JEEP & BRONCO OFF ROAD - It's Easier Than You Think!

[@hjstrater]

On that Noco boost pack, you can still jump a fully flat battery. Hold The “!” Button for 3 seconds and it turns off all the safety sensors and just puts out power.

[@jackantinore6803]

Same one I use and pressing the ! Usually works but not always

[@kyleferrey9630]

I was going to say the same thing. I have jumped many dead batteries with it.

[@CHWY-bu5jc]

I was litterly coming to comment the same thing!! Lol. I use them in a daily bases.

[@eliotvancil]

I was going to say the same . I usually hold down the “!” until it starts flashing and then connect it to the battery. It’ll start it 👍😎

[@zachkyukca1291]

Can confirm

[@CDNBVR1]

Both of you are GREAT teachers!!! What you said on this video is common sense, but most newbies don't know it yet. This is one of your best teaching videos to date. I'm sure that many people watching this will want to see more of them. I know that I do. Keep up the great work that you do.

[@rodnjosh]

Absolutely awesome. Yes, we need more instructions on the two footing, specifically when you use them, and when you don't. Thanks for all you guys do. Love the shop repairs also, with Chris and Bec.

[@ddavismt]

Yes, Please

[@bradmeacham6982]

In my experience with old school "part time" 4x4 systems, you should not use 4H on dry pavement for any kind of extended period, especially when turning. The reason is that in part time transfer cases, the front and rear driveshafts are locked together in 4H/4L and turn at exactly the same speed. When all 4 tires have equal traction on dry roads, this can lead to drive line binding, which can be very detrimental and may even lead to broken components. This is especially true when turning, which requires the front axle to turn slightly faster than the rear axle. As long as the driving surface allows for some kind of slippage between the front and rear axles, like when on snow & ice or dirt/gravel or when truly off-road, part time systems can be easily shifted between 2H and 4H at speed. None of this applies to a "full time" 4x4 system because they have some kind of clutching system between the front and rear drive lines, which allows them to turn at different speeds to prevent drive line binding. However, a good full time system designed for true off-road use will still allow you to lock the front and rear driveshafts together (AKA "4H Locked").

[@lylejohnson4425]

Exactly what I posted too

[@LiteBrite]

This is 100% why we mention inclement weather & when you would use this at-speed shift method on road. Also, Lyle, that’s not what you posted at all. Lol Not even remotely close. 😂

[@lylejohnson4425]

@@LiteBrite u camage u transfer case or blow up transmission because of the bind in the suspension and input shafts can bind up or when having a locking differential in the axles

[@LiteBrite]

Absolutely not the case in either of the vehicles we were driving or in the scenarios that we covered.

[@bradmeacham6982]

@@LiteBrite Apologies... I completely missed the inclement weather mention.

[@anthonycruzjr.5323]

OX Lockers. You can accuate them by Air, electric, or manual and they have a Bolt you can screw in the diff cover to lock them in an emergency. Built incredibly well.

[@JeepinBirdJLU]

I was about to comment the same thing. It seems like they are not considered by most. I have an ARB in the rear and an air actuated Ox in the front.

[@pjkotze2307]

Maybe one exception of rear lockers going down, is when you go down a long / sharp dune. We have a lot of that here, and I have found / learned from more experienced people than me, it stabilized it a lot (talking 45 degree dune slip faces). On these types of dune turning going up or down is a bad idea in any case. Awesome video.

[@franksmith9954]

I am so glad y'all are able to show these techniques. I have been wheeling for over 30 years 👍for the teaching.

[@nocrackhere]

26:15 Decouple or uncouple?uncompleted? 29:58 Mrs. Williams explaining with awesome puppy like sound effects how the locker makes the tires squeal on pavement! Classic! Love it!

[@rugu6869]

Great video! Love it. I have a ton of track experience with essentially zero off-road experience. Love the technical information during the explanations. Most people just don't realize why things are doing what they're doing. Very informative.

[@rugu6869]

Almost forgot! Two footing on the track is used to help with weight transfer and to enable you to get back onto the throttle really quickly. It's more of an advanced technic for the track and sounds a little bit of the same for off-roading. If you would please touch base on throttle accelerators (pedal boxes). This makes the throttle a bit more sensitive to give you the illusion the vehicle is "quicker" to react and feels "quicker." Sounds like this is the exact opposite of what you want to do off-road.

