A lot of people complain about a deep bed because it's more difficult to access but I much prefer a deep bed over a shallow one. Makes it easier to store and secure loose items. Plus if you have a bed cover a deep bed is more beneficial. The Jeeps bed is so shallow you wouldn't be able to fit much underneath a cover.
@derikbishop31445 жыл бұрын
Plus getting in and out is easy because the built in bumper step. I use it all the time.
@Greg-wz7fk5 жыл бұрын
@@derikbishop3144 On a standard Colorado/Canyon I definitely agree with you. I have a Canyon and the steps make it extremely easy to get into the bed. They removed the steps from the ZR2 though so not only is the bed higher but you don't have that assistance.
@derikbishop31445 жыл бұрын
@@Greg-wz7fk well I did not know that. They should figger that out then.
@Greg-wz7fk5 жыл бұрын
@@derikbishop3144 Yeah basically they found out when doing serious off roading the sidesteps would get pinched shut so they removed them. So I don't expect them to put them back on.
@seantaylor26835 жыл бұрын
That's why step sides need to make a return
@isend2c5 жыл бұрын
Edmunds, I’m impressed with the quality of this video. It was informative and despite being long, was almost always giving good information and not wasting anybody’s time. I have mostly avoided edmunds since you got rid of Insideline, but this was a step in the right direction.
@secret5.5 жыл бұрын
I agree 👍
@sunnydays36435 жыл бұрын
I’m not good at explaining things but you explained it very well and I think that he did a very good job on the video
@linger20015 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I hardly use Edmunds for anything anymore since they got rid of insideline and their website became so user unfriendly.
@theplayernkc5 жыл бұрын
The more I see the ZR2, the more I love it.
@Dreww317865 жыл бұрын
It’s a sexy truck that’s for sure especially compared to the base Colorado
@surfside755 жыл бұрын
That automatic transmission though😒
@jeffanderson72565 жыл бұрын
A just like the original zr2s compared to the base 2wd s10s
@lvhatrick5 жыл бұрын
It's a cheap Raptor is all....
@ziadajam54335 жыл бұрын
Surfside agree
@rkalla5 жыл бұрын
This video production was *legit* - had to have been a complex undertaking. Thanks for putting this together!
@alejandrovaldivia20785 жыл бұрын
00ll
@Madman9mm5 жыл бұрын
So jeep finally pulled out a pickup, but can't beat the ZR2. That's what I saw in this video. May not have been what they were saying, but I saw the ZR2 out performing the jeep.
@2003evodave5 жыл бұрын
Madman9mm ,,,,yikes,,,,,then you watched a different video.
@doch51235 жыл бұрын
Not sure what video you watched? Maybe the flat dirt roads, and the sand section. Technical trails there will be no comparison between the two stock vs stock. Not to mention the huge aftermarket for the gladiator already.
@joshuaolson24935 жыл бұрын
@@doch5123 the technical trails where the jeep gets high centered all the time? cool story fan boy
@TexanUSMC80895 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaolson2493 But the skid plate slid right over.
@doch51235 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaolson2493 take the zr2 to the hammers and see how long it lasts. The gladiator already did it. Skid plates are there for a reason. BTW I have done the hammers myself. The Chevy wouldn't have a prayer.
@DucatiPaso7505 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. The Gladiator is very impressive. However, for my use, if I were in the market for a truck, I'd go with the ZR2.
@louisbarningham5 жыл бұрын
Ford is the best
@chrisk70505 жыл бұрын
@@louisbarningham fk'd on race day 😝
@RagingBad4 жыл бұрын
Louis Barningham the best way to get to a mechanic
@dyllannawrot78995 жыл бұрын
My family loves our ZR2!! Such a fun truck.
@stubby11225 жыл бұрын
Family, so you don't really need a truck, you want a glorified SUV that you think makes you look tough and rugged. LOL. You're just the kind of douches that drive up the costs.
@daquanwalls50315 жыл бұрын
Monsterbaby if you complain about the prices of trucks, you most likely cant afford anything to tow.
@stubby11225 жыл бұрын
@@daquanwalls5031 I'm sure I can afford way more than you 2 clowns I pay cash for everything I buy. Have fun with your 6 and 7 year loans. By they way, most people know the reason you buy trucks that you don't need is your low self esteem and your minuscule body parts. LOL
@ozm86425 жыл бұрын
What engine?
@rickc21025 жыл бұрын
@@stubby1122 the type of nigga to never take his whole family off-roading
@TexanUSMC80895 жыл бұрын
I think it comes down to what you intend to use your truck for. The ZR2 is better on the highway and higher speed dirt roads. The Jeep is better in the slow extreme off road. Sway bar disconnect in the rubicon and lockers. The ZR2 is probably a more refined and smoother ride on the street. Jeeps are not going to beat a Zr2 or Tacoma on the street, but they aren't designed to. The straight axle Jeep will always rule extreme off road.
@jonmark115 жыл бұрын
true, the Tacoma and ZR2 are more towards on-road work trucks converted for off-road and desert racing. The Gladiator is an off-road truck converted to road use. its just geared for much more technical climbs
@superRoot5 жыл бұрын
I understand your point, but why not just buy a wrangler rubicon and get the epic breakover if you're into serious crawling?
