JDM Heroes - 22B vs TME

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We take a ride in two 90's Japanese rally icons. The awesome Subaru Impreza 22B and Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 6.5 Tommi Makinen...

[@poundstone1000]

Evos are red, Subies are blue. Both goes off, braaaaaaap stutututuuuu.

[@cnvq8833]

Cringe

[@miles6790]

Evos are red, subies are blue, both there engine go boom

[@mopar21]

@@miles6790 says the guy who doesn't know the difference between there and their.

[@hyun4963]

evos are red, subies are blue. both goes off, Microwave!

[@AbsoluteAbsurd]

애정Hyun smh xD

[@julianlee2]

the problem with WRC these days....the cars they race just don't have the hero status like these two...i mean a ford fiesta or toyota yaris arent exactly a poster car are they

[@brunoGRful]

Exactly!

[@Zerofightervi]

julianlee2 Homolagation, that's what the WRC needs, I actually think the Yaris WRC looks utterly ridiculous, but it's also my favourite of the new age WRC cars. Toyota has made a limited edition Yaris but it's a FWD, superchargered 1.8 with, so nothing like a WRC car.

[@nickmendez3707]

Zerofightervi if they produced their special edition cars like they are seen in wrc they would be incredible

[@nickmendez3707]

Zerofightervi the only one that's done it so far is the Focus Rs

[@drhanifp]

Perhaps it reminds us about group B rally? Remember when the cars which competed in that era was just a little hatchback (205 or austin metro)

[@longtailgt]

There's just something about the 90s JDM cars that makes them really special. I can't quite put my finger on what it is. We had Evos, STIs, Skylines GT-Rs, Silvias, Supras, Integras, RX-7s and what not. It makes me sad that all those cars (and days) are gone.

[@mappy-5934]

The last sentence in your statement answers why. Nowadays they make stuff for economy and pretty much have extracted all the personality their pre-2000's counterparts had. They stopped being reliable tuners and started to be the cars you buy for your kids. Most people dont even know that honda's civics used to be/could be souped up for racing;Spoons. Same with subaru/mitsubishi and their rallying scene.On top of all that, they were affordable. Look at the GTR now, compared to its r32/33 counterparts, even adjusting for inflation, they were cheaper and still are. Plus in japan, their car ownership tax process eventually causes the cars they own to be scrapped because itd be financial suicide to continue the ownership. Youll have to read more on that though as I only know very little about it. TL;DR: JDM went to Economy groupings and put off their racing group(what made them) to people with who have money out the ass to by these, once, exhalted cars;Exclusivity.

[@longtailgt]

Thanks for the information.

[@heamees4822]

BlackWind Would add NSX to your list. But luckily the Supra is making a return in 2019

[@longtailgt]

Hea Mees I was talking only about cars which are not made anymore. With the lucky exception of Subaru, all other cars have beeb discontinued. So the NSX doesn't count.

[@heamees4822]

BlackWind Well the only thing that new and old NSX have in common is their name, otherwise two completely different cars

[@zcplayer1]

I m a Mitsubishi fan boy, but still I love those amazing Subarus, they both are amazing.

[@AK-mh4zb]

Evos suck, Subies rock

[@markopetrushev3084]

im afraid its the other way around ... o.o

[@jeraldc.1729]

Currently drive an '08 STI..but I love EVOs...would love to own one.

[@sazzayilmaz5055]

i own a 2004 blobeye impreza, am too young to own a turbo yet cuz my countries laws suck, but love it. especially the features for a 2004 car. im 2nd owner too watta bonus mate. im buying my mate an evo just so we can drive out together❤❤. im a gc8 chassis fan tho. 22b is my fav car

[@the_sapph1re370]

@@AK-mh4zb Diamonds are forever. stars will eventually die.

[@GoezThex]

This is what rally I remembered, Subaru vs Mitsubishi

[@LeadFootash23]

Japan really need to get some cars back into WRC. It just isn't the same without them.