[@psychology2217]

For the majority of folks who do moderate off roading with older rigs that do not have lockers. The two footing method can help your open differential send some power to the wheel with traction when you apply some brake pressure at the same time as throttle. Obviously picking the best line is always the first choice, but that isn’t always an option and it will help reduce wheel spin so that you don’t break things.

[@petersantulli2337]

Great video guys!!! I'm always interested in hearing techniques from people weather it's 101 or more in depth. No matter how much you've done, you can always learn something.

[@jasonkaram1034]

Love the comment about 2H and 4H and the winter stopping vs accelerating. I live in Maine and the number of people who drive in the snow all the time think it's about accelerating, not stopping. It's almost ALWAYS about stopping. Acceleration is always secondary. Great point and thank you for pointing that out.

[@obliquetew]

I’m an old man who has wheeled most of my life. I’ve never seen a better basic set of instructional tips for non gear heads. I think you should continue to level up the info in future vids.

[@pennypackmtb2542]

I remember my first 4 wheel drive vehicle and going out to test it in the snow. I learned very quickly, before damaging anything, that it had the same stopping power as any other car on the road. YES, you get a false sense of security with a 4x4. 4X4 will get you there, but be aware of your grip for stopping issues. Love the Ian Johnson look. LOL.

[@jamesgardner4126]

I run truetracs front and rear and two footing is definitely a requirement. When you have one tire with little to know traction and you might think the helical gears are overwhelmed, but they aren't. They just require a little bit of traction to both wheels to properly proportion the torque. Adding a little brake pressure is enough to get the limited slip doing its job and pulling you through. Bonus is I never have to worry about electronics or air failing me. And I don't have the jarring of Detroit's cutting on and off at will either. Also for the same reasons Ford puts them in the front of Raptors, they are a ton of fun in the sand. And out in the open desert!

[@joshuatyson3497]

This was great! awesome to see experienced drivers give out helpful tips and how To's

[@fariteymourtash7101]

Thanks for the great video demonstrating different techniques. It’s very useful for off-road newbies such as myself. Enjoyed the info about bumping, differential lockers usage. The brake & throttle technique you mentioned at the end, is also used at the race tracks. We teach it as ‘left foot breaking’ technique to allow for smoother transition from breaking to throttle - I can see the application for off-roading as well. 👍

[@bobbendt1698]

Two footing, yes, hard to demonstrate but essential to off road training. I know many, many people that have never done it ( being taught it's no no on the street) but it is a necessary evil off road. Great beginner / refresher video. Thank you. To bad there is only a like button needs a love button on this one. Also you should show why you shouldn't follow to closely. This is something that I see a lot with all the new drivers to the sport.

[@Kylesjeep]

Absolutely I would love for you to go further in depth on this topic of off-roading and how and what you do to complete and or combat several different types of obstacles.

[@cjfazio3012]

Enjoying the video after being a new Bronco owner!!

[@ArkhamsFinest4]

Great instructional and informative video Brittany and Kevin. Appreciate all the hard work you all (Chris and Beck included of course) do with your videos. Thank you.

[@jeffro8373]

Jelly will teach Peanut what to do 🤗 . You guys are awesome, thanks for doing this. ❤❤💯🤙

[@Kenneth_R]

Thank you. I have never seen anyone explain it (switching from 2h to 4h at speed) so clearly. Awesome!

[@brianhenderson1178]

I have never commented on a video before (any video ever), I hope you read this. I have been watching your videos for several years now, along with Trail Recon and Marco and others. I just bought my Jeep 392 Reign Extreme Recon and can't wait to put it to good use. Unfortunately I have to finish paying it off before I break it :) This intro video is awesome, seeing what I have read and researched being put into actual use really helps. Please keep making great videos, I hope to get to Jeep beach next go round, would love to see you guys in person. Also your two cohorts that do a lot of the garage work for you as well. God Bless...

[@LiteBrite]

😁🤙❤️

[@D3thM3tal]

Good add on the two footed driving! It works well without lockers, it works well to weight shift into corners and it's a good wheel speed modulator. Not for street driving, great for trail driving. The Bronco has single pedal driving mode, which is esentially electronic two pedal driving.