@robertneville7775 жыл бұрын
As a ZR2 owner, that's always been my views on all these trucks. Maybe to bring in a larger view of the off road spectrum, jeep is the king of rock crawling, the raptor is the king of desert racing, and the rest fall somewhere in between.
@95mushroom5 жыл бұрын
This was Car and Driver levels of bias. Edmunds just assumes the ZR2 isn't doing well on that section of road, claims they should have spent more time tuning in these conditions, maybe add an extra mode. It then literally cuts to Calvin stating how well the ZR2 was doing...... Love it......
@ZR2plowboy2 жыл бұрын
On rough roads the Zr2 is the best vehicle that I have ever driven.
@k.tucker20115 жыл бұрын
Zr2 for the win for me. It overall performs better. On the way to the trial it drives great and on the trail it dose even better. Drove better on the obstacles without scrubbing and has more power and torque
@BufordEdits5 жыл бұрын
less towing, less suspension travel. for offroad that chevy is a piece of shit. no front locker. no front sway disconnect. just add 35's to the Jeep and you will miss your skid plates. But thats why they are there. Spend 500$ on springs and raise the jeep an inch or two. Dont need lots of power for a crawler.
@zackarystewart92145 жыл бұрын
idk man. the low range wasnt that good. The guy couldn't see out of it offroad which is kind of necessary when you're out on your own. The lower towing is a joke. Seriously, look at what campers you can tow under 5000 lbs. None of those are really something you'd want to live with. The tall bed makes it hard to get in and get things out of. I mean it really missed the mark. Yes it drives slightly better on the highway, but so does a sportscar. Needing someone to direct you on obstacles means it's worse at going over them. You can't really fault a Jeep for using it's engineered solution to get over obstacles
@jaysony57515 жыл бұрын
Buford the zr2 has front and back lockers
@BufordEdits5 жыл бұрын
@@jaysony5751 but it has ifs so if you have the front locker on you will most likely snap a front cv pretty easily . not saying it's a bad truck... but it's not really comparable to a jeep
@jaysony57515 жыл бұрын
Buford “ifs”????
@frankiereyes65885 жыл бұрын
I watch alot of March 30th release video of jeep Gladiator at 12am and so far your environment and reviews are much more entertaining. I love the scenery. 🚙
@NeoS2815 жыл бұрын
As a third time Jeep Wrangler owner and a potential Gladiator buyer, I’m glad you did the angle tests (approach, breakover and departure). Very informative and will help me greatly in making my purchase.
@Michael-ge3eo5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree the ZR2 is extremely well balanced and is a far better vehicle! My ZR2 has been through hell and back and not giving me any problems whatsoever and you could zip over the dunes and Rockwell in stock form and it would blow the doors off of the Jeep hands down! Do you want to spend more money on tires you can do it with a ZR2 and a couple other modifications it would be unbeetable Beast! The ZR2 is the more comfortable vehicle off-road hands down not even close
@michaelizquierdo69075 жыл бұрын
If you do get a gladiator they have an optional lift kit from the factory. I suggest you get it solved most of the problems.
@bryanwithab15675 жыл бұрын
Great vid guys. I've got a blue ZR2 and hope to take her out to a place like that one day.
@gldi8hr5 жыл бұрын
I’m in love with the Jeep Gladiator ❣️
@dobbins25505 жыл бұрын
Exterior: Gladiator - Iconic Look Interior: Gladiator, ZR2 looks cheap to me Engine: ZR2 Transmission: Tie Suspension: Preference Tow: Gladiator Payload: Tie On Road: ZR2 Off Road: Preference - High Speed (ZR2) Rock Crawling (Gladiator) MSRP: ZR2 Aftermarket: Gladiator
@TexanUSMC80895 жыл бұрын
I agree. Well said. Gladiator does have a little higher payload though.
@Shakshuka695 жыл бұрын
Gladiator has a manual option so I think it wins transmission. And the diesel coming out next year should tip the scales on engine too.
@dilsher125 жыл бұрын
I think the gladiator looks weird and I own a Jeep jk
@Shakshuka695 жыл бұрын
@@dilsher12 same. It's the rear doors. They used the same ones as the JL instead of designing new ones to save money and keep the aftermarket flexible
@Henry141415 жыл бұрын
You think the exterior of the gladiator looks good? Also I completely disagree with the interior.
@shmac965 жыл бұрын
To me at least it seems the Gladiator is like the midsize Dodge Powerwagon...rugged, muscular but still capable off road but just not as nimble(?) or fast. Whereas the ZR2 is like the Ford Raptor....quick, fast(er) relatively speaking and fun. Comes down to I would say more work capable vs more spirited off road fun. Starting to appreciate the look of the Gladiator more now that its been out for a little bit especially from the side. Probably better with a set of 35s on it. Very cool review!
@rafadafa97804 жыл бұрын
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@rafadafa97804 жыл бұрын
Hari
@MaNtIcHoRaOfficial5 жыл бұрын
Feel like the colorado is still more of a truck than the gladiator
@ALMX5DP5 жыл бұрын
ptpvideogaming Why is that?
