JD Vance Accuses 24-Year Army Veteran Tim Walz Of STOLEN VALOR

[@sushibar777]

Does J.D. know that his cult leader is a draft dodger? Which heel does he have those bone spurs in anyway?

[@jaartisjones5713]

Biden did the same thing. Kamala hasn't served either. Just leave this issue on a VP level.

[@kesh862]

@@jaartisjones5713 No, because none of the Democratic ticket is trying to denigrate a veteran's service with bullshit claims. There's only one person who dishonored the service in this election - and it's the draft-dodger-in-chief Trump.

[@thomaswateren3967]

​@@jaartisjones5713 Biden did not do the same thing. Biden is no veteran, but he never paid his doctor to reject him either, like Trump did. Kamala is female. If it was up to republicans females STILL wouldn't even be ABLE to serve. Trump didn't serve because he is a coward and he has used his cowardice to get out of not only militairy service but also during his time in office to get out of war, and isolate the US, disrespect and even vilify true American heroes and patriots, calling them losers for getting caught. It does not matter weather Biden or Harris served, or how well and how long Walz, who did serve, is depicted. Bottom line: Trump and almost all of his political cronies havent served, were too scared, to dumb and to blunt. A true american hero and patriot is one who gives people that have served credit. Trump credits only himself. Itś a disgrace that we, and I blame myself partially for it, are talking about him.

[@thomaswateren3967]

@@jaartisjones5713 ​ @jaartisjones5713 Biden did not do the same thing. Biden is no veteran, but he never paid his doctor to reject him either, like Trump did. Kamala is female. If it was up to republicans females STILL wouldn't even be ABLE to serve. Trump didn't serve because he is a coward and he has used his cowardice to get out of not only militairy service but also during his time in office to get out of war, and isolate the US, disrespect and even vilify true American heroes and patriots, calling them losers for getting caught. It does not matter weather Biden or Harris served, or how well and how long Walz, who did serve, is depicted. Bottom line: Trump and almost all of his political cronies havent served, were too scared, to dumb and to blunt. A true american hero and patriot is one who gives people that have served credit. Trump credits only himself. Itś a disgrace that we, and I blame myself partially for it, are talking about him.

[@kingmoreorless2810]

@@jaartisjones5713 Why did Trump dodge the Vietnam war?

[@carolmay6812]

There's a couch in a deserted basement accusing Vance of stolen velour.

[@hansouth2355]

it is undignified and reeks of desperation on the part of jd to say that of another soldier who has served 24 years...shame on him

[@rodolfo7441]

@@hansouth2355 Well, he’s got a point here. The Harris campaign website quietly removed Walz statements about his rank and involvement in active war zone. It’s just phony.

[@michaelwilliams7400]

@@hansouth2355 sometimes the truth hurts. Tampon Tim mislead people and he should be called out for it. Full stop.

[@HoneyBeeCrafts]

@@carolmay6812 too bad if you had read the full book, you’d have not seen the satire made up by that dude. It’s no where in the book. I borrowed the book a bit ago. Nothing in there about a couch lol. Dissing people or making up stories is very low IQ

[@HoneyBeeCrafts]

@@hansouth2355 he’s saying he lied about his job title. Lied that he went into war. All vets and actives absolutely hate those kind of lies. Jd didn’t about not seeing combat, he didn’t lie about any of his time served. It’s actually a disgrace to lie like waltz did. Jd didn’t lie. Military doesn’t care how long you’ve starved either, it’s against the law to lie about it. It’s classified as stolen valor when he pretended to have a rank a few above him after he got demoted.

[@deborahowens9960]

JD Vance never saw combat he spent 6 months at a desk

[@DOPEDOGTOPDOG]

Waltz is a coward who sent his own men to die in Irak when he dodged like a coward , and he 's been lying about it for the last 20 years !

[@ryrythefryguy4645]

@@DOPEDOGTOPDOG BS. he served 24 years for this country. more than likely more than you did mr couch potato

[@michaelwilliams7400]

@@deborahowens9960 that's untrue. He was regularly in combat zones and received combat pay. Get your facts straight. Sorry that Tampon Tim purposefully mislead the nation, but that doesn't mean you should make up information about another candidate.

[@hughjorg4008]

Trump is *mentally chaotic* , and JD Vance is chaotically weird

[@MayberryDaze64]

And what is Waltz? The man who wants children taken away from their parents?

[@graemeharper765]

@hughjorg4008 by using the word weird it proves your mind is completely controlled by mainstream media. A team of strategists will have literally sat down in a boardroom and decided to try get the word weird out there.

[@blueperry5409]

George Bush Jr. Was air national guard and never faught in Vietnam.

[@gregoryvanikiotis3214]

Bush skirted the Alabama Air National The idiot was AWOL

[@RealTalkWithGaryM]

JD Vance went to Iraq as a public affairs officer. He never saw combat.

[@ronaldrollins1558]

Yes he did with his couch.😆

[@jaybae5850]

​@@ronaldrollins1558his couch name is Ambrosius.

[@antclerfont8478]

Good pointing that out.

[@HenryOManly]

He never lied about it

[@jaybae5850]

@@HenryOManly he falsely claimed "stolen valor" as someone who spent 6 months on the couch vs someone who served for 24 YEARS.

[@ziya695]

The military doesn't ask you to go anywhere, you are told to.

[@bonniemcconnell6500]

JD Vance was Marine CORRESPONDENT, A Newspaper boy!😅 Oh Tim, please bring this up at your campaign rallies!

[@elftax]

JD Vance served long enough to pay for college and left ASAP... it wasnt service, it was a path to free education.