[@ronbarry8542]

Always great educational content. Coming off of 5 years on a JLUR with 35s and now in a BadSquatch. Looking forward to the comparison on familiar trails in AZ/CA/UT/CO. Love you folks! (And Kev, now we're both 5'8" 😋)

[@artyseibert]

2-footing also helps prevent sudden loading & unloading of the drivetrain components as traction changes. This will help prevent breakage.

[@roderickhance2088]

Guys this was great, even for people who think their experienced, there’s always a tip or trick that can be learned from a more experienced wheeler, so I definitely think you should throw out little videos like this time to time. As always, keep up the great work 👍😃

[@markfilosi6967]

Fantastic primer on wheeling. It’s amazing how much 4x4 knowledge you two have. You can feel your collective enjoyment for the sport.

[@thesalesmansperspective3106]

I sell the Noco Jump Packs. After you turn the power on, hold down the red button for 5 seconds or until it clicks and it will turn on 12 volts to jump a totally dead battery. Works every time!

[@LiteBrite]

Well that’s great to know!

[@donwilliams3626]

Thanks for the high energy lessons about wheeling. Especially your sound effects of a welded diff turning on pavement!

[@johnpierce2569]

Excellent video. I understand that many may think this information is 'beneath them', but it is essential for some of us who are just getting into this lifestyle. I don't think I have missed a video for the last 3 years since we bought my wife's 2019 Jeep Sport S. I recently purchased a Jeep Willys 2dr and have begun modifying it and taken it offroad a couple of times already. This information is ESSENTIAL. Thanks so much for taking the time to help us on this path... this is so *)(&$% much fun!!! From Chandler, AZ with luv,

[@rockercover]

9:29 - Ran Armstrong Tru-Trac’s, *tubeless* . (Had a sand-clearing tread pattern), on 8 inch wide rims, below 15 PSI when needed. (mid. 1970’s, do not see that tread pattern today). (Slippery on the street, not the safest street tire). (Plus: Not mounted to bead-lock wheels). (Street legal vehicle also, at that time). Tires for the terrain provides the best drive experience. Good topics covered on your channel.

[@shimani141]

good info on 4h vs 4l and when to use them. and the strain on components. didn't know 4l would be less strenuous on the power plant and transmission.

[@juanzayas7719]

Thank you for a clear explanation of the use of 4 L & H and the use of lockers.

[@Daveinet]

Switching from 2 Hi to 4 HI works in Jeeps, but not every other vehicle. The OLD Bronco's you want to be moving less than 5 mph to shift. Otherwise it will damage the transfercase. I have grabbed the 4 Hi lever on the fly in an emergency swerve. Helped the vehicle stay straight driving through the median at speed. Electronic shifting into 4WD won't shift fast enough to do any good.

[@kayaduss]

This video is fantastic. This is exactly how to get more people into wheeling bravo you two .

[@susantreibs6593]

Thanks for explaining the 4 wheel drive, high and low at hiway speeds. Technology has come a long way. I had a Montero that you had to go slow to put in 4 high and go into reverse a few feet then going back to 2 wheel drive. And I remember my dad going into or out of 4 high? or low in a early 70's Jeep wagoneer that you had to shift from forward to reverse, and after locking the hubs.

[@94520shatto]

My 1960s Unimog had Manual differential locks. YES! Please do a vid on Left Foot Braking. I imagine it would save some running gear.

[@broncobros2022]

4A is an upgraded transfer case. Lower trim levels come standard without 4A

[@vdub5818]

I ALWAYS left foot brake when crawling over stuff. Helps with traction, but mainly for me it mitigates the side to side sway these jeeps tend to get. Makes the ride so much more comfortable and that really adds up after 10 hours on the trail.

[@titanx04]

Another early morning video here in Australia at 2am thank you. I’d never go from 2h to 4h on high grip surface due to bind up unless on straight, 4A fine

[@johnyd1911]

Was kinda shocked they did that.....

[@dkirk2580]

They said only in inclimate weather. It was done in the video for demonstration purposes and it was on a straight stretch of road.

[@LiteBrite]

On a straight road yes it’s fine but also you would never do it unless it was pouring rain or snowing. There would never be a reason to do it. The instructions were quite clear on when and why.