@TexanUSMC80895 жыл бұрын
The colorado is a better truck on the street, but they have the same size bed. The gladiator has a higher payload.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix5 жыл бұрын
Even though the jeep tows and hauls more?
@333jsh5 жыл бұрын
And the Jeep has a solid front axle?
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix5 жыл бұрын
@@333jsh yep, that too. I'd take the jeep in a hearbeat
@Nikephorus5 жыл бұрын
I wish they had a regular cab or extended cab option. That truck is way too long for my needs.
@maxwell54285 жыл бұрын
i doubt they would sell well. Most of the customers are the people who buy jeeps and never offroad them
@kmeekins41685 жыл бұрын
@@maxwell5428 just once I want to see a "which truck handles the grocery store parking lot better" video.
@rsoul72825 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Desmarais you do know that the Wrangler Unlimited is a thing, and has been for a very long time?
@333jsh5 жыл бұрын
@Eazy Gunz check out the Dodge Ram 2500 v10 review by Top Gear.
@RigiLiquid9455 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they could have made that Jeep like the Avalanche, so back seats can flip forward to get 8 feet of bed.
@malifestro75965 жыл бұрын
Gladiator basically needs a 2-3" lift and 35s from the factory because otherwise there is a lot more risk of damage.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix5 жыл бұрын
Right! I can't understand why they chose such a long wheelbase on a vehicle like the Jeep.
@chrisdroste32965 жыл бұрын
Because they already have the wrangler JL 4 door? It comes from the factory with 33s and space leftover for 35s with literally doing nothing else.
@linger20015 жыл бұрын
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix because 9 out of 10 people will never have an issue with it in stock form. And the 1 person who will is probably going to mod it anyway.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix5 жыл бұрын
@@linger2001 very true, but I'd be one of the few that would use this for offroading. The reason I like my discovery II so much is the short wheelbase for a 4 door. It has an amazing breaker angle.
@bully59915 жыл бұрын
I feel like Chrysler adding a 5 foot bed to a stock Wrangler frame was a bad choice because it looks like an aftermarket frame extension from a 3rd party mod compant
@82ChevyMC5 жыл бұрын
They complain about the spare tire on the zr2 but they have a bed mounted option
@82ChevyMC5 жыл бұрын
@guy proulx jeeps have zero space but people still use them
@82ChevyMC5 жыл бұрын
@guy proulx my original comment was that they complain about the bottom mount spare but they have a bed mounted option. you're talking about not having space in the bed all I'm saying there are other 4x4 with even less cargo space
@kimlan68305 жыл бұрын
Nooooooo
@jerrypatrom88865 жыл бұрын
I'll keep the zr2 v6. It's a winner in my books.
@joebrown96215 жыл бұрын
i don't think the height of the bed or the load floor with the seat folded down is a big issue because alot of enthusiasts will lift their vehicle or put on bigger tyres anyways
@StraightFaces5 жыл бұрын
Is it too much to ask for a 2 door gladiator with a shorter wheelbase?
@MrJoshpit5 жыл бұрын
ZR2 looks so much nicer. 😎
@flame19735 жыл бұрын
Mr. Josh not about what looks nicer duh
@bsfunk444 жыл бұрын
@@flame1973 good one dipshit
@flame19734 жыл бұрын
BSfunk44 ?
@mitchelljasmann13375 жыл бұрын
Like this for the ZR2
@RealBearFace5 жыл бұрын
I really like both. The ZR2 is perfect for my central NJ location, but I really like the Gladiator and its jeep capability as well as the fact you can get a manual transmission. But if I HAD to choose one as a daily, probably the ZR2. If the Gladiator came with a hemi(I know it wont) orif the diesel came with a stick, I'd grab that
@telliesmith98255 жыл бұрын
This comparison seems a little shady to me seems like they was doing a whole lot of praising to the jeep 😒 or is it just me
@ALMX5DP5 жыл бұрын
Tellie Smith just you it looks like.
@joshuaolson24935 жыл бұрын
you're spot on. they gotta get off jeeps nuts so we can get a legitimate comparison. that break over angle is terrible. that wash they took it through both trucks could've done in 2wd. but they put the Colorado in 4 low?? no mention of lockers? crazy how many gladiator fanboys there are even before anyone owns one lol.
@lukestoyz5 жыл бұрын
Bought and paid for by the highest bidder
@JsGarage5 жыл бұрын
If all the praise was to the ZR2 it’d have been okay though? I think they were excited about it and a lot of good things were said about the ZR2 as well.
@haroonrashid63005 жыл бұрын
Edmund's biased shit everytime against GM, no matter how great their cars are, ZR2 easily beats the gladiator. The end.
@lrecollet5 жыл бұрын
ZR2 for me. The Gladiator looks good and all. The ZR2 is my choice.
@paulwilliams20245 жыл бұрын
Did y'all just say the bed is too deep ? y'all aren't real truck guys
@jrunberg5 жыл бұрын
It's probably just cause they're 5'-2" tall.
