I MADE A FORGED CARBON FIBER PART (mold and part DIY)

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JBellz

JBellz

Күн бұрын

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@nickallain
@nickallain 5 жыл бұрын
"I put extra hardener in it so that it's extra thick" - this logic is not sound. As a chemical reaction, you want the ideal ratio. Adding more hardener can actually make it less hard.
@stevemccormick4938
@stevemccormick4938 5 жыл бұрын
While I agree extra hardener doesn't make it thicker, Polyester resin can be catalyzed from 1.0 to 3,0 percent to adjust the cure time for temperature. Epoxy is not adjustable by ratio. The real question is why use carbon with polyester or carbon for the mold.
@jacktheoburley
@jacktheoburley 5 жыл бұрын
hay Nick. spot on it wont make it thicker. what I think he is referring to is that it will cure faster, reducing the resin running. Steve only reason to use polyester would be to save money... carbon may be used if you are temperature curing the part. this is due to thermal expansion of the part and the mold.
@FragBenitez
@FragBenitez 5 жыл бұрын
So for small parts, its not possible to use carbon fibre with poliester resin?
@bradleysr
@bradleysr 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevemccormick4938 carbon for the mold: free stuff. nobody paying this shit him self uses carbon fibre for the mould (of such a non critical part).
@ultralinx200
@ultralinx200 4 жыл бұрын
@@FragBenitez you can use polyester resin with carbon fiber. Its just personal preference i guess, depending on what you re making
@bruces12
@bruces12 5 жыл бұрын
THAT WAS AWESOME!! The mold making process was very straightforward and for most DIY guys would be possible. The fact that you took it all the way to the finished product was even better because no one had to guess what it would look like. Someone below commented "why not use fibergalss as the mold backing"...and I thought the same thing. Especially since fiberglass will harden the same as carbon fiber but be less expensive. I would ignore the "this not true forged carbon fiber" comments because all you're doing is going for the look. You're putting it on a motorcycle engine for crying out loud...not the interior or your Lamborghini to drive your super model girl friend around like some of the other commenters are surely doing (yeah, sure)!!
@bewernia
@bewernia 5 жыл бұрын
Why make the mold from carbon fiber? Wouldn't fiberglass be cheaper?
@8145dwerdna
@8145dwerdna 5 жыл бұрын
It would, but it wouldn't be as strong or last as long.
@JTECH7766
@JTECH7766 5 жыл бұрын
Glass moulds last fine if you do them right. Using carbon fibre is just a waste.
@SurfTheStreets01
@SurfTheStreets01 5 жыл бұрын
@@8145dwerdna hmmm not true
@8145dwerdna
@8145dwerdna 5 жыл бұрын
Then explain and give reason as to why. It's a known fact carbon is much stronger of a material than fiberglass.
@Mtrhd0024
@Mtrhd0024 5 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the reason he made this mold from carbon fiber is he didn't have fiberglass. And since this is a very small mold, it doesn't really use much carbon. Carbon prices have come waaayyy down compared to a few years ago. BUT, there is actually a reason that many molds are made from carbon fiber. When you're creating large parts which will be cured in an autoclave, you must make the molds from carbon. The rate of thermal expansion is different for carbon fiber and fiberglass, so if you make your mold from fiberglass and then lay it up in carbon fiber, you may have problems with the parts. But this probably would not have been a problem with this small part. There is no appreciable difference in the strength or durability of fiberglass when used in a mold. Carbon fiber is stronger for a given weight (which is what makes it so popular for lightweight applications) but fiberglass can be made just as strong. It will simply weigh more, but this is not a concern when making a mold.
@petarz9029
@petarz9029 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why all the hate in the comments, he gave us a good breakdown of the process, even leaving in the part where he messed up the flange so that someone watching could avoid that issue... thanks for the video dude.
@SuperYellowsubmarin
@SuperYellowsubmarin 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! I work in the composites industry and people will over analyze why they can't do that, you just did in a couple days. Thanks for sharing !
