Cheaper but still a terrible value... RTX 4080 Super

Update! The price of the 4080 Super Vulcan is $1249 USD! Thats a $250 price premium over FE and is absolutely NOT worth it! - The RTX 4080 Super is here... and this is the card we SHOULD have gotten from the start!
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[@xs8067]

I miss the when the 80 series was $600 - $700

[@mikelay5360]

Am drooling looking at 4090 bars. If it ever gets back to msrp I'm buying it

[@Divinicus1er]

The 4070 Super fit that place. It will run everything at ultra at 1440p for a long time.

[@Scoutingg]

@@Divinicus1ersome people dont want 80fps at 1440p

[@ChiBrianXIII]

Lol, nah fam. I give that card a solid 2-3 years tops. Then you'll be riding out on them DLSS fake frames for as long as you're able. @@Divinicus1er

[@baska-]

Not trying to defend current prices but inflation is a real thing and is only gonna get worse.

[@jimflagg4009]

I am glad you are putting up price charts. I think a lot of reviewers are afraid to talk about price because they fluctuate.

[@jodieholmes8453]

We had a chance at competition but Steve and the rest of them rejected it. So it's clear they don't care about the prices since they get the products for free.

[@jimflagg4009]

@@jodieholmes8453 Is it really that? I think they are afraid to mention price because someone might complain that what they bought their card for was not the same as mentioned on the show. I guess if you talk about suggested MSP instead of actual price it might be OK because you can say this is the recommended price by NVIDIA at the time.

[@MistedMind]

@@jodieholmes8453 "We had a chance at competition but Steve and the rest of them rejected it." Who did what and when? If you're talking about Intel, yeah, they are nice and all compared to the 4060. But they currently have no products on mid and enthusiast gaming level.

[@ScottyDo3sntKnow]

@@jodieholmes8453what are you talking about? They all talk about prices they just do it in their own way.. gamers nexus and hardware unboxed both talk about cost per frame and what is worth it

[@ScreaminpirateEDC]

@@jodieholmes8453 I would love to know where they are getting 4080 supers for $999. Did they even look at newegg or amazon etc? sigh.

[@Merlijn39]

We really need some competition in the GPU space.

[@xxshiftywolfxxgaming1142]

I guess AMD and intel aren’t competing 😅

[@Talonzor]

@@xxshiftywolfxxgaming1142not really no

[@OriginalOrigins]

@@Talonzor recent update to adrenalin was very good

[@Sergmanny46]

@@xxshiftywolfxxgaming1142They are, but people are still dumb and think only ngreedia can build decent cards.

[@user-bw6sl1sk7h]

Considering AMD is rumored to be skipping the high end in the next gen (apparently their highest GPU in the next gen will be equal to a 4080), it's only going to be worse.

[@Cowlord2000]

" dont give them ideas" 😭0:19

[@HBKVault]

@John-PaulHunt-wy7lfwhy?

[@Fabled.-]

Love this setup with the tv behind. Super funs style so we can see what you are looking at without losing you!

[@winston9055]

I was just thinking that, I’m really digging the screen, air easier to follow along, plus I’ve always been curious on what jay has on his screen lol

[@84jdgregory]

I honestly think a virtual desktop/screen would be better, but maybe that's because it's what I'm used to. Regardless, either a TV or virtual TV is better than cutting out to a full screen that periodically disconnects you from the person talking.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

The only reason they went with matte black is because it's harder to spot melting 12vHPWR connectors if all the plastic isn't shiny.

[@mullerstephan]

lol

[@rodiculous9464]

Pretty sure that would be knowingly violating some kind of consumer protection

[@michaeloswal9847]

​@@rodiculous9464 yes, because in the US they care about consumers.

[@mute9914]

​@michaeloswal9847 do you think Nvidia cards are only bought in the US?

[@michaeloswal9847]

@@mute9914 You funny, your question exposes how "intellect" you are. No wonder you still think "Ds" are a left wing party.

[@shaquan9893]

I got a 7900xtx and dont plan on upgrading for a while. Was only $800 and I love this card so much!

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Really at $800 that is an instant buy for me.

[@jimflagg4009]

I think the reason behind Super cards is to clear out their overstock before they release the next generation. It looks like this time they Binned the GPUs that had extra stable cores and released them as Supers. The card is the same just the GPU is a little better.

[@RaykingMaster]

I'm getting that card very, very soon.... 7900xtx yeesss

[@XteriorxpertsFL]

@@RaykingMasterYou won’t be disappointed I’ve been rocking my 7900xtx since release and it’s been flawless runs 4k very well coming from a 2080ti > 6950xt > 7900xtx

[@CalculatedRisk]

@shaquan9893 Where did you get it for 800?

