I couldn't live without the daily "It's done" video.
@kwilliams19585 сағат бұрын
Wait until you see the "Well Done" Series!
@icosthop99985 сағат бұрын
@@kwilliams1958 L😂L
@mr_ice1179 сағат бұрын
Haha idk what that CEO expected, who gonna go 100,000 in debt for a crappy dodge product that won't last 3 years
@Dfgbuiiyyyybb6 сағат бұрын
That's exactly what I thought too but... I've see some Grand Wagoneers on the road as well as Cybertrucks.
@tb43266 сағат бұрын
You meant 12 months.
@ArthurIdis311 сағат бұрын
Let that P.O.S. company go out of business.
@hm-lu4ok10 сағат бұрын
they should have been allowed to go under in 08-09. instead they got a taxpayer bailout and here we are
@cardboardboxification6 сағат бұрын
@@hm-lu4ok it's a foreign owned company
@NeenerOops11 сағат бұрын
Hell with all of em. I was in market to buy, but Im not paying these stupid prices. Not that I CANT, I wont pay more than what its worth. I bought a Honda motorcycle instead. Very happy with it. Blow me automakers. And no bailouts this time. Not even 20 years later they are in another existential crisis. Pathetic.
@spiceyfrenchtoast94215 сағат бұрын
Congratulations on joining the Honda club!
@jwill54011 сағат бұрын
Every manufacturer happens to be turning into a luxury brand even though they already have luxury brands under the umbrella of corporate ownership.
@Oldcarnut636 сағат бұрын
Yes how stupid is that? Don't they forget the middle class and below need less expensive. Good size vehicles. They forgot about us
@jackblack388610 сағат бұрын
You're correct, rows of each model here in Midwest. Local TV ads have decreased. Dealer lots are full of trucks but few buyers.
@clivewarner216211 сағат бұрын
So it seems that collecting all the shittiest least reliable brands under one roof wasn't such a great idea.
@gerbearjones605610 сағат бұрын
😂😅
@LenVanHirtum10 сағат бұрын
🤣 Thanks for the chuckle, your comment is both amusing and true.
@Jeez0017 сағат бұрын
Negative * Negative is a positive right, may be that was their logic
@icosthop99985 сағат бұрын
"They" kept buying out failing automobile companies, Thinking "They" can make them work.
@S.L.S-40710 сағат бұрын
It's not just that Stellantis makes crappy vehicles, it's that some of their buyers are realizing they are being screwed over and don't like. PLUS the baks are tightening up and won't give out loans to people who can't afford them. Most ppl finance and now they are stuck.
@therealblue4210 сағат бұрын
They took the hemi out of the 1500. Big mistake.
@Yurimaster9 сағат бұрын
Toyota USA/Mexico is following down the same path. With their 4th gen Tacoma. I'm glad I secure me a 2021 Tacoma OR 6 speed manual before this massive inflation in late 2021.
@OnTheAir6 сағат бұрын
A slowdown is putting it mildly. These upper management folks are. not living in the real world.
@chivosadventures817111 сағат бұрын
I really don't Care how much a new car costs whether it'd be $19,000 or $150,000 i wouldn't buy a new car. I'm just going to stick with my 32 yr old 1993 Ford Econoline Van. I mean even at almost 300K miles it still runs great. I'm not about to invest money on a depreciating asset not in this economy.
@NoDaysOff-oz2zl7 сағат бұрын
You'd think a single automaker would want to come out with a basic ice car or truck, minus the tech crap, and sell it cheap to steal market share and turn into a powerhouse, happy dealers, happy customers.... but oh no....
@TJ4AUSA5 сағат бұрын
Just checked out a new Jeep Wrangler. $75k is ridiculous.
@captainbeyond435010 сағат бұрын
Overpriced vehicles , greedy car companies, and greedy uaw . I'm not saying that the uaw should not get something. I think they ask for way too much.
@patton333810 сағат бұрын
Stop blaming unions like a filthy scab dude, it's beneath you. Here's a hint. In the next couple of years you are going to watch every cop, nurse, teacher, everyone with representation get about a 30% raise. Its already happening all over. This is what inflation does. That's reality. A reality forced upon us thanks to greedy corporations, nothing more. The uaw contract increased prices ~3% Where'd the rest go?