@justinmurphy2227
@justinmurphy2227 5 жыл бұрын
Why? WHY? wHy? WHy? whY??? WHYYYY??? wHy? (etc...etc...e-fucking-tc!) No matter how many of you ask it and no matter how many different ways you do, how about simply because..... "This effing cool ass KZbinr (not any of you NoTuber's) wanted to and did!" What is wrong with all of these miserable people? I am sitting here at 4am because I can't sleep. Why? Because I am recovering from my 3rd spinal fusion and I'm in an extreme amount of pain but yet I can see the excitement and joy JBellz here is getting from doing something he is obviously enjoying and his energy alone made me forget about my pain! To everyone that took the time to type out all the hateful uninspiring shit, I'm so sorry it didn't ease all your pain(s). I'm guessing you all live a worse life that me (I also have not been able to work in 2.5 years....this hurts a LOT too BTW) because to sit down and methodically point out faults that I couldn't have found in 1000 years, is an OBVIOUS indicator that your pain scale must be an 11 out of the possible 10! I didn't care 2 flying fooks if it was called forged or molded.....and what is "moulded"? Are you so self absorbed you had to include "u" into our word "mold"? LOL! I believe this was this gentleman's first time at this as well. If so, holy hell, I can't wait to watch more because I have some parts that I would like to make some molds of. I love that you went for it and chose to use a more permanent part to cast from instead of the floppy, few uses and you're done, silicone molds I'm use to seeing. Plus, silicone isn't cheap. Ok, Ok, OKKKKK! I could go on finding all the positive things I got from this video. I'm glad I don't read the comments first because I would have never had thought this video would have been as great as it was!!!! Thanks sir!
@socialghost4400
@socialghost4400 5 жыл бұрын
Wow okay, the guy made a helpful how-to video with the best intentions and all the comments are all about “this is a mold and not forging” ...really guys!? ...this look is called “forged carbon fiber” it has nothing to do with forging the parts, that’s just what the look is called! OP: I think you do a great job at explaining the process in a way that’s easy to follow and understand. So thank you for the upload and for providing links to the products used in your video. 👍
@bvcxzgt5451
@bvcxzgt5451 5 жыл бұрын
He did a decent job in some aspects. However, supporting the wankers trying to pass off "forged carbon" as something other than the cheapest and lousiest way to use carbon is not something we should be expected to tolerate. Lambo and others need to be called out for these lies.
@maserukururu4837
@maserukururu4837 5 жыл бұрын
@@bvcxzgt5451 have you send them a letter yet?
@drifterx007
@drifterx007 4 жыл бұрын
That was crazy how easy it was..just time consuming. Can't wait to start making my own parts too. Thanks for the share!
@arthurmorales3670
@arthurmorales3670 5 жыл бұрын
Where'd you get the chopped fiber? Just cut it yourself? This part is a cover, no need to be super strong, its just for looks. I dont see why people are complaining it's not truly forged lol he said it in the video. Its just for looks and it looks perfect
@wtfftw24
@wtfftw24 5 жыл бұрын
You can chop it with a mini robot for kitchen
@OkammakO
@OkammakO 5 жыл бұрын
Just search google for "chopped carbon tow". Lots of composites supply houses will sell you the stuff, pre-chopped to accurate lengths.
@Koru-Health
@Koru-Health 5 жыл бұрын
www.venomcarbon.com
@772777777777777
@772777777777777 5 жыл бұрын
Good frist attempt...I would recommend when making the part apply a thicker expoy coat let it almost be tacky... also I get a old blender and mix the carbon with expoxy in blender good then add harder after blending it..the roll this dough out into a sheet of wax paper ie similar to a DIY preg preg but uses chopped fiber .freeze it for 1-2 h this will give u a longer working time... then apply in mold several layers then vaccum bag part no need for carbon fiber back up
@Puzzicanello
@Puzzicanello 5 жыл бұрын
But doing so you're not gonna see the full carbon sheet, are you?
@gabedebaltz490
@gabedebaltz490 5 жыл бұрын
blended carbon with resin is not prepreg. You guys are doing diy nonsense. chopped or "minced" strand matt being slathered with resin is not prepreg.
@772777777777777
@772777777777777 5 жыл бұрын
@@gabedebaltz490yes prepreg required a special resin also a autoclave chamber ect. WE know that... we are discussing way to recreate the appearance and texture and look of forged carbon fiber which was developed jointly by Lamborghini and Callaway. If you ever watch the how they make parts they a blended woven carbon fiber mixture that is then roll out in a sheet then made into a pre peg sheet and then use die-cast mold...and press or vaccum formed into place and autoclave it.