[@devvvinparker1203]

Gotta say, I switched from my old 2080 TI to a 7900 XT a little over a month ago, not regretting it at all. Especially after knowing I didn't miss out on these "super" cards

[@WCGwkf]

You missed out on the xtx though. Small additional cost for great gains

[@devvvinparker1203]

@@WCGwkf Was out of my budget, and I got a fantastic deal on the 7900XT. Couldn't justify the $150+ it would have cost me

[@TheNewSkai]

$150 is not a small additional cost

[@LeHoser]

I recently upgraded from a 1080ti to a 7900xtx. After hearing about the supers coming out I was a bit worried I’d regret my purchase, too. But man these super cards just seem so disappointing according to the benchmarks

[@AzSureno]

I have a 6800xt , so far I haven’t seen anything that’s saying I need a new card , however I’m kinda forced to buy a new card cause my wife’s 3070 is horrible

[@334nickg]

I have my 3060ti and I'm still happy with it. Running a 1440p 144htz monitor and everything feels smooth. While I'm sure my newer games aren't hitting the max fps, they're still fun to play and I don't notice any issues. Feels like the marketed FOMO is getting really out of hand.

[@Brent_P]

Perfect card for a primarily multi-player gamer.

[@dharkbizkit]

dont worry, i have a 4080 and a 13600k and iam suprised how many titles just barely reach above 60fps on ultra setting without using dlss and sort. i was expecting the same jump i had when going from from gtx 670 to the gtx 1080, where i went from 40fps on medium to 110 on ultra

[@DaleKimi166]

Got the 7900XTX for $800 last year. I occasionally get FOMO'd and tempted to switch back to Team Green, but this video validates that there really is nothing to look forward to on the green side and how much of a great value the 7900XTX really is.

[@Healthy_Toki]

*was, it's $1000 now.

[@MrDutch1e]

At the same price, which they are right now, the 4080 super is the unquestionable option. There's no argument for the AMD card at the same price.

[@dragonsmonk]

@@MrDutch1e for the europs the cards still have €100/200 difference between 4080 super and 7900xtx. So you're looking at €950 - 1050 for the XTX vs €1120 - 1200 for the super

[@rodiculous9464]

​@@MrDutch1ethe argument is you wont run out of vram after like 2 years 😂

[@nottsoserious]

​@@MrDutch1eordered an FE for MSRP. Literally refreshed bestbuys page on and off on several days. While I hate Nvidia as a company, I think the 4080 super is a better product for the price. But if you want easy availability, go with team red

[@TheRHIM]

I’d love to see a breakdown of the cost to manufacture one of these cards to see what their markups are. I feel like it’s all just gouging.

[@Zero-Skillz]

I don't think it's the cost of manufacture that drives the price, it's the R&D that goes into them.

[@theadmjg]

​​@@Zero-SkillzIt takes a dedicated team of engineers to design a card that is different, yet almost completely identical in performance to its predecessor. Also a dedicated marketing team to try and present it as something better. (I agree with you, I just find this whole launch laughable)

[@braderley]

Problem is, talking heads on KZbin will pick up on what the general theme is, and regurgitate what the comment section is saying to farm more engagement. The product that get hate and love are the same time, usually all revolve around one competition with two philosophies Make the best product, and charge the earth for it And Make almost the same product, and charge almost the same for it. It then turns into this, battle where people waste a lot of energy and emotion hating on things mainly because they can’t afford them, or loving them with all their hearts because they saved for them for example. My $599 was not wasted, I have a good card, that will last for a while for what I need it to do and that’s all I care about. I don’t begrudge someone who went with more performance for the same money but I will have no sympathy if they ran into problems at some point (as is well reported with driver issues and speed of deployment) as they have no sympathy with me for having a lower performing card at the same cost. You’re being farmed, you always have been and always will be. Easier to go through life without being mad at businesses whose mission is to make the most out of you, as you would in their position. If you wouldn’t, you’ll never be in that position and always be 3 generations behind. If that makes you happy, stop complaining in comment sections about prices, your attitude is why you don’t have a new card

[@theadmjg]

@@braderley I'm not being farmed. I haven't bought a card, new in box, in over a decade. The last card I bought was a used 3070 for like 400 bucks that needed repairs. If anything, the Super launch bringing down the prices of the 40 series as a whole is a good thing. Undoubtedly, it was an accounting decision because sane people avoided the 40 series at MSRP and they weren't selling.

[@flimermithrandir]

It is.

