JD Vance accuses Gov. Walz of “stolen valor”

[@thabomuso2575]

Stolen Valor is a criminal offense with a prison sentence. JD Vance shoule be carefully of defaming Walz by effectively calling him a criminal.

[@og-up4rt]

That is coming from the members of his unit who felt betrayed.

[@briansarah2745]

Plenty of evidence that JD is right maybe get out of your bubble and see it

[@thabomuso2575]

@@briansarah2745 I have learned about Walz's career just as you have. Stolen valor means someone is lying about their military career. Not even Vance himself has accused Walz of doing that. Where is the evidence? Show it to me right here and right now.

[@internetstudios5536]

Yes! Waltz literally commited stolen valor! He lied about being in war in Afghanistan! There’s literally video of him being exposed by another veteran who confronted him on that lie back in 2009!

[@thabomuso2575]

@@internetstudios5536 could you post a link to that of that video please?

[@soulesslemming]

I served in the marine corps from 94-2000 and although I was in the reserves I was never called up, does that mean my service is invalid? Should service members only join during wartime? Wouldn’t that leave us vulnerable? JD Vance was a media relations officer, I don’t think he’s the right person to question someone’s military service based on wartime experience.

[@intercat4907]

It really cut me when MAGAts started this, years ago, denigrating anyone who ID's themselves as a vet. One even denigrated the way I sign posts on the topic, saying that my disability didn't "matter" because stuff happens. I didn't fail, though, and neither did Tim Walz, and neither did you. We were part of a great thing that I miss every day. Stay proud and vote. HM2, USN, disabled.

[@carlyar5281]

@@intercat4907 I wonder how many of those people are actually veterans. I’m not American, but I am a Canadian veteran and it’s well known and accepted that within the forces, we may give each other a hard time or tease based on element, MOS, rank or reg/reserves, but when somebody criticizes us or the organization we close ranks and have each other’s backs. What Vance, and other veterans who are jumping on this bandwagon, are doing is despicable. Between this, the way you’ve been treated, the way the former president treat veterans, it just all goes to show that MAGA is a cult.

[@tasha1626]

Thank you for your service my husband is in the army now 13 years strong still going jd Vance is horrible

[@catcardinalli5481]

Thank you for your reply and for your service. They’re both playing to their Qult’s base, who believe every lie at face value.

[@intercat4907]

@@tasha1626 Cheers, Tasha. I hope being a military family is as good for you as it was for my mom, me, and my kids after me. Also hope y'all make it to 20 and get those free flights. And yes - JD Vance is horrible.

[@JGG3345]

Why does serving in the marines entitle somebody to bad mouthing someone?

[@hobbso8508]

As a journalist no less.

[@CherylBednar]

Law and Order stance is so laughable coming from that side, lol

[@wizardoflawz]

he served 24 years and was honorably discharged, He is under no obligation to stay in, at the age of 40, by the way, to be deployed

[@moniqueferro3144]

My husband was given his honorable discharge a month before the Afghanistan deployments. He served his time. That’s the way it works!

[@Navigator2166]

🗳💙🇺🇸

[@dewaynewalker2104]

True, but if every reservist bailed facing for the first time being put in harms way we would not have a military.

[@scottoleary3726]

Vance was a marine for four years… in public affairs. “I was lucky to never see any real fighting”. Trump dodged the Vietnam draft. You sure you want to go down this road JD?

[@Fe302011]

EXACTLY

[@Bignickfor1]

Vance has a nerve accusing somebody of pretending. He’s pretending to be an intelligent human being but we all see through his deception.

[@kd8199]

Let’s start with his pretending to be a human being.

[@lucylillypad1512]

Being well educated dosen't mean he's smart.

[@omfug7148]

Even his name is phony he was born James McDonald Bowman.

[@micheleconner5083]

Vance wrote in his book,"I was lucky to have escaped any real fighting ",according to Axios. I see again the repuklican projecting! Talk about "stolen Valor!" Sounds ,to me,like Vance is the one with that problem. He was a combat correspondent!!!

[@Vness-yt4nm]

Vance graduated Ohio State in two years the Yale law school. I would say he's not dumb

[@jdmathes]

Stolen Valor is when someone claims service and didn't serve. This isn't stolen valor. Walz never claimed he went to war, only that he served in the National Guard, which he did for 24 years.

[@rhyfeddu]

That's too logical, stop.

[@AbidingDude420]

Vance is just doing what the GOP love to do: Throw globs of spaghetti against the wall until it sticks.

[@gustavoc.novillo6695]

Dump Trump! His vision is division!

[@gustavoc.novillo6695]

Dump JDV! His vision is division!

[@youtubewatcher2]

@@AbidingDude420 No Stick Walz. His new Threads handle.

[@fest5887]

Imagine someone who spent 4 years in correspondence role questioning the valor of someone who served 24 years and especially when you running with someone who bragged about draft dodging

[@forgetful3360]

Vance wrote press releases for the Marines. He had the softest job of all. He has no idea of what valor is.

[@PennyKirk-j8h]

He is a joke. Gives real hillbillies a bad name.

[@kaylear4189]

@@forgetful3360 if Vance served where he was assigned he served with honor. My husband served during Desert Storm, he served where assigned doesn’t make his service less honorable because it wasn’t on the frontline.

[@sterlinghousewashpressurew9594]

Pog

[@VV-lz1xp]

How can you attack Walz’s service when you are running on a ticket under a guy who dodged the draft for bone spurs

[@user-lg9sf9jv4n]

yea big talk from a journalist.. vance is a joke

[@tomdavies9662]

He wasn't even a front-line reporter. Civilian reporters were far closer to front lines. Regards from a Tom :)

[@amazinggrace6640]

Vote Trump NOT Tramp!!!!

[@VV-lz1xp]

@@amazinggrace6640 I’m sure in your teeny tiny mind you thought that was clever. Curious, does misogyny provide you compensation for your short comings?

[@highcy1]

You mean the guy that took a bullet for you and your country?

[@OldMotherLogo]

Walz spends 24 years in the National Guard and Republicans criticize him for not staying in longer? Meanwhile, the guy at the top of their ticket is a draft dodger. Okaaay . . .