@gabedebaltz490
@gabedebaltz490 5 жыл бұрын
@@772777777777777 Exactly the issue. Do not call it something it is not. The "forged" moniker is due to the process of extreme pressure both the press and the autoclave pushing and pulling pressure. This is casting. Calling something forged gives the impression that your "case cover" might survive a crash better than it will. I think it is a pretty part and he is learning a fun skill but this is how you ruin the reputation of certain things.
@772777777777777
@772777777777777 5 жыл бұрын
Lamborghini and Calloway trademark a process " forged carbon fiber" The word forged is gimik....made up trademarked nonsense word for a process which is "basically " woven carbon fiber and other composite mixtures pressed in to mold and vaccum bag in a autoclave oven to cure. There is no forged or forging of parts
@battleaxebob45
@battleaxebob45 4 жыл бұрын
this is to forged carbon fiber, what a vinyl wrap is to regular carbon fiber.
@Cbegnaud
@Cbegnaud 4 жыл бұрын
I work on carbon fiber and fiberglass daily for the airforce. And as a hobby. My suggestion (2 cents) would be after you lay up the part vacume bag it and it will eliminate most all voids. Maybe even do resin infusion for the least amount of resin. Great looking part though.
@LintRoller86
@LintRoller86 3 жыл бұрын
best video on youtube on this topic. thanks. i feel confident remaking some parts now
@pigradar8481
@pigradar8481 5 жыл бұрын
The amount of bugs I saw in the first minute of this video gave me anxiety.
@rustystepp
@rustystepp 5 жыл бұрын
Just a DIY tip. You can use hairspray in place of PVA...much cheaper. You can also use masking tape around the edge of the "part" and trim the shape of the said part...transfer said masking tape to foam board and cut for a flange.
@dah_pizza_boi5965
@dah_pizza_boi5965 5 жыл бұрын
Or Elmer's glue ,aka pva glue
@WereAllThatBored
@WereAllThatBored 5 жыл бұрын
For the people calling this click bait. Lamborghini and a golf club manufacturer made up the term "forged carbon". Its basically the same thing JBelz just made, minus the extreme pressure used by the manufacturers.
@rnkp_des
@rnkp_des 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, maybe he wrong when he said "forged" but, man!! Can you just focus on what the real thing that this man try to do. It's the most important thing more than his false when he said it was "forged"
@MaSoN24h
@MaSoN24h 5 жыл бұрын
He knows its not real forged he said it near the start of the video he said he was just going for that Forged look
@dewaynebeard5324
@dewaynebeard5324 5 жыл бұрын
Looks great, thank you for taking the time to show us the steps.
@ianholmen888
@ianholmen888 5 жыл бұрын
“Forged” lol
@NewtonInDaHouseYo
@NewtonInDaHouseYo 5 жыл бұрын
To everybody commenting that this is not „real“ forged carbon fibre: You do realize that „forged carbon fibre“ is just a fancy marketing name for „cheap quasi-isotropic randomly oriented short carbon fibre reinforced plastic“, right? Its all about the looks, guys and girls ... nothing more. The author did a pretty good job replicating that look in my opinion. Oh, and carbon fibre moulds are sometimes used instead of glass fibre moulds because the thermal expansion coefficient is the same for the mould and the part (important if curing occurs at high temperature). Dr.-Ing. F. out.
@traceycopeland6922
@traceycopeland6922 5 жыл бұрын
@@NewtonInDaHouseYo incorrect...Forged means it is pressed into mold. Lamborghini chasses are forged carbon and are heat pressed into molds.
@NewtonInDaHouseYo
@NewtonInDaHouseYo 5 жыл бұрын
It‘s nothing more than a sheet moulding compound which has been around for ages. „Forged“ suggests some superior mechanical properties which it clearly has not. „Forged carbon“ is a manufacturing process that is well suited for medium volume production with short cycle times. And it’s comparably cheap. However, compared to traditional prepreg and RTM (resin transfer moulding) carbon composites it‘s mechanical properties are way lower. As I said, it’s mostly about the looks ...