@sarikagoode150510 сағат бұрын
Aren’t the UAW folks the actual people who physically manufacture these vehicles? Perhaps they should get a bigger cut of the pie instead of the shareholders? Without them there would be no cars. Remember the workers already took massive pay cuts and lost their pensions when the auto industry collapsed last time. Industry was bailed out by the taxpayer, but the workers were never made whole.
@robinheider41411 сағат бұрын
His parachute is probably too high for Stellantis to pay if they fire him. Good money after bad.
@johnmeyer549610 сағат бұрын
I would not even buy a 50k vehicle……..need some common sense marketing……low prices are the secret to your return to success.
@ericblust59239 сағат бұрын
I want a dodge with a v8, sway bars, rear differential lock, 4 wheel drive, skid plates... I dont need power windows, cameras, traffic censors, tv screens, heated seats, decoration packages, basically, they are building limo's instead of work/play trucks.
@ericblust59239 сағат бұрын
Shinny rims, pretty boy features, next thing you know Dodge owners are wearing Capri pants...
@NrthrnKnght9 сағат бұрын
throw some fog lights up on top for hunting too
@clivewarner21626 сағат бұрын
I want a BYD Shark, with 500HP, all electric drive, 60 miles battery range, 500Km total range - it's a plug in hybrid - priced at $40K.
@ericblust59236 сағат бұрын
@@clivewarner2162 I grew up on gas and diesel trucks, plus I live in the north, so I am going to hold out as long as I can from electric...when I couldn't find the new Dodge at the price I wanted and all the old Dodge trucks around me are rusted, I switched up, found a 1990 GMC, with a s.b.c. 400, pushing 475hp, running on a carburator,, for my truck needs, then I bought a newer GMC SUV to drive around in daily... Fuck stelantis
@JBM4255 сағат бұрын
Safety features such as adaptive cruise control and rear cross traffic control are lifesavers. On the other hand, I don’t need a pickup or SUV with “rich Corinthian leather” and crystal gearshift knobs. A lot of people don’t, either, especially if it means paying more than $50,000 for a new vehicle.
@guzmancharles710 сағат бұрын
They should sell the company back to the Grandson of Chrysler founder. Maybe he can save a company that the CEO is trying to burn to the ground. Stellantis is not a luxury brand this CEO doesn’t get it.
@CustomerService-ni6wi10 сағат бұрын
here is a concept: make base models, don't allow dealer markups, finance your own vehicles and all high optioned vehicles are only built if ordered by customer with a deposit.
@temabiven741311 сағат бұрын
Make please interview about “REPO” with bank representatives . How get off car “nice” with less problems in the future
@chevycmf10 сағат бұрын
Saying the same thing in every episode. But still don’t see prices drop . Sooooo I’m patiently waiting!
@danc944011 сағат бұрын
Stellantis needs a CEO that is a work-out/turnaround expert. It will take a couple of years to plug the massive holes in the ship, in order to keep it afloat. After that- they should find a CEO that has an actual vision with a strategy for long term success, who will bring in a real management team that can rebuild the company from the ground up. Carlos Tavares has ruined the brand, at least in the US. The BOD shouldn't wait until 2026 when the contract expires. They need to act immediately. It's that bad folks............
@PatrickC13911 сағат бұрын
It's really up to the shareholders to sue the company for the CEO not committing to his fiduciary duty.
@billmoretz871810 сағат бұрын
@@PatrickC139trouble is there is no accountability. Just see how big his golden parachute will be.
@davidthomas271910 сағат бұрын
Agree
@drift678510 сағат бұрын
Bruh how many CEO have they had... IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT THEY ALWAYS BEEN CRAPPY CARS FOR THE LAST 20 PLUS YRS. LUXURY POS. THEY WERE STRUGGLING SELLING IT BEFORE THIS TRANSITION.
@rocinblues9 сағат бұрын
In 2013 I bought a great 1500 RAM 1500, it was pretty much loaded and it was built like a tank (38k). No issues with the vehicle. After 11 yrs needed a new truck, so I looked at all of them, when I go to to RAM .... wow... how they cheapened the truck. So much hard plastic in the interior and WAY TOO MUCH aluminum in the body. Compared to my 2013, I could feel the body actually bounce and bob (like a fishing bobber) because the body was so lightened. Bought a new 4Runner 4x4 ($42k) and got a great deal, and it had MORE creature comforts than the 2024 Ram 1500 (64k)- so disappointed with the Stellantis. RAM 1500. And no for FORD or GM - been there, done that, and lost so much money on repairs over the life of the trucks.