[@Jsfpharp]

Call the National Guard a bunch of 19-year-old cooks shut the front door

[@dodsonJimmie]

we criticized him for lying about carrying a gun in war which he did not and we criticize him about lying about his service when he left the army before they were deployed. as good as you are at twisting things you can't twist the truth and it's already out he's a liar he abandoned his brothers in the time of need. wow and you cover for him smh

[@martinq1920]

@@dodsonJimmie GFY

[@dodsonJimmie]

@@martinq1920 it's okay. you're the kind of person they are reporting for. they're lying to you and that's why you're so misguided and delusional. so take your own advice because I doubt any woman or man would want to do it would you

[@ricki-bobby]

@@dodsonJimmie You worship a cult leader and draft dodger. GFY

[@ShawnTevala777]

When you have nothing of value in terms of policy to offer, you devolve into petty schoolyard bully attacks

[@TheSmallninjavicki]

Agreed.

[@pitajalla]

EXACTLY!! They have NOTHING to offer America.

[@JaredR-l4j]

​@@TheSmallninjavicki They have absolutely zero to offer the people of this nation.

[@garydaniels5495]

That's all these clowns are. Oops, sorry. I didn't mean to insult clowns.

[@MaryAnnReilly]

Exactly

[@loriweir7831]

Law and order? How come he does not talk about January 6. One hundred and forty officers guarding the Capitol that day reported physical injury.

[@kdwaynec]

"Normal tourist visit..."

[@Navigator2166]

🗳💙🇺🇸

[@anandarochisha]

@@loriweir7831 9 dead on the house invasion. MANSON GOT THE DEATH PENALTY FOR ORDERING THAT.

[@ca6360]

Many officers in the guards... msm not thinking about that.

[@anandarochisha]

@@loriweir7831 9 dead, same number as CHARLES MANSON Who ordered a 1969 house invasion, plus 145 more injured and millions in damage and millions to send 250+ "patriots" to PRISON. Who Pays ? MANSON GOT THE DEATH PENALTY AND DIED IN PRISON.

[@djh1010]

They aren’t going to address Walz retired in May of 2005 and his unit received their notice for deployment in July of 2005? Just going to ignore the dude was fully retired before the call was even made??

[@ArchaicAnglist]

Which also means that he'd have submitted his notice to retire six months to a year before that. The military branches do not like to have to replace senior officers (whether non-commissioned (like Walz) or commissioned on shorter notice than that.

[@utethornburg7715]

Do not be something that you are not from a guy that has changed his name 3 times, he served in the marines in an office.

[@markdayell61]

EXACTLY!!!

[@avet4521]

U don't understand how the Marine Corps works if u think he had an office job. Just stop! I don't like Vance, so please don't make me defend him. There's much better issues to go after than his Marine Corps service.

[@13BulliTs]

@@avet4521 erhm please explain, he had an office job.

[@Pdf258]

He had NO right to criticize Walz without knowing the facts that surrounded his leaving his service to our country after 24 years. How about JD just applaud someone who served in ANY capacity instead of suggesting Walz’s service was of “stolen valor?” This is what Republicans do time and time again, and this seems to be the only way Vance can campaign alongside the man he once called the American Hitler.

[@avet4521]

@@13BulliTs All Marines are basic rifleman. Regardless of MOS, we are all infantrymen first, we all do infantry duty. There's no such thing as an "office job" in the Corps. So, please find a something better to go after him for, there's plenty of options.

[@NewEnglander15]

This is disgusting. Vance served in the military just four years in Public Affairs so he could get his college degree paid for. Walz served for 24 years and did not deploy in 2001 because his daughter who he and his wife waited eight years for was just born, not to mention he was pushing 40 at the time. Vance is despicable.

[@davidguelette7036]

And you're being kind.

[@forgetful3360]

Thank-you for bringing the truth.

[@bill-xm7dz]

TRUTH.

[@davidrhinehart7764]

@@bill-xm7dz Truth? He quit in 2005 after finding out his unit was going to be deployed to Iraq. There was no war to be deployed to in 2001.

[@rickeverett3304]

Bone spur in chief

[@douglasarcher9544]

Walz never pretended. Never claimed to have been in a war zone, so JD, since you feel strongly about this, tell us about your battle experience. You saying 24 years is not enough? That other than battle time, there is no value in our military, our national guard?

[@maysville3815]

JD should call out tRump for draft dodging. Captain Bonespurs got 4 college deferments & had to come up with bonespures for his final excuse. How does that sit with vets he disrespects regularly. Harris / WALZ 2024 for democracy! 🌊🌊🌊

[@TaiwanisMoving]

As a veteran, you do not go after someone's military service. If you served, yiu were a part of the mission. If I had any respect for Vance I would have lost it all after this.

[@user-lg9sf9jv4n]

he was war Correspondent (journalist)

[@chrlpolk]

I’ve seen a lot of “as a Veteran” comments deriding Walz. People are going to stick with their political bias, even with regards to service.

[@carlyar5281]

@@chrlpolk yeah but how many of those comments are coming from actual veterans? It’s the type of rhetoric that bots and trolls will quickly pick up on. This is how they can boost a false narrative and create the appearance of public support for a view when little exists.

[@LeonieRomanes]

​@@carlyar5281 Yes, I take those "as a veteran" comments as seriously as "as a black woman" comments. Trolls and bots always start their nonsense with a lie.

[@jblkcns]

Republicans have no honor

[@robertsmentkowski312]

⁠Stolen Valor fact: Walz retired as a master sergeant, an E-8. He says he retired as a command sergeant major, an E-9. He lied about his retirement rank often including while in Congress in 2009.

[@Sadee-d9z]

What about bone spurs

[@MS2036-c8o]

Not getting in because you're medically incapable is different than pretending something about the military. That's why it's called stolen valor. It's also why the military frowns upon it so severely

[@georgewashington3555]

Democratic Sen. Tammy Duckworth, a Purple Heart recipient, once called Trump "Cadet Bone Spurs." Trump avoided being drafted 4 times bc of college, but after he graduated he suddenly claimed he had Bone Spurs in his Heels. :) this is after he passed the Health Exam. :)

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

​@@georgewashington3555didn't Sen. Duckworth lose a leg in combat?

[@gloferj]

@@mytruecrimelibraryshe sure did! A true patriot!

[@user-lg9sf9jv4n]

Jd vance was a combat correspondent. glorified journalist

[@sxt4447]

Didn’t JD work in the Public Affairs department for the Marines and literally wrote in his memoir that he was glad he was “lucky to escape any real fighting…”??? Weirdo.