[@romel420]

I had to work on the 4080S launch day and just could not take the time off to try and get this card myself. So, I sent my mother-in-law on a mission to get one for me at our local Microcenter lol. She doesn't even know how to turn on my computer, that's how computer illiterate she is, but I had no one else to depend on! I gave her a crash course on GPU manufacturers, that the 4080S could be sold under several different brands, and to try her best to land me either the FE, or the Zotac Gaming Trinity Black Edition, which both retailed for the $999, but if those were gone/sold out, ANY other 4080S would suffice. I was working on a new build and had everything except the GPU because I was waiting for the 4080S release, so I was running on the iGPU in the meantime. I gave her additional instructions that if for whatever reason she couldn't find any 4080S, to grab the Sapphire 7900XTX Nitro+ that was in stock there. And if for some CRAZY reason, both the 4080S and the 7900XTX's were all sold out, there was a 4090 sitting in the cabinet for the last couple days, she could bring that baby home lol. I secretly wished for the 4080S and 7900XTX to be all sold out, but she came home with the Zotac Gaming 4080S. She did say that the sales rep who helped her had tried to talk her into buying a different 4080S that was $1299, but since the $999 Zotac was available, she declined. He even tried to get her to call me and ask, but she snapped back and said, "I think I can decide for myself which one to get for him!" lol.

[@bucknastysbowl4127]

Ima say this here right now, jayz graphs for 1080, 1440 and 4k are so simple and straight forward that it should be a standard!

[@LucDesormeaux]

Just FYI, it might have been added in the coments already, but the FE Card are only at Best Buy in Canada.

[@khirasier]

they arent anywhere in aus, also exact same price as a 4080, at least here its far more worth buying a 7900xtx which is 300$ cheaper here

[@RADukura]

Neither do I and many gamers, don’t worry dude

[@KellerFkinRyan]

me and the 1400 other people in line on nvidias site think otherwise lol

[@Sergmanny46]

@@KellerFkinRyan 1400 people out of 20 million nvidia users. Yes, that certainly screams big stonks.

[@haraldjohansen1867]

​@@KellerFkinRyanOnly 1400?! Holy shit.

[@Th3Fly1ngCow]

@@KellerFkinRyanonly 1400 such a low percentage

[@brydenkelsey3257]

Many people wait until a product has been released for more than a month. Common sense.

[@KoFFeeFPS]

Oh boy. Just woke up, and now I just want to go back to bed.

[@tjenahoj]

I am waiting for the 4030 Extreme Super Ti OC X Volcanoid Orgasmic Edition with RGB, heads up display, hologram and built in lava lamp.

[@Bigjohn2121]

I bought a 7900xtx Tuf OC and a 7950x3d a few months back for like a $100 more dollars compared to what 4080 oc's were selling for at the time.

[@goldenhate6649]

You can build entire computers for the prices of these cards if you don’t splurge on rgb

[@andrejins]

For xtx biggest bonus is no 12pin melting connector 😂

[@mmmm69420]

just picked up a 7900xt for $950 canadian. VERY happy i didn’t wait for the 4080 super

[@groenevinger3893]

i feel sorry for you tho..

[@AwesomeDomi1]

@@groenevinger3893why? It’s not 950USD, 950CAD is 700USD, a great price especially outside the US

[@Nighterlev]

Great card, much cheaper then whatever Nvidia is offering & better performance. I have a 7900 XTX, absolutely love it.

[@dereineGorden]

​@@groenevinger3893 here in Germany the cheapest 4080super is 1150€ including tax while the cheapest 7900xt is 780€ including tax so yeah.... Also 16gb vs. 24gb

[@lightbird27]

Good instinct my dude. Got my 4080 back in march for 1200€ and i'm good too

[@ShaunBeyleveld]

I too have a 3860x1600 monitor, it is fantastic. I really wish a manufacturer would do a OLED in 38" or above in this resolution already.

[@Doctor_Horrible759]

I’ve only started watching PC channels in the last year or so after semi building a computer for my wife. I’ve found that it is very challenging to determine what to get as a consumer for many parts because there are so many options and figuring out what the differences are can be confusing. I appreciate this channel and GN for keeping everything pretty straightforward.

[@itsv1p3r]

And then by the time youre done doing all that research new components have released and you can either pull the trigger and deal with the fomo or do another round of research 🫠

[@Enclosure_2k]

Dude the a 4070ti super is 1000€ here, i can imagine this gpu price....

[@dwbkmj]

I’m happy with my 4090. It’s way over kill for my needs but I only upgrade every 6 years. So I don’t really upgrade my pc like an iPhone. To me it was overpriced but way better than my 1080 ti. Max sittings on everything with 132 average fps 1440p on an ultra wide 240 hz monitor. 64gs 6800 Corsair titanium ram asus z790 mb, 6 tb m.2, 1200 watt Thor asus psu running windows 11. Using g & v sync and dlss upscaling to 4k. It kicks ass. I game and create short story animations as a hobby with adobe

[@hhdeng]

$1000 before tax still expensive. It is better than $1200 before tax. Not a lot but that $200 for my monthly car gas fee instead. I’m coming from 1080ti. It’s showing its age. But still keeping it as backup.