[@hansouth2355]

he opens his mouth to say the stupidest things. he would have been better off not saying anything since getting the vp nod

[@herbertdegruy7187]

And what's his thoughts on "bone spur" trumps military service? " when you live in a glass house, don't throw no stones"

[@SMac86]

Vance: I supported an illegal war blindly, while my opponent had the integrity to take a stand against it.

[@user-ke3lo9ni3g]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😎😎😎😎

[@michaelwilliams7400]

@@SMac86 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@danielangn9]

JD Vance was just a Marine Corps correspondent in Iraq for 6 months , literally a journalist . Vance wasn’t an active soldier there !

[@savageboxing1402]

Tell me what military uses an A.R. 15 in war ?? 🤔

[@Nebarus]

Vance, I love your heartfelt criticism of Trump, calling him "An idiot", "Reprehensible", "A moral disaster" and "Possible America's Hitler"

[@rayparker9163]

He own service men accused him of dropping out because they were deploying. That wasn’t Vance it was his own fellow soldiers.

[@Zer0.-_]

Right wingers always do this. If someone is liberal, their service was invalid. If someone is conservative, their service is more important.

[@sal5604]

His service isn't invalid. His claim to the rank of CSM and his use carrying weapons of war in war is though.

[@Zer0.-_]

​​@@sal5604I will say that this kind of minute detail doesn't matter so much to me when I know he'll fight for the social issues I care about. I'm not going to take the time to research every small detail right wingers will pick apart about him

[@RickyVis]

@@Zer0.-_ No that's what stolen valor is. He claimed to have been in a war when he hasn't. The people that have been raising this issue are men from his own unit.

[@meniacalone2551]

@@Zer0.-_ do you even know what ur talking about?? Lol

[@Bigblunts613]

The Coach VS The Couch

[@justformedeanna2629]

Can we talk about Trump‘s military experience? I’ll wait.

[@michaelwilliams7400]

@@justformedeanna2629 I believe it is the same as Kamala's.

[@paulgarcia1147]

As a veteran Vance should know better. Waltz served honorably more than his time in the military and was eligible to retire. Vance was a military correspondent for goodness sake. Not exactly like an infantryman and Trump was a draft dodger so what the hell are they really trying to say?

[@sal5604]

His argument is not against his service. It is against him using his "combat experience" to push an agenda. Experience he does not have. He may have been a correspondent, but they do embed with combat units on mission. If you're bringing up Trump's draft deferments, I should ask if you voted for Biden. Biden had just as many.

[@Ghost-un6oe]

They're trying to prove that they're idiots, mission accomplished 🤡🤡.

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

@@sal5604 He never said he had combat experience. Find the quote and provide the citation.

[@sal5604]

@@Red1Green2Blue3 It was inferred in his quote related to weapons of war.

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

@@sal5604 So he didn't say that, you made it up. How surprising.

[@scotty9776]

A simple google search shows JD Mandel never saw combat either. Sorry JP Vance ....

[@asianmalaysianable]

In yet another battle of Couch vs Coach, Coach wins.

[@jasonispunk]

The right doesn't want people to retire . Nothing new here

[@victory1261]

JD Vance had a cushy job as a file clerk. He never saw combat. 😂

[@M33K3RZ]

### **J.D. Vance** - **Branch**: U.S. Marine Corps - **Role**: Combat Correspondent - **Service Duration**: 4 years of dedicated service - **Deployment**: Deployed to Iraq, a key combat zone during one of the most intense periods of the Iraq War. - **Combat Experience**: Yes, J.D. Vance was deployed to Iraq, where he was embedded with front-line Marines, documenting and reporting on the harsh realities of combat. His role required him to be in close proximity to military operations, offering him firsthand exposure to the complexities and dangers of warfare. This experience in a high-stakes environment honed his resilience, discipline, and understanding of military life under the pressures of combat. - **Post-Military Career**: After his service, Vance took the lessons and experiences from the battlefield to the halls of academia, earning a law degree from Yale, and later writing the bestselling memoir *Hillbilly Elegy*. His story of rising from a challenging background, serving his country in a war zone, and achieving success in both education and politics is a testament to his determination, grit, and leadership. Vance is now a U.S. Senator, where his decisions are informed by his direct experiences in the military, giving him a unique perspective on national security and veteran affairs. ### **Tim Walz** - **Branch**: Army National Guard - **Role**: Command Sergeant Major - **Service Duration**: 24 years of honorable service - **Deployment**: Primarily served within the United States, focused on domestic missions and state-level emergency response. - **Combat Experience**: No, Tim Walz did not serve in a combat zone during his lengthy career. His role in the Army National Guard involved significant leadership responsibilities, overseeing the training and welfare of soldiers, but his experience did not include deployment to combat environments like Iraq or Afghanistan. Instead, Walz's service was centered around supporting the National Guard’s vital role in domestic operations and state emergencies. - **Post-Military Career**: After his military service, Walz transitioned into politics, where he served as a U.S. Representative and is now the Governor of Minnesota. While his military career was commendable, it lacked the direct combat experience that can provide a deeper understanding of the sacrifices and realities faced by soldiers in war zones. ### **Key Differences**: 1. **Combat Experience**: - **J.D. Vance**: Experienced the harsh realities of war firsthand in Iraq, gaining insights and resilience that only come from being in a combat zone. - **Tim Walz**: While he held a significant leadership role in the National Guard, he did not serve in a combat zone, focusing instead on domestic missions and training. 2. **Roles and Responsibilities**: - **Vance**: His role as a combat correspondent placed him directly in the line of fire, where he documented the bravery and challenges of his fellow Marines, offering him a unique perspective on the true costs of war. - **Walz**: His responsibilities were more centered on leadership and management within the National Guard, ensuring readiness and supporting state-level missions, rather than engaging in combat. 3. **Service Duration**: - **Vance**: Served for 4 intense years in the Marine Corps, marked by his deployment to a combat zone. - **Walz**: Served for 24 years, providing stability and leadership within the National Guard, though without the experience of combat. This comparison highlights J.D. Vance's direct exposure to combat and the intense environment of a war zone, setting his military experience apart from Tim Walz, who served honorably but without combat deployment. Vance’s experiences on the front lines offer him a perspective shaped by the realities of war, giving him unique credibility and insight into military and veteran issues.