[@carlyar5281]

Vance claimed to be a combat veteran yet he was never in combat. He deployed to an operational theatre as a correspondent armed with a camera, but that doesn’t make him a combat veteran. Walz never claimed to be a combat veteran. I deployed to Afghanistan in 2006 in a support role. I carried a rifle, but I have never and will never claim to be a combat veteran because I didn’t fight in a combat role. Vance, needs to remember to stay in his lane!

[@og-up4rt]

Vance was deployed as a marine to Iraq in 2005, the year with the second most US casualties

[@alyrios]

Wait, wait, what!? Somebody retiring after 24 years of service is already 4 years over the 20-year limit! (and doing that in the guard or reserve is not easy either) Vance didn't go to combat either, so what is he trying to do here? Somebody needs to review what stolen valor really means and he is looking like fool while doing so.

[@KITLEVEY]

Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Pub. L.Tooltip Public Law (United States) 113-12 (text) (PDF); H.R. 258) is a United States federal law that was passed by the 113th United States Congress. Trying to pass yourself off as having medals for combat related success is a federal crime. Did Vance just accuse Walz of committing a crime ?

[@jokz4u2]

As a military veteran and the wife of a Vietnam veteran who served 2 tours there I am VERY offended by JD Vance and NY Post going after a fellow veteran and questioning Walz 24 year military service to this country. Vance was only in Iraq for 6 months as a reporter (never in combat), a 1 1/2 years less than my husband served in Vietnam. He also was only in the military for 4 years vs the 24 years that Walz served. So, if you really want to go there, let's talk about your hero, President Bone Spurs who was never in the military and paid to get his deferment to avoid going to Vietnam. Not to mention he calls those of us that served " sucker & losers". You have a lot of nerve calling anybody out for their military service. You disgust me!!

[@Pdf258]

Thank you both for your dedicated service to our country. 🇺🇸

[@PennyKirk-j8h]

MAGA does not respect our military or our police. Thank you for your service!

[@paulwilding2969]

WELL SAID 🇳🇿🏋️‍♀️NZ

[@3227phoenix]

Totally agree for someone to reach the rank of CSM is a huge deal. 24 yrs Lots of schools and lots of responsibility as a leader. Vance 4 years as correspondent what was he in charge of? The copy machine.

[@Navigator2166]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and history. Much respect for you and your husband. It's important to hear the voices of our vet community. Especially our Vietnam Vets. They have been silenced for too long. 🗳💙🇺🇸🗽

[@4nsk]

Retiring from service is honorable.

[@jujubees711]

If JD is so concerned about military records. Why doesn't he criticize Trump for evading the draft due to a bone spur? LoL Vance calls himself a combat veteran. Vance was only in the military for 4 years. And he didn't fight in combat. He only reported as a correspondent. Walz served in the National Guard for 24 years. He served his time As an Independent, I can't wait to vote for Kamala and Waltz for their experience, competence, and integrity. It's our service to America to keep conmen like Trump and his "yes" men out of office

[@mdmurray17]

To be fair he benefited from the GI act to get his first degree, lifelong veterans health care, got a scholarship for his attendance at Yale where he wrote a best selling book whining about how terrible his life was

[@t.r.campbell6585]

Bone spurs can be a debilitating medical condition. An army that marches on its feet would not want a military candidate with this type of medical condition that would prevent a military person from moving rapidly on foot.

[@evolutionistheflyingspaghe2702]

When Walz discovered his unit was getting mobilized for Desert Storm he quit, though he had two years remaining on his military “commitment”. You are painfully inconsistent!

[@kristineheim4710]

@@t.r.campbell6585 However, you are not speaking of trump, whose daddy trumped up bone spurs so his son wouldn't have to into the military and be a loser.

[@mgm8822]

@@t.r.campbell6585 it’s not a debilitating medical condition fool. It’s a temporary condition that takes about 6 to 8weeks to resolve and he didn’t have in the first place. His father pressured a podiatrist he knew to write Trump a fake letter. He never had bone spurs, I guarantee it.

[@maxcubot]

After graduating from Middletown High School in 2003, Vance enlisted in the US Marine Corps and served in Iraq as a combat correspondent for six months in late 2005. He was part of the Public Affairs section of the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing and said that his service "taught me how to live like an adult" and that he was "lucky to escape any real fighting".

[@rain-wanders]

THIS! THIS is seriously what everyone needs to be saying in response to these Trump/Vance trolls who think that Vance is somehow superior to Walz's 24 years of service.

[@LiftUpNotDown]

😂 he served for 6 months as a correspondent? 😂 He’s such a hypocrite.

[@peterrobertson4321]

Exactly....how dare you attack Tim....who served his country with valor And , big time dedication and added more after that.....JD Vance is a flat tire couch potato 😂.....

[@blainemitchell]

Vance was a journalist in the military. He served 4 years. Walz was in for 24. After 24 years, that's called retirement. This is a nothing spin and Vance knows it.

[@ca6360]

Yes but Vance served in active combat zone, aka combat vet. Walz lied and said 'weapon of war like I carried in combat" ..... Vance had to carry a weapon in combat and I had so many, was a MP gunner deployed from guard unit also. Lying and not going are 2 dif things. Many folks got out of Nam for instance, but Trump is not saying he went! Biden got out of it also.

[@darkgalaxy5548]

He claimed a rank he hadn't attained. Stolen valor!

[@TheDeviantPro]

@@ca6360 Vance is not combat vet, he was a reporter who never held a gun.

[@TheDeviantPro]

@@darkgalaxy5548 Walz did attained Command Sergeant Major, the national guard confirmed this.

[@darkgalaxy5548]

@@TheDeviantPro Not exactly, he served as a CSM, but did not qualify. He separated as an E8, but repeatedly claimed he was a Retd CSM. The NG confirms his E8 status.

[@snowrose101]

*Tim Walz was 41 years old and a new father when he left the Army National Guard. It's completely understandable that as a new father who'd tried to have children for 7 years through IVF that he did not want to be separated from his wife and new children. AFTER JD Vance has served his country for 24 years, THEN he can comment.*

[@garydaniels5495]

And Vance is nowhere near 24 years in service to the country.

[@juniper617]

Vance was a journalist in Iraq. Granted he was in a combat zone, but combat wasn’t his job there.

