How To The Planetary Smelter 🤖 Dyson Sphere Program 🤖 Tutorial, New Player Guide How To

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Todays video I'm going to explain my Planetary smelter, and explain that this is the main reason why I only every ship out raw materials when outposting or gathering rare materials, as having a large very large processing planet simplifies the logistics as well as the conquering speed of all new planets
Exact Ratios are
0:00 What increases in density after being smelted
3:20 Smelting on site, whats left 110 hours later?
8:44 Planetary Smelter What is it? How does it work?
10:50 Easily Tracking down supply issues
12:30 Simplified outposting
14:15 Simplified warp Logistics
15:40 Doubling your raw input logistics
19:55 The layered Lasagne method of smelting
22:03 What rare materials are worth processing on site?
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[@skyesfury8511]

Between JD and Nilaus, I'll never not be organized. Awesome guides, JD!

[@JDPlays]

practice practice and practice.... NEVER look at my first base lol

[@bubsyboy622]

Enjoying the content, the run-on commentary and cyclical dialogue fits perfectly with my own thought structure and I'll be binging your videos for sure. That said, it took 9 minutes for your planet smeltery tutorial to start going into planetary smeltery infrastructure :p

[@hershy1594]

I ran into the exact same problem in my second playthrough trying to get 1 k spm. Next playthrough I'm going to go with the planetary smelter idea as soon as I get to green science. I'm aiming for 10800 (6 belts) of white science per minute and 1000 dyson sphere components per minute. This set up makes it much easier to find out what your bottlenecks are

[@Proofman92]

Ok how much Smelters do we need? JD-Plays: Yes

[@jensenofc2011]

Noooice videos bro!! :D Just about to launch a serie as well, been trying Satisfactory out and loved it. But holyshit this game feels so smooth as well. I look forward to come just as long as you have done. :)

[@TheRussellStover]

Completely agree with the Unpolar magnets and copper. I was shipping back the raw material and adding copper but with the delay from 50+LY away and the massive amounts I needed I cut down shipping by 90% by just shipping the end product.

[@AK90]

I love these videos! Kepp up the good work JD

[@JDPlays]

Thanks, will do!

[@billlaporta7004]

I LOVE this idea. My first solar system is just about tapped. Looking forward to setting this up later

[@JDPlays]

Good luck!

[@dpw146]

That layering method is epic and I had never given much thought to the waste of time setting up small smelting area's.... this has given me a lot to think about. Thank-you

[@ZacDonald]

If you could stack vertical sorters, it'd be so much easier and look better.

[@JDPlays]

You're very welcome!

[@jordanrelkey]

Thanks, I've been thinking about building a Smelter-tron only processing planet too. I was going to setup another planet only for assemblers and have a third doing all the research and sphere building.

[@JDPlays]

why put research and sphere on the same planet? there are PLENTY to choose from!

[@unixtreme]

I just started playing and dude this is nuts.

[@Jules_Diplopia]

That makes such good sense.

[@staadecker]

Nice logistics 👍

[@Rogerfoulger]

really interesting, something I'd partially considered but not that organized. Currently just fixing optimization issues, defo something for second play through, the layering of lines was next level looks tricky to implement

[@ryankl1984]

I got 360 smelters per ore myself. If you want 120 assemblers making processors for quantium you need 360 assemblers making cpu components that in turn require lots and lots of silicon/copper smelteries.

[@LazyLoneLion]

Well, it's definitely more convenient. But to be fair, it's not just about density compression of "ore to plates". If you're transporting raw ores interstellar, then you spend twice as much warpers anyway -- because you first bring ore to the smelter and then you transport plates to the destination. When in case of in-site smelting you're delivering plates directly to destination. If the price of convenience of twice as many wapers (also twice as much energy, ~twice as much time, and so on) is good for you, then it's all good, anyway. Because it really **is** convenient.

[@Frstarcraft]

I really like the way you put your arguments around logistics. For me, i really don't like wasting warp core at all. In my own set up, i'm using them only to bring back ressources from 30 light years systems, i change unipolar to particle container on site then bring them back. Quantum chip and graviton lens are really expensive when you think about it, you need them for so many late game stuff, i'd rather put them on my dyson sphere factory and increase my white cube production. But you definitly on something about that "smelter planet". Since the logistics update i haven't try new "small" set up like that, great contents as always !

[@JDPlays]

Expensive is relative, everything is expensive to start with. By end game, i deleted a large chest FULL of green cubes because i didnt want to deal with it.

[@ryankl1984]

Everything is expensive if you never build a good robust supply chain. resources are basically "infinite" you just have to go out there and get them.