@mattmoilanen3813
@mattmoilanen3813 5 жыл бұрын
@@NewtonInDaHouseYo You are correct that this is NOT a forging in any way. But you are incorrect that there is such a thing as forged carbon fiber. A forging is created when a material is compressed enough to rearrange its molecular structure. That doesn't happen unless carbon becomes a diamond under extreme pressure heat and time. This dork wanted a fancy name for a simple carbon fiber layup for clickbait. And I was so dumb that I gave him a view just to tell him he's full of s**t. Ya I'm dumb.
@deadprivacy
@deadprivacy 5 жыл бұрын
@@NewtonInDaHouseYo TRUE "FORGED " CARBON IS AUTOCLAVE PRESSURED, AND OFTEN USES NON EPOXY RESINS SUCH AS PEEK. ITS WAY WAY STRONGER THAN RESIN LAYUP UNLIKE HOW YOU SUGGEST. ITS USED FOR F1 SUSPENSION ARMS AND HANS DEVICES.
@user-eu1om4mk7z
@user-eu1om4mk7z 5 жыл бұрын
I skinned the interior dash pieces for my sti and it was such a pain. I am differently going to be trying this. Great video. Liked, saved and subscribed.
@4gedcarbon537
@4gedcarbon537 4 жыл бұрын
J D hey JD....I have Wrx and am tired of trying to find forged carbon pieces for it...thinking of making some. Really want the look, want real carbon and more than a vinyl wrap.
@thebncustom
@thebncustom 4 жыл бұрын
People here sayin it’s not forged.... yes it’s moulded but it still looks good and do it’s function
@Rich77UK
@Rich77UK 5 жыл бұрын
I am not sure i like the look of the chopped CF but kudos for not just covering it on a single layer and resin or vinyl! Nice mould making used as well.
@newfork_city5216
@newfork_city5216 Жыл бұрын
you're a real one for posting this video imma start adding some parts on my bike too
@johnsurteess8406
@johnsurteess8406 4 жыл бұрын
Dude Nice job , Well done
@jerryinman6636
@jerryinman6636 5 жыл бұрын
Why carbon for your mold instead of fiberglass? Much cheaper and still very rigid
@lluciferl9276
@lluciferl9276 5 жыл бұрын
Jerry Inman complete light weight
@jvboy56
@jvboy56 5 жыл бұрын
@@lluciferl9276 why does the mold need to be light weight?
@oliverscorsim
@oliverscorsim 5 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is anyone who does this on a high level sees this guy knows nada. First off we use s glass its much more stiff also we never use poly resin for a mold or a strong light carbon part. This isnt forged at all in any way.. You even layed the weive in a not very strong way let alone light... You didnt even vac it... The outer layers are the most critical to strengthen so the chop on the outside is not a strong idea at all... This doesnt have to cost much money but you gotta use your engineering brain. Worst your making it seem like you know something and furthering the availability of junk in the motorcycle community for profit... Your also very obviously very green to composites im pretty sure if you drop the bike these will crack let alone tighten the bolts abit too much since you forgot to add those metal sleeves in the part.. Ill give you a hint the factory one is a composite thats well made see how they have these sleeves? That covers the biggest of this but theres so much more so wrong here go to your local community college and take a boat building class it wont teach you alot but atleast youl learn the basics and you dont like your gel was too soft when you did that lay up. You can see carbon poking through on the part side because the resin you put on it had thinners in it you want the gel to be tacky not soft and sticking to your glove.. Sooooo much wrong just please go inform yourself and stop putting out shit. Someone who knows wayyyyyyyy more about all this. Oliver
@BlackTownie999
@BlackTownie999 5 жыл бұрын
@@oliverscorsim When I saw him making the mold out of carbon, I'm here having a full brain aneurysm trying to figure out why, I have watched more than a dozen videos from boat builders airplane builders, hot rodders, and bike builders..I have zero first hand experience, mainly cause I'm too poor to afford the time and materials to do what I would want to do.... As he was chopping up that pretty carbon I almost cried...it would have made a pretty Engine cover for my Lincoln...Or Trunk lid, doors, fenders...Anything but as junk used in a mold....
@bvcxzgt5451
@bvcxzgt5451 5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackTownie999 He probably didn't have any glass around. No reason at all to waste that carbon other than ease of use. Ultimately it is no more a waste of carbon than that incredibly weak part he made. If he got a part that looks the way he wants it to, and if he can get it mounted to the bike without it cracking around the bolt holes, then fine. If he can find dupes to buy it, fine. Personally I almost gagged at the appearance of it, but that's why it won't be on my bike.
