Ultimate Gaming Monitor Guide: Find the BEST Screen for Your Setup

[@sleepy_dobe]

Other than the R rating for curved monitors that a lot of viewers have already commented, Jay also got the VESA mounting pattern incorrect. The more common ones are 100 x 100 and 75 x 75. There's no 80 x 80 pattern.

[@despairdx]

lmao was looking for that comment

[@leifgunnartoth8070]

Got that too. 100x100 would be the most common one, with 75x75 on a bit smaller displays. TVs will often go 200x200 or even bigger. My 75" Philips has a 600x400 VESA :)

[@johnscotlinksl]

Gonna have to start calling him Linus with this kind of misinformation lol

[@richardfarmer6570]

I was just looking at the number of 75x75mm VESA mount available on Newegg and it was a fairly significant number.

[@despairdx]

@@johnscotlinksl 💀

[@DjMessiahUK]

The lower the R, the more pronounced the curve, not the other way round @JayzTwoCents - 800R is a circle with a radius of 800 mm, which is a much more aggressive curve than say an 1800R curve

[@sincity_steve]

was going to say this exact same thing.

[@smashed_penguin]

+1

[@privador]

+1

[@andyid26]

^this!

[@docbrody]

+1,000

[@kakawtookie]

I think you may have made a mistake with the R rating. The higher the number the more gradual the curve. I believe the R refers to the Radius of the curvature.

[@Ty_7]

ya, the lower the number the more aggressive the curve is typically how i see it discussed. 800r being very curved on the lg oleds, while 1800r being a slight curve on the qd oleds by samsung. I currently have a 32 inch 1000r lg VA panel and a qd oled 34 qd oled 1800r. Easy thing to mixup imo as it does sound backwards initially, or was for me.

[@reitastatic3386]

Yes, the lower the number is, the harder curve.

[@Tyreinn]

Correct, the number is the radius in millimeters.

[@CSIG1001]

Uw is not real 4K, dell 32” OLED has cleaner txt than the 34” oled

[@Ty_7]

@@CSIG1001 ultrawide isn't 4k at all.... Odd comment as we weren't talking about that, but the degree of curve. Uktrawide is 1440p and soometimes 1600p from what I've seen.

[@OmegaBlack999]

You forgot to mention that VA panels also have much higher contrast ratios than IPS or TN. Though, clearly not as high as OLED. But still have great color. I actually went with a VA over IPS on my ultra wide for this very reason and was so glad I did. However, now I am using a 32" 4k OLED. Also, your curvature numbers are reversed, lol. Love you, Jay. Happy new year!

[@totalsubmition]

I have a Samsung NEO G8. It is a VA panel but with its micro led with local dimming it is almost OLED like without the risk of screen burn.

[@koky179]

Ha??? Every va panel i had even alienware has washed up colors,,ips way better color than any other until oled came.

[@OriginalMergatroid]

@@totalsubmition I have a Samsung CRG9 VA with quantum dots and local dimming. I also have a 49" MSI OLED. The VA doesn't even come close to the OLED. It's nice and bright, but the contrast is no where near the OLED.

[@OriginalMergatroid]

@@koky179 You must have had some pretty shitty monitors then. Every VA panel I have had, which include two 27", two 34" ultra wides and a 49" Samsung CRG9, have all had excellent colour and superior contrast to IPS. In fact, my roommate's PC is right beside me, and he has an IPS ultrawide (an LG), and the VA panels were every bit as good if not a little better for vibrant colours, and they had better contrast as well. Just google contract for IPS and VA. VA wins. I'm now using an OLED, and it blows his IPS away, but then it does the same thing to the Samsung CRG9 as well.

[@sebarodfle]

Yes VA has better contrast, but there is an issue with that. Due to the fact that they cannot dim and brighten as quickly as an OLED, an effect called smearing occurs. Objects with high contrast against their background leave a sort of trail similar to ghosting. You can notice this, for example, when looking at a fence or mesh on a game, or even your character's hair if it's black. As soon as you move the camera you'll notice it blurs because the pixels can't change their brightness fast enough. IPS does not have this issue and it's more likely to notice smearing than lack of contrast on a daily use for gaming (unless you really love horror games lol)

[@VaracolacidVesci]

The REAL problem is that most manufacters lie about the capabilities of the panels or at least "conveniently" hide the real way the specs are met

[@drkskwlkr]

"Most overlooked part ... is the monitor" This is *functionally* impossible.

[@its_neck]

idk, if it's not at eye level it's pretty easy to look over it. I'm constantly looking out my window cause mine is a little below eye level

[@junyaiwase]

Perhaps he meant the display/panel?

[@Embermist69]

Could be more overlooked in the upgrade process. For my understanding it’s more the GPU and CPU that is upgraded more than any other component. I think on average the monitor and case are the least upgrade parts. Power supply’s as well unless you need a bigger one for the upgrade. How I could be totally wrong, however I think I have at least part of it right.

[@bjarnis]

It's very over exaggerated what he is saying. As long as you have at least a 240Hz monitor you can make it look beautiful if you set it up right.

[@Cosmic.Origin.exe.]

I see what you did there. Clearly no one else did😉

[@VNAV_PTH]

Just remember, when the monitor resolution increases, so does the price for the graphics card required to run it 😊

[@ravenovatechnologies6554]

People need to realize this. Also, watch a blu ray in 1080p and tell me that resolution matters as much as you think it does.

[@Juso3D]

Unless you don't game on it.