[@OceansUnknownwithToddKortte]

2% better....Duh we can all see that just from the specs. I wish channels would compare 4070 TI Super vs 4080 Super instead of the 4080 which won't be around in 2 weeks. Is $200 worth the jump from 4070 TI Super vs 4080 Super? Thats the only thing that matters right now.

[@MrKony98]

In Poland the 4080sFE was sold in less than 5 minutes 😂 I was looking into it, buy the website was laggy, buggy and it was too late.

[@towely]

I picked a great time to jump back into the computer building scene... ...I feel like I got invited to a friend's house for Thanksgiving and arrived right in the middle of a massive family argument that I had nothing to do with... but I'm not leaving until I get some turkey.

[@GhostSenshi]

I went with the strix 4070ti super, coming from the strix 2080. It breathed new life into my RT titles with double the fps, while keeping everything in ultra at 3440x1440, and despite running a 9900k build, my gpu has been holding a capable 3100mhz and that’s awesome. I’m honestly glad I waited

[@kevod579]

Curious on how the loads on the cpu are? I have the same build but hesitant to upgrade the gpu and considering just building a new machine with a new cpu. Does the 9900k bottleneck it at all?

[@GhostSenshi]

@@kevod579 so far everything seems fine. Cpu Temps while gaming are 10c over idle and far under any type of heavy load temps. I haven’t watched it’s workload activity yet though against the gpu activity. But the gpu activity looks healthy and I haven’t seen stuttering in benchmarks or gaming

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

@@kevod5799900K is still a monster CPU and wouldn’t bottleneck a 4070 Ti. My brother has a 9700K with his 4070 Ti and it runs great at 1440p ultrawide.

[@joshtheking1772]

Just makes you realize how right EVGA was to pack it in because these prices are way too high. The first company to move to 1440p as their standard is gonna be the king. Why would you play any game 1080p with RT on? That would be like buying a $250,000 Ferrari to put Faux Leather interior in it.

[@renzoortega4301]

I will stick with my 3080Ti, it has done me well thus far

[@yourhandlehere1]

With DLSS and 1440 SOTR ultra settings...the 4080FE is getting 37 more fps than my 3080 10g. Think I'll hang on to my money for a while.

[@scottc2455]

Any result over the Hz-limit of your monitor is meaningless anyway. It could be argued that any results over @120 fps are pretty meaningless. Higher end GPUs only make sense for 4K resolution in much more demanding games, where fps falls below that magic 100-120 fps, where you can actually see performance benefits.

[@yourhandlehere1]

​@@scottc2455 Yeah, I used to be able to see the flicker on anything below 65Hz on a crt. My 3080 was originally running 4K (60Hz) just fine on a 43 inch TV. TV died last year and I got a 32 inch LG, 1440, 165Hz. A bit smoother looking. Might bump my cpu next if anything. Board will take a 5000 series, Im on a 3700X, waiting on 5950X to get cheaper. I've been on 16 threads in various ways for years. I want to try 32.

[@DerekDudage]

3080 12GB here. I am getting a solid 50-60 FPS with Cyberpunk 2077 @ 4K with RTX on High, DLSS at Quality, and All other Settings on Ultra. Although my GPU is Overclocked and Undervolted. Not worth upgrading until the 5000 series IMO. I'm still running an i7-8700k, too, btw. Not worth it to upgrade to the 4000 series...

[@kevinmcclung1194]

⁠​⁠@@DerekDudageno shot you got 60 fps on ray tracing high with 3080 with 8700k. I have 9700k and have to turn off ray tracing to get that fps.

[@DerekDudage]

Well, I've been playing and was keeping track of FPS for the first 20 hours or so. I don't know what's different but I am not lying about my rig or FPS. It's not a constant 60, but stays near or above 50 FPA 99% of the time. Like I said, took the time to overclock and undervolt and it has made my card run SO much better in every way.@@kevinmcclung1194

[@HonorguyXNL]

With all the prices being online now in my country (Netherlands) I am baffled to notice that pretty much all 4080 models are more expensive (by sometimes 300 euros) than the 4080 Supers that just dropped.

[@YayDanMan]

Well either retailers have to sell them for a loss or a rebate is negotiated to allow retailers to not takes losses if 4080's are discounted

[@Andy_Spy]

In Greece, it’s the opposite.The Super cards are more expensive than the non-super. Of course, I’m talking about the 80s Msrp my azz 😂

[@Shockz_BE]

Same in Belgium neighbour ;) 4090 +/- 2,000€ lol

[@ResidentWeevil2077]

That was the intention from the very first announcement though. Or are you living that much under a rock you couldn't check the news once in a while?