@maxjohnson16955 жыл бұрын
It is very easy to find a v6 zr2 for under $40,000 new, diesels for $42,000. That is a bargain. There is no way the dealers with be giving discounts on the Gladiator anytime soon. So real world price difference is a bit higher.
@steve_shec5 жыл бұрын
There will be discounts on the gladiator 100%
@SPNKr025 жыл бұрын
Gladiator starts at 35k
@MrMatty19565 жыл бұрын
@@SPNKr02 "STARTS" is the key word. 4X4 colorado/tacoma/rangers start at about $26k.... fully loaded Chevy Colorado with all the bells and whistles will barely break $48k. You want the fully loaded (compatible level) jeep? you are in the $64k ball park. So unless you are buying a bare bones jeep, you're spending way over the chevy or any other competitor. Jeep at all comparably equipped levels is about $8k to $10k more then any other mid sized trucks... its likely more off road capable and likely will have a much better resale then the others, but unless you've got money to burn or a die hard jeeper... this is way over priced... especially when everyone complains the other mid size trucks are too expensive.
@petertyrell96995 жыл бұрын
Gladiator will be 60k loaded. Go try. Lol
@ajflament80125 жыл бұрын
@@SPNKr02 There's a chevy dealership by me that has a zr2 for $36,500
@stephendee78395 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that neither of you commented on the gladiator ' s rear suspension. In the video, it looked like there wasn't any! The zr2 looked composed through all of the terrain that the gladiator looked like it was having a hernia.
@richardthomas15313 жыл бұрын
I guess were both watching a different show .I 'm pretty sure I heard the guy's voice shaking in the ZR2 from the chevy;s suspension . LOL
@krasnaludek2985 жыл бұрын
I’m a Jeep guy, but would buy the ZR2 if I needed a truck. Better value & I like the design more than the Jeep. Jeep interior is nicer.
@SPNKr025 жыл бұрын
Towing and payload go to jeep too
@jaxw26285 жыл бұрын
I’d probably go with a Tacoma. Toyota is basically at reliability level 100.
@michaelbrenner2233 Жыл бұрын
great job. this is the first video I'm aware of that shows the Jeep Gladiator with top off, doors off and windshield down.
@emunoz5875 жыл бұрын
They kept talking about how much more clearance and approach angle the Jeep had but it kept scraping the rear bumper in places the ZR2 didn’t touch either bumper. Win for ZR2. Aftermarket could easily give Jeep the win.
@cgr88m5 жыл бұрын
The jeep is good for a daily commuter and mall crawler and even better so with the diesel, but only biased fans would say its ahead of the game in its class. I love the look of both but if i had to choose one id go with the zr2 diesel.
@beauhopson41205 жыл бұрын
Great review. As a ZR2 owner, I like the removable top feature on the Gladiator. I was impressed that the ZR2 appeared to handle the obstacles a little better than the Gladiator. I was hoping to see a little more of the capabilities of these two machines. I would love it if you guys did another review and threw in the Tacoma TRD Pro and the Ranger 4X4. Keep up the good work.
@davidtaylor58115 жыл бұрын
We all wanted Power Wagon capability in a smaller truck and here it is. And I'm not sure if I like it. I have to see one "in the wild" to be sure but it just looks too awkward off road compared to the ZR2.
@zamboni685 жыл бұрын
The ZR2 can be modified easily to overcome small issues pointed out - relocate the spare to roof, bed or tailgate mount. Add an electric tailgate unlock and locking roll top bed cover for a fully locked bed. Smaller cargo area is better? Only from a Jeep fanboy!
@wrzl16755 жыл бұрын
A fully loaded Rubicon is just shy of $60k.... that gets a big HELL NO from me.
@EGGINFOOLS5 жыл бұрын
Actually it's 60,800. You are right! Ouch
@R3LF135 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it starts at 43.5 for a Rubicon and a TRD Pro starts at 41.7...i completely agree that the Gladiator is expensive, but it's not out of line with similar stuff.
@davidhensley44425 жыл бұрын
An aev zr2 with a duramax comes to 58k but that's with everything added. But it still has more then a Rubicon
@supersmuc5 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of money, but still a bargain compared to the price of European off-roaders, G-Class, Discovery...
@WisconsinDIYGuy3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Nice to see something thorough and on a real test course.
@md.saunders66254 жыл бұрын
I own the Colorado but I also love the gladiator as well. Both are great midsize trucks and are fun to drive
@OverlandTT5 жыл бұрын
The fact the the Jeeps recirculating ball steering system is much stronger and safer than a rack and pinion off-road or hitting pot holes.
@takayama16385 жыл бұрын
Those final words of explanation were great. Makes me want to take my truck out west to those beautiful places. A 4x4 truck should make an excellent overlanding vehicle with a popup bed camper!
@Sandpirate075 жыл бұрын
I loved the Jeep until I saw how much it dragged. As a person who’s done hard core off roading that will get you trapped fast! Jeep costs more plus needs upgrades to compete? The ZR2 won this in my eyes.