[@gerijokub7737]

Toyota is currently dominating the WRC (as of today), but it's not the same as it was in the 1990s.

[@matthewkummerfeldt9795]

Watch launch control, they got some pretty good drivers

[@Kobegaku]

本当にそう思う

[@RedPanda555]

What a shame the 22B owner replaced those beautiful original gold BBS rims with some generic looking silver rims.

[@Tox1cAshes]

RedPanda It’s back on the originals

[@kenshien544]

Maybe to preserve the original ones

[@turkishcypriot8013]

13 October 2020 22B sold in Norwich city/UK all original 270 miles on the clock and price was £ 295.500 pound

[@Justinhomii]

Silver looks incredible m8

[@shaeerhassan8588]

Beautiful cars and would still rather have one of these two of any newer cars

[@BobC59]

Shaeer Hassan Yep. Got a 92 GT-R in my garage and prefer driving it over my nice 2015 german sorts sedan. I SO wish japan was still making great driver's cars...

[@emmetharte3718]

Absolutely!!!

[@thumpertorque_]

That Evo has to be the most nostalgic and the most 90's looking car. Even if you don't know shit about cars, you look at it and you can tell it's from the 90's.

[@kashv2500]

22b 💙 just needs the original wheels back on it

[@Torque-GT]

You'll be pleased hear this 22B is now on the original alloys ;)

[@miguelfreitas1991]

and the silly gauges in the dash ?????? lovely work from you guys though

[@paranoid9678]

and a pink logo in front

[@Okipouros]

pink logo is stock!

[@MrSutekii]

Why you would modify a 22B is beyond me. Way to devalue it.

[@ajoo129]

Colin McRae & Tommi Mäkinen

[@overslepttt]

And here i'm wondering why you guys only have 2K subscribers. Amazing work.

[@DamianSupra]

they need to post content more regularly. but class content nonetheless

[@Torque-GT]

Thanks for the kind words, we're very keen to produce more regular content but not compromise on quality. The plan is to release regular shorter videos in the coming weeks so feel free to tell your fellow car mates to give us a follow! :)

[@zenmount6924]

Yes, I too, came in expecting to see over a million views. Quite surprised! Terrific production work!

[@coscorrodrift]

Woah, true that. How did a 3k subs channel get 2 cars this iconic? Love it.

[@andengalvarez9556]

yes yes, good work messrs

[@Spiritual_DriverAE101]

As a Subaru fan and owner; I love both name brand and both cars. 2 of the rarest cars. Along with the Toyota celica and many others. They are the legends of the 90s RIP Colin McRae.

[@badass6300]

I can't believe people choose between one or the other, I'd like both really. :D

[@lgz2006]

Both are my all time favourites... These cars shouldn't be separated, never *EVER.*

[@PPC4]

I genuinely felt sad watching that. We reached our peak in early 00's and pretty much most 'performance' cars since then have been about as interesting and fun to drive as a dishwasher. Who cares if you have 400hp in your RS3 it's driven by the pentium chip not your hands and feet. I really miss cars like this the only cars that have got close are the R26R for example.

[@vincentproductions8963]

Agreed, automation is good, but overdoing it kills all the fun, and makes life feel dull.

[@ToyoJ8]

Got a BRZ, best buy since the 90's

[@maverick2242]

Totally agree, been saying it for years, but millennials and boomers who must have the latest who want status over true visceral raw driver experience, you can’t explain it to them, they are sheep in a world of sameness!

[@tomahawkmedia2546]

Bought my JDM EP3 Civic Type R from Torque GT. Great company and the guys sure know their stuff!

[@bruteboy123]

Tom Hoare Can you post a video showcasing it?