[@Bobby_Rib]

Hey that's what I just did! New graphics card is arriving on Thursday 😂

[@novocainDaimon]

@@ravenovatechnologies6554 I do watch blu rays on my 10 yr old Samsung 55" 1080p tv and honestly? I couldnt care less about 4k resolution. Still looks awesome! But watching a blu ray on your pc monitor? Kinda wasted efforts...

[@novocainDaimon]

Yes and no: I'm gaming at 3440x1440 with my 3080 12G and DLSS keeps the fps in triple digits in all the games where fps matter. For everything else, I got crappy G-Sync ultimate which still doesnt wörk properly with multimonitor setup...

[@themightymutt5213]

This video was IMMENSELY educational for me, and it's perfect timing! I'm pre-building my new PC that will be purchased in the next few months, but I've been on the fence about replacing my monitor. It's not that I don't want to, but space is very limited and I already have a 24" that barely fits. I've determined that I can go up to 27" wide, and now I have a better idea of what to look for

[@zaalen97]

Happy New Year to everyone at JayzTwoCents!

[@georgestweeter]

Correction: the Lower the R number the greater the curve. The R number refers to the Radius of a circle in millimeters. A circle with a radius of 800mm is a much smaller circle than one with a radius of 2000mm, aka a tighter curve.

[@nisx2012]

A few weeks ago i bought an OLED screen and i cant imagine going back to IPS or VA. I did not expected a huge difference but having perfect black color is OOF, and on top of that watching stuff with HDR is the cherry on top. Bought Samsung G60SD

[@austinmatson7986]

nice! oled is definitely a game changer. i bought a aw3423dwf about a year ago and absolutely love it. glad you like your new monitor. it is for sure the most overlooked part of a setup, which i don't know how since you are always looking at it lol

[@novocainDaimon]

I would go for an OLED, but as long as burn-in still is a thing, or pixel-maintenance, I'll pass. Dont want my monitor to start maintenance while beeing in a multiplayer session. So I patiently wait...

[@thisusedtobemyrealname7876]

​@@novocainDaimon My Asus XG27AQDMG does pixel cleaning while my computer is sleeping or I can turn on a notification that reminds me to do it manually. I've had this monitor for a week and so far it has done pixel cleaning by itself 25 times (OSD keeps track of this) I did myself manually 2 times just for fun I guess. Not once has it stopped my gaming/content viewing to do pixel cleaning. What you are describing is a non issue at least with new OLED monitors.

[@novocainDaimon]

@@thisusedtobemyrealname7876 a non-issue that repeatedly was tested and confirmed to be an issue. I do play a lot of video games with static images (visual novels, turn based strategy) and do photography with lightroom. And saying that it is a non-issue after a week... well to put it mildly: add some 50 weeks and then we'll talk again. I wont buy a monitor just because it doesnt burn in after a week. Most burn-ins dont happen over night, let alone after a week. And while those can be easily reversed on regular TVs, it's a bit harder and more persistent problem in pc monitors. Rtings has an R&D youtube channel where they test long term pixel refresh for both TVs and monitors: watch?v=Fa7V_OOu6B8 But the main reason I dont use OLED for my pc monitor: VRR flicker. OLED panels have a serious problem with that and it's absolutely stressful for the eyes, at least for me who has to wear glasses.

[@olloi91]

Really? I got an oled myself but for me it was too bright and colorful. I know that sounds weird

[@DjMessiahUK]

Always check decent reviews - just because a monitor claims to have a 1ms response time, that's always based on a ridiculously specific single transition that can achieve this and often involves high levels of overdrive that cause overshoot. In my testing experience, IPS displays tend to be anywhere between 7 and 25 ms depending on the quality of the panel. The best are generally around the 7 to 12 ms range if you average across all transitions. You can't trust the manufacturers on this, as much like HDR 400 technically being HDR, in practice it is just so they can tick a box on their spec sheets.

[@junyaiwase]

Unless it’s an oled, which are basically all maxxed at 0.03ms

[@stealthhunter6998]

Watching hardware/monitors unboxed has made me realise how inaccurate so much of the stuff said in this video is. He has 0 idea about monitors clearly.

[@kokichat]

@@junyaiwase Only OLED panels can go below 1ms. You have fallen for the marketing. Most of the LED monitors max out at 3-5ms.

[@joshcarlson9352]

Jay, you skipped over that USB-C connection there. I think one of the coolest new features is that thunderbolt connection for us semi-remote workers. Turns your monitor into a docking station for your work laptop alongside your home PC!

[@jose10900]

Yes! This is huge for partial remote work. I held out forever on getting an ultrawide because they were missing USB-C upstream. LG finally updated their 39” OLED UW this year with USB-C and I took the plunge.

[@Dryloch]

​@jose10900 I live my 45 inch LG because of the USB C picture by picture mode and built in kvm.

[@joshcarlson9352]

Acer's software needs work, but the feature is there.

[@marioinacio9274]

the kvm switch has been in monitors for over 15 years usb c just came in when thunderbolt hit tier three.

[@ielish5536]

USB c upstream was a game changer for my home office set up!! And tbh since I don't play games that require high input rates from keyboard and mouse, if there is any addition lag from having the kvm in the screen I never notice it!

[@BamaFet]

OLED has a been a game changer! I bought the Asus 1440p 480hz and don’t regret it one bit! Mostly play tactical shooters and can achieve those frames most of the time, almost time to upgrade from my 3080 10gb.

[@hypnotiq]

same, got a 240hz 1440p one on a crazy black friday deal & been playing elden ring recently, it's night & day I don't think ill ever be able to use a non oled monitor again.

[@ReynaMirez]

man, i really wish he talked about burn-in, cuz I'm really confused about which type of display is least susceptible to it happening.