[@elguapo.1234]

​@garydaniels5495 but national guard is 2 weekends a month so technically jd served more lol

[@anneniliam3911]

does scammed his country count? if it does then vance has indeed put in his time ( as hopefully donald will soon serve his)

[@Atribecalledsuccess]

Sounds like Walz didn’t care to fight for his country

[@kalbs89]

Coming from an Airwing public relations Corporal talking trash about a guy who earned the rank of Command Master sergeant is a bit odd. Vance's biggest battles were fought on a sofa.

[@Human_Rights_23-zl1hv]

Exactly 💯

[@stevenwoof8296]

Big difference between the National Guard and the real army

[@adamthomas7218]

And Vance was in neither ​@@stevenwoof8296

[@DaSilvaDiego]

​@stevenwoof8296 Nope, many times NG gets more deployment than regular army or reserves.

[@robynrobison4050]

@@stevenwoof8296 You are trivializing the importance of National Guard during both peace time and times of war. And, when you want to talk combat, the vast majority of active duty military NEVER see combat. Regardless if we served in a war zone or not, our rank and years of dedicated military service is in no way stolen valor, Heck, just in 2022 alone over 450,000 National Guard were deployed around the country and participated in lifesaving natural disaster responses. And, the irony is roughly 50% of National Guard does have combat experience where as roughly 10-20% of active duty ever see combat. Plus, I'll also mention that even if a National Guard member has 20 or more years of qualified service, they have to wait until age 60 to get retirement pay even if they may have deployed to war zones multiple times.

[@Catinthedesert]

Everyone knows that all veterans are not in combat. What a tool.

[@tugolditocaribeno2922]

I think it would be a big mistake for these weirdos to talk about rioters, specially after J-6 😭🤣

[@Coyotegal92]

Rigged elections have consequences.

[@njay4361]

Yet they always do 🤣 They can't see that trying to overthrow the results of an election are way worse than any so-calles riot they point to. They lack brain cells haha

[@janicepalesch9221]

EVERYTHING they say is projection.

[@timd729]

Kyle Rittenhouse taught you a lesson about rioting.

[@tugolditocaribeno2922]

@@timd729 naw! Wrong dude, kid won't have a chance, cuz I too believe in the 2nd amendment in a responsible way & I too can make it go boom boom boom.😤💪🏾😎

[@Sci-Que]

Walz did his time and got out. Trump is a draft dodger. There it is in a nutshell.

[@patriot4america]

Biden didn't serve either, hypocrite.

[@user-lg9sf9jv4n]

jd vance was a journalist.. never in combat either

[@Atribecalledsuccess]

Walz ran away when it was time to deploy

[@elliothill3953]

@@AtribecalledsuccessTrump played college baseball despite having “bone spurs” which kept him from enlisting. Trump has no spine but what he does have is obesity and dementia. 💙

[@Benny-l6w]

@@user-lg9sf9jv4n jd carried a pax and pencil. Not a weapon

[@ronowens1524]

I was a combat Marine in Viet Nam. JD Vance was a reporter as a Marine in Afganistan. Never in actual combat. Did he ever fire his weapon? No.

[@geoffmcnew5863]

Sorry, JD went to Iraq. Try to have basic facts.

[@bubbiesdad]

Walz was never in combat himself.

[@eklass5]

Always moving the goalpost. So it’s not enough to have 20 years of military experience, now you have to participate in a war? This dude is a joke

[@avictorbell2835]

And these are the people that allegedly want America to participate in any war

[@Youalleatmuffins]

💯 and it'll just be more of the same until November

[@paulwilliams8389]

Apparently dodging the draft due to bone spurs and calling military veterans "losers and suckers" is okay though.

[@FerrisBFerris]

And Vance IS NOT a combat veteran. He’s a military journalist. What a joke he is

[@PeytonWind]

Sergeant Walz vs Corporal Vance. That's what we need to know. 🪖

[@User.mindyourownbusiness94]

Vance is running with Trump, who dodged draft and called veterans "losers". Come on!

[@Mark-Haddow]

Vance never served in combat. He was deployed to a war zone. He thinks being a secretary in Iraq is the equivalent of Rambo.

[@avet4521]

​@@Mark-Haddow Stop. Ur comment makes clear that u don't understand the Marine Corps. I don't like Vance, and I resent having to defend him. Pick better reasons to go after him, there's plenty of choices.

[@rooster1012]

@@avet4521 Wrong when you are attacking another vet who served 24 years and you were literally a secretary who never did anything then you deserve to be called out for your hypocrisy.

[@avet4521]

@@rooster1012 He's wrong for that, and I've been defending Waltz. However, ur criticism is inaccurate and wrong as well. All Marines are basic rifleman. Regardless of MOS we all do infantry duty. Find a better issue to go after him for, perhaps 1 that isn't an insult to Marines.

[@azucarinho1]

Excuse my nitpicking: it's 'losers' . . .

[@goulash64]

Falsely claiming 'stolen valor' is disgusting and will backfire on JD and the Republicans because it's a huge turn off to veterans and people who love them.

[@og-up4rt]

Do your research

[@JohnSmith-ve7sw]

And Shady Vance's hypocrisy! Has he looked at his boss?? Trump think's he served in Vietnam when he sleazed around with prostitutes in the 70's and 80's!

[@purple_haze673]

@@goulash64 it's not just JD watch the interview with the man that took Walz place when he abandoned his team.

[@zippydooda]

It's not false. Walz said he was a Command Sargent. He was not. He did not serve in Iraq. He abandoned his troops when they were about to get deployed to Iraq. Walz was demoted. Hes a liar and a coward.

[@ninkenny]

Farsley, please learn to do your own research, this is well documented for a while now on Mr Walz.

[@CurtisPointer-e3p]

JD Vance, didn't Trump dodge the draft because his father allegedly paid a doctor to say he had bone spurs ...

[@James-ym6ij]

Anyway, what is a bone spur? Is that some kind of coward bone?

[@emmawalton1849]

​@@James-ym6ij😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidsandall]

Were you pro Vietnam War? None of us should of went. You know its an unjust War if they have to implement a draft.

[@MrJOKERZ68]

@davidsandall they had a draft because they needed more people. Nothing to do with if you supported the war or not. If your number came up you went. The same thing was in WW2

[@Deadmanstrolln]

Not to mention vance didn't see combat either. He was a war corespondent and never saw combat, as per he himself

[@LWVPY]

VD Vance will need a new identity and image change soon.