[@M33K3RZ]

Quit lying your p****

[@barrymullen5242]

Good advice that JD Vance should heed. He’s no hero.

[@kenny5942]

Vance was shooting photos 🤣he was no “combat veteran” and I am by no means diminishing his service. He knows full well anyone who serves is a veteran because you can be called to serve on the battlefield anytime. I served as well although that was 86-89 and just before the first Iraq War of 1991 thank God. No sane person wants to take life or lose his. The fact that he was a sergeant major speaks volumes this man obtained a nearly unobtainable rank- you can be sure he had the utmost respect everywhere he went!

[@sharijohnson4024]

...seriously Vance proves how stupid he is by accusing Walz when his Presidential candidate avoided serving by claiming he had bone spurs... seriously???

[@KarmaKamala-2024]

Trump told Howard Stern that sexual transmitted diseases were Trump's Vietnam. Street Hoes claim "Stolen Valor"

[@rabukan5842]

Bring it on JD! You're in very dangerous territory here. I am overseas with the military right now. The difference between a Marine in civil affairs and a Sergeant Major of 29 years is 25 years who became a leader in the military. Both were sent overseas to support the troops during wartime, and neither one of them saw combat (orders are orders), but Walz was trained in heavy artillery and sharp shooting and did instruct troops, which is much more combat ready and potentially useful than a paper pusher who guides civilians around the bases. Walz's rank as an NCO is highly commendable and is very difficult to achieve. NCO's are highly regarded by the troops, often over commissioned officers. Walz was a dedicated and impressive NCO leader who then went on to further serve his community as a teacher and principal for 20 years, then became a congressman on the Armed Forces committees, while Vance left the Marines to become a venture capitalist in Silicone valley and serve himself. Needless to say, this brings up many things about the coward Draft Dodger Don. So bring it on JD!

[@Hbr_ed]

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[@Hbr_ed]

Thank you for your service.

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[@jasonharvey8896]

From a guy who doesn't even know his own name, under a guy who dodged the draft and puts down vets, and a guy who can't defend his wife. What a loser

[@labrador761]

As a veteran myself, there’s an unwritten rule about criticizing fellow veterans. You do not question reasons for joining or retiring/separating. You also do not question whether you deployed or not. Some people join at the right time and some people join at the wrong time. That’s how you know that JD is a shit bag Marine. I would never criticize JD for only doing one term. The fact that Walz put on a uniform, and for 24 years served this country it’s something that I never knew that it was ever going to be criticized. Plus he had 24 years in the NG and was eligible for retirement. Plus he was an E-9 he was not going to see any combat. I am in the Air National Guard and have seen lots of members that retire or ETS right before a big change, rotation or even when a new president is in office.

[@anntares172]

Exactly. All service is honorable. Respect to all service members. You don't shame fellow veterans for not resigning another contract, retiring, their MOS, ect.

[@chuckyaruss1627]

Operation Enduring Freedom....i don't get why these lunatics are ignoring this fact. This was war time.

[@walterbackgammon8436]

I’ve never heard of that unwritten rule, and get asked those questions all the time from other vets.

[@nonyobussiness3440]

Stop lying. You’re a scum bag

[@labrador761]

@@walterbackgammon8436 I spoke with a lot of coworker and veteran friends and almost all of them either don’t care or don’t find an issue. As long as you weren’t a lazy dirtbag or an idiot, we tend not to criticize somebody’s commitment to the country. I understand there are a lot of vets that are extremely political (specially to the right) that will be hypocrites and question and criticize Walz solely base on their politics. Nobody shits on Vance for only doing 4 years, nobody shits on him for supporting Project 2025 which will make it harder for disabled veterans to make a claim on the already kind of useless VA, nobody shits on him for having a non combative MOS or anything because he did what 98% of the country doesn’t do, just like Walz. Plus it is revealed that he retired 2 months prior to his unit being notified of the rotation.

[@argophontes]

He "dropped out of the Army" by retiring after 24 years, and the people in his unit encouraged it because he was going to run for Congress and defend veterans. This turd was a "combat correspondent" who never saw combat, so I'm not sure why he wants to draw attention to that...

[@diegojines-us9pc]

he dropped out. after the military wouldn't let him re enlist because of his hearing, vance could have re enlisted, i guess,

[@boydommy2697]

One point that no-one mentioned was that Walz may have had other legitimate reasons for choosing to resign when he did in 2005. Are you aware he sustained hearing damage to the point that his hearing was severely affected and he actually took inner ear surgery in 2005? Do you right wing smear merchants have any idea what happens when you send a deaf soldier into harm's way? It not only risks the life of the soldier with hearing loss but the lives of all the soldiers around that soldier. They need to be able to hear enemies, allies, and commands.

[@tlindsay6687]

Trump is a draft dodger.

[@nathanielgreer2764]

@@tlindsay6687 I wouldn’t hold avoiding Vietnam against a person. It was not a war we should have ever been involved in and the world would be a better place had everyone dodged it.