[@joniqst]

Don't stress too much about burn in, new panels have settings in place to mitigate that... Just enjoy

[@ReynaMirez]

@@joniqst So there's no difference between getting an LED vs OLED? I've had my current LED monitor for about 4 years and I 2 years ago noticed burn-in from the taskbar, which has only gotten worse.

[@joniqst]

@ReynaMirez do your research for sure but definitely really hard to burn in these days with newer OLED tech

[@anonhiki]

pg32ucdm has oled care and 3 year burn in warranty

[@Frankenburger]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="189">3:09</a> it's also important to note that the response times for VA panels are significantly slower than IPS, leading to noticeable ghosting most of the time

[@rayz5508]

Bought a LG C4: 42" OLED and never looked back. Great PC 144hz VRR monitor.

[@chillnspace777]

What settings do u use on the tv? PC mode? I have a c1 and when I move I will arrange it as a pc monitor

[@bah_acc_prem]

My man, best decision i made was getting the C4 42"; this was coming from first gen OLED alienware 32" monitor.

[@Flex_Mayo]

The LG OLED 4k tv/gaming monitors are amazing!

[@Michael-Gill]

Same. Got an LG C3 on sale when the C4 was released. Got a 4080S as well, all for the price of a 4090. Extremely happy with the setup.

[@askalds]

Bought the LG C2 about 2 years ago and it's been amazing even though its only 120hz. Might go for a C4 next.

[@jonathanryan9946]

My dream/rough game plan right now, I'd to get the 5090 I saved up for. Them get a display port 2.1 oled at either 1040p and some insanely high refresh rate on a dp 2.1 monitor or a 4k oled with dp 2.1 and lower but still high refresh rate. Which one I get will be based on reviews of the 5090s fps achievable fps in games benchmark. But yes, i do want a display port 2.1 on both my gpu and monitor. Right now I just upgraded to the 9800x3d. Then the old Titan v, and 27" ips

[@pcgamerzzzchannel3407]

Get the aorus fo32u2p you wont be dissapointed

[@Jefferson-kd6it]

During black friday there were some crazy deals. Also one thing i want to tell everyone thats on the market for OLED monitors is becareful . I have owned a QD oled and now a W oled . the QD OLED i owned it for exactly 2 years , and was getting constant headaches, sinuses , and abnormal eye fatigue even at low brightness . the W oled i now own it for almost 2 months and W OLED is much less intensive to the eyes and no longer have the headaches . if you are eye sensitive or suffer from allergies please get the W-OLED . The W oled uses white light instead of BLUE to light the pixels , the blue is very harsh on the eyes and my eyes do not like it.

[@theCrimsonCollects]

Very helpful. Didn’t know this was a thing. Thank you.

[@Cognitoman]

Thanks bro I do have sensitive eyes. Good to know

[@David-ln8qh]

I wish there was more info on this out there, I hear it often enough to have steered me towards WOLED. Would love to know how common that is and how likely it'd be an issue for you without buying/returning a monitor.

[@simonpeneau7802]

"suffer from allergies please get the W-OLED" tell me you don't know anything about biology without telling me you don't know anything about biology.

[@Jefferson-kd6it]

@@simonpeneau7802 allergies clog your nostrils can produce sinuses . Also heavy eye strain I’m not a doctor but there’s a lot of information about this online you can do your own research

[@goobanet]

Another great video, thanks Jay. Somebody forgot to remind you to talk about HDR. It's hard to get good staff these days, I know😂. I do very little gaming, mostly creative stuff, so I have a preference for a colour accurate monitor with plenty of ports and a pair of built in speakers. 4K at 27" or 32" is the sweet spot for me.

[@WoodrowWoods2007]

Its funny you say that the Monitor is the most overlooked part of a system. For me, its the first thing I decide on as its potential is what drives me to spec out my system the way I need. I’m looking into the Dell G3223Q for me next. Whats the use on building a system that can play CSGO at 250fps when all you have is a 60Hz screen. LOL

[@Ferrari255GTO]

While your order of thought makes sense, it requires to have the budget to do it all straight forward, however people want a fast computer first and good peripherals second, so they will cut down on the keyboard, mouse and monitor to get a better tower and upgrade slowly overtime. When i bought my monitor i had a singular thing in mind; 32 inch panel, i was using a old burnt asf TV before that and ANYTHING would've improved the experience with 1080p. Now i'm a bit unhappy about colour balance and other stuff but i can use it just fine, and aince then i have FULLY rebuilt my tower from an i5 4th gen and a clapped out RX580 that was super unstable, 8gb of RAM and 1tb hdd, to 1tb ssd and 500gb NVME, Ryzen 5 5600 and a 2080 16 gb RAM. I also have a FAR better mouse (logitech G32 hero i think?) and a FAR better keyboard (8bitdo retro thingy with the NES theme)

[@gasracing5000]

matching your monitor to your pc spec (and vice versa) is the most common mistake "regular" people make. best advice, match your PC build to your monitor performance. you would be amazed at how many people are running 4k screens on mini PCs with no gpu, or people with decent gpus running 1080p 60fps screens with atrocious pixle refresh rates and color profiles.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

@@gasracing5000 it depends on the usecase or preference, you can still get more of a 1080P monitor by upscaling to 1440, and running heavy enough games they may still use a good chunk of their performance. It also depends on what your definition of decent is, because i think that my 2080 is fine and it's sub-par for 1440 from what i've tested thus far

[@gasracing5000]