[@ResidentWeevil2077]

@@Andy_Spy Nvidia said "eff you" to Greece apparently 🙃

[@Morshale]

@JayzTwoCents not sure if you've done this before, but I really like the TV in the background showing the graphs while you talk through it.

[@a.higgins2501]

Matching the VRAM capacity of the 7900XT would've been appreciated.

[@Antipiperosdeclony]

And 320 bits

[@Frozoken]

Also not being 30% slower than the 4090 would be great too. The 2080ti was in the high teens% faster

[@FilthEffect]

More VRAM doesn't help if no game is close to 16gb usage. It stops the card slowing down, it doesn't increase performance. A bigger bus size would have been nicer however

[@Gamer-q7v]

​@@Frozoken The 4080 is around 35% slower than the 4090 at native 4K max settings, and that gap only widens in ray traced games. It's not really surprising when the 4090 has way more cores, ROPS, and bandwidth than the 4080. The 4080 Super is what the 4080 should have been. They should have released a 4080 Ti by now on the AD102 chip. I think gamers would have definitely preferred that.

[@Frozoken]

@@Gamer-q7v Yeah maybe im always looking at 4k when im saying this tho im sure in certain games that can utilise all the 4090's cuda cores properly it is around that margin but that isnt all games. Also yes while i agree with the last part, most of the issue is taht the morons made a seperate 103 die above the 104 die to seemingly give the 80 class closer performance to the 102 dies on the 80ti/90 yet it now has even less cores than the 80 class did on the 104 dies relative to the full die and not even a 320 bit bus width. Ad103 shouldve had 100sm/12800 cores and a 320 bit bus and then itd be close enough where it wouldnt be a big issue imo

[@Real_SkyRipper]

that colorful Igame looks great, but it's only Asia sale, so damn sad.

[@omgninja66]

Got u Jay. U go back 6 to 8 months ago I didn't know anything. Didn't even know what a cpu, gpu or ram was lol. But now of doing Research watching videos asking questions talking to people And watching your videos is what I can across 1st and watched a lot and u explain and show everything really well. Good job and thank you for everything. Now I know enough to build it...right and help others.

[@LordDonnington725]

As of checking a few days ago, the price of the XTX has come down and is now around $899 MSRP, so unless you have a hard-on for RT, the 40 series seems even less compelling. I am currently in the process of buying my new build and the GPU is likely the part I will buy last. Currently im running a 2070 Super and im debating on whether or not I should wait to see what the next gen offers before pulling the trigger.

[@CaptConfusion71]

23 minutes after this vid went live......Best Buy only has 1 SKU left in stock. That being said, I'm going to get a FE eventually, for incorporation if a future watercooled build.

[@Frozoken]

Lots of rumours were saying there'd be barely any stock for the 4070 ti super and 4080 super because nvidia wants the base models sold seeing they're being phased out so that's probably why.

[@ITZxD3CrypTionz]

Coming from a 1070 the 4080 SUPER is probably well worth the cost here in Australia, since my monitor is only 1440p 144hz

[@ron200088]

I just upgraded like 3 weeks ago to a RTX 4080 Palit Jetstream for the equivalent of $900. In my country, the cheapest RTX 4080 Super is the Gigabyte Windforce, which sells for the equivalent of $1265. The most expensive is the Asus Strix RTX 4080 Super, which sells for the equivalent of $1750. Pretty happy with the deal I got. No Founders Edition sold in my country.

[@maboulofob]

Which country ?

[@ron200088]

@@maboulofob Hungary.

[@reaperthemad8731]

​@@ron200088no not really, I just had breakfast.

[@ron200088]

@@user-tj4ee6si7x People like me, actually wait for a decent deal. Upon release, the cheapest RTX 4080, was like $1450. The same Palit Jetstream. People like me, also work for a living and a modern GPU, is part of the PC, that produces the vast part of my income. Times have changed, prices have gone high. Nvidia couldn’t care less about people like me, when the vast majority of their income, comes from the business sector. You either adapt or you sink. And then you start complaining that you can’t upgrade, because no money.

[@temperedglass1130]

Simp

[@itzzebo7571]

I’d love to see ultraiwde resolutions tested for new releases in the future with hardware moving past 1080p

[@tylertrimble9718]

I waited 24 extra hours for this video

[@temperedglass1130]

Sad

[@abraham9301]

@@temperedglass1130 nvidia pushed reviews back on purpose.

[@Sptn051]

Oh please pretty please throw in results on 3440x1440 monitors. What I run for all my games because I just love the immersion an ultrawide brings.