[@andyweber8606]

First, thank you for putting this together. This has great benefit to the community at large. I’d request that you show the different systems and how they differ in the way or when you can use the. For example, sway bars, in Stock JL’s you can only unlock the sway bars on some models (usually rubicons) in 4WD. It will only stay unconnected under 15 mph….confusing when your new and don’t understand this yet. JL’s with the manual transfer case can slip out of 4 lo when first shifted, hold the lever in 4Lo for an extra 4 or five moments (while rolling) to assure it stays in gear. I have friends that are afraid of 4 low because of this.

[@crank4b]

im so glad you mentioned modulating throttle and brake, or as I know it left foot braking, such a usefull tool, although i have a standard i still control with left foot braking, just a little bit trickier

[@trjnsd6874]

You two are so good at this, you should take this show on the road…oh, wait….! Nice instruction, and yes, interesting. Kevin taught me about two-footing off road on my first outing with LBN. Sand Hollow is so different after rains! Snow on the sand dunes was wild! Love that Jelly and Peanut. LiteBriteNationShowsTheWay!

[@husabergpower4700]

The problem with the dead battery could be the step sliders. I also had the problem that the battery died when my jeep was parked for a long time. The problem appeared after I mounted the step sliders. I now always switch off the step sliders when the jeep is stationary for a longer period of time. Since then I have no more problems.

[@jeeb4x4]

Some newer Jeep Wranglers also have 4-Auto selection in the Transfer Case. (My '95 Jeep GC has it also, NP242...). The newer JL's always(?) are delivered with this option in Norway, also the Rubicon with 4:1.😉🤘

[@robertwhybro607]

Hi Guys,,, Bob here from Australia 🇦🇺,, love your videos,,, LoLo 😂🤣,,, I’m knowing sooo many people Should watch this video of yours,,, Plain and Simple advice,,, sooo many Cowboys out my way…. Keep your Videos coming.. 😎👍👍👍

[@MZ-bl6wg]

Gotta throw out a Rest in Peace to fellow Utahn and Aitomotive LEGEND Ken Block who lost his life doing what we do in Utah , enjoying the snow. Prayers for his wife and children , and looking forward to his daughter Leah carrying the Block torch onward. He’ll truly be missed! My brother was on the rescue crew and commented on how we need to live and live every single day, you jsut never know when your time will come. Prayers for the Block family. Snowmobiling regularly where he passed it’s got me really thinking and being safer than I used to. RIP Ken.💜🇺🇸

[@rerod650]

Great video as always. As a future installment of this and future “beginner” videos I suggest a beginner jeep build. To mix it up start with a 2 door JL and build it for beginners budget off roading. And take it out to Sand Hollow with the Step or Demon Child to compare the capability differences in wheel base and build levels.

[@ChuckMiller-et8tj]

The demon child is my favorite of all your vehicles 💯

[@2Morethings]

I hope people get it and learn how to 4x4 properly by your awesome explanations of what and not to do's

[@zaphods2ndhead193]

Great video! While I am not a beginner, I am self taught by going out alone and in groups, watching lines, learning bumps, etc. I highly recommend going in groups, especially when you are new. I haven't tried two pedal. I, for one, would appreciate a video on it.

[@trailrunnah8886]

Excellent content! You two are great at this, you've explained it very well. I'm going to share this video in the Toyota groups I belong to, because a lot of these questions come up quite often since a lot of Toyota owners are also first time 4wd owners.

[@mikeshuck2760]

Great video! Covers a lot of basic explanations. With all the equipment in the shop, NO HIGH CAPACITY BATTERY CHARGER? Jump start a dead battery, and drive off. REALLY HARD on he electrical system. Always is and has been. Good way to smoke your alternator! Most batteries unless deep cycle don’t recover from being completely dead, ever!

[@TheGreatestShowman69]

Also worth noting a Antigravity lithium battery isn’t going to help you if there is a slow power draw that is sucking your battery dead. I used to watch this show called West Coast Customs and they would install battery isolation switches, just a thought.

[@LiteBrite]

It does help because it has a cutoff. It will put the battery to sleep so the draw won’t kill the battery completely. You hit a button to wake it up and it’ll fire the vehicle up no problem

[@TheGreatestShowman69]

@@LiteBrite no s*** Learn something new everyday

[@damianmartinez6086]

I don't even drive a 4×4 but I found the tutorial interesting and I would definitely watch more of them. 🤘🏽

[@redrubi3942]

Awesome video. Extremely informative. Knowledge keeps everybody safer and less likely to get in too deep.