[@tomahawkmedia2546]

Donald Grab them by the pussy Trump showcase is up :)

[@lukaszbat3733]

I love these Subaru cars!!! That low centre of gravity around the corners, no need to understand that they are Rally legends. But as a guy, that fix his own car on a sidewalk in front of the house I would go for EVO. Boxter engine is hard to work on, as to do for example a head gasket replacement you have to take the engine out, wherewith 4G63 you just go with it. Even the turbo is mounted in the front so you can replace it quickly if you running on a track. Well thank you if you read this comment in full, there is no such thing as a RED or BLUE. No matter what you pick they are legends and badass! ;)

[@Cosigner22]

You've clearly never actually worked on a Subaru if you call them "hard to work on."

[@lukaszbat3733]

@@Cosigner22 I worked on Porsche, Subaru and even an old VW Beetle. Every boxer engine is more difficult to work on, compared with any longitudinally, or transverse-mounted engine. You don't have to be an engineer to know that, is just common sense

[@buss1205]

@@Cosigner22 boxers are definitely more time consuming because of their layout

[@CarGuy87]

Oh the Gran Turismo days....

[@morreracingteam6004]

I still think GT2 is best gran turismo 🤙

[@avsommelie1440]

Recently I come across 90's cars driven by young people quite often. I don't know how the other countries are like, but Japan is like that, actually it is more often than late 2000's. I think it means even young Japanese don't really get atrracted to recent sport cars. I hope not only Japanese companies, but also car companies in the world think about that again. Young people's passion to sport cars will never change.

[@og.takumi]

Very true, but those new strict emission/enviorment laws around the world are killing sport cars out. Many goverments and big companies are focusing on building cheap enconmic cars and electric cars instead of performance cars. Time has changed, it's just sad :(

[@MrSneakmind]

This is beautiful, and true. I have been to Japan all my life for vacations, and yet only much later in my life I started to really love cars, and when I went back to Japan, excited to notice all the cars I would now see, I look at the cars and am ... apathetic. Kei cars are cool but I thought everyone would be driving cool cheap sports cars for some reason. Silly, and wrong. I did see a LanEvo though, and a stanced WRX. Maybe next time I'll see more. As for modern car companies, I think they are starting to care about enthusiasts, with GT86 and more new sports cars. Although Subaru and Mitsubishi will never be back again I don't think so at least :(

[@pet3r387]

I *came* across or I’ve come across.

[@GloomGaiGar]

cheaper, plain and simple

[@ColonelJohnmatrix1000]

Legendary cars and a awesome video, they don't make cars this good anymore. Even today these cars can hold there own against modern machines around a twisty mountain pass or B road. They were way ahead of their time and had a rawness and purity that modern equivalents cannot get even close to.

[@GloomGaiGar]

points at every track day focused road car like the Ariel Atom

[@mangoshake]

@@GloomGaiGar you're gonna have bugs in your teeth or a branch smacking your helmet if you drive it on the road. At least in an Evo or STI you have a roof that you can buff out later instead of a concussion.

[@adrianparada5950]

evo is one of the greatest car to come out of japan.

[@whitecunt6903]

Lol evo fan boys

[@Ssh52]

@@whitecunt6903 would you not agree?

[@Kenneth1350]

To me all japanese cars are good they hold a special place in my heart.

[@vividthespis]

I'm a Former STI owner from back in the day. A good friend of mine had one of these. We had such fun. Now it's 14 years later and memories are good. I respect the EVO. But my heart is blue. 💙

[@pgr3290]

I'm not a Subaru fan but the 22B is so very rare and special it gest the nod over the TME for me

[@jordanprice9285]

P GR i agree! Idk why, but I always felt the TME was just a slightly different version of a regular Evo 6..

[@steveblackbird5174]

The TME is quite a different car than the regular 6... Though the 22B is an awesome car..The presence compared to another WRX is next level...complete legend car.... I have a Makinen Edition.... Garage queen that's clocked up 23,800km since new.... as a Mitsubishi Guy... I'd park a 22B next to it any day... though funds say NO!!!! lol

[@lancermafia1982]

Mitsubishi's rarest evo is the Jackie Chan Special Edition. They only made 50. That car is way more rare.

[@Turbo.RF4]

@@lancermafia1982 but a 22B was more popular for car-guys and not special editions.