[@DedrickLucious-eq6jb]

@@nathanielgreer2764 MR. BONE SPURS SEX OFFENDER CONVICTED FELON

[@meniacalone2551]

@@tlindsay6687 so was Muhammad Ali...what's ur point??

[@dannyfrog]

Walz served 24 years in the National Guard. He also has zero bonespurs.

[@bigguavaflyfishing]

the most honorable thing a servicemember could do is continue to fight for their soldiers after they are no longer wearing the uniform. JD is a performative soldier who did it as a resume builder. Walz stayed in for a quarter century then got out and advocated for his Joes when he saw what Iraq was. Walz was trying to save his guys. JD would send his fellow soldiers into the meat grinder in perpetuity if his donors told him to. JD is a blue falcon.

[@threeofeight197]

How come JD Vance isn’t fighting in the military right now! He quit after only 4 years!!! He should be in the Middle East right now!!!

[@KARLMARX56]

Why aren't you?

[@Lywik270]

@@KARLMARX56I am and I agree with @threeofeight197

[@Titan-zn3fs]

​@@KARLMARX56How do you know threeofeight197 is NOT in the military? Did you stalk out their I.D inline and do a background check? 😂

[@threeofeight197]

@@Titan-zn3fs I’m not actually in currently. I was being sarcastic with my comment. I was trying to point out that it’s silly for Vance (who has 4 years) to claim that Walz (who has 24 years) didn’t serve long enough. Either way it’s petty. They both served so they could use the GI bill. Good on em. Many Americans join for that same reason. That and those sweet sweet VA benefits. Let’s quit pretending like it’s because we all needed Iraq to be bombed to keep our freedom.

[@LazyCloud9]

Lying about stolen valor should be a campaign ender. J.D. just hit a new low that even I didn't think was possible 😕

[@abortionisevil]

Shut up, cat lady. Trump is grabbing this country by the p

[@Martinroadsguy]

​@@abortionisevilhe's grabbing your mom by the p and then he'll pay for her abortion.

[@ashleybishop7248]

And here are the facts (which magats never bother to check): Records show Walz officially filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission on Feb. 10, 2005. He had been talking about retiring and running for Congress for a year. Walz retired on May 16, 2005. The Minnesota National Guard told CBS News that Walz's unit - 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery - received an alert order for mobilization to Iraq on July 14, 2005 - two months after Walz retired. Walz left the military at the rank of command sergeant major, one of the top for an enlisted soldier. Personnel file records show that he was reduced in rank months *after retiring, leaving him as a master sergeant for benefits purposes.* Magats tell the dumbest lies - lies that are easily fact checked with actual documents. And something really important: Walz focused on veterans in Congress. Of the 85 bills Walz sponsored over his six terms, nearly half had to do with veterans’ issues.

[@Pdf258]

@@ashleybishop7248 all they have are lies, and those lies spread like wildfire. Thank you for presenting the honest truth. 🇺🇸

[@MK-qm4cx]

He was reduced in rank because he didnt complete the required 2 year course. The Combat Sergeant Major rank was given conditionally upon completion of the course which he did not fulfill. THAT is why he was demoted.

[@bigoranget]

@@MK-qm4cx correct and it’s a technicality. This isn’t a big deal.

[@balla2172]

Do realize, sir. The person that you're vice president for made up bone spurs to dodge the draft, correct

[@MayberryDaze64]

Biden made up teenage asthma to dodge the draft/

[@Samuel-hd3cp]

24 year veteran accused of stolen valour. That's disgusting!

[@PDXMILO]

But but but he once said he carried a weapon of war in war........ which he could have meant to say 'a weapon of war in the service' but said war again. Or didn't add the word 'time', as in a time of war or war time. But nope, these snowflakes just have to insist that was him trying to say he was in combat, even when this was just a comment about gun control.

[@davidanderson-22]

Again. It's okay if Trump dodges serving at all, but a 24-year military career means nothing to them. Remember that, veterans.

[@macroman52]

@@davidanderson-22 of course. Remember the attacks on the candidate who earned a silver star saving a comrade under fire when their candidate spent Vietnam flying planes on the weekends in the Texas national guard. They always attack where they are weakest.

[@hansouth2355]

he shouldn't talk crap about other soldiers

[@brittanya7812]

JD Vance is not a combat veteran. He was in Iraq for 6 months as a Commentary Reporter. Tim Walz served in the Military for 24 years as a Command Sergeant Major and when elected to office was the the highest ranking military official to serve in Congress. I think that is amazing!

[@VileMisanthrope]

@@brittanya7812 You are mostly right. What needs to be clarified is while Walz did achieve Sergeant Major, it seems he didn't retire at that rank. I'm in the military myself and this is what I know.....in order to retire at a rank the member must serve in that rank for a minimum of three years. So that's possibly why his DD-214 (discharge form) potentially lists him as a Master Sergeant which would've been his rank prior to SGM.

[@bronxbomerpito7286]

@@VileMisanthrope well the Minnesota national guard has come out and said he can claim that rank

[@savageboxing1402]

@@bronxbomerpito7286 Tell me what military uses an A.R. 15 in war ?? 🤔 your boy claims there’s weapons of war in our streets lmfaoo !!

[@VileMisanthrope]

@@bronxbomerpito7286 I know. And that's all good to me. I was just mentioning specifics.

[@Murica08]

​@@VileMisanthropeAre you cool with him posing as a combat veteran when he was never sent to a combat zone?

[@water1679]

Please vote to preserve and maintain the dignity of all the soft furnitures in the VP office.