[@DouglasLyons-yg3lv]

Kind of hard to attack Walz on riots in Minnesota when Trump led a riot on Jan 6.

[@SisterChatterDMV]

and tfg praised him for how he handled it, so he must be a tough guy. you know he likes strong men.

[@mariofernandes1956]

Why is JD Vance always angry and full of hate unlike Tim Walz?

[@mraereed]

Because Republicans want to rule. Democrats want to govern.

[@jimhazel1544]

I know, weird isn't it?

[@Pdf258]

He has the perfect role model in Trump.

[@pitajalla]

because he's a phony lying sack of crap to get close to being president

[@deborahboggs6040]

Because is a exact copy of his boss ??????

[@LauraJarvis-vt3pt]

Venture capitalist says what???🙄🙄🙄

[@PennyKirk-j8h]

Does my eyeliner make my face look fat??? Mmmm

[@mypillowguy445]

Shillbilly says what?

[@dannmarceau]

He (Walz) served 24 years in the Army National Guard and retired as a command sergeant major; J.D. Vance is nothing more than an obsequious weasel.

[@donkeeton7897]

Let me inform Mr Vance that most of my family also served in the military my dad during the Korean conflict in the mid 1950s 3 uncles and a nephew also serving in the Army and a cousin who served in Vietnam and none of them would even give him the time of day let alone support him for dog catcher.

[@euniceransfer7873]

Cheap attacks toward smart and intelligent people, does not work for us Americans.

[@KayWagner-j5k]

Makes my stomach sick

[@euniceransfer7873]

@@KayWagner-j5k is there a doctor in the house ?

[@rain-wanders]

Unless you're a far right republican who have bought into the propaganda machine that is Trump.

[@davids4313]

It did in 2016 didn't it? Then four years later 73 million adults vote for the cheap, stupid attacker and abuser. And the cheap attacker is still nearly 50/50 in the polls. Of course it works for you Americans. Half of you it seems.

[@aaronking5076]

Oh, I disagree. MAGAts will jump on this to support Vance's attack on Walz's service immediately.

[@thomasperry6081]

Jd vance should be charged with stolen valor….and missing intelligence. This guy is an embarrassment to the Marine Corps……..and to the human race

[@Magnificent729]

Mate of ‘bone spur’ man goes after a 24 year veteran… oh I can see this coming back to bite!!

[@charlenemack7040]

It’s going to bite really big not like a Chihuahua but like a Rottweiler😮

[@intercat4907]

"Mate of Bone Spur Man" is a new graphic novel series. And there is coffee on my keyboard.

[@Magnificent729]

@@intercat4907 🤣

[@jimbennett635]

The #1 licker of the boots of Cadet Bonespurs, who wrote stories about combat from the sidelines, is whining “stolen valor”. Totally not weird.

[@13BulliTs]

😂

[@TSinRM]

Walz's 24 years of service in uniform versus Cadet Bone Spurs dodging the draft. I'll take Tim Walz's record any day of the week.

[@ca6360]

Trump never said he went to combat. Plus... all the money and training they put into him to ready him for when he was to be called on amd he bailed out 2 years early out of contract!

[@billy4eyes512]

Vance was a military correspondent. Not frontline.

[@calmingnatureshorts5798]

JD "trump is America's Hitler" Vance has some explaining to do!?

[@Idlewyld]

Hitler actually fought in combat. Mr. Eyeliner did not.

[@afre3398]

Ha wasn't wrong though. So what is it to explain??

[@bobcarter5205]

@@afre3398 Why NOW?? As a Veteran I can swear to you one thing: you run when the fighting starts and you live through, you WILL face a courts martial disaster. Governor Walz has a STERLING REPUTATION for 24 years of military service. Where did Governor Walz’s POLITICAL ENEMIES PICK UP this ABSOLUTE LIE from?? How do I KNOW this is an ABSOLUTE LIE?? Simple really: Why didn’t this come up during Governor Walz’s 12 years in Congress?? Or his 8 years as Governor?? I think we know the reason for asking the question: “Why NOW?”

[@calmingnatureshorts5798]

@@afre3398 why he fluffs his nob now

[@primetime4700]

​@Idlewyld ... no. No he didn't. Hitler was a coward and you have the dumb thinking this.

[@alexkatsanos8475]

Meanwhile ABC has Trump in audio praising Walz and his handling of the protests. Oops.

[@Stud_muffin]

I'm a vet, during Vietnam War, but I never went to Vietnam. "Stolen Valor" to me is: 1) claiming you served when you didn't 2) claiming medals/combat duty when you didn't 3) claiming rank you didn't achieve. I don't see any of that with Walz, and Sgt Majors don't grow on trees; I don't care what branch. If Vance us so worried about military resumes, why did he agree to be VP for "bone spurs" Trump? "Couch" Vance needs to shut up; Walz's resume is beyond inpressive.

[@pattricklewis]

Honestly... I cannot imagine ever trying to use someone's military service against them as some kind of insult. Just when you think MAGA can't lose their minds anymore than they already have.

[@dewaynewalker2104]

Bailing on your military comrades after 24 years because you might be deployed in harms way is NOT IMPRESSIVE!

[@petermartell568]

@@dewaynewalker2104 retiring after 24 years of military service is, indeed, a commendable decision. not at all similar to getting deferred for imaginary bone spurs.

[@jamesjohnson-vj6uu]

Like the purple heart Trump accepted from s soldier, saying it was easier that way, having never served! Remember that? When he ran the first time in 2016.

[@gwslayton]

@@dewaynewalker2104he retired. You act like he went awol. Guy did 24 years. What’s wrong with you? Did you serve?

[@trevor2001]

The guy who sent out his wife to defend him has some balls.

[@Don-md6wn]

But he said he loves his wife even though she's not white.

[@PAUL1P-yn6ju]

Actually no he doesn't. He happily gave them to Trump.

[@13BulliTs]

yup exactly, was wondering when someone would mention this!

[@jackprice1758]

Did you guys vote for Joe who was led around by Jill for however so long??

[@garydaniels5495]

What are those balls made of?

[@GreasergalOG]

Tim Walz outranked JD Vance and served two decades longer. Guard members don’t pick their deployment locations anymore than active duty. How disrespectful and ignorant.

[@SKeletor99999]

all Vance talks about is nonsense. Sharks, diet Mountain Dew, Hannibal Lector, Eye Liner.