[@DGCastell]

can't believe how clean the EVO is after all these years, truly an icon.

[@gwflare1]

I can't tell you enough how much I enjoyed this. Your visuals and angles are stunning. Please keep up anything and everything you are doing!!!

[@StrumVogel]

Good ol JDM days. Nowadays everything is so big, it's difficult to park.

[@profrook]

will you, really? park any of that cars in public space? thats crime, for what? to get a hit from random SUV, where fucktards, erm sorry... kids are opening doors like they are escaping prison, or why ?

[@GloomGaiGar]

what....buy a small car then lol

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

@@profrook What do you mean parking cars is a crime? That makes no sense

[@profrook]

@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess Parking that cars in public place, not any. 😐

[@nokia.s3350]

My 2 favourite cars until now. I admit i like the old Impreza and Evo V and Evo VI models!

[@hanzanunno8860]

Old impreza and evo v more good looking impreza lama sama evo 5 terlihat lebih bagus

[@hanzanunno8860]

Evo 6 dari tampilan dan desain mirip tapi dari spek mesin udah beda

[@michaelbuck6414]

This is high quality content. I can't comprehend how you guys don't have more subscribers or views.

[@ColonelJohnmatrix1000]

How could anyone not loves these two legends.......there has never been anything since like them. Owning one would be only a dream.....

[@roddydykes7053]

The TME is so much less rare than the 22B, there's 2 in my city, whereas I'll likely never see an authentic 22B in my lifetime

[@lancermafia1982]

Well there is a more rare Evo called the Jackie Chan Special Edition. They only made 50, so good luck seeing one of those compared to Subarus 424 production.

[@HarryG98]

Lancer Mafia NO

[@blur4916]

@@lancermafia1982 actually there's the evo 6 extreme which is the rarest evo with only 29 being built

[@JoanTonyRevaldo]

@@blur4916 well actually there is a more rare evo called evo 11, no one on this world ever see them

[@mychannelforfun5523]

Red vs Blue always 😎

[@keiadam]

Red or Blue pills

[@fragu123]

For me the blue ones please.....

[@catmario9947]

I want the red pill

[@nope9713]

the red one pls

[@sazzayilmaz5055]

always mate❤❤

[@Mantenner]

Why don't you have more subs? This showed up in my suggested feed and I'm bloody glad it did! Brilliant video!

[@toadscrote123321]

Was always an Evo guy. Owned one and driven numerous others. But I recognise how great the Subarus are too. And easier to live with day to day. Softer ride and more feel to the steering. Also Evo running/maintenance costs are close to supercar territory. Still love em anyway.

[@AristidIX]

Evos are dirt cheap to own and super reliable. Had an sti and man was it expensive

[@JABelms]

​@@AristidIXOpposite here in the Philippines. TMEs cost 150K USD, most expensive acquireable Subaru (Bug Eyes) are $30K USD max. My Evo VII is 20+ years old and I got 60K USD offers recently.

[@limmel3588]

Your editing and way of delivery was top notch. Subscribed.

[@aeperformance48]

Great cinematography

[@zorpio6469]

great video dude, 90s were the best for these cars growing up playing with them on gran turismo, evos scoobys nsx skyline supras rx7s and so many legendary cars

[@GTChucker86]

I only own the gsr evo 6. But its been my dream to drive the tommi makinen version. Gonna install new coilovers soon

[@herihao797]

Great video. Those two cars made me love car and rally in my childhood.

[@StraightUpHippo]

Great video! Love the cinematic element, really adds to the viewing experience! :D

[@redcastle3522]

StraightUpHippo wow sup man big fan

[@darringranderson7898]

Thats one of the best sounding Subaru i have ever heard so far

[@carfanaticske8159]

This Rivalry will be heard and Witnessed and Read even in centuries to come....so cool.....

