + one 120 fan
@jcgongavoe337 Жыл бұрын
@@XMoldyMe Ok then, how about Dell Alienware's 3090 🤔
@granolafunk6192 Жыл бұрын
I swear nvidia either did this as planned obsolescence. Or they just don't care about the fact their cards throttle with the stock coolers, like an intel CPU.
@Ormmwar Жыл бұрын
Those are literally meant for the 3090, it's the only card that can use them.
@thomas77539000 Жыл бұрын
I think that thing was meant for the 3090 people in the cripto mining sphere were complaining about how the back memory chips had next to no way to dissipate the heat so people started adding things like that to bring down the temp even if it was only 5 or 6 degrees.
@EinSwitzer6 ай бұрын
Makes the whole gaming experience fast and smooth , if a hitch or stutter occurs it now self scans and comes up with a fix test or a replacement with its own catalog of software stencils
@Eazon_ Жыл бұрын
How about the more passive solutions? Like simple, big heatsinks ? Would probably get enough airflow from the case fans anyway, while having a lot more surface area than the backplate I'm seeing some for like 9€ and its also not as ugly
@fracturedlife1393 Жыл бұрын
I love stupid cooling "if you have any standards..." During the GPU Apocalypse daughter wanted a PC so she's running an old GTX980 with an AMD copper slug CPU COOLER strapped on. Sometimes standards got to drop LMAO. It's still running now, lifesaver at the the time.
@JJFX- Жыл бұрын
Recently I took apart an old PNY GTS 460 that was collecting dust. I realized the heatsink they used is just an old Intel CPU cooler that looks like it had the sides chopped off with an angle grinder so it fit under the shroud.
@johnwalshaw Жыл бұрын
I added a 100x40x20mm aluminum heat sink on the back of an Nvidia T1000, with 3mm thermal pad. The air flow is sealed with tape and a 40x40x28mm fan. Result is 10°C reduction in temps under load. What prompted me to do this was noticing the thermals creeping up as time passed and measured 75°C on the back of the card. All while maintaining the single slot tiny cooler on the other side. It's also a way to get heat away from the single slot DP plate where there's nowhere for the heat to exhaust. Things just were getting more and more heat soaked.
@soulshinobi Жыл бұрын
You need to also test overclocking because the back plate helps cool the VRM
@ViniV82 Жыл бұрын
You need to put the zip tie in the last space just abov the sheet that makes contact with the thermal pad and then backplate, not that it will change something but just for looks
@TommyApel Жыл бұрын
back in the days I used to just point a fan directly at the back of the card and that fixed the heat issue if any, in most cases there is just not a whole lot of airflow towards the back of a gpu in the first place so just adding some airflow pretty much solves the problem
@crisnmaryfam7344 Жыл бұрын
11:45 I wonder if the minor difference is the fan alone, or the heatsink at all.. Ive seen better results from people just pointing a fan directly at the backplate on one of those adjustable arms. Similar to a desk fan dealio.
@andreasvogler1875 Жыл бұрын
Instead of a custom water block, just get a Morpheus 8069. I was sceptical at first, especially after I unboxed it and saw, that it was smaller than the stock cooler, but after I installed it, I was blown away. The coretemp dropped by 18°C and it got a lot quieter.
@eternalbeing3339 Жыл бұрын
For $174? Lol no just buy a bykski waterblock for less than that. They work great, i have one on my 3090 ti 50c while gaming.
@andreasvogler1875 Жыл бұрын
@@eternalbeing3339 The price has dropped. At least in Germany und unless you already have a waterloop, it's not just the waterblock. You also need tubes, a pump, reservoir, fittings and a radiator. So all in all, you are looking at about double the price of the Morpheus.
@johntet Жыл бұрын
But why are you going with the worst case scenario of usage just to disregard these? Not that i would ever buy these , but if i had them on hand that's what i would additionally test out of curiosity : a)Memory temps on full back plate b)Gpus with cutout behind the chip maybe c)gpu's without backplate and while we are at it d)Proper , well-thought mounting
@OTechnology Жыл бұрын
Isn't this more useful for something like the 3090 with VRAM on the back and VRAM temperature sensors?
@fLaMePr0oF Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't expect this to affect the GPU temp, I don't think that's the point... Wouldn't a 5-8° reduction of the backplate be helping to reduce the temp of components that dissipate more heat into the PCB such as memory/VRMs/chokes?
@cskillers1 Жыл бұрын
kryonaut is the solution btw back in the days i've added ~92mm fan on an 9800 GT which had no backplate, simply placed the fan on top of it without any zipties but with 4 rubber thingies instead of screws and it actually saved the card from overheating on auto fan speed (it stopped doing purple screen which would lead to shutdown of the pc, such thing happened after the card reached mid 70c) , later on i learned how to manually raise up fan speed so tiny fan was no longer needed as the card was running at 100% fan speed all the time to avoid reaching 70c, even was able to flash the card to more than 9800 GTX+ performance thanks to extra volts so extra fans on top of the card can help, but perhaps only if without backplate
@LoTrusconi Жыл бұрын
You should test them on a 3090 FE while mining: stock 112° Repad 96° Repad+cpu cooler on it 90°
@tobiwonkanogy2975 Жыл бұрын
i could only see this working if it was a backplate replacement, taking an aluminum sheet , changing it for copper and adding fans should reduce board temps but it seems the transfer between materials with a backplate still in place isn't much better. 5-8 degrees C at best and only the outside most layer, not the PCB necessarily. slight worry to over compress the pads and short out components with copper plates though.