[@VictorLiso]

This comment. Just this comment.

[@entropyachieved750]

But old bone spurs is a true patriot 😂😂😂

[@micahgibbs2939]

This is the guy that is running mate to captain bone spurs. You can't make this shit up.🤣

[@ThePoisonSun]

JD Vance did PR for the Marines. He didn't see any combat.

[@tacen28]

Still went to Iraq

[@orangeguy3314]

​@@tacen28van's could change into the infantry and seen combat, but like five time draft deferent trump. Remember, vans called trump america's hitler in 2016.

[@arkhsm]

@@tacen28 Deserves a medal, the couch deserves the Victoria Cross !!

[@tacen28]

@@orangeguy3314 who is Vans?

[@tacen28]

@@arkhsm typical dem falling for fake news

[@amybond8341]

Walz put in notice 2 months before his unit was notified to go so he can run for office and they left almost a year later.

[@ralphagcaoili7250]

So Vance is right! Waltz didn't spend a day in combat.

[@Priss933]

@@ralphagcaoili7250 Neither did Vance and mr bone spurs was a draft dodger. You really want to go there ???

[@ralphagcaoili7250]

@Priss933 go where? Did I lied to you or something?

[@ralphagcaoili7250]

@Priss933 there is a difference between not seeing combat because you decided to retire the moment a war broke, and not seeing combat because on the Field where you were in the enemy didn't attack.

[@ralphagcaoili7250]

@Priss933 who's mr bone spurs?

[@lkfs55]

JD Vance is lying and is so despicable.

[@blabberer8950]

He keeps calling himself a RETIRED COMMAND SGT MAJOR, which is a flat out lie. He retired at E8, Master Sergeant per his DD214. Period. He keeps calling himself and letting others announce him as a Retired Command Sgt. Maj. Lie! And he damn well knows it!

[@YesJustice]

JD Vance, shut up!! and respect the Veterans Community and their DIGNITY 💯💯💯💯

[@M33K3RZ]

No JD Vance's record in the truth speaks for itself. Never consider yourself virtuous while telling people to shut up and try to stop free speech our first amendment out of existence you Nazi. ### **J.D. Vance** - **Branch**: U.S. Marine Corps - **Role**: Combat Correspondent - **Service Duration**: 4 years of dedicated service - **Deployment**: Deployed to Iraq, a key combat zone during one of the most intense periods of the Iraq War. - **Combat Experience**: Yes, J.D. Vance was deployed to Iraq, where he was embedded with front-line Marines, documenting and reporting on the harsh realities of combat. His role required him to be in close proximity to military operations, offering him firsthand exposure to the complexities and dangers of warfare. This experience in a high-stakes environment honed his resilience, discipline, and understanding of military life under the pressures of combat. - **Post-Military Career**: After his service, Vance took the lessons and experiences from the battlefield to the halls of academia, earning a law degree from Yale, and later writing the bestselling memoir *Hillbilly Elegy*. His story of rising from a challenging background, serving his country in a war zone, and achieving success in both education and politics is a testament to his determination, grit, and leadership. Vance is now a U.S. Senator, where his decisions are informed by his direct experiences in the military, giving him a unique perspective on national security and veteran affairs. ### **Tim Walz** - **Branch**: Army National Guard - **Role**: Command Sergeant Major - **Service Duration**: 24 years of honorable service - **Deployment**: Primarily served within the United States, focused on domestic missions and state-level emergency response. - **Combat Experience**: No, Tim Walz did not serve in a combat zone during his lengthy career. His role in the Army National Guard involved significant leadership responsibilities, overseeing the training and welfare of soldiers, but his experience did not include deployment to combat environments like Iraq or Afghanistan. Instead, Walz's service was centered around supporting the National Guard’s vital role in domestic operations and state emergencies. - **Post-Military Career**: After his military service, Walz transitioned into politics, where he served as a U.S. Representative and is now the Governor of Minnesota. While his military career was commendable, it lacked the direct combat experience that can provide a deeper understanding of the sacrifices and realities faced by soldiers in war zones.

[@paulgarcia1147]

Vance was correspondent in the Marine Corps. Are you kidding me dude. Waltz served his time honorably and retired. Vance is such a douche bag.

[@mrshawaiianheart]

JD was a pr guy, no "action". He has zero room to criticize anyone.

[@Supersauce88]

Walz lied about his military service this isn’t even a debate it is on record.

[@MrJeffSD]

How?

[@Supersauce88]

@@MrJeffSD We can make sure those weapons of war that I carried in war is the only place where those weapons are at" during a speech to ban AR-15s. However, some have pointed out that Walz has never been deployed to a combat zone, such as Iraq or Afghanistan.

[@metablet8273]

@@Supersauce88 here’s proof he did not from a video back in 2009 that this KZbin channel exposed it shows it towards the end kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZqWhKWae8t5ZtUsi=lmT3cob1c208EWZm

[@Kingnome]

Most military don’t see or involved in “combat”. 10% of all WWII personnel were in combat. Civilians have seen too many “war” films.

[@JeffRyan-q9z]

For a cheeseburger that spent his military career writing and driving

[@Sweeetgal8]

JD Vance speaking to the FIVE people or so that showed up. Way to go JD!

[@nadjabelinda63]

Wow, Donnie Diapers sent a pack of trolls to cause trouble here.

[@KarmaKamala-2024]

All the Pro Trump comments are generated from three sources: 1. Elon Musk AI 2. Russian bots (Putin says it is only their hobby) 3. White individuals who would benefit from Harris policies.