[@Greghh1960]

I hope Walz touts that he made Minnesota a sanctuary state where illegal immigrants get drivers licenses and free healthcare while I have to pay for mine and taxed to pay for theirs. That should help with the swing states.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

@@Greghh1960 Wow, that's crazy that a governor of 6 million people had to make hard decisions that you can't even imagine and some people won't be happy about all of them.

[@Greghh1960]

@@davidmccarthy6061 ->Whats hard about it? You in favor of paying for Chinese and Russian healthcare and you get the bill? That is a hard decision too?

[@lovemypets254]

And a Harris VP plane that is not his!

[@peterharris8471]

So now vance is telling everyone in the military that if they didn't go to war they have "stolen valor"? Weirdo can't open his mouth without shoving his foot in there! 🤣

[@Cogito211]

What's crazier is that Vance didn't even see combat and he's accusing a retired CSM that he isn't a real veteran

[@peterharris8471]

@@Cogito211 his pile of bs just gets deeper and deeper!🤣

[@cliftonshockley7049]

It's not his foot...😂😂😂

[@relentlessprofanity]

JD Vance was in public relations in the USMC. The only time he ever even heard gunshots was on the range.

[@jbrowne1948]

Ok, Shady Vance was in the USMC, for four years and served in Public Affairs. Walz at age 41 just became a father…I thought Shady Vance really valued biological parents…. DonOld himself was a draft-dodger…. Hypocrisy is alive in the MAGA camp.Regarding the law enforcement issues, Trump’s action on Jan 6th caused one death on scene and 140+ police officers were injured and several later died do mental health issues. The MAGA GOP has no high ground when it comes to discussing law enforcement or military issues. 💙🇺🇸🇺🇦

[@dinkster1729]

How many deluded rioters went to jail, too?

[@James_Knott]

At least he didn't have bone spurs! 🙂

[@squeak2521]

And look at all the MAGA memes of Trump in military uniform and his pathetic red tie

[@patriot4america]

Biden didn't serve either. Why haven't you attacked him for that? Hypocrite.

[@Idlewyld]

JD Vance, serial name changer, graduate of Middletown High School, who's never had a fight in his life, accuses another man of stolen valor. Pretty hilarious.

[@ragnong9680]

Classy. JD changed his name because he didn't want to associate himself with his father who was abusive to both him and his mother. Democrats are such lovely people.

[@sylviag3576]

Vance doesn’t have to lie about his service!

[@PastorChrisRN]

Stolen valor??? Stolen valor happens when those who didn’t serve claimed to serve and when veterans falsely claim to have been awarded medals they never actually earned. I don’t think either is the case with Gov. Walz.

[@DumbleDoff]

So if a veteran who was sitting in a base in America said they fought in war, thats not stolen valor? MSNBC viewer cope is hilarious. Walz is going to be hated by the public.

[@bubbiesdad]

He claims to have carried weapons into war, he claims a rank he didn't achieve.

[@christinac3929]

Sounds like JD is projecting. Highlighting his own service but neglecting to say his service was as a reporter😂🤡

[@ericcardenas702]

The Liar literally claimed to serve in a war which he did not do.

[@DumbleDoff]

@@christinac3929 his service was not as a reporter. He was a military guard unit for reporters and poll workers who were outside the Green Zone. He was 100% at risk for IEDs and gunfire.

[@paakowhenry5186]

JD Mandel needs more couches and dolphins. JD Mandel is loosing his mind.

[@notpurrfect6397]

Why do you call him Mandel?

[@paakowhenry5186]

@@notpurrfect6397 trump introduced him as JD Mandel, that is what I remember. You can ask trump why he called him DJ Mandel.

@@paakowhenry5186 stable genius couldn't remember his running mate's name

[@georgewashington3555]

@@notpurrfect6397 bc he has changed his name 3 times. so he has total of 4 names so far. Vance is the last one.

[@TheProsparity]

Why did he change his name

[@jamesjewell3515]

Former combat Marine here, two tours in Vietnam, not in the rear with the gear like Vance, I have no use for this guy who turned on a dime and sacrificed his honor for power, money and fame. Accusing anyone who wore the uniform for any reason of "stolen valor" is beyond disgraceful. Exceptions to the rules of being deployed exist for a reason: to help preserve what we are fighting for. Vance needed to be their for his family, and his family needed him more than his country did at that time. No problem. Serving in the rear with the gear as Vance did gives him no footing to say any of these things and only displays his lack of character, as befits a person who would serve as VP for "America's Hitler," to quote Vance himself. Take a hike, punk...

[@pmclaughlin4111]

Fyi...after Wala reenlist the last time, a medical review board recommended retirement due to artillery related hearing loss. Walz talked them out of it. Walz deployed to Europe as logistical support for Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003. He put in his papers end of 2004. Out May 2005. Unit placed on Alert July 2005.deployed October 2005. Due to hearing loss, Walz was non deployable to combat zone. His decision to retire a year earlier meant they could establish a new command structure well before deployment instead of on th plane going over.

[@lisam26]

Military family member here. Walz enlisted in 1981 and served 24 years in the Army National Guard. He put in for retirement before the National Guard knew they were going to Iraq. Plus most active duty military have to retire after 20 years. Walz more than served his time and is a veteran like all military members. Plus JD Vance was never in combat; he was a public affairs guy. He can go pound sand.

[@hapwyatt4550]

Walz joined the Guard when he was 17 years old in 1981. He had left the Guard just before 9/11 but after 9/11 he signed back up even though he wanted to start his political career. In 2003 he was deployed to a support unit in Italy where he assisted his unit's contribution to the European Taskforce -- a staging area for supply support, training, and air-support. Anyone that knows the military knows you go where they send you. Walz attained the rank of command sergeant major. In order to keep that rank he had to finish his army schooling to maintain that rank and commit to additional years of service. Walz decided in 2004 to retire from the Guard so he could start the next chapter of his life. He retired in 2005, but because he did not finish his command sergeant major schooling before he retired, his retirement was processed at the rank of master sergeant. Walz served 24 years and some months in the National Guard. He was at the end of his military career and wanted to run for office as his next career. His unit was notified in 2005 they were being called up within six months. Walz already had planned to retire from the Guard before the call-up notice. The military does not rely on one person. The military is a unit where there is always a soldier behind you ready to step up. It is not stolen valor. He served. He served in the war. He reached the rank. Where is the stole valor?