[@unclej3910]

Same here. After using a 3440x1440 monitor for the last few years, a 16:9 looks too narrow. Ugh. 🙂

[@RS42174]

Yes, this!!!

[@RaykingMaster]

Yaayyy I'm finally 100% sure to buy the 7900xtx

[@KrazzeeKane]

Enjoy spending $1000 on a gpu that loses to the 4070 Super when RT is turned on at max settings. And if you don't plan to use RT or max settings...then why buy such an expensive gpu? To me, the 4080 Super is the clear winner unless the 7900 XTX drops to around $800

[@RaykingMaster]

@@KrazzeeKane RTX ON? lol you are funny, not even a 5% of gamers use that stupid ray tracing, that's how Nvidia it's making a budget from idiots lol, I was one of those when 2000 and 3000 series but no more...

[@Liq38]

agreed, think I'll wait for the 7900XTX to hit $799 again and I'll jump on it. Raytracing isn't worth $200 to me and for 4k the XTX will outlast the 4080S because of vram.

[@RaykingMaster]

@@Liq38 I'm definitely waiting for that too

[@Frozoken]

​@@RaykingMasterok how about reflex and DLSS 2 quality? Everyone turns on reflex seeing it has no downsides and DLSS quality is used a lot too.

[@jensenhuangnvidiaCEO]

in the end, people bought it anyway. Thanks, FOR THE LEATHER!

[@crunchied8]

Jay I am still thinking going AMD cards now they are pretty close and cheaper than nvidia

[@Sergmanny46]

AMD 6000 and 7000 series are a must for any intelligent buyer that actually wants to see the most performance per dollar. Also, if the rumors are true, there will be some pretty good things once the 8000 comes out (similar performance to 4080 at HALF the cost).

[@snazzies8051]

Depends on what design you like the most and what you like in games. Personally for me Ray tracing looks way better on my 1440p and 4k monitor. I don’t really like playing single player games like cyberpunk without it

[@Drewkungfoo]

There’s room for a 4080Ti on the AD102 die w/ 320 Memory Bit Bus, 420W, 14,348 CUDA Cores and such

[@WayStedYou]

But they would rather just use those dies for 4090s at higher prices

[@xExPL0iiT]

Jay I think you should start doing some testing of triples for us SIM racers id like to see if 1080 would still be irrelevant using tripples

[@alt5494]

Would be entertaining if AMD or intel dropped a halo card into this launch.

[@hysterikeric7335]

I'm just happy that they are dropping the prices on the other gpu's, I've been trying to save up for one and I'm glad this makes it easier

[@AkornzStash]

would have liked to see 4080 super v/s 4070 ti super, since it is also an ad103. But i was able to compare some of it to your video on it. would also REALLY like to see comparisons for Premiere Pro usage. Still good video, you always have a lot of good useful info. you are my go-to channel for all things tech 👍

[@Retset]

22:15 Phil (I guess) - awesome closing screen lol

[@liamcaroline448]

Big performance gap between 80 super and 90 tells me they have a 4080 Ti and Ti Super waiting in the wings. And probably a 90Ti too

[@RarestAce]

Will you be reviewing the new 5700X3D?

[@TheGiannispanatha13]

After this i love my 7900xt more and i will change it at 2025 for 8900.

[@davepianist84]

This Lovelace cards really remind me of the Turing series.

[@Frozoken]

Except it's artificial this time seeing the 4090 is massively faster than the 3090 was while the 2080ti was no where near that much faster than the 1080 ti. Should've been a pascal, was a Turing for anything other than the 4090.

[@raymondtong7613]

The iGame Vulcan 4080 Super is currently available for purchase in Malaysia at a retail price of MYR5999.

[@NickChronic01]

trying to resell your gpu always sucks because they get worthless really fast

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Yeah the used market got hit hard which benefits the gamers and not the sellers. You can now buy an used RTX 4080 for $550.

[@Tactify24]

​@AnonymousUser-ww6ns the cheapest I am seeing is $760 for used. I see a $500 one but it's "parts only" whatever that means on Ebay so it's prob not actually a 4080 you would get

[@ruthlessedgeboy8591]

That usually means it's broken in some way.@@Tactify24

[@jakobschneider558]

@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns Not where I live. In Austria they try to sell it for like 5-10% less, than the original price...

[@Sha-gb5ou]

Just wait 2 years. In 2026, It’ll be 400-500. The 4090 will be at 1300 probably.

[@hirschkuh1982]

the next KZbinr who simply doesn't understand that you don't buy a custom graphics card because of the higher fps, but because of the look and, above all, because of the much lower fan noise

[@Maddsyz27]

here in australia, the super has dropped at the msrp of the non super and the 4080 stock is available at the super msrp

[@luizhitmano]

Well, that is just dumb.. for the consumer. At least you can get a discout for the original 4080 .