@Ferrari255GTO Super sampling and upscaling is a dark route to go down... but if you must, using a 1440p monitor with good response times and color profile at 1080p is a much better experience to running a outdated 1080p screen. A decent 24" 1440p screen rendering at 1080p with a 2ft view distance actually looks great. Definition of decent? around 100ppi, sub 10ms refresh times, and over 90% of the dcip color gambit.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

@@gasracing5000 when i said decent i meant you talking about GPUs. Either way, at least in FH5 and Beamng, i feel a genuinely great boost in sharpness when upscaling. I never ran CS2 at 1080 since it's a very light title and i wouldn't know if there's a real difference there. Don't have a clue about my monitor's specs, all i know is that i can overclock it to 70hz if i want but i just don't bother even if it's nice to have that extra when it's usable. It's a 32"HP monitor i bought used for 160 with 200 hours of use

[@packetcreeper]

Glad you did this video as a lot of gamers overlook the monitor as an extremely important component. I found my perfect monitor a while back and continue loving it every day - LG Ultragear 34" curved 34GP83A-B, Nano IPS 1ms, G-SYNC and FreeSync, 144Hz (160Hz OC). Paired with the proper icc profile and proper physical settings this is very hard to beat.

[@my_name_is_jeph.2020]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="615">10:15</a> - wrong, the lower the number the more aggressive.. 1000R > 1500R

[@abidlack1980]

When i built my current computer back in 2019, i spent hours upon hours figuring out how i wanted to build it. One of the biggest issues was the monitor. The lack of visual inspection made it more difficult to decide. I looked at various brands, which all sounded good, including some of the ASUS and LG offerings and maybe a couple other brands. After a grueling internal debate, i went with the ViewSonic Elite XG270QG 27" which was reviewed by multiple youtubers, you included, and I've not been disappointed.

[@somebodysomeone23]

Given the number factual errors made in this video and the fact that most content on this channel is aimed at the audience newer to or less informed in the PC space, I think this video needs to be taken down , and reshot or re-edited before being reuploaded again.

[@toddb4299]

I think this is an over reaction, a few simple mistakes that are easily corrected with minimal research, in comparison to a lot of good info. Plus this is just a KZbinr trying to give an entertaining video to y'all. Chill out, it's not a big deal.

[@ADepressedGuy-l1p]

​@@toddb4299not entertaining. It's just a person talking and explaining things in a simple way. Definitely meant to be informative rather than entertaining. I was gonna share this video till I saw the comments pointing out the errors. A lot of normal people can't do research for various reasons, cause they have their own work, or they are not tech savvy or from a non tech background, and then they will see this video and learn incorrect things (since things are explained in an easy manner here)

[@toddb4299]

@@ADepressedGuy-l1p I like Jay because his videos are entertaining. Jay isn't a scientist or an engineer. I believe these videos are in fact meant to be entertaining, as well as informative. I think he could correct these mistakes, although I don't even see the point of that since there are dozens of comments pointing them out. I still believe that scrapping this whole video is an over reaction.

[@ADepressedGuy-l1p]

@@toddb4299 yeah maybe scrapping the whole video is too much Editing it would be great though

[@Mavis847]

Nah.

[@Frankenburger]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="482">8:02</a> It's also important to know that the advertised response time is the fastest the panel can achieve during optimal conditions. The average response time is usually significantly slower than the advertised response time. For example, many VA panels with an advertised 4ms response time GTG will often average 11ms, or worse.

[@HexParte]

I love watching the stevification of your channel. I love the script sitting out, and I love the way you have tweaked presenting the product. I love that it is a more niche topic, but it still feels like you. Even if the delivery is a little more serious, it doesn't feel like you wrote an article and put it in a video. Don't get me wrong, I love that GN does that, but it makes the videos "crunchy" as my former Micro Center boss puts it, which is less approachable for some people, and it sometimes often on information your average consumer doesn't understand - nor do they want to. And that's not a bad thing, I've watched both of you pretty consistently. You feel just as concise, but with less of an info-dump. And it's always felt like that. Which is obviously what you strive for. It is why I have stuck around for the last couple of years, and why other Micro Center guys watch you. I am excited for the "accuracy" of information in your reviews to come (i.e. replicability, notes writing, etc.). But I miss the dad jokes from this video, which probably would be out of place, but I don't doubt that you will still be doing that in other videos. On the actual topic of the video, I feel (have not confirmed it) that a lot of the panels are manufactured in the same place, a lot like how Seasonic manufactures most PSU's. I noticed while selling them that MSI panels seemed to be exactly like AOC panels, but dimmer with RGB and typically a $10-$50 hike in price. This tended to seem to be the case for a lot of VA panels (sans price hike and RGB). A lot of the cheaper IPS panels I have been told are LG panels with a different name. But there is more variation there, like different processors and stripping away all the useful features besides Hz, IPS, and a semi-bright screen. But I typically noticed these . . . issues . . . with the less reputable brands. So for me, I always relied on the advice of my coworkers because we had used all the products in the store. RTings also has a very strong testing methodology for monitors and TVs, especially for burn-in, if there isn't somebody who has used it.

[@thisismelsemail1217]

The only thing I noticed that was missed in the video is QD-OLED panels. Since those are the best of the best right now I feel like they should have at least been mentioned and a lamens explanation as to what the QD stands for and why it's super important for OLED panels

[@B00jums]

Really liked the high level overview and I thought your specs list at the end was on point. I will recommend this video to non tech savvy people that just want to know a little about monitors before buying one.

[@Gamejone_123]

Can confirm this, Jay's content quality has improved quite a bit. Keep it going man!