@samdoesthefunstuff7122
@samdoesthefunstuff7122 5 жыл бұрын
F the haters man, you did good work here! don't quit keep going!
@UisamG
@UisamG 5 жыл бұрын
Sick work! Congratulations! Regards from Argentina.
@MyFirstYoutubeHandle
@MyFirstYoutubeHandle 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful looking part. Awesome work, keep learning!
@30feetup52
@30feetup52 3 жыл бұрын
My dad molded one for my yz out of 6 tubes of JB weld. That was 20 years ago and it’s still on my bike
@jishimoari
@jishimoari 5 жыл бұрын
I like this look, this is briliant!
@pistolpete5805
@pistolpete5805 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible patience and craftsmanship....... awesome stuff
@haydentakara4369
@haydentakara4369 5 жыл бұрын
It’s thanks to Lamborghini that people call it “forged” carbon fibre
@bvcxzgt5451
@bvcxzgt5451 5 жыл бұрын
That's a nice name for something that is in no way a forging process. Sounds better than, "we are using the chepest carbon fiber molding process out there, and it's weak, but you'll buy it because it is carbon."
@frankiewalnuts
@frankiewalnuts 5 жыл бұрын
IT's just carbon fibre chop
@DRAGMASTER29
@DRAGMASTER29 5 жыл бұрын
lambo uses a press to make the forged carbon fibre so they use less epoxy and there for its lighter
@bvcxzgt5451
@bvcxzgt5451 5 жыл бұрын
@@DRAGMASTER29 I understand that. The results would be better than this simple wet chop layup shown here, but still awful compared to proper carbon fiber work.
@DRAGMASTER29
@DRAGMASTER29 5 жыл бұрын
@@bvcxzgt5451 in this case yes, i prefer the optic of normal carbon fibre too but hey as long as it makes him happy i guess thats okay. I worked with prepeg and wet carbon in the past.
@hc8714
@hc8714 4 жыл бұрын
Super like the "not how you do it part", without you showing I am going to do the same way!
@josuenavarrosoriano6104
@josuenavarrosoriano6104 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job man! 👏👏
@GL0BETREKKER
@GL0BETREKKER 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome work! Really cool of you to show the moulding process!
@clouduos
@clouduos 4 жыл бұрын
Great job man 👍👏 love it
@thecryptocrusade3252
@thecryptocrusade3252 6 ай бұрын
Hey @JBellz, part looks great and so does the mold. Did you use carbon to create the mold because you had a lot of carbon or because its cheaper ?
@OhCrapItsJimmy
@OhCrapItsJimmy 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! I like your style.
@aight5420
@aight5420 5 жыл бұрын
Yoo that looks sick!
@Demoni696
@Demoni696 5 жыл бұрын
I dig the creativity and love the idea of doing something unique... However that is the carbon equivalent of chop strand fiberglass not forged carbon. You need to use a 2 piece mold, pressure and heat to make true forged carbon. Looks cool don't get me wrong, just a facsimile of the real thing.
@mafracao
@mafracao 5 жыл бұрын
"true forged carbon"... i wonder that that is.... Various industries has been curing carbon fiber parts in autoclave ovens for more than 40 years but now, for some random reason, people want to call it "forged carbon". Others, even more misinformed by marketing gimmicks, calls "forged carbon" those finished parts where there are pieces of carbon fiber randomly spread thru the out layer, even claiming that's stronger than "regular carbon fiber". No, it's not. A key part to work with carbon fiber is to know how to benefit from the direction of the fibers, and how each tension direction helps to make the part stronger in the way you need it to be. The "forged carbon fiber look" is achieved by using leftover material, usually small trim pieces that would go to the trash. Now this leftovers are being used for aesthetic purposes and they still charge more for a part made of it. Genius.
@bvcxzgt5451
@bvcxzgt5451 5 жыл бұрын
@@mafracao It is worse than that. What Lamborghini is callind "forged carbon" is just using a slurry containing carbon fibers and basically pressing that in a two-part mold. It is more like glass fiber reinforced injection molding. Quite possibly the worst way to use carbon, aside from this fake version of that that doesn't even apply pressure.