@bigospig5 жыл бұрын
Have fun taking the top off and folding the windshield of the ZR2. 😉
@sjw8115 жыл бұрын
Jeep cost more? That Colorado starts at 41 base and damn near every one you see on the lot is knocking at 50k.
@ncastle135 жыл бұрын
Jeep gladiator starts at 35
@JonathanKlein5 жыл бұрын
@@sjw811 Not sure where you're getting that information. With the GM incentives out there, you can pick up a ZR2 for under $40k. I got one with almost every option for $37k.
@Dwealdric5 жыл бұрын
If you really did "hard core off roading" than you'd realize a couple of things: You are comparing stock vehicles... which you wouldn't be doing any "hard core off roading" in anyway. So, since we know that, which one is more receptive to modification? Without a doubt its the Gladiator. Solid axles front and rear, giving more articulation. Simple to lift. Made to take new bumpers, a winch, lights, etc. The ZR2 can't even accept a winch mount. You know what will get you trapped fast? Damage from a poorly designed and protected undercarriage that was never meant to be on an off road vehicle. A lack of recovery options. Less capability to air down in rough terrain. There is no doubt which of these vehicles is more capable off road, and touching skids has nothing to do with it. You know very little about wheeling, and it shows.
@bdd14695 жыл бұрын
Been a jeep fan/owner my entire life but , ZR2 or nothing for me. The gladiator is just way too long and ugly. Everything behind the front seats is hideous, in my opinion. I'd love to see you put 7,000 lbs behind the jeep to test FCA's best in class tow rating. I'm guessing after an underware change you'd agree that 5,000 lbs is about as much as you want to tow with a midsize v6 truck.
@derikbishop31445 жыл бұрын
That 7k towing capacity is only the lowest trim Sport model with the auto transmission. If you get any trim with a manual trans the towing capacity is only 4k lbs.
@ParkerLumpee5 жыл бұрын
I tow a ~5500lb camper with my 2018 Colorado z71 and it's fine with a weight distributing hitch. It's also rated to 7000. The mileage sucks but it pulls fine.
@bdd14695 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerLumpee To each their own. I 've seen too many people crash their shit because the load they are pulling weighs more than their tow vehicle. It's not the power or gas milage that worries me, it's what happens in a panic situation when you are pulling a load that weighs more than your tow rig . I pull a 5500 lb jeep/trailer combo with a fullsize 1500 Z71 and couldn't imagine using a smaller truck....
@derikbishop31445 жыл бұрын
@@bdd1469 it's all about weight loading, wheelbase, and if you have trailer brakes. The problem on the jeep wranglers was that they had very short wheelbases. My diesel Colorado is a crew cab with long bed. I've towed a couple boats and a couple campers around 7k lbs with no problems. I'm not saying its ideal because that is a lot of weight but it gets it done easy.
@bdd14695 жыл бұрын
@@derikbishop3144 Lol. I think you misunderstood. The wrangler isn't towing anything, it's on a car trailer being towed by a long box 1500... I totally understand weight bias, trailer brakes, proper loading , etc.. I've towed hundreds of thousands of miles all across the country with trucks and trailers of all kinds.
@R3LF135 жыл бұрын
Comparison tests involving Jeeps are almost pointless because if you want a Jeep, you want a Jeep and nothing else will do. That said, I'm impressed with the ground clearance of the ZR2 and totally get the desert truck thing- the more the merrier. Good review and keep the off-road stuff coming!
@choss78365 жыл бұрын
A couple of snowflakes doing a comparison. “The bed is too deep” “The back seat folds down to high” it’s a freaken truck, a deep bed is good.
@erics57165 жыл бұрын
Guess that's why a major biz like Edmonds only has 150k subs lol
@garyjones69945 жыл бұрын
Love the depth. I've got a Decked storage system in the bed of my ZR2 and still have room on top for additional storage.
@endocry5 жыл бұрын
More like a snowflake in the comments can't handle someone else's opinion of a fucking truck bed.
@RedRider20015 жыл бұрын
It is a review though! At least they're out there in the dirt.
@JeepCherokeeful4 жыл бұрын
C Hoss not for poseurs!
@0426dav4 жыл бұрын
Price matters, I will pass on the Jeep Gladiator. I'm all for the ZR2!!
@matthewdowdall8545 жыл бұрын
If FCA offered a Hemi option from the factory... they would sell every one of them. Also dreaming of a Colorado with the 5.3 liter V8 option.
@Spanked785 жыл бұрын
Jeep already sells every single Wrangler they make and they'll do the same with the Gladiator, Hemi or not.
The Jeep also has front and rear lockers, as well as electronic disconnecting sway bars. There will be a diesel next year. You are correct about the shorter wheelbase, but you can put 35 inch tires on the Jeep without any further modifications, which would help with the breakover angles. I will say this for the Colorado, the Bison is pretty cool, but AEV could not do much else with it as far as suspension because Chey did not want to have them move the mounts for those big ass shocks they have. I will be curious to see how well tose hold up over time with heavy use. Not to mention the Bison is very difficult to get a hold of due to low production numbers. Both are cool Enjoy what you got!