[@karstenswiridjuk4747]

Can we start including how products like this are for other use cases besides just gaming? Most people are using their one PC for everything, streaming, editing, general work etc etc

[@Shadowfeaux]

Unless you’re doing something art related then most of this info doesn’t matter. Someone using excel isn’t going to really care about crazy refresh rates. Lol

[@Davivd2]

It's kind of unnecessary. If your PC monitor can handle gaming, it can handle anything. Streaming or movies can be handled by anything these days. Editing, you want a gaming monitor. So basically, if you are not looking for gaming info, you can buy what you can afford and it will watch KZbin videos and live streams without any problems.

[@glebglub]

you forgot to mentiom Vertical Banding for OLED - once you crank down the brightness to prolong its life and fire up a dark or non-SDR game, it can look like your screen is made of cloth. a lot better than a blur of gray from a backlight, but still highly noticeable. nobody ever mentions this for some reason, they just say "it look good in dark scenes" without mentioning it (which makes me think they never even bothered to check). I can even notice it in world of warcraft in say eastern plaguelands or blackrock mountain, nevermind resident evil

[@s.slayer0124]

Monitors are pain in the ass to figure out or find one suitable for your budget

[@maxwellgriffith]

Monitors Unboxed is your friend here

[@kiphenry88]

100% agree monitors unboxed is great

[@maxwellgriffith]

@@s.slayer0124 they just released a roundup video of all the monitors they reviewed this year

[@s.slayer0124]

@@maxwellgriffith hmmm imma check em out, honestly part of the issue is availability of certain monitors, sometimes they're out of stock it's sad

[@Drocinit247]

Waiting to see if I am buying a new gen oled or this past year. Looking at the fo32u2p if nothing crazy comes out at CES

[@therealpureessence2437]

Exact same situation. Got it at my house just waiting to see if I’ll return it. If the 5k 2k comes out Q1 I’ll get that.

[@latro666]

Get your eyes tested, single best value for money pc upgrade i did. Even if you have a ultra mild prescription buy some cheap glasses for your prescription. Was like my pc doubled in hd.

[@Dzugashvili]

Get some bias lighting if you want lights on the back of your panel, helps even out blacks for most panels and makes everything in general easier to look at

[@NashBen]

I just upgrated to a 27" QD OLED panel and I love it. The color, the clarity, the contrast (the blacks!) and the viewing angle are so superior to my other monitors (IPS). It was definitely a great upgrade!

[@timothymclain]

Same here! OLED paired with 3090 for 1440p gaming at 144Hz FTW.

[@bradjohnson15]

Great info, i've been looking to upgrade because i'm currently gaming on an etch-a-sketch

[@petero7130]

Tee hee 😜 nice one (and the award for wittiest comment goes to...)

[@it-s-me-mohit]

Great video. Need some more info on QD-OLED's as well

[@Skylancer727]

Eh, he kinda got VA completely wrong. VA don't inherently have lower color volume than IPS. In fact most TVs today are VA because they're generally more accurate for HDR as VA have better contrast. LG is one of the only main brands still using IPS for their flagships and shows from their lower quality blacks. The real reasons VA are less common on monitors is because VAs tend to have slower response times. There are 240hz VA panels but they're extremely rare. VAs also have an issue known as shadow casting where similar to inverse ghosting leaves a shadow in the wake of motion. It's not as big an issue in the newest displays but it is still there. And the real reason VA isn't common for professional work yet is because viewing angles tend to be inferior to IPS. Modern TVs tend to be so big and people sit far away so being VA doesn't matter. But people sitting a few feet away from a 32 inch display means the edges are at a pretty sharp angle from your vision. This is why Samsung's monitors tend to be curved: it counters the negatives of the viewing angles. IPS the best middle ground platform where it's close to VA in contrast with FALD and speed is faster. But if you sit far from your displays or prefer a curved display the VA may actually look better to you.

[@FionatheFiend]

I've been using the many iterations of Samsung's Neo G9s: 49" and 57" screens for many years. Always wanted an OLED panel so I and bought a 65" Samsung S95D TV. I mainly play Games on my PC and have done this setup before with big TVs as a primary screen. The image quality is amazing and can only imagine how much better screens can get going forward with years to come. All i need now is a 5090 to replace my 4090.

[@MinistryOfMagic_DoM]

Personally my sweet spot is 3440x1440 <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1269">21:9</a>. It's crisp, just wide enough to give you extra immersion in games a lot of apps support it natively, great for work flow tasks, not so wide you need to turn your head side to side to see it like some 40+ inch panels. Price wise they are around the $500-700 mark for decent panels in either IPS or OLED. I've had two in the past decade and they are definitely where its at for gaming. You can get them upwards of 240+ hz these days too, but I personally go around 120-175 hz to target driving it at a consistent 144hz vs trying to get inconsistent 200+hz since I play a lot of graphically demanding titles more than twitch response games or eSport titles.

[@novocainDaimon]

Got the LG UltraGear GP950G 34" with 180 Hz and G-Sync Ultimate. This panel is actually pretty fast, and I would not go back to a regular 16:9 screen, even if it was an OLED...

[@SomeGuyFromUtah]

I bought the same monitor that Jay had in a video a couple years ago showing his personal setup. It's an LG 38 inch ultrawide monitor with 144hz refresh. It was very pricey, but I've been super happy with it. I don't plan on replacing it any time soon.

[@bobgame763]

CRT is still a legend.

[@Nathaniel-d3i]

Black and White CRT or bust! Must use Channel 3

[@griz3245]

And many are indestructible, I have an IBM 13" max resolution is 640x480 and it still works.