@ericdolby162210 сағат бұрын
Crazy because you can apparently run the country into the ground and still get paid.
@ismaelgonzalez243210 сағат бұрын
Brandon, you are correct on Mr Tavares. He is running Stallantis like the European model. Meaning ilived in Europe for many years The current Stellantis model in the USA is just like the European model. Two different continents....
@betitos119 сағат бұрын
Omg how many "Its Done" or "Its Over" videos could there possibly be ?? You and Car Edge upload 2 per week with the same title 🤣🤣🤣💀
@davidpenwood50286 сағат бұрын
Click bait! Their (Car Edge and others) "story" has been running for what 12 or 18 months. Predictions yet to come true.
@GeraltofRivia515010 сағат бұрын
The shareholders are a big part of the problem as well.
@johnoberle97506 сағат бұрын
It’s all about short term gain.
@Oldcarnut635 сағат бұрын
Yes they are because they want more profits year over year over year driving up the costs of the vehicles and pushing our manufacturing to Mexico and other parts of the world. They save the big money on that but we don't ever see a discount on the prices never
@tommyhawks8569 сағат бұрын
What is really sad, the two clowns that have fast food restaurants have better control over their products than vehicle manufacturers do. In the automotive industry, greed throughout the entire industry is the problem. Point to any place within the automotive industry, and you can find problems that are self-induced and created from greed.
@fevertech18709 сағат бұрын
I paid off my car almost a year ago. I thought about trading it in for a newer one. But when i see the prices of some of these vehicles I want no part of it. It doesn't matter if they knockoff 20%. I'll stick to what i have and keep up with the maintenance. It's not worth the worry or stress. Especially with this economy in this day and age.
@davidbrayshaw35296 сағат бұрын
A paid for car is an asset. No, it's not a great asset, but it's an asset just the same. A car on a note is a damned liability. Month after month, more pain and more money down the drain that you're never going to see again. Save up what you would have been making in monthly payments and pay cash for your next car.
@F510C10 сағат бұрын
U mean making Jeep as expensive as Lexus, BMW and Benz was a bad idea?
@bryanspayde568111 сағат бұрын
You would be amazed at the fire power that drone at Walmart is capable of …
@rockscrambler67009 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't buy a Stellantis product even if they cut prices in half.
@mandlclark5 сағат бұрын
Dodge, Jeep, Ram priced themselves right out of the Market. I bought a 2021 Durango R/T for $45. Today a 2024 Durango R/T is $65K for basically the same vehicle. That is why they can't sell cars or trucks. It has nothing to do with quality, and everything to do with price.
@BlackRoostar-cf2yv10 сағат бұрын
While the CEO gets a golden parachute, you will be on strike knowing you can't make it until Xmas. Good evening.
@Ronick-Q-46Сағат бұрын
So you've gone from having dipsticks in engines to having dipsticks in management, that sounds about right.
@myz06rocks8 сағат бұрын
Ram 1500 classic - translation = 2012 Ram for 50% more money for no reason. Last time I was in the dealership for a part, even the salesman I knew pointed at the grand Waggoner in the showroom and laughed when he told me the price.
@SRTKOVA8 сағат бұрын
You said it best nobody paying 100 grand for a jeep those that have 100k for a car they’re not looking at dodge
@sparvamp8 сағат бұрын
The problem is they got as big as they are from the workers not the rich people. They are not BMW, Mercedes, or a luxury car.
@willa23658 сағат бұрын
Quality has gone down. Prices went stratospheric. Wages of consumers has fallen off dramatically. Very bad mix of circumstances.
@christophergee10910 сағат бұрын
Went to Jeep 4 times to purchase a gladiator or wrangler. Not once would any of the dealers in vegas budget on price. Now the proud owner of a brand new Tesla!