@BrianLampright9135 жыл бұрын
Great review!! Keep it up. Love how thorough this was you covered all kinds of terrain and even a ramp index. And I think you are spot on with the good and bad of each.
@turdferguson28395 жыл бұрын
Very bias review, the Gladiator driver was definitely sucking up to Jeep, it bottomed out more than the Colorado and yet he says it's better offroad?!?! The ZR2 is the easy winner, more power, lighter, cheaper, more maneuverable and a lot better daily driver.
@pattycarljackson5 жыл бұрын
Or just get mopars 2 inch lift haha. Plus most people will never take their trucks off-road so not a big deal. If a Jeep guy or girl get this they’d probably put the extra 2 inch lift on it anyway.
@ramtrucks7215 жыл бұрын
Chevy's are junk
@fj4000075 жыл бұрын
@@ramtrucks721 compare to what ?.. fiat ?...
@doch51235 жыл бұрын
@@fj400007 you clowns act like fiat fired everyone, closed all the plants, moved the plants overseas, and imported Fiats with whatever logos on them. The same people that built them before Fiat build them now. Just like when Mercedes owned controlling share in them. Stop with the stupid crap already. GM takes money from the Chinese. Heck Buick is mostly made in China last I heard. At least Fiat is moving the plants back to America unlike some other manufacturers
@dannyd04915 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Ferguson. I knew the Jeep driver would say Jeep would win. ZR2 has a diesel option as well. If you want to see a real unbiased review, see TFL, they're the best...
@narwahlssb5 жыл бұрын
just want to say we dont buy solid axle cars because of the way they drive on the highway. either it doesnt bother you like with me or you get used to it. what we are after is the off road capability the flex gets better the higher you go unlike IFS. IFS only flexes as much as it would stock when lifted.
@jasongrimes17415 жыл бұрын
Sounded like a Jeep commercial. I drove both the Rubicon and the ZR2 and just bought a ZR2. There was no comparison. As far as height issues and visibility, my wife is 5' 2" and loves it. I might never get to drive it!
@davidbroadbent18785 жыл бұрын
The ZR2's decrease in towing is more due to not enough airflow going through the nose to keep it cool without the airdamn present on the lower trim levels...test it and you will find out for yourself...owned both the Z71 and now the ZR2
@zb66185 жыл бұрын
Duratracks aren’t “big knobby tires” 🙄
@Mountain-Man-30005 жыл бұрын
Seriously. These were the best guys they could find to test offroad trucks?
@bully59915 жыл бұрын
Compared to their daily Toyota pruis' 13 inch tires they are
@austincarter88125 жыл бұрын
I think the gladiator is really cool. It’s the only truck that can give you an open air experience but it’s way to long. The zr2 is hands down my first choice I can take the doors off it is I really want to lol
@drwang6995 жыл бұрын
i think ill go with the zr2
@Winglessflight975 жыл бұрын
The Gladiator is what trucks have always been in the past and always should be in my opinion. Highly versatile off road cargo carrying vehicles. Not a minivan with a bed. There's to much fat injected in today's trucks IMO. And don't get me started on what passes for an "SUV" in this day and age...
@jgart4714 жыл бұрын
Funny how in the "washboard" part of the ride, the guy in the Chevy -- you can HEAR the bumps in his voice -- you can hear he is being shaken. The guy in the Jeep sounds like he's driving on a highway. Listen from 4:30-4:37 or so to really hear it.
@red.riot.22805 жыл бұрын
I’m ready for the Colorado overhaul! Silverado looks. Revamped suspension. But for the love of god, keep the turbos out of it....
@derikbishop31445 жыл бұрын
My Colorado diesel has a turbo on it, I love it. Don't you dare try to take it from me!
@red.riot.22805 жыл бұрын
Derik Bishop I was talking about the new turbo gas that the Silverado has. I don’t want a ranger twin. Diesel is always different. Lol.
@derikbishop31445 жыл бұрын
@@red.riot.2280 nowadays a turbo is practically required to meet fuel consumption and emissions requirements. They are way more reliable than they used to be. That being said I feel like any enthusiast vehicle should be available with a big motor and manual transmission.
@jeffreygraves41205 жыл бұрын
Im not a chevy guy but I'd much rather own the zr2. Finally chevy builds a midsize truck worth talking about.
@LetsRace15 жыл бұрын
An off-road truck comparison where they didn't even have to use lockers...
@CatharticCathexis5 жыл бұрын
You're looking at a lot of damage if the terrain requires lockers engaged. They're loaner cars.
@g496r500t5 жыл бұрын
CatharticCathexis not true
@UncleNucoa5 жыл бұрын
These guys dont really strike me as having spent much time off road.
@kriskline75595 жыл бұрын
The complaints of high bedsides are irrelevant when it comes to the true reason they are so high. Most put a tonneau cover on their truck and it’s really nice to still have a depth of 21” or more with the cover closed. Allows for a lot more capacity of gear and especially an expedition cooler. The shallow beds on some trucks really suck. The gladiator has a puny 17.5” of depth prior to even putting on a topper. That sucks.