@jb3704
@jb3704 4 жыл бұрын
I was really sceptical when the video started, but i must say it looks pretty good! I like the visual texture of the graphics. It doesn't look like the normal criss-cross look of carbon fiber. Great job! 👏👏
@Tierone1337
@Tierone1337 2 жыл бұрын
This is forged carbon not the regular carbon fiber weave everyone is use to
@OneMoreProd
@OneMoreProd 7 ай бұрын
Well done mate
@pmm4177
@pmm4177 2 жыл бұрын
I think ive just had a crisis in my pants 😬 That looks awesome bro! Sick bike too, love it
@ramtornado
@ramtornado 5 жыл бұрын
you need to do two sided mold to fit your motor inner parts its seams it will not sit in perfect snug on the bike those parts are made best using double sided mold use silicone for the other side
@Kirkorr123
@Kirkorr123 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job making that part.
@jb3704
@jb3704 4 жыл бұрын
...reading all the replys i was thinking, Perhaps make a 2 part mold and pressure the carbon fibre inbetween, can maybe use a big table bench set-up for keeping it under pressure for 24 hours old the good old fashion way with with 4 to 6 50kg wheight plates on it
@callumbigc
@callumbigc 5 жыл бұрын
not sure why this is on my recommened page. but it was awesome and got you a sub!
@11green11
@11green11 5 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful 😭 excellent/quality work 👍😎
@franknvett
@franknvett 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome job Awesome video
@GarrettCzarnik
@GarrettCzarnik 5 жыл бұрын
Curious how this is “forged”? This is just a wet lay up of a mold. Additionally, even if one found a way to forge a carbon composite, it wouldn’t make the mechanical properties any better. Oem part is probably far stronger but I’ll agree that the chopped finish looks great! Just don’t show it off to anyone who knows composites 😬
@mehdidamfs3112
@mehdidamfs3112 5 жыл бұрын
yeah he just made a "forged carbon" look piece , not a real one . and he did replace something made of plastic so the strength isn't a concern
@robboramone8553
@robboramone8553 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make your moulds out of fibreglass it will be more cost-effective and easier
@tonyceja2466
@tonyceja2466 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! That looks so sick man! look forward to seeing the other parts
@sanderlunde5431
@sanderlunde5431 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, ill defenitely use this on my bike🤘🤘
@AnorexicPandas
@AnorexicPandas 5 жыл бұрын
this was an awesome video. very cool. might try it out myself to get the forged carbon look on some parts. I get that forged carbon is the aesthetic and that this doesn't come from a billion dollar factory process unlike most of this comment section
@johndelano7925
@johndelano7925 2 жыл бұрын
Although I have never spray gel coat I never had luck brushing it on either. In due time I will get the sprayer and try that method
@skiboss2296
@skiboss2296 5 жыл бұрын
Get a harbor freight vacuum pump 90$ and you will be able to get some really good results with it. If you vacuum it you will also get stronger parts than a open air mold, and lighter parts too.
@anomamos9095
@anomamos9095 5 жыл бұрын
Forged as in forgery? The thing about making parts like this is the inside is often more important than the outside!
@matjeay7224
@matjeay7224 2 жыл бұрын
for the part process..do you used gel coat for the first layer? or do you just used epoxy?
@pmm4177
@pmm4177 2 жыл бұрын
Do those engine covers actually hold oil and fluid in or are they just added protection for the engine case?
@FragBenitez
@FragBenitez 5 жыл бұрын
Thats fucking sick man, congrats on the build and thanks for the video and insights
@Qgal5kap123
@Qgal5kap123 5 жыл бұрын
The bigger the glob, the better the job!
@hermierocks2
@hermierocks2 5 жыл бұрын
That's very creative of you! 👍👍
@DrVinylBcn
@DrVinylBcn 5 жыл бұрын
Great job, like, and subscribed
@bvcxzgt5451
@bvcxzgt5451 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, your first flange's direction was fine. You just needed to make the flange flush with or angled outward from the part. The perpendicular flange you did is pretty common, but it is nearly impossible to avoid an area in the corner that has too low a fiber content. OK if you have to, but running the flange in the direction the part is already going just makes it easier. You just have to know where to cut the part away from the flange, so leave a tiny, tiny lip where the flange is very slightly wider than the part; just enough to see where to cut.