@Asheriko9 сағат бұрын
Tesla is just as trash as JEEP, DODGE And RAM LOL
@auburnalum901910 сағат бұрын
RAM/Jeep/Chrysler has not changed the fact that they make crap products. They charged a ton of money over the recent years but still have not changed the image. Chargers belong to Cops and low credit wannabe gangbangers. Notice you never see a Charger on Brandon's lot even though he could buy one easily below 5K. Jeep Wranglers are OK but the 100K Wagoneers are just overpriced SUVs. Ram cannot find any more bros to sell their dozers.
@waltersiwicki9 сағат бұрын
The other problem in my area of upstate N.Y is that dealers are keeping the rebates. There adds says rebates for o dealer. So if for instance. There is a 3,000 dollar rebate. Dealers are keeping them. So if sold now let see at invoice. They are making 3,000 on the car with out any markups added on
@dupajasio48017 сағат бұрын
I remember not so long ago you were blaming unions for cost of vehicles. I agree. They should make minimum wage while CEOs should be compensated properly. $400,000 an hour sounds OK? Once we get there problem will be fixed.
@jameswilliams73377 сағат бұрын
Remember the reasons why DCJR sales have plummeted: 1) Biden/Harris Inflation Reduction Act (mandates electric vehicles) 2) People do not want to buy all electric vehicles 3) MSRP sales prices of DCJR vehicles are way too high 4) DCJR vehicle quality is poor 5) Out of touch leadership at Stellantis 6) Dealers continue to try to gouge retail customers 7) ongoing UAW labor issues and problems
@michaellalanae722810 сағат бұрын
Only 2500 a month ? What a bargain.including insurance,taxes , inspection, destination,dealer prep,package x,lift,tires however are extra ,😂
@joewalters22596 сағат бұрын
My 16 year old Dodge Ram with over 200,000 miles still serves me well and it will be a cold day in hell before I pay $60K for a new truck especially Stellantis. The CEO of Stellantis would rather burn it to the ground and rule over the ashes instead of making affordable vehicles again.
@mikearbon61969 сағат бұрын
Makes no sense for them to keep him until his contract expires. It's already known he's on his way out. They'll just buy his remaining contract and move in with somebody else
@kwilliams19585 сағат бұрын
Love the Teenage Ninja Turtles, Brandon...I probably spent as much on those toys back in the day for my son as I would for a new "STEAL-ANTIS" today!
@ronking872611 сағат бұрын
Their inventory is about 500,000 less. Surprised they are selling.
@mam20877 сағат бұрын
I grew up my family were a Dodge/Plymoth family. why? They were the cheapest cars you could get! That was our brand loyalty. They need to go back to their roots. affordable cars for the average family. do that and sales will be good
@jim99306 сағат бұрын
I had two Dodge Darts and a Plymouth Scamp with slant 6... nice cars 40 years ago, not now
@mam20874 сағат бұрын
@@jim9930 we had Dusters with the slant 6, great engine , you couldn't kill it , however the bodies rusted out
@jim99304 сағат бұрын
@@mam2087 I live a little north of I-80 in western PA (salt/rust belt). When my vehicles get too rusted, they get sold to Ohio - no inspection. 15 years is OLD here...
@jimsalmon51585 сағат бұрын
Killing the Challenger, the Charger, and the Chrysler 300 was a mistake.
@bigrobsydney9 сағат бұрын
The market is changing, and legacy auto aren't keeping up with what consumers are buying. Personally, they have nothing in their lineup that I find competitive, or that suits my use case (even if it's a lot more expensive).
@eldoradoboy11 сағат бұрын
ive bought 8 wranglers, a gladiator, and 3 rams n my lifetime.. I am nt likely to buy any more stellantis products... prices are still crazy high.. the truck i got 3 years ago qent up 9K to get the new one.. and I have to give up the V8 to get a new one... and thats BEFORE dealer "admin fees"... so in the end in my area id be paying about 10K more than I did 3 years ago.. sorry but 64K for a MID RANGE ram 1500 is a dealer killer for me... even 3 years ago i got money off the sticker for my 22 RAM and there was not massive dealer fees I bought the truck in nov of 21 as a lease which expires in november this year.. id rather drive my old beater car than to pay 64K for a mid level pickup with a crappy hurricane or pentastar engine..
@ChevySS196810 сағат бұрын
I'd love to buy a new hi-end RAM 1500, but the crazy prices, the gimmicky stupid 'eTorque', and no V-8 just kill it for me.