[@itsallminor6133]

So he was deployed to Italy once to stock supplies and was a master Sargent in the national guard spending most of his time washing the trucks and organizing supplies. Okay. Gotcha

[@hapwyatt4550]

@@itsallminor6133 That is a misleading and disingenuous statement. In the field he held the rank of command sergeant major. Artillery Battalion... no washing there. Please educate yourself before making statements.

[@richardb8267]

@@itsallminor6133 And Don the bone spurs avoided the draft. what's your point?

[@itsallminor6133]

@@hapwyatt4550 according to other posters he never finished his schooling so was demoted

[@itsallminor6133]

@@richardb8267 this isn't about Don. It would not surprise me though. A lot of people escaped under Medical

[@BhumiPiltz]

Vance is so pathetic

[@thman-sp8bn]

And the cow, Kamala is a coward. Tell your girl to take one question. Tell her do a press conference. She is destroying democracy and most people are disgusted by the sight of her. So deal with it

[@Brendan-t7g]

Trump dodged the draft

[@thman-sp8bn]

@@Brendan-t7g so did Clinton and Barack. So???

[@LiftUpNotDown]

@@thman-sp8bnPresident Obama did not dodge any drafts. He was only 14 years old when the Vietnam War ended.

[@spliffqueeg]

@@thman-sp8bn, there was no draft when Obama was eighteen years old. President Obama was born in August of 1961, the draft ended in January of 1973, Barack Obama was eleven years old.

[@SilverMachine-bm4sj]

I never heard of Walz a week ago, but anyone who spent 24 years in the US military deserves respect. People throw around the words "stolen valor" pretty recklessly, and doing it for the benefit of a presidential candidate who never served is actually sickening. Vance should know better and find other reasons to criticize the Democrats. Our security would be in deep trouble if normal Americans stopped signing up for the National Guard.

[@kaylear4189]

Vance wasn’t the one who brought it up. It was originally brought up when Walz first ran for governor by his men who served under him. The story was vetted and found to be fact and then the paper didn’t run it. When he was known to be the vp pick the story surfaced again by the men who served under him and they were pleased that it wasn’t going to get squashed again. I am a wife of a Veteran and mom of two currently serving. I would not want Harris or Walz as commander in chief over my kids.

[@booqueefious2230]

Just because someone served doesn't mean they can't also be guilty of stolen valor

[@pmclaughlin4111]

Incorrect: it was originally brought up in a Facebook post in 2018 and amplified by Alpha News a right wing conspiracy website. When it was fact checked by real people not right wing loons, it was found to be somewhere between substantially misleading and outright lies. Timeline: 2002 medical review board recommends retirement due to service related hearing loss (artillery). Walz convinces them to let him stay in. 2003 Walz deploys to Europe as support for Operation. Iraqi Freedom. 2004, Walz puts in his papers. February 2005, files papers for Congressional Candidacy. May 2005, Retires. July 2005 former unit put on alert October 2005, 15 months after Walz submitted retirement paperwork, unit deploys. Ask your two serving...would they rather have the senior enlisted leadership in p!ace well before deployment or figure out the new guy in the sandbox.

[@GK-ku3zv]

@@kaylear4189 After 24 years of service wanting to become governor seems like a reasonable move. It was the timing more than anything else.

[@pipj7153]

@@kaylear4189 But a president that ridicules veterans and POWs is A-OK.

[@theratrace999]

Vance did NOT serve in combat, he was a Reporter for 6 months in Iraq! He should be more concerned about TRUMP'S 5 TIME DRAFT DODGER Status!

[@tomdavies9662]

He wasn't even a reporter. Civilian reporters were far closer to the action than he ever got. Regards from a Tom :)

[@RS-tz2zn]

At least he was willing to go, unlike dodger wals…who was happy to be paid for easy military service but retired when they reallly needed him

[@og-up4rt]

Vance was deployed as a marine to Iraq in 2005, the year with the second most US casualties.

[@beatlloydy]

​@@og-up4rthe was a frigging journalist.😂

[@johnathandavis3693]

@@og-up4rt When Vance arrived with his typewriter, the enemy got terrified and ran away🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@suedavis3525]

Vance did not have a combat role.

[@chuckjohnson2564]

D J Chump a five time draft dodger . JD Vance a correspondent with only six months in public Affairs . JD Vance once said this " I was lucky to escape any real fighting " Now for him to get off the couch .

[@higgs923]

Weird is when the Republican candidates for POTUS and VP wear more makeup than RuPaul.

[@rarearthman]

Vance is there to carry tRumps make up bag and lend him his eyeliner when he needs it!

[@CJTKRTHOME]

How WEIRD to question the valor a FELLOW SERVICE MEMBER who served in the Nat Guard for 24 years.

[@itsallminor6133]

It's the national guard. Most active duty military looks down on it.

[@og-up4rt]

The questioning is coming from members of his unit

[@JohnSmith-ve7sw]

Another bad attack. You can tell it's only morons left in the Republican party advice office. Next Judas is going to attack Tim for having grey hair and alienate 25% of the seniors population!

[@Southernyaya923]

Donald and Vance are such whimpy, little crybabies. The military members should be brothers and sisters. These 2 have such low character and they want us all to act just as divisive as them. Vance also attacked a reporter for asking him "what makes him happy"

[@Mr.SugarFoot]

You should never accuse anyone of stolen valor unless you can back something like that up! Nice eyeliner you FAKE POLITICIAN!

[@georgewashington3555]

Igolf PoopyPants: A young Donald Trump was seemingly in good health when he graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 1968, as the United States was mired in one of the bloodiest years of the Vietnam War. The 22-year-old - who was 6 feet 2 inches tall and an athlete - had already avoided the military draft four times in order to complete his college education. But that spring, as he was set to graduate, he received a diagnosis that landed him a fifth draft deferment that would once again keep him out of Vietnam: bone spurs.

[@bmjpdx9222]

Memo to J.D. Vance: Crank up your indignation, then ask your boss what bone spurs are.

[@deebarnard5439]

So, serving 24 years in the national guard is not valid service to country? Wrf weirdos

[@itsallminor6133]

To me it is. But. Not that serious. I mean. It's just the national guard. One weekend a month hang out wash the trucks, move some boxes and go home

[@christinegreenberg1145]

it is a VERY part-time commitment......................very few National Guards get called to War..............when Walz was called, he quit.