@MTBScotland Жыл бұрын
got good results using an old GPU heatsink attached to my watercooled card to reduce the memory temp for OCing. Backplate had thermal pads to the PCB and got quite hot.
@ouroborosbond7412 Жыл бұрын
Had me me in tears I can hear the disgust in your voice, excellent content!
@tonyferreira6792 Жыл бұрын
To be fair! I honestly really enjoyed the ""custom scrap diy"" look! Reminded me of han's millennium falcon
@Blablabla3945 Жыл бұрын
You could try to just lay down a 12cm fan on top of the back plate. Perhaps the airflow alone would help a few degrees.
@Bagel7723 Жыл бұрын
I do this with hard drives when using them outside a case. Old HGST drives can get burning hot without any cooling, but placing a small fan on the drive just to move a small bit of air makes a huge difference, as much as 20 or even 30 degrees.
@anthei6901 Жыл бұрын
I did use one arctic p12 pwm fan at max rpm on the backplate of my rog 3090. It lowered my vram temps to 84-86c on an ai gen load that pushed the memory around 88-90c. Not that effective but it helps.
@waynetuttle6872 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the thermal pad would yield better results between the card and the backplate on the first one.
@Maniachiy Жыл бұрын
active backplate required to 3090 mining, or any other high power with dual side vmem chips
@Maxa1 Жыл бұрын
I'm like 95% sure the AVC fan that came with the second heatsink is from an AMD CPU stock cooler circa 2005.
@tetsuclaw Жыл бұрын
I don't think I would have considered buying one of those backplate coolers in the first place. I tend to focus on more effective case airflow to make sure my GPU doesn't overheat and that has worked well for me so far.
@stefan7231 Жыл бұрын
Please do the same test but on a 3090 and check the memory temperatures.
@zbrkesbris5987 Жыл бұрын
But what if you cut out a hole in backplate (or make a custom one) for direct backside of PCB cooling with these solutions?
@akamikeym Жыл бұрын
I'm running a 7900 xtx under linux which currently means no fan control, and I'm having real issues with my backplate cooking my CPU. The default fan curves on my GPU never raise the fans above 70%. The CPU has a huge Be Quiet air cooler in there which seems to soak up the heat pumped out by the backplate next to it. Meaning that during stress tests of the CPU it bever goes above 70°C but when playing games that stress the GPU and barely use the CPU, the CPU temps are about 83°C almost the same as the GPU memory.
@longdang2681 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the second back plate cooler supposed to be mounted flipped 180 degrees so that the hot air is expelled out at the back?
@Teatime4Tom Жыл бұрын
You are a brave, brave man to even bring those things near your PC.
@Tanook Жыл бұрын
Does this dude really complained about thermpad being not strictly cut? Is he for real?
@nazgu1 Жыл бұрын
The second one reminds me about the series of passive VGA mosfet heatsinks from Thermalright for Radeon 3xxx/4xxx/5xxx series. Those were almost like pieces of art, I still have a bunch of them around just for their aesthetics.
@greenbow7888 Жыл бұрын
If there was a way to mount a fan pointing at the backplate, I bet that would reduce temps. Or even blue tac some fans onto the backplate.
@kyzh99610 Жыл бұрын
The 2 GPUZ readings of under load condition had a slight difference in GPU boost clock, the 2nd one is higher than the 1st run, which could result in higher temperature, so I do think to some extend, this thingy increased the thermal headroom for OC for a bit.
@Lishtenbird Жыл бұрын
If I'm ever paying 50€ for a GPU backplate, the least I'm expecting it to have is an RGB-empowered waifu.
@dreyga2 Жыл бұрын
2x hotter
@theguywithajeep Жыл бұрын
you installed the zip ties wrong at 6:00, they should go along the protruding edges of that copper cooler, that's why it has those edges sticking out.
@theguywithajeep Жыл бұрын
could also feed the zip tie in between the bottom copper layers like you did though the gpu cooler
@gamingevolved760 Жыл бұрын
Best option is undervolting card,than can get 10 degree cooler with 2% less fps
@sykoteddy9 ай бұрын
Damn, this is like a comedy episode. You obviously didn't do anything wrong or bad. I really salute you for buying and checking out these so called products. I know not everyone is as handy, but I would rather go and buy the copper sheets myself and do something with. Regarding the second product, I would so much rather have it unpainted than that shitty "paint job", it hurts even calling it a "paint job", heck, even a toddler would do it better. In my opinion copper is really awesome looking and I could really imagine having a complete water loop with only copper and brass parts. It would look sick as hell!