[@coldfyrre]

4080 super came out and its %10 more expensive than the 4080 in my country... great.

[@BANDIT198455]

I don't care about the performance I care about the price. On amazon they are asking 1500 for 4080! That is crazy.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Hahahha hahaha That is Nivdia and resellers maupilating the price to make you think that the super is better when in reality it’s olny performs 2% better. The olny thing going for RTx 4080 super is the $1,000 MSRP but really should be $800 since we are getting essentially the same performance Also in the used market the RTx 4080 is going for $560 now

[@BANDIT198455]

@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns Agree 100% everything is a scam today period.

[@JNoff34]

Awesome this just solidified my choice in the 7900xtx

[@donmike2810]

Lmao only worth it if you can get for under 800$. Otherwise, paying that much for a gaming only gpu and not caring about the RT performance and other features makes no sense.

[@chalkywhite9807]

Please start including 3440 x 1440.... that would be amazing

[@rustler08]

No. Just do the math.

[@TheGeneReyva]

The 4090 is an entirely different class to the 4080 Super. E: Colorful make some nice cards. "The 4080 Super is intended to get close enough to the 4090 to be worth considering," - guru3d source 3. That was ambitious. The price difference means it's worth considering, but performance wise they are in entirely different classes. E2: Ultrawide would be nice to see on the charts, but that's more work for you guys.

[@unclej3910]

If they would have given the 4080 Super 20GB memory and the performance was ~30-40% better than the 4080, or 30-50% of the way to the 4090,at $999.99 msrp, it would be a much better deal.

[@christopherpatterson7506]

I just upgraded from a 2070 to a 4070ti super 👌. Next to upgrade cpu!

[@Medic47]

My 1080ti FTW3 is still going strong at 2k.

[@Ben256MB]

1080TI is still beast of the pascal architecture GPU's . I saw run 1080TI running Tekken 8 on 4k at 60fps at high settings on UE5 flawless .

[@THEBIGBEEFIS]

I bought a 4080 off a guy for $400 right before this launch

[@thealien_ali3382]

I love U boo boo

[@thealien_ali3382]

Do U love me?

[@domeberlin4480]

than you got the best deal of your life

[@maxtolinepackers252]

I’ll give u $700 for it 😂

[@RiskyZeva]

Ordered 4080s this morning. Going to be a big performance increase over my 1660s and XboxSX

[@reviewforthetube6485]

I dont agree its a good value imo. This is no longer the 1080 days guys. You cant expect more and more technology more hardware, more parts more metal to be the same price every year. Yalls logic is gone and yes you jay you are one of the wordt when it comes to understanding advancements with pricing. If you made them yourself like my mother used to for the motherboards and chips inside of said gpus you may understand the pricing. Even amd stated they lose money on there gpus just to compete. They make money everywhere else. So its that hard even for and to price well. Amd 7900xtx performs like a 4080 super and was the same prufe as the 4080 super. So what each offer it makes sense based on performance so again you cannot expect flagships at lower prices when even amd is losing money trying to set lower prices. Just like they lost money in the consoles with what they did. Then you have the fact nvidia has hardware prioprietary items that will increase peoduction cost. And expect them not to charge a little more? Get ober it and please take some business classes. You are very smart with things you know but sometimes you sound like the kids at 15 conplaining. You should be much more advanced in business and understand cost then a 15 year old. Just saying. Also why tf would the 4080 super come close to the 4090 when the 4090 is 750 dollars morw ans i dont hear you complaining when testing and getting those lol thats like an entire 4070 ti super in price more then the 4080 super and you ainr getring an entire 4070 ti super in performance on top of the 4080 super. Its within 20 to 30fps. And sometimes in 4k its within 10 to 15fps. Sometimes more yes but its not as big of a lead now imo. Its plenty big but for the price yeah the 4090 actually is horrible value. 4080 super I feel isnt just like the 7900xtx I feel isnt.

[@faverodefavero]

Price for this should clearly be 750~800 USD$, but pandemic made nVidia greedy and buyers dumb.

[@nehalmathew7510]

I love the title

[@Steven-ex3ne]

Seems odd not to test the cooling when the performance numbers were so close.

[@marshmallowwolf3976]

Here in Australia a 7900XTX can be had for as little as $1400-1550, while the new 4080 Super is around $1850. Yet they're almost identical in rasterisation performance

[@combatwombat160]

Here in Germany the 4080 Super cards start around 1.100€ and the nicer ones will cost around 1.300€. Still terrible value imho. Rest of the components might be kinda cheap right now for modern standards but a 4K gaming pc will still set you back 3k, which is just Crazy.