[@AJ213Probably]

@@JDPlays The most expensive thing in this game is your time lol

[@richardcagle5475]

I kinda do the same thing, but for each system I take. Not quite to the point they’re running out, but when they do I’ll set it up for raw easy enough later. Have a planet that’s almost completely covered w smelters and assemblers. Oh copyinserters mod is a fuckin must have

[@Marksman560]

Awesome episode. Reminds me of my playstyle :P Great minds think alike ^^ Actually (to compare), I made a 4-layer lasagna from 2 different interstellar stations (to circumvent the "10-vessel-limit"), just to feed 12 assemblers hydrogen to create Casimir crystals! Distance to the gas-giant was the main issue (like you forcasted). End-solution was, process some hydrogen at that gas-giant, and add dozens of orbital collectors at a more local gas-giant for use at my homeplanet.

[@JDPlays]

Oh nice!

[@badejong]

Wow! This is just how I build my smelters! But after 30 seconds into the video you have a change of approach.. 😁😁😁 Great video though.

[@JDPlays]

Yep i built one way early game and another way later in the game, personally early game works... late game the mass smelting planet works WAY WAY better!

[@Quizzicality]

I just spent 4 hours tonight creating a Iron, titanium and copper factory very similar to the one at 10:40. It takes FOREVER, I can't wait till someone makes it so we can put down a row of buildings all at once. Connecting them to belts is also a huge PITA.

[@DasLama69]

Already in game, go to settings, turn on god mode and placement auto moves so you just keep clicking. Install auto inserters mod and you are good to go

[@JDPlays]

Check this playlist... there is a mod that speeds up everything by also copying the sorters with the smelter

[@Quizzicality]

@@DasLama69 *screams internally* thanks guys!

[@Quizzicality]

@@JDPlays I assume you're talking about the mod "CopyInserters by thisisbrad"? (Which works like an absolute DREAM by the way highly recommend) If you've done a video about it I don't see it and I think you absolutely should!

[@GamingwithAccent]

As a person that works in a factory in real life. I love your thoughts about this game.

[@JDPlays]

Thanks!

[@GamingwithAccent]

@@JDPlays No problem. What you made in this video is what we call an "Offline".

[@JasonTHutchinson]

There are some bottle necks with the design. If you added some storage for the smelters, then you would be able to balance out some of the production in between deliveries of ore.

[@JDPlays]

Each smelter buffers upto 100 plate (and some amount of ore) its already balanced out without me needed to add storage. If i was to add storage it would be a second logisitcs tower as that thing holds 10K!

[@RobH73]

This guide is fantastic, I'm using it to build my own version now. Thanks. Question: how did you change to God Mode without accessing the settings? Is it an addon? Because I couldn't find a hotkey, and I'd love to be able to quickly toggle it like you did.

[@JDPlays]

mods :) there is a mod that allows toggling with a keystroke

[@0x0404]

I've been trying to conserve warpers. Still I smelt local to the star. Craft up as complex as possible as the system can manage then ship that to where it would need to go.

[@JDPlays]

Thats fine, im later in the game where warpers are much much less of a issue!

[@wushupower]

I solved this problem at very beginning by making them from green cubes. 3 matrix labs and 3 assemblers mk2 are enough to supply the entire empire with warpers

[@0x0404]

I'm just being needlessly miserly with resources. Yes I won't go to all the stars and mine them all dry but that doesn't matter. They are rather cheap when you make them from green cubes. Very cheap.

[@oLaudix]

Am I crazy if I send ore from my home planet away only to ship it back as plates? I mean i know its inefficient but i prefer to waste a bit of energy and slap 2 - 3 more logistic towers than having sea of smelters on my production planet.

[@MrRabbiTricky]

I am wondering if the devs keep it like this with the unpowered logistic stations. Feels a bit off to me. And i hate the blinking icon, so i always power them anyway. Nice video again JD, good to see we think alike when it comes to interplanetary smelting ;)

[@tomwallen7271]

Powered, but without their own ships? One of the big reasons to do this is to not have to worry about getting warp cores out to these edge planets.

[@MrRabbiTricky]

@@tomwallen7271 I have warp cores enough, so i also fill all my interplanetary towers with warpers and full with drones. Nevertheless i would get rid of that blinky no power sign even when not filling them ;) EDIT: Not fill them with 10k warpers, but 500 each

[@JDPlays]

blinky go away? put down some power and remove it instantly as long as u dont add ships the blinky will never come back!

[@MrRabbiTricky]

@@JDPlays Ah ok, also nice to know. Thx!