[@Juso3D]

Can remember going on Hardforums and wanting one of the must have ones.

[@RazorEye]

I have my old KDS XF-7e 17" in storage and refuse to get rid of it.

[@mahnkemachine3281]

I loved my 19” CTX. Unfortunately, it died about 15 years ago, and I didn’t have the money to replace it. My parents bought me my first LCD panel to replace it. No comparison in performance. The CRT was hands down the winner. But the LCD didn’t weigh the 50lbs the CRT weighed!😅

[@jeffcox4538]

Outstanding job Jay and team. I absolutely love my curved LG gaming monitor I purchased this year, however in the past I have sold many many ViewSonic monitors back when I worked in sales. My recent budget build looks absolutely outstanding on my big curvaceous monitor, and I don't think as a gamer and even casual work/streaming PC will go back to a flat monitor. Happy new year you guys. Thank you for all your effort keeping my personal "Computer Club... Computer Club" happy and fancy. Cheers!

[@RadioactiveLobster]

Looks like we are finally getting some 5120x2160 <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1269">21:9</a> monitors being shown off at CES 2025, which is what I've been waiting for for a long time. Just hope the prices are not insane.

[@AutisticViking83]

I'm currently using a 5120x1440. Great monitor, but some games struggle to fit even on fullscreen, as you may imagine

[@davidhodge0201]

I feel like the reason is that it is almost impossible to run a monitor like that

[@TheGeneReyva]

They will be at first. Probably take a couple of years before the prices are more palatable.

[@AutisticViking83]

@davidhodge0201 my 6950xt can run it, but I think the ratio is off for most games. Also yes, my card won't run all games at this res at high settings

[@Motion_God]

@@davidhodge0201yup most definitely need a 4080 plus to run that in todays games

[@PhotonicJerk]

You were more on topic in this video. No sudden ranting or joking. Probably just once about the smudge. Overall it felt more organized. Did you change anything in your video making process?

[@BlackReaper9]

This is incredibly informative and useful to me, thanks Jay

[@GamingBits-py1or]

I like this new kind of type of content, but it can definitely improve: i would have loved to see you shows us live what you are talking avout. As it stands you are cobstantly pointing to a screen thats off. The examples put in trough editing were ok, but it would have been nice to actually connect a real screen and show it as much as possible while talking. I get it that VA and Tien would have been sonewhaz of a waste of money if you did not have them on hand. But it was a bit hard to follow tbh. Keep doing it though, i like it. Happy new year guys!

[@danielhulan3058]

I'd say the most over looked part of a system is the sound system rather than the monitor but this is still good information.

[@Skylancer727]

Nah you don't need amazing audio. You can by Koss KSC75 or porta pros for $30 and still have audiophile grade quality. Like those things still sound amazing today and have all the imaging you need for gaming.

[@SchwachsinnProduzent]

@@Skylancer727 You can get second hand Stereo Hifi amplifiers for next to nothing, a set of stereo speakers for 30€ and a few cables for not much at all and get basically vintage audiophile grade gear.

[@hypnotiq]

@@Skylancer727 99% of people just buy some gamer branded slop though, that's the problem.

[@glebglub]

@@hypnotiq or beyerdynamic DT770/990 cos all the streamers use them but don't put on an EQ correction curve and wonder why they're getting tinitus

[@teardowndan5364]

Adaptive Sync does require hardware support. Except it is only a minor tweak to scaler chips and has been baked into virtually all new chips from the last ~10 years. There is next to no added cost to including Adaptive Sync support, which is why it can be found on monitors all the way down to $120 today.

[@V3n0m7_84]

BRUH OLED Panel is the only choice for me. Bought it and OOOOHHHH MY!!!! PERFECT black and color accuracy and responsive AF. If you go black you never go back :P !

[@gorrilaunit99]

*Just buy a used LG OLED TV, done* 😅

[@manny2684]

I haven’t cared about most of your videos for months now, but this was good, keep it up.

[@BrianTelleraineCarson]

One of the biggest issues I have is the bezel/border. I literally have a 1/2" border on the sides/top of my 27" 4k monitor, where as my two 24" 1080p side monitors have zero border.

[@Skylancer727]

It never bothered me. I still use the PG27UQ and it has a full inch thick border on all edges. The monitor next to it has a 1/4 inch border, but damn does it get hot. Plus I use the border on my display to hang my face cam. It's designed to hang over the top bezel and on my second monitor it actively cuts into the image.

[@jaw709]

Love this episode really like the science-centric approach. Was always wondering the difference between refresh rate and response time on a technical level

[@maddog9213]

With oled, you can open your banks website and see how much money you waited in all of its contrasty glory

[@Haydrion]

I appreciate this video. My monitor stopped working on Christmas eve so i have been looking at new ones and price, refresh rates etc.

[@Fezanall-wr4ql]

Im sick as hell pls someone help me

[@advancegeo2986]

get some soup mah boi

[@jcat96]

That's pretty sick dude 🤙

[@splashysiren]

Take Motrin and change your socks, also alternatively you can drink water and do push ups. hope this helps!

[@Ferrari255GTO]

Do you actually need help or are you goofin'?

[@grouchygamer2404]

drink a lot of water, rest and eat some soup.

[@tcaqueli5]

About a year ago the LG 27in 2k OLED was "cheap" for what it is so I got that. It does actually still look really good if at 1080p even though it's a 1440p. I tend to keep my monitors for a long time so putting some money into them I'm ok with. My last monitor was about 10 years old.

[@SimonMurrayPhuket]

With so many affordable OLED TV's is it an option to use a TV rather than a monitor?