[@asterixdogmatix1073]

@@itsallminor6133 National Guard units deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan.

[@OurLordandSaviorSigmar]

​@@itsallminor6133 that's only during peace times. National Guard units when activated during war serve months at a time.

[@bubbiesdad]

@@asterixdogmatix1073 Walz, wasn't there.

[@constancedean8047]

I love it. A defender of a draft dodger questions someone who volunteered to join in service of our country.

[@johnroberts5637]

"Don't pretend to be something you're not" coming out of JD Vance's mouth has to be the hypocrisy highlight of the day.

[@lovemypets254]

Vance claims that the Vp plane is his already!

[@CP-mw2iv]

Vance has changed his name and identity so much, even he's not sure what he is.

[@jackmannion143]

Isn't kamala Indian.. you want a link to a video where she says it ? Just so you can have factual info to base your opinion on . I'm not a trump supporter either thankfully

[@hauntedhose]

Trump Vance 24’ 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 America first 🙏

[@darkgalaxy5548]

JD never claimed a rank he hadn't attained.

[@grandmarie7638]

Jd spews vile garbage. Gov. Walz dedicated decades to our country in the military. The oath is to the defense of our country, our Constitution, NOT to a war. How can anyone, especially a veteran, make such a horrendous accusation concerning the nature of the Governor's military service. The fact that he served over 20 years is admirable and I, for one, am extremely grateful for his readiness to protect us from both foreign and domestic threats. Shame on jd. Stolen valor my behind!

[@ValeskaTruax]

He even re-enlisted after 911. He retired more than a year before that deployment.

[@og-up4rt]

Waltz got a paycheck and quit when his unit was deployed to Iraq

[@beatlloydy]

​@@og-up4rthe retired a year before deployment as his wife was having a baby after years and years of IVF. He was also over 40. Vance was a frigging journalist not an active combat marine😂

[@kimhorne-fortner3938]

Gov Walz had every right to leave at anytime. He was going to run for Congress so he retired. Vance never saw any combat so he doesn't have a right to say anything. This was a very one sided conversation.

[@bubbiesdad]

Walz never saw combat.

[@pmclaughlin4111]

For most of his time in, the United States was not at war. Walz engaged in mostly disaster relief and humanitarian efforts. In 2003 he deployed to where the government sent him in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. What part of that do you have a problem with bubbie

[@salicecanady6522]

@@bubbiesdad Walz was in situations training and supporting combat units. Vance led journalists on tours in Iraq for three year, a relatively safe duty because the government does not wish to put journalists in harm's way if it can be avoided. And, Vance spent the last year of his army tour in North Caroline. Walz is familiar with weapons of war, knows what they can do and can speak with authority about their not belonging in the hands of regular citizens.

[@bubbiesdad]

@@salicecanady6522 Vance spent time in Iraq, Walz pushed papers in Italy and stateside.

[@SocioRadio]

He was 41 years old when he left the National Guard. Come tf on.

[@carlyar5281]

Walz left the National Guard one year older than Vance is today. Vance isn’t even old enough to have served as long as Walz did.

[@NorCalPhil]

LOL JD rode a desk writing press releases during his *checks notes* 4 years in the marines. Not to mention Mr Draft Dodger himself “bone spurs” Trump.

[@Catinthedesert]

I can see how DT bonded with his immaturity level.

[@cynthiahawkins2389]

Retired English teacher here. Watch your headlines, guys. A WALTZ is a dance, written in 3/4 time, popularized by Johann Strauss. WALZ is the last name of a popular, well-respected Minnesota Governor, now the chosen running mate for Kamala Harris.

[@azucarinho1]

... the incorrect use of lose, losing, loose, loosing . . .

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

Either way Walz will waltz into the White House come November 💙

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

​@@azucarinho1 and those who spell Liar as lier

[@KCmidwest-wm9jd]

I spell liar = drumpf.

[@Hykje]

The spelling confusion probably is a mix-up with the last name of two-time Oscar winner Christoph Waltz.

[@davidk2906]

So according caustic Vance, if a soldier is ordered NOT to be sent a combat zone, than there must be something wrong with that soldier. It's his or her fault to not be sent. What's wrong with obeying orders Vance?

[@Carol-rm3mt]

Why did Trump have bone spurs every his draft number came up???

[@timbarnhart3121]

“Do not pretend to be something that your not” Vance your whole existence is pretending! You are sooo fake… really good 😆 😂😊

[@kated9914]

JD Vance: "joined the Marines in 2003 and served as a combat correspondent - or military journalist - until 2007"

[@TrevorReznik-pi7bc]

He stayed in the rear with the gear.

[@JamesBarner-lz3lg]

Thats ALL he did?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheProsparity]

😂👍

[@barbra7562]

JD Vance says do not pretend you are something you are not! The irony!

[@whimsicalhamster88]

JD is big mad he can’t get near a couch without it tensing up in fear.

[@kevinlindsey6862]

Jd wears his pants 👖 backwards! All you need to know 😂😂😂😂😂

[@intercat4907]

Maybe the couch likes it. Have you seen the way it's upholstered?

[@MyodbHW24_USA]

Let’s ask Lt. Bone Spurs what it’s like to serve the country, besides being a joke of a president

[@michael_stocker]

Why is MSNBC so afraid to call the kettle black?

[@brotherhiram5682]

I spent 2 of my 33 year career deployed. Jethro Vance was too weird to serve more than 4.

[@Zero_Point_Energy1]

Stolen Valor is when someone says they have military or combat experience when they don’t. Has Walz ever claimed experience he doesn’t have? BTW - two words: bone spurs

[@tomdavies9662]

As Shady Vance is claiming in his hypocritical criticism. Regards from a Tom :)

[@RadioAaron]

JV Vance has no idea what stolen valor is.

[@tedsperos1620]

Interesting. I have yet to see an incident of stolen valor by a Democrat. Every one I've seen reported it was a Republican. But that being said, since when was J.D. Vance in a combat zone? Yes he served as a Marine in Iraq but it was as a combat correspondent for six months in late 2005. He was in Public Affairs for God's sake, never, ever in harm's way. He even said himself he was "lucky to escape any real fighting". Look it up.

[@SteveandLizDonaldson]

"Not getting a venereal disease was my Vietnam" remember when spankie said that? I think jd should avoid the military one upmanship.