[@elitehomebuilders6389]

i learned to rock crawl on an 85 toyota and had to 3 pedal that thing with open diff on the trails around Tucson. I wish you all would take an AZ trip

[@luke_atthat]

Very instructive video ! Thank you. Congratulations for all your entertaining videos!

[@rigez]

Awesome FYI/PSA with the dead battery jump!

[@deanarmbruster9012]

2 footing lol. Learned that in the 70s. On a 75 CJ 5. 3 speed manual.

[@CraigSimons]

Great instructions and guidance for new wheelers

[@karlbrown3214]

Kevin, like the growth spirt. The dogs are amazing, and thanks for the info on the lockers. As far as the NOCO I hear that if you push the power boost before connecting it to the battery will start an engine even without a battery.

[@FreakyT333]

Nicely done guys, needed none of these basic tutorials yet I watched and listened to every tip, trick and explanation nodding my head in agreement. If you do a vid explaining two footing to those who aren’t familiar maybe throw in some tips on how to not endo/roll coming down steep drops. I’ve seen so many people jab the brakes or turn away from the drop coming down because they panic.

[@ezrakedem123]

Grate vud as always!! Very informative. I am not a beginner but still earned a fue tricks and tips. Big tnx 🙏

[@dlessard2369]

If your battery is that dead hook up your jumper then turn on the headlights for 60 seconds to stimulate the battery so it will take a charge.

[@donmontalvo1]

Thanks for explaining "blowing your inner tire". I have ICON Rebound Pro, so I guess I'll stick with 15 or so.

[@willvanwey5199]

Yes, please show more information about two footing. Being new to off roading, I would rather learn from experienced people than the school of hard knocks. Thanks for all of your videos!

[@curtboroff]

You guys nailed it with this one. I’ll be suggesting this video to people for a long time to come. Great job and thank you.🍻 True Tracks fo’ lyfe!

[@johnbronco8678]

Probably the best of your videos I’ve ever seen! Very well presented and great info! Well done and thanks!

[@dwfeyock]

If you have a 3.6 jk with a MANual trans (see what I did there?) 4 low is required as soon as you leave blacktop lol. The minivan engine needs all the help it can get with 35s or bigger. Even with 4.10 rears...

[@drewt9829]

Great video. You two knocked it out of the park. This video will help so many people, even if they already know it all.

[@BaconCruiser]

That V8 growl is so perfect!!!

[@philamprincesa2079]

Very informative you guys.. 🙌🙌.. Demo's always on point and very relevant, especially to the newbie who wanted to learn accordingly... 🤙🤙👏👏

[@1a1u0g9t4s2u]

Great video. Beginner on the two foot technique, but fully understand your explanation on the difference of primary throttle and secondary braking vs primary braking and secondary throttle. Guess experience will determine which is best for the given situation. As always, thanks for sharing.

[@kaaawaz]

Love this video!! Thank you for explaining in detail, and showing what to expect, and showing what we should do. You guy's are awesome!

[@rinaldocatria4386]

Are you planning to put a catch can on the Braptor? Many say because it has only direct injection, it would be smart to install one.

[@maccam26]

From Jeep owners manual Shifting Procedures 2HTO4HOR4HTO2H Shifting between 2H and 4H can be made with the vehicle stopped or in motion. The preferred shifting speed would be 0 to 45 mph (72 km/h).

[@One_Less_Thing]

One of your best videos! Nice work! I do cheat with the 2 petal driving with my 4xe by using the “Max Regen” feature when off roading in 4Low.

[@davidmorgan2529]

Thanks for this video, for newbie’s just really getting into off roading this is probably the most informative videos I have seen. Thank you and please make more like this

[@ScubaDaveGSXR]

Also, just FYI, it is possible to jump start with only the jumper if you disconnect the battery. Effectively the dead battery is a load that pulls down the jump starter to a voltage that doesn’t work. So instead disconnect the red battery terminal, jump start, and then reconnect the battery. Now just make sure you don’t turn it off for a while, until it can recharge a bit.

[@fred993a]

Brittany - you are Kevin are wonderful teachers!

[@BG-vq9fd]

My Noco GB150 has an override to start completely dead batteries. It also displays battery voltage.

[@vernvartdal6479]

Nice simple explanations. Pretty much how I do it on everything. High centering is indeed a thing if you let off to early.