[@semperbuffo6067]

I believe it is!!

[@SlimeyGuitarStrings]

One thing i think people should think about when upgrading monitors is if they use that computer for anything other than gaming and if so, what do they use it for? There are tons of remote and virtualization solutions such as RDP or Citrix where having mismatched resultions between monitors, higher resolutions than the computer you're remoting into, or different scalaing settings can make a higher resolution monitor more trouble than its worth to just get a nice 1080p monitor or monitors.

[@EyesOnlyTeam86]

🤗 THANK YOU!! Fantastic video. Monitors for dummies!! I've been looking for monitors upgrades for the last few years, but could never settle cause I couldn't get what I wanted.

[@benjihutch24]

Screen quality is so slept on. I was running a 1080p TN panel for years and I didn't realise how cheap much better panels had gotten. I recently picked up a factory refurbished MSI 180hz IPS 1440p monitor for £140. Despite being far from a top tier monitor the difference from my 5 year old TN was astounding and you don't realise what you are missing until you see it lol I understand the jump from IPS to Oled is similar to the jump from TN to IPS so I can't wait for that lol

[@glennmcrae7862]

Loved the information about monitors. You've done videos on what to do after building a new pc. Could you please do a video on setting a new install for parental controls for young children, including any free software that may be available.

[@w00t89]

Once you go OLED <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1269">21:9</a> HDR you can never go back.... You should invest first on a good monitor, then you should think about your tower. Monitors usually are not a part you change/buy often (or buy used) and it has the most impact on user experience. (more then GPU/CPU/RAM/FPS/GRAPHIC SETTINGS/SOUND/MOUSE/KEYBOARD) Nice video Jay if you can please do a video of how to clean (correctly) a monitor, especially OLED. Happy new years yall

[@denveradams4909]

I am using the Acer Predator X38, 38" curved screen monitor. It seems to be all that I need. It's only draw back, is that the stand legs take up a lot of real estate on my desk. It does swivel, which is nice so I can watch videos from my love seat across the room from the PC.

[@CyberFoxUK]

I have had the MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD monitor for almost 3 years now, I'm very happy with it, as it covers my gaming and photography side of things. This monitor comes with Rapid IPS 165hz Refresh rate, 1ms GTG response time, Quantum Dot technology and Nvidia G-SYNC. At the time of purchase I could not afford the OLED panel.

[@mantis1099]

Thanks I've been looking at getting a new monitor. You really cleared up some of the confusion I was having.

[@RoylRoostr]

Just recently went from a 65" TV Samsung series 9 curve to Samsung 57" UW and its a god send.. so much versatility Black Friday sales helped.

[@SylphidUndine]

i'm glad you still upload content in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="969">16:9</a>

[@malguskerensky]

Add in one thing about OLED displays, the burn in issue with a minor bit of care, is not a big concern. I jumped on the Gen4 OLED early in 2024 and have had no regrets and not seen any indications of burn in at all. Let the panel do the refreshes and run an OLED safe screen saver or full screen an OLED safe YT video if you are not going to use the display for 30+ minutes and you should enjoy your investment for years to come.

[@401Impala]

About to build my new rig in a few hours. Went with a Samsung 34" Odyssey G85SB Series QD-OLED and a RTX 4080 Super. Can't wait!

[@karstenswiridjuk4747]

Fantastic video! Thank you for sharing. Happy New Year to you and your family and all the hard working people behind the scenes.👏👏

[@benhallman166]

I learn so much from watching your channel. It was the first computer info channel I started watching. Thank you for all the help!

[@Dynasty1818]

Finally moved to OLED, Dell AW2725DF. 1440p 360hz and Freesync. Straight away the blacks are inky black and the colours are far more vibrant for sure. It's a compromise though. The screen needs to move itself now and again to prevent burn in, and having the sun on it or any close light source reveals the lining as it were inside the panel and is really, really distracting. Get it in a darker room though and it's great, if lacking in brightness somewhat.

[@Blumenfreund84]

Jay, you look better and better! Keep it up, sir! 💪

[@georgegn6534]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="658">10:58</a> Nice mouse! I looked them up and they have amazing PCs! Rented one myself!

[@solidreactor]

My Feedback: Great video idea and concept, however ("only") good execution. I would like some more illustrations, pictures, animations and perhaps analogies to go along with your verbal explanation (Analogies like the relation between screen size, screen resolution and the pixel density as the relations between size and res; Perhaps illustrate that with Lego blocks, small blocks vs large blocks where they are the same amount i.e. representing "pixels"). I could follow along just fine because I'm "well versed" in monitor tech, or how you want to describe it, but I think we can do this good video even greater with more pedagogical tools. (as a side note, as others has already mentioned, you got the R value for curved monitors reversed, lower R-number is higher curvature, R is the radius and the screen is the sector/arc of the circle.) I really like these kind of videos, they are great for teaching us why we should perhaps care more about e.g. monitors, and more specifically *How/What* to care about and *Why*. My feedback is to add the pedagogical explanatory content that I mentioned and correct the minor things.

[@coltonbucholz6278]

Is it just me or did you all hear the "AHHHHHH" when Jay took a drink during that ad run lol 🤣

[@ericheft6184]

Thank you Jay, this is a great video. Monitors often last though multiple computer cycles so getting a good one you are going to be happy with 5-10-15 years. It seems that most of the review sites have given up on doing monitor reviews.

[@goranskrnjug]

After Steve visited Jay he start to have more interesting videos to me. Subscribed again.

[@danplaysdw]

Happy new year Jay!