@moongoon66
@moongoon66 5 жыл бұрын
That part turned out great! To make it look even better I’d invest in a WichiTech composite repair system. You can put the part under vacuum and get cleaner parts.
@EZ-D-FIANT
@EZ-D-FIANT 5 жыл бұрын
Or u could build an autoclave for less then £200 if your smart enough! Do you work for whatever company you just mentioned, how much is their system, what size parts can it accommodate?
@moongoon66
@moongoon66 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t work for that company. We just use their products. I’m not sure how much they cost tho lol
@nickferraina9860
@nickferraina9860 Жыл бұрын
How was your clearances inside? I’m curious if you had rubbing issues
@wesley7910
@wesley7910 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Exactly what i came for. Dont listen to the other comments
@gabegarza6780
@gabegarza6780 3 жыл бұрын
You showed where to get the carbon fiber and resin kit, what website for the rest: gel coat, PVA film and paste? Thanks
@myrbs13
@myrbs13 5 жыл бұрын
Being a metal work forged is very different. But im into carbon and make carbon fiber welding hoods. That could be a cool look on the hoods!
@anidiotinaracingcar
@anidiotinaracingcar 3 жыл бұрын
Did you weigh it and compare it to the original part? It looks like you don't need that many layers
@mlinecomposites1
@mlinecomposites1 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s funny on the comments, so many critical comments, do it like this, do it like that, what are u doing!!! It’s not called this!!! 😂😂😂😂 If it’s your first time making a part sometimes this is the way it goes, he’ll get better along the way, sometimes it takes time, the part isn’t even that critical, it’s just a cover
@stevemann6082
@stevemann6082 5 жыл бұрын
this isn't a forging process its a moulding process.
@jacobfalk4827
@jacobfalk4827 5 жыл бұрын
Forging is a manufacturing process involving the shaping of metal using localized compressive forces. The blows are delivered with a hammer or a die.
@jobbzh3810
@jobbzh3810 5 жыл бұрын
forged look they mean i guess..
@rionmotley2514
@rionmotley2514 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobfalk4827 forged carbon is a thing... 2000psi in a press, couple hundred degrees... it's really hot isostatic pressing, but close enough for dialectic appropriation. THIS, however, is just a wet layup with chopped carbon. Which totally defeats the point of carbon. o.o
@jacobfalk4827
@jacobfalk4827 5 жыл бұрын
Eugene Motley Interesting! What form is the carbon in when it’s forged like that? I’m curious to see what those parts look like and what their applications are. I just pulled that definition from google to give people a textbook definition of what forging actually is.
@rionmotley2514
@rionmotley2514 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobfalk4827 it's called "forged carbon" as a trade name but it's basically a thermoset polymer (epoxy) like you get with prepreg, but it's chopped fiber. The pressing makes the fibers flow with the resin creating a grain structure and providing some alignment for carrying loads through the bulk material better. You wind up with a part about half the weight of aluminum, but equal strength, and slightly higher stiffness. Wewt.
@brianpreston8483
@brianpreston8483 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use a mold release and use liquid urethane and trim accordingly?
@TE_53349
@TE_53349 7 ай бұрын
theres normal carbon fibre (that you have that stretches and frays) then theres a pro finish carbon that doesnt stretch or fray. recommend using the pro finish carbon if you plan on making more parts
@goldap0987
@goldap0987 4 жыл бұрын
nice job broi its very informative 👌👌👌💪💪💪💪💪💪💪 pinoy watching from DOHA QATAR
@hotactioncustoms7008
@hotactioncustoms7008 5 жыл бұрын
awesome video! yeah I was nervous thinking to my self there aint no way hes gonna get that part out with the way you had the first flange lol. Looks awesome dude good job making mold is so easy its fun!
@dariozanardelli4806
@dariozanardelli4806 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work, mate but i have a question: what about the screw casing? My compliments for your bike by a Ducatista!
@josephbauer9052
@josephbauer9052 4 жыл бұрын
A tip when cutting carbon fiber. Tape it first. This will prevent it from fraying on you later.