[@iwanta69rs]

just found your channel very impressed by your video reviews well done guys can't wait to see more! very good quality content

[@chrisdooley6468]

Top quality production values on your vids which makes me wonder why you only have 2k subs? Subbed and looking forward to more content on this level 😀😀

[@Ascottie75]

Ive still got my bugeye Spec C Type RA that i bought from you guys just over 2 years ago now. Its a awesome bit of kit, i should drive it more.

[@m3lowiesvlog715]

Right now 2017 they're still fast in the mountains.

[@andengalvarez9556]

well let's race in the mountains! I live somewhere in Andalucia

[@nickmendez3707]

Manual M3 Manual STI if you like tricky mountain style roads I would definitely recommend looking into a road trip through New Zealand.

[@coopsnz1]

Agree arthurs pass and Crown rangers

[@CGM350]

Peter Pacciani chill out ma dude respect other car enthusiasts

[@martin1226]

I love them both. How can you not ?

[@MrSneakmind]

that evo is SO BEAUTIFUL. I love me a modded Evo, but I would rock the 6.5 Evo with that livery if I had one, and DEFINITELY keep it bone stock. Do not usually care about keeping things stock, but WOW. Japan in the 90's was unstoppable. I wish I was more conscious than like ~2 ish years for it. I can't believe it is worth less than the Subie, I would absolutely pay more for it. The Subaru is also beautiful though, and a great and worthy opponent. But Evo is definitely the winner. If I can buy a car, it will be that car. God I hope I have a chance by the time I have enough money. So beautiful.

[@sodazman]

This channel needs more subs. Good content!

[@josho225]

the footage in the last minute is amazing. great ending!

[@georgesamartzis5770]

Rented a TME in Japan last year. Simply amazing car. I'd sell my 8 MR for it any day

[@christiantorres7644]

These 2 cars man... I love em , they have a special place in my heart!

[@DriversSide]

Your videos are so high quality and fun to watch! (just subscribed) Keep it up!

[@mickwrinkles2318]

That was rather well made. Really entertaining to watch. Thx.

[@WheelieCool]

Really enjoyed the video, great work!!! Subbed! 👍🏼👌🏼🍻

[@LGV904]

great video guys loved every second !

[@changosstrikefirst6921]

I gotta say this video is well put together great information on both icons ... And if i was a car collector with the money these two would be amongst my list ...

[@lmenzol]

love the 80s snthwave you guys use in your videos

[@mindflowers1792]

Damn I want that Evo. Both beautiful cars but there's something about the old Evos. Evo 4-6 are truly amazing

[@jackwood7691]

Amazing video , making my hangover very pleasant

[@thatonebeone]

I Love all cars.. it connects us all.. it's not just a hobby it's a lifestyle..

[@og.takumi]

the video production is amazing, keep up the good work

[@beefen7921]

gotta love the classic legendary Evo VI TME and STI 22B

[@PocketRockets]

Great work guys, smashin' it as always!

[@MatthewMaranan]

Subbed! Great video and looking forward to more from you guys!

[@Matt09pearce]

Im loving your videos! Very knowledgeable and buckets of research! Very good filming and editing! Getting a chris harris vibe! Also I'm not an evo geek, some fancy explaining the black doorhandles to me?

[@zukriuchen]

I loved the style of this video. Such a chill, laid back experience, with great production value. The voiceovers got a little TOO laid back, though, lol. There's a noticeable difference in the host's voice, and it comes off as a lack of enthusiasm (though I'm guessing it's a byproduct of how quiet recording studios can be). Still, great work! Earned a sub.

[@shirokurobear]

三菱からランエボは消え、インプレッサはファミリーカーと化してしまった 双方がバチバチやりあっていたWRCは憧れです Thank you for great video！

[@Roginator007]

Fantastic video guys. Big thumbs up from me.

[@BataLeonOnline]

Nice video, makes me want an Mak Evo now!

[@alexl.8441]

The red and blue rivalry! Such nice machines!