[@sophiathekitty]

The main thing reason why I would or wouldn't smelt on site is how many things are made from the raw resource. I've added 6 conveyor rings around the equator. I was smelting copper and coal where I was mining them.... And also processing oil... Stone and iron ore were being sent to the ring as is so I could smelt them on site where I was using them.... Not sure if this is the best idea..... I've only got 145 hours in the game and I'm struggling to make enough processors and really everything after red science.... I'm taking a break because my wrist was hurting really bad the other day... The last irritation of my ring setup is just raw materials going to a smelter area that's making all the stuff I can smelt on that planet. I've never left the first star at this point.

[@JDPlays]

stone, makes brick and glass, iron makes magnets and iron plate... everything the raw materials have no use

[@MiseRaen]

I don't really like the lasagna method due to the confusion that it gives me. Rather my setup has belts be sandwiched between the smelters so that one is for the input and the other is for the output. The copyinserters mod is really helpful in this case as the setup is already compressed and doesn't really require a long line that would go over the building range.

[@JDPlays]

i understand it was a PAIN to build!

[@kirbyone]

One might even call it...a forge world 👀

[@koczka190]

The Emperor Approves :D

[@JDPlays]

lol

[@cabellism]

My toaster sense is tingling... Praise the Omnissiah!!!!!!!!

[@RacinJsn]

I just discovered that you can get deuterium from the orbital extractor over the gas giant...

[@josefk455]

👍

[@urstaxfetish1206]

Their one more bottleneck which is the number of ships... So depending on how much titanium ore you are mining... If it in more 15 seperated locations (planets) you may want a second station to add 10 more ships.. You can also just link warp cores from one station to another with a belt if they are really close

[@JDPlays]

feeding one station into the next is the best way to keep the ore flowing, i recently feed 3 stations together to get the thruput i needed mainly because of low tech

[@jonathanfair6001]

You talked about limits and 10 ships being 10,000 at max research. I'm at 800 per ship currently (should be 1,000 soon) but was def running into limits at 120/s where the station couldn't quite keep up. You showed 270/s, which feels like it might blow the station out pretty easily. As that is 16k resources a minute, and a vessel is likely to take about ~1 minute round trip to get there and back. So any testing on what a "reasonable" limit would be to a single station? I get the idea of adding a second station, which you recommend if you are hitting the limits, but just wanted to try and get some rough ideas on how much output a single station could handle with its 10 ships. Seems to me, rough assumptions, 10k resources, at 1 minute travel time average, would put you at a cap around 166/s. Is that 1 minute assumption reasonable?

[@jetah50]

dont forget there's an infinite research for drone travel speed which will hasten the non-warp travel times.

[@JDPlays]

so infinite tech makes the larger vessels go faster as well as the smaller drones. so dont have enough resources? add a 2nd tower, feed it into the first with belts. Still not fast enough have drones also make the small short hop carrying 100 each, still not fast enough add a second tower with/without more belts and add more small drones. The only limit to the system is 12 output belts at 30 items per second between vessels and drones there is no limit to how much one of these can import!

[@jonathanfair6001]

@@JDPlays oh, brilliant! I am working toward white research now, so I look forward to super fast drones hahahaha! I'm in the process of moving bases to the hottest star in the galaxy, which also has multiple planets. I wanted to do my blue giant just for fun, but it only had one super tiny planet in the spawn... So I'm going with the hottest and brightest instead. Loving all your videos! Keep em coming!

[@0x0404]

You could consider using more logistics and less belts. Imagine how many logistics worth of belts in COST you have. It is under and around a few hundred belts, and that was just tier 2 belts, for the price of an intergalactic logistics.

[@Raveman-oc8uf]

Belts require no power.

[@JDPlays]

I could, but by my first example was on my 2nd planet when i had no logistic towers, my 2nd example was once i had all the tech and everything i could dream of

[@Hexadris]

but if you have a station like in your example smelting 270 copper a second, that would burn the entire load of a vessel in less than 4 seconds leading to you needing to have actually have a ship arrive and unload atleast every 4 seconds, how actually is that supposed to not inevitably throttel with only 10 vessels

[@ibrudiiv]

Yep I'm on that point now where the logistics vessels are the bottleneck. I have continued researching the logistic vessel speed and just need to put down more towers. I'm sure further updates will continue to rebalance and resolve issues, the game is in early access after all.