@bobsteeb9375 жыл бұрын
What makes it it’s a convertible and you could take the doors off that’s JEEP But you can get a manual and that’s everything
@olliehopnoodle46285 жыл бұрын
It's a good video. A big long but there is a lot of good information and a fair comparison. If you are trying to decide between these two trucks you should watch this video.
@foghelmut5 жыл бұрын
You can put the Chevy tailgate at a 45 by looping the cables over the lock posts or whatever they're called.
@ALMX5DP5 жыл бұрын
foghelmut is that a factory recommended procedure? Does Chevy rate the tailgate to hold a certain weight?
@foghelmut5 жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP I'm not aware of this being an official recommendation, but it's something I've seen people do.
@ALMX5DP5 жыл бұрын
@@foghelmut Yeah I know the old Colorado had two posts for which to connect the tailgate cables, however this loop thing seems potentially problematic. If you have a lot of weight those cables might be okay looped over, but a big bounce could cause them to slack and drop off making for a very messy cleanup. Not sure why Jeep is advertising it like that unless it really has a secure foot.
@allendavid41395 жыл бұрын
They’re going too add a 3.0 eco diesel to the gladiator next year and I think if you do a lot of pavement driving the Colorado is difficult too beat and thanks for taking the key ring off the Colorado during the off road segment
@rudaripu5 жыл бұрын
Is it me or the doors of the gladiator were wobbling in the woops?
@absolutetuber3 жыл бұрын
shopping for a midsized pickup and its come down to a chevy zr2 and a jeep gladiator, this video was awesome!
@Immolate625 жыл бұрын
Setting aside the ZR2's visibility and payload height issues, it would have been the near perfect off-road truck except for its fatal flaw of the two plows attached to the rear axle. What was Chevy thinking? The IFS makes it a better all-around vehicle, but limits it off-road as well. The Jeep looks like it has it all except the break-over and the inescapable maneuverability hit it takes from overall length. Departure angle isn't great either, but the truck isn't vulnerable so much on the rear. I think I'll give it a serious look in a couple of years after they shake it down. I love my T4R, but I miss having a truck bed after a year.
@casTingcall075 жыл бұрын
I relocated those plows on mine!
@Immolate625 жыл бұрын
@@casTingcall07 didn't know you could do that, but good on you. Hopefully Chevy changes their mind on that.
@ScottaHemi4405 жыл бұрын
it's to bad GM doesn't have an SUV based on this truck. they could call it the Trailblazer or something!
@blankerism41895 жыл бұрын
amen
@ajflament80125 жыл бұрын
That's where GM f***ed up the new blazer should be the trailblazer and they could have made a true blazer off the Colorado after seeing how well the bronco will do( assuming itll be a hit on the market)
@dappergaming8585 жыл бұрын
@@ajflament8012 The new "Blazer" is a city cruiser, not the rugged off-roader like it was originally. It makes me sick to my stomach looking at the new one sometimes.
@leesantos97114 жыл бұрын
Agree !
@moreuggaduggas5 жыл бұрын
I want that Jeep Gladiator, both front and rear locking diffs, high and low trans range with a 4:1 ratio for much better torque when climbing steep terrain. Ability to be a fully convertible truck and can take the doors off, along with a water resistant touch screen which is a plus. Highest tow rating on the Sport variant of the truck with a good sized 3.6L V6. A manual transmission which is sadly rare nowadays unless you get a muscle car with a manual, but I like the option to have one because. Next year they are releasing the gladiator with a diesel engine which is my selling point for the power they produce and the fuel milage they provide. Thanks Jeep for another great vehicle to add to the competition and make the others have to come up with good ideas again.
@13christbane5 жыл бұрын
the Jeep guy trying to say the Multi's are not tuned for off road is just pure nonsense. ZR2 guy was more honest with his review. and the wind noise on Jeeps is annoying from factory let alone a couple years down the road. I guess just take the doors and roof off so it has a reason to have noise.
@bmt21255 жыл бұрын
I don't even want either of these vehicles but damn was this a well-made video. Edmunds, keep up the good work
@theplayernkc5 жыл бұрын
So you're coming out of the closet with this post?
@Tangsters5 жыл бұрын
This by far is the best review. Unbiased and very informative. Thank you guys!
@bsfunk444 жыл бұрын
These guys suck balls
@scottpomygalski60785 жыл бұрын
Great Video, very nice tests please do more vehicle tests in this environment. One thing that concerning me deeply about the Jeep is that the rear passengers head area DOES NOT seem to be protected that well from things that might become loose in the bed and come forward into the passenger compartment. I can almost see the bike, or cooler come forward when the top is down and whacko goes right into the backrest of the rear passenger. Surprised no body has brought this up.
@jamespeters39074 жыл бұрын
Just seems like they built for different style off roading. The Zr2 seems more for faster higher speed trails. Such as the ford raptor. The Gladiator seems more for over-landing and crawling. The solid axle on the gladiator make a better platform for modifications. The zr2 can probably be modified but less extensive and more expensive.
@Cliffhanger_MFC5 жыл бұрын
What is that phone mount in the Rubicon?
@lokirip23725 жыл бұрын
These are both winners. The 2 best off-road capable trucks from the factory, and they're both U.S. brands. The jeep is way more fun though.