[@CarToneHK]

Say what you'll about e gentleman's agreement, but the horse power cap actually make them innovative in tons of different ways to make their cars, faster, handle better and saw through the biggest technological achievement in decades

[@Torque-GT]

The issue was that few were actually capped. Supra's and R34 GTRs for example were well over 300bhp in standard form.

[@Torque-GT]

But agreed, it no doubt had an influence on innovation.

[@steveblackbird5174]

Absolutely true... the Evo... In particular the Makinen Edition saw as much as 220-230 kw... which makes sense as the times these cars were pulling "standard" just wasn't right with the power to weight ratio... Hell, my stock Makinen pulled a 12.4 quarter mile at 3000km old...about 114-116mph..iirc,. the readout has long since faded to unreadable... sadly..

[@betogameplaysgb937]

@@steveblackbird5174 the 22b should be as fast idk

[@highoctanecars2149]

Well done guys! Great vid! Good times indeed

[@bearbum89]

Great video! Keep up the good work. Would love to see a nismo r32 gtr.

[@goncalogalhoz3833]

Congratulations for the vídeo. It`s very good. My favourite`s two all time WRC cars...!

[@airbustan]

Beautiful work!

[@dantevelez531dv]

That ending brings a tear to my eye

[@berko2243]

I love both of these! I am going to buy a 1.6l Subaru Impreza soon.

[@ian7675]

Great video, well done.

[@magic.42]

Definitely will drive these two other than these days modern supercars. Seriously. Rally, Mountain Pass, name it. These two are still awesome in those areas ❤❤

[@SubaruWRXspdManual]

Great vid. The 22b is absolutely my dream car. The TME is sweet too. If I came into alot of money, the first two cars I'd buy would be a 22b and a 2004-05 NSX.

[@angry.8]

Must be a new channel. Nice video quality, subbed.

[@leepunch2475]

The day I saw a TM Evo VI at a garage near my high school I couldn't believe my eyes.

[@genericdenizen1]

Great review. Absolutely loved my 2010 Evo X GSR. Sadly ruined by a truck with poor brakes. Really like my 2016 STI. Great cars, both a blast to drive. Nothing else like them really.

[@iantownsend500]

22b any day a complete legend of a car plus you got to love the sound

[@japowfk8998]

Seen this TME in person the thing is amazing

[@1889990]

Just discovered this great channel instant sub!

[@simonhartley2772]

I was always an Impreza man myself having owned both a Uk Turbo 2000 and then a P1. Watching through videos like this though is rekindling my love for these 90s cars. Perhaps a Scooby and an Evo would sit nice together in the future. Now I just need to wait to sort the funds, hmmm

[@collinsenosh]

Awesome cars, awesome video, THANKS!

[@gordonho5986]

So goood. thanks for making this video!

[@thicksixty2437]

Both amazing cars. Great video.

[@yifanzhang8669]

Loads of videos on amazing classics, and only 4 thousand subscribers? Never mind I m gonna be one.

[@madisonwalker8288]

that last clip is brilliant

[@andrewgraybill494]

Reminds me of being a kid riding my go kart in the woods acting like Richard Burns and Sébastien Loeb haha good times

[@Royalty232]

I appreciate these cars so much. I don't understand why car manufacturers are drastically changing the design of cars instead of keeping the original designs with only a slight modern touch. I understand areodynamics etc. are improved but seriously car enthusiasts take to a more original design. Some manufacturers pull off the refreshes but most fail, please revert back to the original styles because these look way better than any modern Subie or Evo.

[@alexthetic]

Ricardo Baharally lol they don't even make evos anymore

[@sgangsterxxxx]

Evo TME is such a gorgeous car

[@GalihRivky]

My first ever toy car is a lancer Evo.. My dad made me love that toy car

[@blackhogarth4049]

The Evo VI TME is my dream car. I don't ever want to buy a modern car because of all the comfort and electronics. Give me raw, unfiltered driving. There will never be cars like these again.

[@kaadparkour8383]

Beautiful machines, legends of rally, I love that cars.