[@johnassal5838]

​@KarmaKamala-2024 Fyi on most platforms the more responses a comment generates the higher the ranking it gets, as well as whatever content its attached to like this video here. By going out of our way to reward the absolute worst and incompetent comments we raise their score in their respective bot or click farm. Meaning by rewarding these shlubs we subvert their own performance metrics and crowd out potentially more effective propaganda generators in favor of worthless cretins we can laugh at. My point is you should look at them as an opportunity not a burden.

[@johnassal5838]

​wait... explain #3. How is it that white dudes will make pro Trump posts if they have something to gain from Harris' policies?

[@michaelshalis3829]

Jd was a journalist in the Iraq war wow what a warrior .Just like the way he portrays himself as a man of the people but in reality is a billionaire lapdog

[@Brickerbrack]

From what they're saying, he wasn't a journalist... he _escorted_ journalists.

[@philliphessel6788]

Of Tim’s 85 legislative initiatives while he served in Congress, about half were directed to benefiting our veterans. Seems to me he made a sound choice of how best he could serve his comrades and our nation.

[@gringoamigo8146]

How is it "stolen valor" when he served in the army for 24 years at various locations across Europe? Vance served. Walz served. Move on and find something else.

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

@@gringoamigo8146 because he’s claiming a rank he never made. That’s what this is about

[@gringoamigo8146]

@@alfarouqaminufor3892 Yeah, he was demoted before he left service. It sounds like they're looking for any excuse to attack Walz. It's really just pathetic that JD Vance would attack his fellow vet. JD Vance bent the knee and stuck his nose up Trump's culo, and threw Tim under the bus.

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

Vance worked in the press office, yet he's pretending like he was fighting. THAT'S real stolen valour.

[@RaymondBlythe]

@@alfarouqaminufor3892 per the BBC quoting the national guard A national guard spokesperson told the BBC that “his rank reverted to master sergeant on May 15th, 2005, for benefit purposes because he did not complete additional coursework at the US Army Sergeants Major Academy. He retired the following day.” So he did serve in that rank.

[@bigoranget]

@@alfarouqaminufor3892 he did make the rank, he couldn’t retire at that rank because he didn’t complete some course. It’s a technicality.

[@manhandler]

He retired 3 months before anyone knew there was a deployment. PLus sargent Majors don't typically fight on the front line, they are planners for their battalion. Shady Vance is a coward and backed out of the VP debate. 24 years is a long time in the army, comparesd to 6 months as a journalist. there is no comparison.

[@3ehahn]

@@Orko99900 news room Vance? What a guy. Took some pencil shrapnel for the team.

[@pamelaburnham1139]

He retired to run for congress before the unit was told of activation!

[@gingerm7800]

And he was already in his 40s.

[@sal5604]

Command staff (CSM's are part) know of any upcoming rotations about a yr out.

[@bryan.h.wildenthal]

Vance never got closer to combat than a PR unit, then quit the military after four years when he was single and 22. And he attacks WALZ for serving TWENTY-four years?! GMAFB! Walz left the military at age 41, with a wife and kid, to run for elected office opposing the war Vance himself now agrees was a horrible mistake!! You're in a hole, JD, stop digging! Nobody "asked" Walz to go to Iraq, you're making shit up! Are ya sure big boss wants ya raising this issue? Lotta kids growing up in small towns like yours and Walz's died in Vietnam because they didn't have a rich daddy get 'em bogus draft-dodging deferments for "bone spurs"! Most were too patriotic to even try!

[@user-nw9ve4sg1r]

You can hate him all you want but he ain't wrong.

[@KarmaKamala-2024]

All the Pro Trump comments are generated from three sources: 1. Elon Musk AI 2. Russian bots (Putin says it is only their hobby) 3. White individuals who would benefit from Harris policies.

[@Pdf258]

@@bryan.h.wildenthal he’s as wrong as a day is long. Cry hard and cope.

[@chrisking1457]

@@Pdf258 lol, you're literally on here coping.

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

He's in the crease between the couch pillows.

[@robbiedubdub]

Vance should have done his research first

[@sal5604]

About what? "Banning weapons of war I used in combat."?

[@kenprice1820]

Tim Walz serve 24 years in the US Army National Guard his (MOS) Military Occupational Skill was Field Artillery one of the Army's Combat Arms that may see Direct Combat. He was awarded the Army Commendation Metal and the Army Achievement Medal. He served time as a Command Sergeant Major E-9 the highest rank a person can achieve as an enlisted person. He retired as a Master Sergeant E-8 because he chose not to reenlist, as a Master Sergeant he would have been in charge of at least 300 Soldiers caring for the well-being and welfare as a leader. Tim Walz served on the house Committee on Veterans Affairs. As a veteran I have the highest respect for this man. If his unit didn't deploy he didn't deploy. JD Vance in his four years of military service was never tasked to be in charge of any Marines or Soldiers expect for himself. The only shot he ever took in combat was from his camera as a Media photographer.

[@ralphagcaoili7250]

And now he is burning the country.

[@bugsy9007]

@@kenprice1820 Tim Walz’s stolen valor scandal is only getting worse and he refuses to answer questions from the press. If he was a Republican he would have stepped down and would already be facing charges. Prosecute Tampon Timmy Walz. Now.

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

@@kenprice1820 one thing false, he failed to meet certain requirements to make E9, the military corrected his DD214 he was never a E9. It’s public information. Even Minnesotas largest newspaper backs this up.

[@vmr6771]

JD Vance story could be summarized as 'Chucky Goes to Washington'. The Couch Lover gives me the creeps.

[@markremy4946]

JD-Let's hear your opinion on Trump's Vietnam service.