[@cccristol]

This is my favorite video you guys have done

[@davewhanger6722]

Found this very educational Thank you back in the day when I had myCJ3A/ CJ5 we did go fourwheeling and mainly in the mud and stuff no real rock climbing. But the locker information was very interesting and helpful. So when I hit a lottery it will help whether I buy a power wagon or a Jeep Or a older CJ LOL I love your videos keep up the great work!

[@lowbuckadventures]

Great video! I knew most of this already but I love the instructional aspect of this video.

[@da443-galmond4]

One of your most informative videos(IMHO) Nice to know about the 4A feature and how to use it properly. Kevin's demonstrations of how not to do it were a hoot. And yes to the 2-foot'n video as Kevin is always suggesting to people on the trail to use it. Great video.(Note to Kevin-Don't put so much emphasis that now you are taller than Brittany, suspect Brittany knows where the hair clippers are(and knows how to use it)

[@1971boss]

Hello Mr/Mrs lite bright. You guys are amazing. I have learned a lot from you. I am such a baby amateur with off-roading. I have a 2022 ford maverick with 2" lift and bfg ko2 with awd. I do not intend to do anything extreme. But the little adventures I do I remember the points that you say. I live in vegas with many trails. I think the level I am comfortable with probably a 4. Maybe a 5 but I am super cautious. Thank you so much for your help and expertise. I am starting my channel and hopefully I can do more with the truck

[@fotostephen]

great video!!! I am not new to off roading at all, but, it is always great to have a refresher..

[@Kylesjeep]

Thank you so much for this video. I’ve always been wanting to know when and where and how to be in either 4HI or 4LO. I have had my first Jeep for only a year now and I am now happy to know how to use my 4WD system now! Thank you for all that you do!!! ❤

[@garrymatthews4430]

That’s a great video for the basics and so well demonstrated keep it coming for us from the Uk who can only longingly wish we had somewhere to try it out

[@xw0lfpack91x]

The 4auto in the bronco is similar to the NP242 in XJ/ZJ/WJ Jeeps.

[@jimmyclements1327]

I've driven with both feet my whole life. No matter on or off road. Except with a stick of course. And that's very rare. Love the bronco. Although there's a part of me that is disappointed it doesn't have a solid front axle and a manual t case.

[@JEEP-N-DIRT]

Agree, the NOCO will start a dead batt. As for lockers, here's something I tell newbies all the time. The JL traction control is great, works well, and can help prevent axle shaft breaking since load is automatically being transferred side to side. That said when and when not to use is a function of the wheeling area so the best thing to do is watch video's like this then just go try things out and be sure to repeat the same obstacle with stuff on/ off / bypass, etc. exactly as you guys have done in order to gain that experience. I generally leave everything on even when crawling until I need it, but my JL is lifted with 38's and plenty of articulation which is also another factor when considering if manual mode is needed or not. If anyone happens to check out my channel, my fall video specifically the first and second trails in that video ("No Camping overlanding") no lockers used at all and while the video doesn't show the difficulty some of the areas were up to 26 degrees of side hill, incline, and off-camber in that park, and on hurricane creek all of the ruts were managed without lockers due to the amount of articulation and traction control. In the other video (AOP) the only time lockers were used was on the "blue" trail in the middle of the video where my JL and the white JK and the CJ tackled some large rocks and even then the JL made it up to the wall without lockers. So once again, really great content and I appreciate how you took the time to make this video as it's another example of how you guys like to help folks. Love it. !!

[@alvarobarrapontesnetoponte4913]

Hello from Brazil!!!🤜🤛 We love your videos

[@danny12002]

The Gladiator and the Wrangler do have an option for a 4 auto mode (at least on a Rubicon) it’s the 4:1 Rock-Trac Full Time 4WD System.

[@K0KWH]

Great Video, my compliments to whoever is doing all the editing and production! I think it's a great amount of information in the right amount of time. I didn't read all the other comments, but wondering if anyone mentioned not using 4 high (or low) when running on dry pavement, it's really hard on things.

[@TomSmith-nx3hx]

That was cool. Thank you for sharing driving techniques. Please do more on two foot driving.

[@dealy9268]

My issue is going from wheeling an automatic JK (2dr) and going to a manual JKU (4dr). Actually driving the JKU 6spd with that hill assist has been a learning curve. I keep giving it too much gas. LOL