@benfromsk77405 жыл бұрын
So a Raptor or a Tacoma TRd pro aren’t as good? Gotcha.
@lokirip23725 жыл бұрын
@@benfromsk7740 correct
@poppa_da_corn5 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Thanks for this comparison.
@535Medic5 жыл бұрын
After trading a 15 JKU for a diesel ZR2, I'm not going back to jeep. That JKU spent as much time in the repair shop as it did in my driveway. That was my 5th and LAST jeep. Ever since jeep got rid of the straight 6, jeep reliability has sucked.
@92powerdiesel615 жыл бұрын
agreed, I kinda wish GM or ford bought the brand. Maybe then more innovation would be brought and current jeep wouldn't suck.
@HeresTheGenZFlorentineFolks.5 жыл бұрын
The power top for the gladiator would be awesome!
@robbamford41345 жыл бұрын
Bit disappointed that it was not mentioned that the zr2 has a diesel model available now; Jeep is promising, but not really committing to a date. I’m also not sure if comparing the rubicon with 33s to the zr2 with 30.6 tire size is a completely fair equivalency test without mentioning that.
@joediver76695 жыл бұрын
I was thinking thr same thing. I have the 2016 Colorado Z71 Trail Boss diesel rated 7700lbs towing. It's the reason why I got it.
@flybyguy14505 жыл бұрын
You're the first person I've ever heard say the dssv shocks weren't that good.
@jjhernandez52445 жыл бұрын
Nice video, keep the good work.
@1smokan3 жыл бұрын
ZR2 bed height makes for a great overland vehicle with a topper.
@txkuntryboy5 жыл бұрын
The guy in the chevy trying to speak with all the vibration the ride is giving him is hilarious.
@loganholmberg22955 жыл бұрын
I just noticed it looks like it has molly on the back of the front seats so you can attach bags and gear to it. That's frickin cool.
@speterbilt5 жыл бұрын
ZR2 with diesel! 🤘😁
@leadsinger135 жыл бұрын
The fact that the ZR2 has a diesel option makes it leagues bettr than any jeep. We're finally catching up with the rest of the world.
@JoeIsOut2lunch5 жыл бұрын
It took everything to not click away when I heard that they weren’t using the diesel as comparison. I mean come on! If you’re spending that kind of money and buying THE Off-roading package, don’t tell me you wouldn’t get the diesel? If you compare two top of the line trucks. Then truly option them out as fully as possible. There are so many unanswered questions otherwise. Does the extra torque make up for the lack of 4:1 lo-range? How is acceleration compared? Towing is inferior with the Chevy/GM? How about when optioned our with diesel? Fuel economy? What’s the difference in price when FULLY optioned out? Is the Jeep still cheaper? Etc. Etc. With that said, the video still had value. I have a modded 1st gen gas guzzling Tundra with pop-up camper and big tires and locking diff. The Jeep truck was the first thing I would consider as an out the door replacement. Anything else and I’m putting some extra money into it as soon as I buy it and that is a hard one to get the wife to approve, ya know?
@petek65225 жыл бұрын
90% of the zr2 owners won't be doing any worse terrain then this test track ... good review for the new zr2
@rmccarty335 жыл бұрын
Huge fan of the ZR2, but I love my JKU something about being able to rock crawl with the roof off.
@polebarnexperts5 жыл бұрын
ZR2 in this configuration I guess the Gladiator in this configuration the ZR2 destroys the Gladiator hands-down in rock crawling! It's not even close like what are you thinking! I guess you could have your opinion but you're wrong
@Shakshuka695 жыл бұрын
Dang, I was hoping for Largos Cago. Cool video though, thanks for making it.
@Leebs5 жыл бұрын
These are 2 of the most unlikely guys I'd think would do this sort of thing
@SuperSonic_8685 жыл бұрын
It's just two nerds with a script driving 10 mph. Big deal. One said, "the bed is too deep!" Yeah buddy stick to driving that Prius.
@pontiacGXPfan4 жыл бұрын
They're like big remote controlled RC cars....so much fun
@Sir.VicsMasher5 жыл бұрын
Member when you could get an all aluminum 5.3L V8 in the Colorado/ Canyon...
@jakewarren94655 жыл бұрын
I member
@mbsnyderc5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen one.
@kmeekins41685 жыл бұрын
Pepperidge farm remembers.
@bobquattrini17875 жыл бұрын
GM is Junk
@theplayernkc5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen one.
@mikemissouri51525 жыл бұрын
That break over angle on the Jeep is worse then I thought. The fan boy acted like it wasn’t a big deal but it will be. I’ll take the ZR2 and save 15k to boot.
@derikbishop31445 жыл бұрын
Or save ~12k and get the ZR2 with a diesel.
@T4nkcommander5 жыл бұрын
Great review. As expected, the ZR2 did much better, but I will say that Jeep wasn't as bad as I thought it might be. Still don't see a reason to buy a midsize truck unless space in an issue, and even then, I would never buy another Jeep. Our 2016 JKUR was only good offroad, and even then not much better at crawling than my Raptor is.