[@Russpng]

Did he really say "Do not pretend to be someone you are not"?

[@thorfinsky1427]

How ironical.

[@KarmaKamala-2024]

Projection. Every criticism is truth of themselves.

[@jannjordan3787]

Say what you want about him retiring shortly before his unit deployed to Iraq, but his claim of being a Retired Command Sargent Major is factually inaccurate. His claim about having carried weapons in war is inaccurate too as he only served as support in Italy and not in a real warzone. The man isn't even able to claim to be a Veteran of a foreign war and so be a member of the VFW.

[@markdeckard7651]

Vladimir Futon aka JDVance is like that robot in a sci-fi that they ask "why do people hug" and it short circuits and explodes. 🤖

[@timjoem5703]

Notice the camera angle doesn’t show that he is actually talking to less than a dozen reporters ( who had to be there)

[@thomaswateren3967]

Stolen valor. 23 instead of 25 years. How long did Trump serve again? How bout you Vance?

[@sidgarrett7247]

Anyone who has served can and will tell you that there are tow ways to count time in service, the members way, which will be longer, because we round it off to years, and the military way, which counts years, months and days.

[@thomaswateren3967]

@@sidgarrett7247 And in either of these ways 24 years is too little?

[@nic0072]

Trump failed to show up, he said there was something wrong with his foot. Never did military training.

[@thomaswateren3967]

@@nic0072 Bone spurs yes. Which it turned out he didnt have. Possibly his first recorded lie.

[@jazzyjez]

JD 'Couch' Halms was a photographer for a 6-month deployment and never saw combat. The audacity of this stolen valor 🤡 to judge Walz's service of 24 years. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@killumashotti]

Mf was an E4 judging someone for retiring

[@savageboxing1402]

Tell me what military uses an A.R. 15 in war ?? 🤔

[@hughjorg4008]

Walz was 45 when he filed the retirement papers. Too old to be deployed to any war anyways.

[@killumashotti]

⁠@@savageboxing1402you fool semantics will be the downfall of the second amendment. You pro gun people are so full of it that instead of trying to advocate for some compromise you yell about shit that doesn’t matter. AR15 is the civilian version of a military m16/m4(which multiple militaries around the world use) difference being is one is select fire. Instead of trying to argue over pointless nomenclature you could try finding common ground with anti gun people and maybe in return we could get rid of the NFA

[@kevenclinton4970]

@@jazzyjez walz was playing weekend warrior for 24 yrs.

[@detheroc57]

If walz was in the Army for 24 years and never deployed, then he was definitely trying to get out of deployments.

[@Bboy4life_775]

Facts, same as Trump with his "bones spurs"

[@davidbarry494]

He didn't leave, he retired from the military. He also knew Iraq wasn't involved in 9/11 and there were already inspectors in Iraq not finding weapons of mass destruction. It was a dumb mistake putting in troops.

[@4idhero798]

Vance's couch saw more action than he did in Iraq.

[@hughjorg4008]

From now on, JD Vance is going to be called, *COUCH fooker* Vance. 😂

[@Jmpd1117]

Radar saw more action filming M*A*S*H* than Vance in Iraq.

[@sn4rl277]

But he went to Iraq, and didn't chicken out when called.

[@Jmpd1117]

@@sn4rl277 Vance was an usher in a communications office in Baghdad’s walled-off Green(safest) Zone for all of 6 months. Walz served and rose through the ranks for 24 years, protecting American soil and training American soldiers, before retiring to successfully run for congress. The comparison is laughable.

[@sn4rl277]

@@Jmpd1117 Facts are Waltz ran is running off being a E-9 and he is not. He has for years talked about going to war, which he never did. Vance hasn't lied about his service, but Waltz has many times now.

[@Jmpd1117]

@@sn4rl277 Trump has said he actively avoided going to war in Vietnam and didn’t serve because of the STD’s.The never even a private bone spurs makes any discussion on the subject pointless.

[@b62boom1]

What's with Vance's heavy eye makeup? Is he a secret Rocky Horror fan?

[@johnsmith7140]

IDK. someone should ask him.

[@asdlogician6536]

I was the spouse of an active-duty non-com for over 30 years, and during this period, if the military needed their reservists, they fracking used them-to the point of outrage. If Tim Walz served 24 years and was ready to retire, they probably threw him a master sgt major, a huge parade. Sounds like jd is jealous and supercilious. Swiftboating doesn’t apply here.

[@donnagal569]

Thank you for posting sense and truth.

[@ryrythefryguy4645]

my dad enlisted in the army in 1967. he didnt see any combat, but served until 1970. i dont care what you all say, he served for this country. he had two other brothers who actually was sent out to japan and vietnam, but neither of them saw combat. they still served this country. no one should question whether or not someone who signed up for military if they are a combat veteran or not. they served for this country, period.

[@smaakjeks]

Correct.

[@BETTERWORLDSGT]

Vance is so full of crap, Tim Walz had 24 years already and was well in the window for retirement eligibility, (20 years) that His unit was prepping for deployment doesn't matter, units were constantly deploying and coming back at that time.

[@1ronin907]

Walz obviously chickened out.

[@debrabremmer9541]

We won't go back!

[@roberthboyd6073]

Military records are public and SO JD VANCE you don't have to explain walz records. JD vance explain your service

[@uber9pig]

I don't really care about ditching the deployment or fibbing about his rank. But I do care that he lied about carrying a rifle in war.

[@earllsimmins9373]

Compare his 24 years to serve his country to Shady serving 4 to get free college and other Veterans benefits.Shame on you.