@Fractalbreakz Жыл бұрын
but is there thermal pads at the backplate of the gpu? if not is a usseles test...
@rod2508 Жыл бұрын
Its interesting that noone has just used the existing backplate (with screw holes pre-drilled) as a tempate for making a backplate heatsick? Like something you could literally swap out backplates for that uses thermal pads directly onto the pcb, does not have fins too close to the motherboard but has enough surface area for significant thermal dissipation and perhaps even a version for mounting 80mm slim fans onto. I used the arctic accelero extreme IV and it was an absolte beast for cooling. Was ugly AF but damn was it good for temps (passive temps too)
@vedo94x82 Жыл бұрын
Question? Isn't a hot backplate actually a good thing, that heat is being conducted/dissipated through backplate and its not trapped below plate.
@dreyga2 Жыл бұрын
No, your backplate is hot because the heat is trapped under it. The backplate cannot dissipate heat fast enough, so the card overheats. You are confusing the backplate with a heat sink. Heat sinks are very close to the part they want to cool and have very thin fins that help it to lose heat faster. The backplate is far away and has no fins.
@ricardolmendes Жыл бұрын
Why not a 3090 which is probably the card that would make more sense to this?
@iguanac6466 Жыл бұрын
On that first cooler, might have worked better if you ran the zip-ties just over the base of the cooler and the 1st fin and added a middle zip-tie. On the second solution, it looks like the fan is mounted in the wrong direction so it's fighting against the front fans instead of pulling fresh air over the heatsink.
@TheEightfoldPath_10 ай бұрын
Ive had issues with vram heat on my 3090 lately, evga 3090 with the hybrid kit. Memory temps hit 105. I simply placed a spare case fan on top of the backplate blowing down into the card and now it caps at 90 degrees and my gpu fans no longer go to 100% to bring it back down from boiling.
@PCgamestech Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure this was designed for a 3090 in mind not an AMD gpu. Because the 3090 got very on on its backplate because the Vram was there. Also my 3090 has so much sag now that it just get hot for everything so I had to change the mount to vertical to keep the pressure off the board.
@dodgydruid Жыл бұрын
I just took a chance on one of them RX580's off Aliexpress, with coupons etc came in at £45ish which I am going to be happy all day long if it runs OK and I know I have to thoroughly clean the thing up and new thermal pasta of course. I was tempted for a few pounds more grabbing a 590 but looking through the seller feedbacks it wasn't positive whereas the one I got my 580 from had all but one positives and the one not positive was a missing edge conn trace and the company sent him a replacement. I am working on building a killer water circuit for mine at the mo, my case is the enormous HAF XM which has room for top and rear rads and was thinking of going 2 rad, with the rear rad sitting between the GPU and CPU blocks and the top rad for max thermal exchanges. My last water build I used the Antec Skeleton which I had painted toxic green with red spatters, a twin circuit rig with one circuit for the gpu/ram/bridges etc and another for the CPU...
@subjektivegaming2 ай бұрын
I was having heating issues on my RX580 playing newer games, all I had do to was reduce some graphic quality options and it holds around 60 degrees. I was honestly contemplating some sort of extra cooling for my GPU but it's not worth it.
@reptilez13 Жыл бұрын
Hot backplate = dissipated heat. Solution: don't touch your backplate under full load. 😅 Edit: in all seriousness, i understand adding stuff especially for better GDDR6 temps etc but regular heat sinks or pad between the plate, direct airflow... So many simpler, cheaper and better looking solutions lol
@wagnonforcolorado Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your testing this stuff from Ali Express, so that a bunch of us do not make the mistake of sending our hard earned money away, and getting "recycled" e-waste in return.
@peyton_uwu Жыл бұрын
Maybe a solution like replacing the backplate with one that has machined fins on it that's cooled by the airflow from the front and rear fans, or even strapping a few fans to it. You could also replace the backplate with a heatsink, but at that point the added cost and weight just doesn't make sense compared to, like you said in the video, a GPU waterblock.
@Voyajer. Жыл бұрын
It's always a shame when an expensive GPU with a metal backplate doesn't even have thermal pads to make use of it. (looking at you Powercolor Red Devil 7900xtx)
@saturnv691 Жыл бұрын
I would be more interested to see if it has an effect on memory or vrm temps rather than gpu temps especially because some cards do have memory on the back of the pcb
@FOEChico2 ай бұрын
Adding a radiator on the hood because it will help heat soaking problem with my current setup. Great idea for my car, too
@uncleanon6445 Жыл бұрын
Why would you add this to the existing backplate and not instead of it???
@larsjrgensen5975 Жыл бұрын
From testing on my ASUS Vega 64, thermal pads from VRM to backplate only spread the heat 1 cm out into the back plate from where the thermal pad is located. So even though I connected the VRM to the backplate, the cooling surface was only the size of a DDR5 Memory stick, because the heat did not spread out into the entire backplate.
@dreyga2 Жыл бұрын
take your back plate and throw it in the trash where it belongs. Let the card breath.