[@JDPlays]

did you see the end of the video where i feed one station into the next? Well there is nothing to stop you daisy chaining that Since recording this then I've upped my consumption of some items and have a 2nd station feeding into the first. Or plan B just put down a second tower and half one tower feed half the smelters and the first tower can feed the other half. this is a very flexable system that can scale quite large

[@PeterTpan]

now if only we had some sort of reliable blueprint system :D

[@JDPlays]

the mod that i featured in the playlist is 99.9% reliable from what ive seen Link: kzbin.info/aero/PLnIE0W-m629dUd5lfNF2EQEx6eskER_Gm

[@PeterTpan]

@@JDPlays oh cool, thx :D

[@lillysmith6123]

The one thing I really want to know is: How do I copy and paste a build?

[@JDPlays]

I don't have the exact video link but its in this playlist kzbin.info/aero/PLnIE0W-m629dUd5lfNF2EQEx6eskER_Gm

[@lillysmith6123]

@@JDPlays Only thing I see there is about the copy&paste mod, which only lets you copy a single machine with its inserters. I want to know how to copy&paste *planets*.

[@skyeplus]

@@lillysmith6123 There is an experimental mod for copying planets.

[@wushupower]

I think your silicon smelting facility isn't large enough. I made ~1300 processors per minute and clearly needed ~6000 silicon ore to be smelted, which translates into ~300 smelters. Could you please show your setup?

[@ryankl1984]

Yeah, its 2 silicon bar per component 1 copper. I think its consumed in 4 seconds in the assembler. produced in 2 seconds in the smelter. so 120 smelters can feed 120 assemblers. but then the processors are 3:1 for the components.

[@JDPlays]

just build a second, or a third or a 4th!

[@BlaCKNeSS455]

We need an upgraded smelter and maybe even a miner

[@Rogerfoulger]

if you use mods there are updated miners or alternately you need to do the research that speeds them up and uses less resource (for miners)

[@JDPlays]

ive done plenty of research i think my miners run at 2x normal speed now

[@RacinJsn]

You lucked out with your starting system, all I got was a planet orbiting a gas giant, a lava planet and an ice planet...

[@ryankl1984]

At first i was mad I didnt start out with a lava planet, but now im really happy i got 2 moon like planets with tons of soil piles and 98% build space.

[@MrKillerlover123]

the late game in this game is so fun to play and with the logistic tower really easy to play without headpain ! Upscaling !!!!

[@tomwallen7271]

I dunno. I feel like I have totally scuffed my logistics system in my playthrough. I have interstellar stations scattered all over my planets and it's almost impossible to set up warp drives between them without the longest belts ever made. For my next playthrough, I'm definitely gonna be consolidating all my interstellar stations in a single hub for easy core management and have them distribute to and from planetary stations that are closer to my production lines.

[@poppyrider5541]

@@tomwallen7271 I had the same problem. I set up one tower to request green cubes from out of system, convert to warpers then places little towers next to my big ones just to feed.

[@ibrudiiv]

@@tomwallen7271 I know you would lose one slot but you can request space warpers (set to 100) on them :) Just spam towers everywhere, we're all doing it anyway. :P

[@tomwallen7271]

@@ibrudiiv Yes yes I know I know. I really would hate to have to go back to my towers now remove one of their active slots for graphine or whatever, just a request warpers and do that across every logistics station I have. I think the better system is to again, have a single hub on a planet for all of the interstellar logistics stations, just run belts between all of them to spread out your warpers. And then have those stations ship goods to the local planetary stations that are actually integrated into your production lines. To me that seems like the most logical setup

[@JDPlays]

I actually just ran belts from tower to tower, didnt matter the distances or angles because i was ALWAYS a stone throw from another tower, so they all daisy chain from one to the next

[@tomduke1297]

its "Casimir" not "Kaschmir". you know, like the "Casimir Effect" from your highschool physics class: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

[@JDPlays]

highschool was so long ago!!! I don't remember anything let alone how to pronounce a word i probably havnt used since highschool lol

[@tomduke1297]

@@JDPlays school never stops! ;)

[@ryankl1984]

@@tomduke1297 Like hell it doesn't. LOL

[@laweh]

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[@franfrandideldu]

is there a hotkey for godmode? :O u used a hotkey for it, didnt you?? 😱

[@JDPlays]

Mods my good sir Mods :)

[@franfrandideldu]

@@JDPlays jeeeeeeesus!!11 what is the name of the mod? Is it in "r2modman"-dsp"? Sry for my english. Greetings from Merkelland and thx for your Content Sir!

[@richardcagle5475]

Lul. Developers made this game using a 1660. If you can’t run it decent you definitely need to upgrade

[@chengong388]

Tired of these lazy unscripted unedited videos, get to the points