@mam20876 сағат бұрын
you would think the solution is obvious. can't sell vehicles , lower the price. sell at cost, at least you get your money back. it's so simple people are not buying because it's too expensive. lower the damn prices
@2chuck8 сағат бұрын
Stellantis Products seem to routinely appear on lists of cars that have problems with frequentcy of repairs, customer satisfaction and other quality issues. Add that to the way that the Manufacturer treats their dealers and I don't think they have much of a chance of succeding in the U.S. near term. They sure wouldn't be on any list I could make of vehicles I would be interested in owning.
@wisconsinwoodsman198710 сағат бұрын
Time for a new K Car and a K Truck.
@wisconsinwoodsman198710 сағат бұрын
I don't even care if they have power windows or not. I also don't need a device that shows me when it is safe to pass and move back in the lane. I got that down.
@Tkssa58049 минут бұрын
The CEO ran the brand into the ground.
@jrtaylor22889 сағат бұрын
I'm curious about today's Caredge live. They were talking about this & They went dark. Video disappeared
@bryanspayde568111 сағат бұрын
Fast food is laying off in Ohio !
@georgk8732Сағат бұрын
Not a day goes by I don't see a new video of "It's DONE" "THEY ARE SCREWED" "IT'S OVER"
@lego4virgo5 сағат бұрын
Take a loss, Stellantis! Mark Dodge/Chrysler, 50% off. Mark RAM 50%. Mark Jeep 40%. Off of MSRP. Every dealer across the US has to do it. Then make up the difference to Stellantis, at invoice price. Then, learn your lessons, and go back and sell low to mid-priced vehicles for the next three years.
@Mysterysmoke5 сағат бұрын
The change is lower your price about 50%
@MelDee-vd2jd10 сағат бұрын
Almost 400 were laid off just today. This isn't good.
@movdqa10 сағат бұрын
CEOs can see the train wreck coming from a long way off and they have the analysis telling them why. But moving from a high margin environment to a low margin environment is not a job any CEO wants to go through. I went though this in the 1980s with a company and I found another job in a high-margin area before the collapse. A real leaders comes up with a plan to reflect changes in the marketplace. Maybe that means making a lot of cheaper cars - the cars that people want. Margins are lower and they may have to live in that world for 5-10 years. This is similar to Nike where they just threw out the CEO. He had many years and Nike, instead of working on new technology and new products, just worked on better retail channels and additional colorways.
@kenkeyes814811 сағат бұрын
European CEO's don't innately understand the American market. He also inherited a bunch of legacy problems from the Fiat era, and before that the Daimler era. Has the BOD learned their lesson yet?
@riverrat46316 сағат бұрын
The only Brand worth anything under this company is Jeep. Dodge, Ram and Chrysler doesn’t have brand loyalty like Jeep. 🇺🇸🦅
@banzaii62855 сағат бұрын
Sales are slowing? 🤣🤣 It's gonna be funny to see brand new '23 '24 and '25 all on the lot at the same time.
@TheLoanshark086 сағат бұрын
I have a grand Wagoneer for a rental … it chugs fuel worse than my v8 Titan, it’s super glitchy, I get whifs of coolant here and there and the hurricane motor is louder than an actual one lol. The window sticker in the glove box said $101k … hheellllllll no
@rbiddy58933 сағат бұрын
Who in their right mind would pay $120K for a Stellantis product? Just because you charge a premium price doesn't mean your vehicles are premium. Word has been out for years, Dodge/Jeep make sh*t vehicles. For $120K I'll take a Cayenne thanks
@SongkranJ17 сағат бұрын
Easy answer.. Just bring Lee Iococca back! If you can find a better car/truck Buy It !!
@stryker120ski49 сағат бұрын
this has been a long time ago maybe 2 years and over the past year, over value cars, and making subpar products, stealnatis is out of control price gouging, next to the dealers ships adding adms, on supposed last call cars that stealantis called, adding 30k on top of the over priced autos, when big dealer are leaving or selling their dealerships because of miss management of the top at stealantis, if they fail and go out, there will other OEMS to take the place of them
@SHOE538 сағат бұрын
So they can't sell 100k and 80k cars and trucks gosh you would think management could have seem this coming, guess greed got the best of them
@chrisajokinen9 сағат бұрын
if you are thinking it will be 2 yrs. before his contract runs out and then a new CEO steps in, you are still looking at a 1- or 2-year term to have other offerings that will be cost effective for the current market. Or is there something else that can help?