[@reigovahtre8418]

I've always wanted to buy an OLED, but I'm still afraid of screen burn-in. How is it now? I still read a lot on reddit that the screen is already burned out and it cost a lot

[@Dramian98]

Happy New Year to the J2C Crew! After reading some of my fellow commenters and their monitor choices, I feel like the odd man out. I've had 1080P and 1440P monitors but, for me personally 4K is my choice. I just recently got the Samsung Odessey Ark V2. 55" 4k 1000R curve 165Hz refesh 1 GTG and everything gamining wise I've thrown at it weather it's World of Warships to Escape from Tarkov, this thing has preformed flawlessly. I was initally worried that my 4080 would be under more stress with the refresh rate but, it stays as cool as when i was on my old monitor. yes it was pricey even on sell but for me it's been perfect.

[@TheFlawlessHost]

Great introduction for buying a monitor. Two pieces of feedback 1. You used the acronym FOV without explaining what it is. 2. This might be more of a personal thing than really need to know, but explaining about input lag could also be helpful.

[@supaflytoon7684]

Jay - Most TVs have VA panels and have excellent deep blacks, which IPS often struggles with, to say that VA is old tech mid between TN and IPS is a stretch - those new rapid VA panels are excellent option for media consumption, IPS are better for gaming because of their better timings and less overshoot, but there is a market for VA panels today and until OLEDS become much much cheaper.

[@rrennnerr]

If you had to pick, 2 27” monitors or 1 larger monitor?

[@craigmacdougal7826]

I'd like to see x:10 aspect ratios come back, for gaming grade panels <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="970">16:10</a>, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1270">21:10</a> etc. Been hoping each year for that, but nothing. Last year there was some hope with a few <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="970">16:10</a> small ones appear. I'd like a 35" or so, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1270">21:10</a> myself

[@thomasbell5838]

This really helped me thanks jay 👌 keep up the good content

[@jwhitaker81]

Thanks Jay. Dropped this one a day before I buy a 49" MSI <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1929">32:9</a> QD OLED. Good stuff!

[@RAY_FILET]

Ah yes, everyone I know has always trusted...MSI?🤔

[@jwhitaker81]

@@RAY_FILET After being loyal to ASUS for many years they left me hanging hard, three times. MSI has been great to me. Switched and haven't looked back. Now, a half decade or so ago you couldn't pay me to run MSI gear. Different times and experiences, I guess.

[@ItsBewildered]

I bought my left monitor from Circuit City, and my right monitor is one of the first Vizio LCDs. I think I need an upgrade coming up in the next few years.

[@MaethorDerien]

Frankly I am actually considering going from ultrawide back to standard and this is someone who has been gaming on ultrawide for almost 10 years. I was a very early adopter to using ultrawide screens and early on I had a good regular monitor for backup for games that didn't properly support it but for the last 6ish years I have just used ultrawide. I love ultrawide in things like skyrim, cyberpunk, fallout, dragon age, etc. Pretty much every story based game the ultrawide really elevates the experience. It is way more immersive when you have that wider aspect ratio. I also find that support in these games is generally really quite good for ultrawide and ui issues are less of an issue. Then I go to play something that is more action based game like an FPS with hud elements in the corners of the screen or bad hud scaling for ultrawide. It is rare where I see options to center the UI or move it in games and when it exists it can often be a pain in the ass to find those options. It has gotten way better over the years though. 5 years ago those UI center options didn't exist in most games and now it has been trending to be more common. It leaves me 50/50 on which way to go, I learn towards ultrawide but the huge price premium(your often paying twice the price for 30-40% more pixels) and the ui issues get so annoying. Luckily my oled ultrawide is going to last me at least another year so I have plenty of time to figure out what I want to go with. Frankly I think it will depend on if there is a good 4k ultrawide when I decide to upgrade or not.

[@davefinfrock3324]

Glad someone brought this up. UW is great for first or third person games. The extra peripheral view make them much more immersive. However, top down games are a different story. The continuing implosion of AAA gaming means most of the innovation and actually good games are coming from the indie side of things. Top down and isometric games are much more prevalent and 2K and 4K monitors are better suited for them. I'm still in the UW camp, but both my UW monitors are now 7 and 4 years old. Both are still in excellent condition, but the next monitor will probably be a return to 4K.

[@Matt_C130]

Might help to have an audible beep or something to signal the end of the strobing demonstration. Thanks for the dip into screen knowledge/tech tips Jay.

[@SmookinJoe]

Happy Happy New Year to Your Team Love the Background Layout Jay Nice Salute to EVGA

[@scotchbarrel4429]

Great vid, simple, love it!

[@HellhoundXIV]

Extremely helpful video, thank you J2C.

[@chriss3594]

Happy new year Jay and crew.

[@ronnie8274]

wow, there really are alot of things to consider. Thankyou Jay. I learned something here.

[@The1RandomFool]

I got a Viewsonic Elite based on a Jay video a while ago, and love it. It's 4k, 144 Hz, 32 inches. It can overclock to 150 Hz, but there's no need. It was a little expensive, but worth it.

[@killer01ws6]

I ran into this unfortunately for me at the height the prices and scalping.. I had as you said Best Rig I could put together, so I got a OLED mini LED, ROG Swift PG32UQX. this, the 4090 cost me 2K and this monitor was more than the GPU. Yep my 4K gaming looks amazing, I am glad you are pointing out ways to get some of this tech now at a much lower cost. I will say, the better the monitor and the resolution, the higher cost of the GPU and CPU you need to run it properly. Very good info to pass to folks Jay.