[@derekprzybyla5822]

When there is no availability of the 4080 Super at Microcenter, Newegg, and Amazon. Then you have to get the limited number of 4080s that were going quick.

[@puregarbage2329]

I use a 4070 ti to play cyberpunk at 4K 40fps with pt using dlss performance. I see no reason why someone wouldn’t play that way. It looks at least 5x better than regular rt.

[@theoniii]

bought the aero 4080 from a local tech youtuber for 850$ 1 month used a year ago. StayBlessed

[@chienforcer]

I was lucky enough to snag a MSI Expert 4080 Super this morning. Should be here Friday. It looks like an all aluminum Founders Edition.

[@ducatii360]

Let’s go back to the 60 70 80ti and leave it at that, not this bullshit we have now. 50 50s 50ti - 60 60s 60ti - 70 70s 70ti - 80 80s 80ti & 90. Enough is enough!!!

[@robwl96]

Definitely start adding ultra wide fps, some of these screens are pretty much the equivalent to '3-3.5k' pixel counts for 1440p

[@John_1920]

They decided all the letters after the numbers was getting too much, so now the next launch will be a 4100 instead of a 4090ti or 4090 Super.

[@Jason-ir5ig]

With a performance gap that small, Nvidia could have just dropped the price on the 4080 by $200 instead of creating a new card

[@heretic124]

"Black will go with any build" Me who wants to do all white build: 😑

[@willanrac]

I've been kinda ignoring pc building stuff for a while becuase i've been happy with my computer, but then i realized i been running my same cpu since covid... it has been that long.

[@Massacre1080]

Yes please on including ultrawide on the resolution section

[@cyberwaste]

They're charging around $1,300 US for them here in Australia. They just slotted them above the normal 4080 without dropping those prices.

[@iDumble]

Just seen this myself, now I don't know what I'm buying.

[@Picnicrulz]

Yep literally more expensive than standard 4080. Though remember US prices don't include tax like they do here.

[@seabicuit7247]

I bought a 3080ti before the 40 series came out. While i like the slightly lower power consumption of the 4080 super, I can’t imagine upgrading for years. I can’t tell the difference between 1440 and 4k and I’m fine with 60-90 frames. Hopefully the next one I buy down the line will be more reasonably priced, efficient, and has lower power consumption.

[@olivemartini0011]

Hey Jay! I'd love if you would add the MSRP to the game specific charts (maybe under the name of the card?) that way we can see the price next to the performance. Maybe it's just me but it's hard to mentally refer back to the first chart, lol.

[@goldblade84]

My dream setup for the future: 38 - 40 inch 5K Ultrawide that can run at 100 hz. Currently running LG 38" which is just a tad taller than the industry standard for 1440p ultrawides and it's glorious, extra rows in excel, and more immersive in games. I honestly don't know why other companies don't add the extra half in inch or so.

[@TheJordanLp1]

Bought 2 MSI 4080 supers for my wife and I this morning. I really wish i could have gone team red but with vr, driver issues are wayyyyyy too much of a problem

[@Dragoneye2427]

O hear you man as an amd user amd has been drolping the ball with their driver problems.

[@Elvewizzy.]

899 I would be ok with when it comes to the 4080S.

[@danc8097]

"super don't give a f***" had me rolling, great content as always @Jayztwocents at LTX2023 you mentioned a LAN event, how about doing that when you cross the threshold?

[@JJFX-]

So basically just moderately OC your 4080, write "Super Duper!" on it with a sparkly sharpie and call it a day.

[@ciderandthorazine]

ya know, it was a cogent and insightful breakdown of data in spite of how jaded everyone is with these tests at the mo. thumbs-up for that.

[@MakeshiftMartyr]

Watching this wearing my JTC melting plug shirt 😂

[@Kujashin]

if you start including ultrawide numbers, this will definitely be my go to for fps comparisons. I also run a 3840x1600 LG 38GN950

[@clocubed5257]

problem is with shopping for gpus in the uk you struggle to get a founders card and all thats on our market is things like Asus GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER ROG Strix OC White 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics £1,349.99 (incl. VAT) which is $1,714.86 so just isn't viable when in two year something better is out and you card drops in value massively. For the cost of £1200 my friend just got a i9 4070 1080p laptop you can get a pc cheaper than a new gpu that will run everything fine

[@Rookblunder]

I went yesterday to get the Gigabyte 4080 super. If there was a 7900xtx available, I maybe would of went for that. I'm coming from a GTX 1060 and just starting a new build with the Ryzen 9 7950x3D. It would of been my first time going for a Radeon. Oh a little story: I originally purchased online a i-9 13900k. But when I opened the box, it was something like a i-5 or something. It was definetly not a i-9. Got reimbursed but decided to go in person to purchase and decided on Ryzen.