@abudhabi5111
@abudhabi5111 Жыл бұрын
Do you need to use the carbon that’s not chopped or can you just use chopped
@666skyshadow
@666skyshadow 5 жыл бұрын
I like the look. keep it up
@dspecgsx
@dspecgsx 5 жыл бұрын
That is not how you do Forged Carbon Fiber. It's a forged "look" and thats all.
@jerryinman6636
@jerryinman6636 5 жыл бұрын
dspecgsx he says that in his video
@dspecgsx
@dspecgsx 5 жыл бұрын
@@jerryinman6636 agreed but maybe he should change the title. It's misleading.
@Marcustrismegistus
@Marcustrismegistus 5 жыл бұрын
dspecgsx. Bro chill. If you don’t like it carry on. The part came out looking badass. Besides it’s just a cover that was molded from plastic. It pretty sure the forged look cover he made is stronger bc of the last CF layer.
@dspecgsx
@dspecgsx 5 жыл бұрын
@@Marcustrismegistus obviously you do know know the true benefits of Forged Carbon otherwise you would not of made your comment.
@Marcustrismegistus
@Marcustrismegistus 5 жыл бұрын
dspecgsx. Yeah I do. It was invented by Lamborghini and nasa. But in the end nasa pulled out. Lamborghini only uses it for trip pieces bc it’s strength is nowhere near carbon fiber layered sheets. This is why nasa pulled out bc they cannot use it in heavy load applications. Lamborghini only uses it on trim pieces bc originally they wanted to make their a arms out of the forged carbon but it was unsuccessful due to forged carbon and carbon fiber have different strength characteristics. Again you don’t have to be a dick. If you don’t like what the gentlemen is doing with his forged version of forged carbon carry on.
@mickcoomer9714
@mickcoomer9714 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Especially the name.
@gamercoolapple1
@gamercoolapple1 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this thank you dont let the comments get to you keep it up as you said for looks i was wondering how to achieve this look myself
@johno9507
@johno9507 5 жыл бұрын
What's the weight difference between the original part and the carbon part?
@hwntwww
@hwntwww 5 жыл бұрын
Forging?
@FaiziGroops
@FaiziGroops 5 жыл бұрын
I think if he use infusion process the final product can be more rigid n nice look😍😍
@ajhartmanaero
@ajhartmanaero 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you caught your flange setup mistake! I was watching along and just thinking the mold would lock on with the negative draft angle.
@solid2713
@solid2713 5 жыл бұрын
Jesse James needs to see this video
@ArtyomGalstyan
@ArtyomGalstyan 4 жыл бұрын
What if you mix that with glass fiber next time? Or coloured kevlar fibers?
@comfort_in_discomfort
@comfort_in_discomfort 5 жыл бұрын
Came out great. I think I'll find use for this on lots of projects. I like seeing these from start to finish, along with the mistakes. Sub'd.
@markgiles8527
@markgiles8527 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the chopper carbon fibre have been enough on its own to make the part? You added another layer of carbon fibre cloth. Did you have to do that?
@JohnJxxRAMBOxx
@JohnJxxRAMBOxx 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you get your resin and other supplies? What products do you use for this project? Thanks
@d3tach3d
@d3tach3d 5 жыл бұрын
how are you going to get the accuracy for a good mating surface with the case cover?
@patrickbuttimer1
@patrickbuttimer1 4 жыл бұрын
When you were making this.. Was the chopped up pieces of carbon just the normal weave just chopped up into little pieces?
@joshg4312
@joshg4312 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any specific reason you choose to make the mold with CF and not fiberglass?
@yamaharaptor1896
@yamaharaptor1896 4 жыл бұрын
Hi , you applied two coats of tooling gel coat, did you apply them straight after one another or once the first one dried ??
@austinroberts5255
@austinroberts5255 4 жыл бұрын
I this this video was great, really informing on each step the info was spot on I believe. You showed each product you used and all except the resin. Where did you get the resin?
@henryhuang5845
@henryhuang5845 4 жыл бұрын
great job
@travisrex8631
@travisrex8631 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t want this guy making parts for me.. “don’t worry guys the garage floor is super clean” BAHAHAHA
@ozzy220
@ozzy220 5 жыл бұрын
Travis Rex when I saw him lay carbon on the floor with no gloves with his greasy as hands it gave me anxiety.
@fulleffect79
@fulleffect79 2 жыл бұрын
Did you actually fit it on the bike?
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