@arthurhudgens82137 сағат бұрын
I wish they had found a new CEO before he destroyed our iconic brands.. they did this on purpose and Carlos successor will put the last nail in the coffin
@Stricker77925 сағат бұрын
speaking as a dodge durango owner,, honestly Dodges are PoS anyways... so I couldn't feel bad for them. but easy to say that about the new car market arena.. chickenz have come to roost..
@rogerwalters42859 сағат бұрын
You seem like a nice guy. Even honest. So. Why do you keep selling the notion of doom and collapse? Prices have not come down. Folks are still buying cars, dealerships are not slashing prices, and they are not closing.
@bicyclelife70887 сағат бұрын
A lot can happen in 2 years. They can go under in that time.
@BrettKuntz9 сағат бұрын
Jeep is so over priced. My parents were looking at them over 20 years ago; they were too expensive then. Jeep is no better than any other SUV. I paid $35 000 for my dodge ram quad cab in 2016 which was a 2015 model. I've saved it; it has 25 000 miles on it.
@rockscrambler67009 сағат бұрын
If you're a shareholder of Stellantis you should probably fire your broker.
@FixtIt10 сағат бұрын
I wish they would sell the company back to the Chrysler family.
@superchiefusn56017 сағат бұрын
So just charge 1 million dollars a truck sell 3, 4 thousand of them, problem solved... If you build it we don't have to buy.
@jamessantos585710 сағат бұрын
I can be the new ceo. I’ll lower MSRP’s and hire a new quality control team. Sales will improve immediately
@jamesbarca722910 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure Stellantis can survive until 2026 with Tavares at the helm. They need to fire him yesterday.
@John-gw4jt10 сағат бұрын
Ive got a new catchy title for you. THE CAR MARKET WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!
@paytonpeta13369 сағат бұрын
They should have made the Wagoneer under the Chrysler brand.
@KNIGHTOFELEMIA-i7i3 сағат бұрын
Stellantis knows nothing about the North American market. Trying to cater to those who buy BMW's, Mercedes is tanking Chrysler and its branches.
@streamingdemon25226 сағат бұрын
They could bring back 100 new V8 models and it wont change a damn thing. They will still be wildly out of budget for 99% of buyers.. It is the pricing.. This new method is now set in stone.. Sit on inventory for however long it takes until the village full of idiots shows up for the 84 month 14% loans.. The dealers will still win with massive margins, point spreads and ultra profitable trade swaps. Then they get a trade on a trade and then a trade on that trade.. Everybody has blinders on not understanding that the money flows way beyond that shiny new metal thats been sitting on the lots..
@chadakoin16 сағат бұрын
They don't sell V8's anymore. What else did they ever have?
@riverrat46316 сағат бұрын
What is happening with the Grandson of Chrysler buying the company? Does he have the means to buy without investors?
@TNCowboy201210 сағат бұрын
Massive msrp cuts to pre pandemic prices, or shut the company down permanently.
@crusaderjmo541510 сағат бұрын
Can’t they just buy out the remainder of his contract and get rid of him? I don’t think they can survive more of the same until 2026.
@SoonerMikeD10 сағат бұрын
Same video for the past 8 months, yet here I am 😂
@CQALive9 сағат бұрын
Thanks for watching :)...this did come out yesterday though... New news
@Dave-po2ir11 сағат бұрын
DODGE IS NOW LING THE MOVIE GUNG HO
@takumifujiwara64194 сағат бұрын
Great content, what happened to today's episode of cars cents? I saw it was live, but when I went to watch it later in, it wasn't on the channel
@hellomeatrobots8 сағат бұрын
FCA was a dumpster fire from the word go. I mean, let's put together Fiat and broke Dodge, that should work well. I'm not sure what PSA found attractive about that s---show. Was It Dodge re-imagining itself as a luxury brand? Fiat's impressive string of years with >20% declining sales in America? The thoughts of turning this hot mess into some kind of automotive LVMH built around electric Dodge Chargers and $100,000 Jeeps? FCA is cursed.
@YOUneedJESUS16 сағат бұрын
Their employees we need more money. Company fine...... plants shutting down your all fired. That's union's for ya.