[@uber9pig]

@@earllsimmins9373 not sure what you are saying.

[@johnsmith7140]

​@@uber9pigneither is he

[@akelley5963]

I find it hard to fathom how serving your country for 24 years is somehow dishonorable. Mr. Vance elected to leave military service. Am I to infer that this was done to evade a future conflict? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[@markinlosangeles9108]

Tim Walz is a Command Sergeant Major, he isn't. According to Minnesota National Guard records, Tim Walz never completed required 2 years of classes/education to fully achieve that title. Tim Walz is just a retired Master Sergeant. He shouldn't be giving himself military titles he has never fully earned--this is shameful stolen valor on his part.

[@johnsmith7140]

Indeed

[@bukktoof]

Im a retired US Navy vet and you dont just "drop out". Retiring is a process and you have to ask permission far in advance of the actual date. Once your retirement is approved the personnel department will start the process and retirement ceremonies will be scheduled etc etc etc. .... it takes time. The Military and your country dont specifically ask a single individual to go to Iraq nor do you have the option to decline. People are assigned to commands in the military and the entire command or unit is given orders. You deploy with your unit. You dont deploy as an individual. EVERYTHING Vance said was disingenuous and purposely distorted. What makes it worse is that as a Marine he should know better.

[@ashleybishop7248]

Thank you.

[@bukktoof]

just to follow up it is as i expected, His request to retire was made in May 2005. The first his unit heard of possibly deploying was in July of 2005 and the unit did not actually deploy until Mar of 2006.

[@DKLGalactus5]

JD vance should ask his boss about his service in the military.

[@Jimfundercover2]

It’s sickening that Vance would falsely blame another soldier for stolen valor while serving a man who used his doctor to stay out of VietNam, who called soldiers who died fighting for this country suckers, who said about a US Senator who was a POW ‘my heroes don’t get captured’.

[@MK-qm4cx]

How is it a false claim of stolen valor when waltz was never a Command Sergeant Major? Lying about rank is the literal definition of Stolen Valor and walz does it on a daily basis. Are you surprised that a guy who signed a bill mandating that tampons MUST be in boys bathrooms also didnt complete the required 2 year course to become Command Sergeant Major ,but lies and calls himself a retired command sergeant major? This is the same guy who refused to prosecute the bombing of a police precinct in minnesota despite it being fully captured on video.

[@bricksbyficks6448]

Honestly I don't agree with JD but any Marine that went to Iraq is just hard to criticize. These people put everything on the line for our country. So try something else to criticize about JD

[@aidsskrillex327]

And Walz accused Vance of having sex with a couch. So Walz deserves everything he gets.

[@johnsmith7140]

Yep

[@cathyadams7288]

It’s hard to take Vance seriously when he wears Women’s eyeliner. Vance serving his Country sitting in an air conditioned Office pushing a pencil!

[@ralphagcaoili7250]

Imagine insulting someone who fought for his nation.

[@user-qf7ud5de9h]

Skills

[@KarmaKamala-2024]

Vance's eyeliner diverts men away from actual "family" producing activities.

[@ralphagcaoili7250]

@Brigit-yr3hk atleast he fought? And last time I checked, it's your side who protects men who pretends to be women? Flip flopping even now?

[@ralphagcaoili7250]

@KarmaKamala-2024 tell that to the droves of unicorn people on yourside

[@paulboger3101]

Hmmmm, reaches retirement age, and retires? That's unforgivable?

[@MKR5210]

Pretty disgusting right? Not like copy pasting your head on Rambo's body to prove your bona fides 🙄

[@bigoranget]

I like how JD claimed Walz lied about his service while misleading about his own service.

[@UncleJoeLITE]

You have been paying attention lately? Not everything Mr Vance says is 100% correct afaik. Just joking, he's a dick.

[@nic0072]

That's how they roll.

[@hughjorg4008]

JD Vance was in the PUBLIC RELATIONS department of the Marines. 😂

[@nic0072]

Correspondent, like a sort of journalist.😂😂😂

[@savageboxing1402]

Tell me what military uses an A.R. 15 in war ?? 🤔

[@Dusty338]

Veterans who were with this dude in Iraq said he never left the base. He sat in an air-conditioned office doing paperwork.

[@averi_s]

Well, TECHNICALLY, “JD Vance” wasn’t in the military either. Sooooooo….

[@hughjorg4008]

True. He is in the PUBLIC RELATIONs department of the Marines.

[@jaybae5850]

Only on paper. He was a true couch surfer 🤣

[@benu_bird]

I moved to Belgium 20 years ago. In my Dutch class, I got death glares from an Iraqi couple in the class. At one point, a Canadian woman in the class that I was friendly with finally introduced us. We got to know each other. I found out that they had a successful drapery business in Bagdad. It was bombed and destroyed during the US invasion. Then their home was bombed. They lost everything. They had to escape Iraq and ask for asylum in Europe. Is going along with that honorable? I believe 1 million Iraqi civilians were killed by the US invasion of Iraq. There were no WMDs. Yes, Hussein was a bastard. He was a murderer. But the US does nothing about other dictators around the world-Trump loves a bunch of them. I wouldn't be proud of being part of that invasion. Just following orders is a piss poor excuse for your actions.

[@TheMrDjQ]

Vance is gonna claimed he got a purple heart from all the paper cuts he got as a clerck!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrGrim15]

Don't question vets service, and especially don't throw around the term stolen valor. Do not come back at this by questioning JD's service as it was honorable. We are better than this and it is easy to win on this by just thanking all vets for their service. All of them, even people voting for Trump. This is not a game, we care about everyone who served.